Is The Tamron 17-28 and Sony A7III good for Astrophotography?

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The Tamron 17-28mm f2.8 and the Sony A7III is an excellent combination for Astrophotography and low light video work. The Tamron 17-28 is sharp and has great contrast, colors and resolution for shooting stars and the Milky Way at night and when it's paired with the A7III you get fantastic low light photos of stars. In this video I show you how to shoot astrophotography with the Tamron 17-28 and the Sony A7iii as your main setup.
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@membler 4 года назад

I've been checking out the PhotoPills app and they have a calculator for the length of shutter speed based on your actual camera and sensor size. For the A73 at 17mm and f2.8 it suggests a maximum shutter speed of 7.71 seconds. It's under "spot stars". I've always used the 500 rule buy I'm going to experiment with the suggested slower speeds.

@JakeSloan 4 года назад

Oh interesting!! I use the photo pills app all the time for planning shoots but never saw that. Thanks for the tip! I def noticed a tiny bit of bluring above 20 seconds. So most of mine where there or below. Cheers!

@NikolajFHalberg 4 года назад

The NPF rule with the accurate setting is a bit unrealistic to use as the shutterspeed is way to low so you would need to crank the ISO up way too high which will affect dynamic range. It would require shooting multiple shots & use stacking to get as good results as with the "normal" 500 rule & single exposures. It's also worth mentioning that the 500 rule uses the FF equivalent focal length so for Jake's a6600 with for example a Sigma 16mm f/1.4 lens it would be 500/(16mm * 1.5) = 20,8 seconds or 15 seconds for minimal streaking stars. It is also beneficial to put 2 functions on custom buttons (for Sony mirrorless). 1) Focus magnifier so you can get a 11,7x magnification for focus 2) Bright Monitoring to make it easier to compose your shots. I shot this yesterday using an a6400 with the Sigma 16mm f/1.4 15" - f/1.4 - ISO 2500 - 6 image panorama www.flickr.com/photos/nhalberg/49707822547/in/dateposted-public/

@JakeSloan 4 года назад

Great image! and yeah with the 6600 I do the calculation for what the full frame equivalent would be. I was surprised how much more difficult it was to get the sigma in focus. I use the focus magnifier as well and it helps a lot. I suppose my issues could have been the cold with the sigma as well. Cheers and again love the image!

@NikolajFHalberg 4 года назад

@@JakeSloan The Sigma 16mm f/1.4 is VERY fiddly to focus. It's back & forth until you hit that perfect fraction of an inch where you have critical focus & if you bump the tripod or move the tripod you can start all over again ;) But it is VERY sharp even wide open.

@JakeSloan 4 года назад

That’s true! It’s extremely sharp but the manual focus is extremely difficult to work with in the dark lol. Next time I’ll have to go earlier set it up and focus it while there is still light and then wait lol. Cheers!

@adrianalfordphotography 4 года назад

Great review Jake, really enjoyed watching. Thanks for sharing mate 👍🙏

@JakeSloan 4 года назад

Thank you Adrian! It was fun to shoot and make but I’m ready for warmer weather!!!

@chipcurry 4 года назад

Great job, thanks for getting out there and making it happen. I have that lens and have been having a lot of fun with it. Astro will be the next step as soon as they loosen up the quarantine.

@JakeSloan 4 года назад

Excellent it does a great job on astro. Have fun!

@bvaldes8791 4 года назад

You guys are some brave souls venturing out in those conditions WOW. Photos and Time laps were awesome. Thanks for great tips.

@JakeSloan 4 года назад

Absolutely and it was WORTH IT lol. I’m going to try and venture out one or two more times before we loose the darkness for the summer. Thanks!!

@life_asiseeit 4 года назад

Hey Jake! Great video with some fantastic tips! I have the A7iii and Tamron 17-28 lens and have thought about trying some astrophotography. This video is exactly what I needed to get started. Love the channel! Looking forward to whatever you have planned next! Hope you are keeping well!

@JakeSloan 4 года назад

Thank you so much! have fun shooting some astro its a great combination!!

@JM-it7db 4 года назад

Thanks for covering this specific topic with this lens. Interesting, useful review.

@JakeSloan 4 года назад

You’re welcome! It was fun but cold to make. Totally worth it in the end though

@SCAerialsSteveCarpenter 4 года назад

Howdy Jake, this was an excellent review and test of the Tamron 17-28 lens. What interested, even more, were all your tips and tricks for shooting astrophotography; all were extremely helpful. Thank you, you had some outstanding images in the video, I'll be checking out some of your RAW files too. Again, my thanks and Take Care!

@JakeSloan 4 года назад

thanks so much Steve! I hope you get the chance to do some astro photography! its actually a lot of fun. Cheers !!

@biscuitsalive 4 года назад

Thank. Good answers. What I was after. Ordered the lens. Should arrive this afternoon.

@JakeSloan 4 года назад

Fantastic enjoy!!

@andyarts8382 4 года назад

What a fantastic video. So much great info. Thanks so much for doing it.

@JakeSloan 4 года назад

Thank you very much and you’re welcome!!

@venezuela.paulog 2 года назад

That manual focus tip was so useful man!!! More power to your channel!!!

@JakeSloan 2 года назад

Glad to hear it

@californiasounddesign3921 4 года назад

great information here! thank you for the focus to infinity tip! i'll have to remember this next time i go out!

@JakeSloan 4 года назад

You're welcome! have fun shooting with it!!

@mengshun 2 года назад

Infinity setting @ 9:40 - dude, you are the man! TY TY for that tip. It's a duh moment but better late than never. Love this lens.

@JakeSloan 2 года назад

Glad to hear it helped!!

@petedownham9571 3 года назад

Thank you very much Jake, excellent review

@JakeSloan 3 года назад

You’re welcome!

@jpspizzo 4 года назад

Amazing job once again!! Thank You

@JakeSloan 4 года назад

Thank you!!

@dpfphdedpz 3 года назад

Little trick for focussing: search the brightest star in your viewfinder and try focussing on it. Right when you get it, the outline of the star will shift from green to reddish (or vice versa if you approacht from the other end). And for stopping down: It really doesn't pay off to get "more sharpness" in the sky because the stars are far too small to be resolved (read: the stars we see are just light bleeding over from the central pixel, only a handful of stars have been pictured with a "high" resolution by the most powerful telescopes we've got) so the less noise we can get, the better the picture will be. Safe to say that a big apperture is always better. If your foreground is out of focus, use focus stacking.

@JakeSloan 3 года назад

I agree and great tips! The only time I recommend stopping down a bit is with some lenses that have very poor performance wide open, fortunately thats pretty rare now! Cheers

@PaulFeinberg 4 года назад

Super cool! I have finally been able to watch this video. Ironically I have less time to watch and make videos now because I have been spending a lot of time with the family and I watch my 2 year old with everyone at home. Great video as always dude! It’s a great lens for night photography. Even though it’s not a 1.4 or 1.8 still surprises me. Also helps that Sony’s low light is amazing.

@JakeSloan 4 года назад

what's amazing is the low light performance of the A7iii is better than the A7Riii or A7rIV! but yeah they have great low light another thing that is AMAZING is the Tamron beats out the new Sony 20mm for sharpness in the corners!!! Tamron is killing it with these lenses. Cheers bro and family time is awesome get it while you can before we all have to go back to work lol.

@PaulFeinberg 4 года назад

Jake Sloan family time is great no doubts!

@NamebranDDD 3 года назад

Awesome video. A lot of the tips regarding Astro were things I knew already, but I didn’t know about the infinity focus tip you shared for this lens. The screen doesn’t work on my Sony, and my tripod is a mini size (Gorillapod) which can make it tricky to find good focus through my EVF when shooting Astro. The infinity focus tip for this lens made the entire video well worth it. Bravo! You’ve just emboldened me to go for one last try at Milky Way pics this year once the new moon comes around.

@JakeSloan 3 года назад

Fantastic! I'm so glad to hear it!! have fun and good luck. I'm getting ready to shoot lots of astro and aurora this winter up here and really can't wait to see what I get!

@thb5505 8 месяцев назад

Great video, thanks!

@JakeSloan 8 месяцев назад

Glad you liked it!

@winifredhelton-harmon3299 2 года назад

Thanks for all the helpful tips.

@JakeSloan 2 года назад

You’re welcome

@mtruman42 3 года назад

This was absolutely awesome! A few months ago I bought a used a7ii to decide if I really wanted to go mirrorless (I know, why not years ago). I immediately fell in love with it and decided to finally try astrophotography, which I’d been thinking about forever. My first try was 2 months ago in absolutely perfect conditions with the Sony 28-70 kit lens. I made pretty much every noob mistake, but using the Topaz Labs apps I was able to salvage something that. The second month was a complete bust (all out of focus), and finally last week I got another chance, with my newly purchased Tamron 17-28 and I figured out the focus through trial and error and pretty much nailed it. Your advice in this video was fantastic and I’m getting read to pull the trigger on an a7riii body, so should be lots of additional capability, including bright monitoring. Thanks for sharing all of your secrets! Your work is amazing!!

@JakeSloan 3 года назад

Thank you and glad to hear you are getting it nailed down!!

@treforwilliams8270 Год назад

Great video for the exact camera and lens combination I want to use for Astro 😊

@JakeSloan Год назад

Awesome!

@asaphoenix 2 года назад

This video came handy because I just got my Sony a3iii and Tamron 17-28mm. Thank you!

@JakeSloan 2 года назад

Awesome

@exlimsss 3 года назад

Great video!!

@JakeSloan 3 года назад

Thank you

@soumodipsaha8167 2 года назад

Great review. Thank you! Worth a bell icon click. Keep it up.

@JakeSloan 2 года назад

Much appreciated!

@starlight9335 3 года назад

Awesome video ...i'm finally convinced to buy one

@JakeSloan 3 года назад

its a fantastic lens!

@starlight9335 3 года назад

@@JakeSloan Getting mine today :) Thank you for this fantastic video. Nearly bought a Sony G before seeing this video

@Califor12 3 года назад

Awesome astrophotography tutorial, best on a saw on the internet

@JakeSloan 3 года назад

Thank you very much!

@madrobotgames2677 4 года назад

Thank you for this. I used your affiliate link to buy from Amazon. Hope you get the credit.

@JakeSloan 4 года назад

Thank you so much!

@vikrantvsoni 4 года назад

Very informative

@JakeSloan 4 года назад

Thanks I hope it helped you

@troutboynz 3 года назад

I gave you a thumbs up just because you didn't say "Hey what's up guys"!! 10/10

@JakeSloan 3 года назад

ROFL thanks!

@KardosoMedia 4 года назад

Incredible Jake! Haven't dabbled with astrophotography much but will definitely give a go sometime. Have you seen the SpaceX convoy of satellites in the sky the last couple nights? Pretty interesting to see...looks like a trail of ufos or something..

@JakeSloan 4 года назад

I haven't but I would love to. in both my time-lapses you can see satellites tracking across the sky (airplanes too of course). I am really hoping to get out durning one more Aurora display before we lose our darkness and capture it with a time-lapse and some photos! of course that's all dependent on whether we will be able to leave the house any time soon lol. Cheers Kardoso!!

@katrinatouckevideoproductions Год назад

Hi Jake! I love your channel! I film with Sony A7sIII at the end of your video 10:45 is exactly what I want to learn. Do you use a slide for the time-lapse? I LOVE timelapse but not finding much info on shooting without sticking stills together. Have you tried Q & S mode to do? Do you have a video on specifically how to film a video on Astro? Thanks so much! Looking to film in a couple weeks with the ice festival in Ouray CO Kat

@katrinatouckevideoproductions Год назад

S & Q ;-)

@JakeSloan Год назад

that was a slider and I don't use S&Q mode for Timelapse's because I can't get the exact settings I want for night stuff, it does work in a pinch for day stuff

@therealherphero 4 года назад

Any review between this and the 16-35 f4? For astrophotography and wide view shots of the canopy etc

@JakeSloan 4 года назад

Unfortunately I wasn’t able to get a 16-35 f4 but having the extra stops in the aperture really helps with stars.

@janzielinski9430 4 года назад

Nice video. I appreciate a test of a lens I already have but didn't test for stars yet. Isn't some environmental criteria affecting the infinity focus point, like temperature? As far as I understand, materials in the lens react on cold or warm situations, stretches or shortens the lens somehow. So, manufactures built in that "movable" infinity point, because it depends on under what circumstances you are shooting. It may be like you said in the cold, but shooting stars in a tropical situation may be different. Everyone should try it for themselves.

@JakeSloan 4 года назад

I’m sure it would make a slight difference on focus but even shooting during the day in warm temps I’ve found it to be pretty much right on! Yes everyone should test for themselves and know their equipment well. Cheers!

@mmmyeahh 3 года назад

Hi nice video, which camera and lens are you using to video yourself talking??

@JakeSloan 3 года назад

I'm using the a7III and tamron 17-28 for that as well.

@stefaniep.9374 4 года назад

Wow, thank you very much for your tips 👏 I also like your time-lapse with the Sigma lense. It's amazing 😍 Do you want to tell me the settings and the workflow you used to create this time-lapse?

@JakeSloan 4 года назад

You're welcome! I plan on doing a video about how to time-lapse well but I believe this one was 15sec exposures take 16 seconds apart. I brought all the images into light room and edited them there then exported them and pulled them into final cut. In Final cut I turned them into a new combined clip and adjusted the timing to match one photo was equal to one frame if that makes sense lol. Cheers!

@stefaniep.9374 4 года назад

@@JakeSloan thank you very much for your answer and your tips 😊 can't wait to see that video. keep it up! 👍

@kolapyellow7631 3 года назад

The distortions make it look artsy.

@JakeSloan 3 года назад

thanks

@onthemove301 4 года назад

Surprised, because I have used my A7r3 for astro, by the amount of chrominance noise on white snow even at iso 3200. I haven't shot snow at night, so that may be the explanation. But have you used specialist noise reduction software like Topaz? I find that really good for high iso bird shots, some of which have white feathers.

@JakeSloan 4 года назад

I have not. I applied a slight bit of noise reduction in Lightroom when I process these. The A7III does have slightly better low light performance than the A7RIII but its not huge maybe a half stop better. I need to check out topaz. I've heard great things about its ability to reduce noise! Did you download the raw files?

@dyong888 4 года назад

Hey Jake. I use the A7r4. Do you recommending turning off the IBIS while on tripod and doing long exposures?

@JakeSloan 4 года назад

If you have a very stable tripod then yes. If you are shooting in gusty wind that will slightly move the camera then no. Def turn off low light noise reduction so you can do the noise reduction in post though

@roadshoulderphotography683 3 года назад

at 9:26 of the video, you show the screen focusing to infinity. Is this visual whatever meters to infinity being produce by the lens in manual mode or is there a setting in the sony to get the bar at the bottom of the screen to show infinity. I ask this because I'm getting into Astro but havent got my 17-28 2.8 Tamron yet. I cant replicate your screen on my sony now with any lens I have. So is this something that this Tamron lens does because Tamron built it in or am I missing a setting in the Sony A7R III. I hope I'm explaining myself correctly..... btw I just subscribe because I love your explainations and I purchased a 28-200mm and 17-28mm Tamron lenses.. Thanks

@JakeSloan 2 года назад

That is something sony will do in photo mode when in manual focus automatically with the Tamron lens. I am not sure if it works with other lenses

@dvdpz89 4 года назад

What backpack do you use?

@JakeSloan 4 года назад

I use the lowepro ProTactic 450 AW. You can see what I usually take with me here: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-OzusNK1w54k.html It’s a great backpack. I’ve been using it nearly every day for almost 3 years now!

@TomaszTwojFotograf 2 года назад

Great Video! Q: Tamron have the FOCUS BY WIRE - will it work with my gimbal DJI RS 2 so I can controle the focus from gimbal?

@JakeSloan 2 года назад

It does have focus by wire but I haven’t been able to get the focus control on the gimbal to work… some lenses it works ok with but even when it works it’s not necessarily a good/smooth control.

@TomaszTwojFotograf 2 года назад

@@JakeSloan ok, i like to use it for programable timelapse with zoom, so I dont need to work it in postproduction.

@zakariasarianna1695 3 года назад

Tamron 17-28mm vs sony 20mm 1.8 for landscape and astro?

@JakeSloan 3 года назад

The prime will be better for Astro since it has quit a lot more light gathering capability with its 1.8 vs 2.8 Aperture and primes are almost always sharper overall.

@scampifingers 3 года назад

Great video Jake! Would love to see a comparison between the tamron 17-28mm and Sony 20mm 1.8 for Astro as they are very close in price. Also do you use the BRIGHT mode on the A7 Cameras to help compose astrophotography shots. Cheers

@JakeSloan 3 года назад

hmmm I will see if I can get hold of a 20mm

@matthoffman6962 4 года назад

Do you find this lens wide enough? Or would you rather have a 14-24 or 12-24? Thanks

@JakeSloan 4 года назад

So occasionally I do find I want wider angles when doing real estate work in small rooms or once in a while when I am in an ice cave but other than that I've been extremely happy with the 17-28

@MikeCriss 4 года назад

Great shots, I froze my fingers that night although not as windy....still cold at Gold Mint trail. I ended up sending the Sony 20mm back. Interested in this lens although I will probably get the Sony 16-35mm

@JakeSloan 4 года назад

lol my hands were so frozen by the time we were done I couldn't feel the buttons anymore. Interesting on the 20mm did you have the 24mm or have you tried it? I've heard its a fantastic astro lens but I have yet to try it. I hope to before we get too much light. I still want to get the aurora this season.

@MikeCriss 4 года назад

@@JakeSloan I don't have the 24mm. I have the Rokinon 14mm and Tokina 16-28 for my Canon 6D. Searching for an Astro lens for my Sony. I don't think a 24mm is wide enough for those big Aurora storms we get but if it is sharp to the edges I will get it.

@JakeSloan 4 года назад

I agree it’s barely wide enough but from what I’ve seen the sharpness edge to edge and low light performance is among the best for Sony at the moment.

@oliverryanr2011 3 года назад

Any updates on using the tamron 17-28 in comparison to the sony 20mm? I am tired between the 2 due to that price range. Thanks in advance!

@EDUcopilot 4 года назад

A quick one mile. 😂 Great video!

@JakeSloan 4 года назад

Just a quick mile in total darkness and frigid temps on a snow covered path 😂😂😂. It’s what I do...

@EDUcopilot 4 года назад

@@JakeSloan You lasted a lot longer than I would have. 🥶

@NickL0VIN 4 года назад

Hi Jake. I am debating between the Samyang 18mm f/2.8 vs the Tamron 17-28mm. Any suggestions? My uses are for general Travel and Astro shooting (my only other lens is the Tamron 28-75mm). The Samyang is half the size and half the price so it is intriguing. thank you for your videos.

@JakeSloan 4 года назад

So the Samyang is great if you don't plan to be out in bad weather (rain, mist, dusty conditions etc) because it has no weather sealing and you know you won't need to adjust the zoom range at all. The biggest downside for me is the lack of weather sealing but other than that its a great wide angle light weight low light video and photo lens! I hope that helps you decide and let me know what you do or if you have more questions! Cheers

@NickL0VIN 4 года назад

@@JakeSloan Well, that makes the decision easy. All my travel shoots are either in the mountains, beaches, or landscape areas. Lol, thanks!

@JakeSloan 4 года назад

You’re welcome! That usually makes my decisions for me as well lol. Cheers!!

@NickL0VIN 4 года назад

@@JakeSloan Hi Jake, I am back lol! So now I am torn between the Tamron 17-28mm vs the Sony 20mm f/1.8. The reason for wanting the f/1.8 is not only do I shoot astro, but I like shooting day time wide portraits, however, AT A DISTANCE. Would shooting f/2.8 vs f/1.8 actually make a difference in subject separation if my subject was say, 20 feet away? I love to shoot "little person in a big landscape photos" Thank you, Jake.

@MonicaHolly143 3 года назад

@@NickL0VIN go for 20 if u think it is wide enough It will also last a longer time than tamron and u can easily sell it

@xsoft7 4 года назад

the link to raw files is broken

@JakeSloan 4 года назад

I fixed it!!! thanks for letting me know!!

@zan0zzza 3 года назад

Can I ask you? How long take this time lapse at 10:00 ?! How many shots and how many seconds for each shot? Thanks

@JakeSloan 3 года назад

If I remember correctly it was 10sec exposures 12 seconds apart and there were 240 total

@zan0zzza 3 года назад

@@JakeSloan Do I understand correctly, to make a similar astro time-lapse as in this form on the 10th minute, you need to spend about an hour?

@ddxfs 4 года назад

"a little bit of vignetting at 17mm". lol I just tried mine for astro and the vignetting is pretty massive on this lens. over 2 stops in corners so it is a lot to correct in post without introducing noise in the corners which can be a problem at night. I still like it. I was trying to see how bad the CA is in the corners or if it was just my copy. at 17mm in the corners at 2.8 the stars dont look great and like small lines. almost looks like they are trailing but it's not since center stars are dots. some bright stuff can look winged too

@jeffrockr 4 года назад

Have you tried applying the profile correction? The distortion is probably causing the lines in corner so once correcting them im curious on how it looks.

@JakeSloan 4 года назад

interesting. I didn't think there would be that much variance between copies.

@paganmin1214 3 года назад

How about tamron 24mm f2.8 Jake? Does it good for astrograpghy milkyway?

@JakeSloan 3 года назад

Unfortunately I haven't been able to test that lens yet

@MarkH163 4 года назад

Interesting about setting your white balance for shooting at night, gain greater flexibility in post?

@JakeSloan 4 года назад

Raw gives greater flexibility in post but locking the white balance gives you consistency to edit with in post. I’ve also shot with higher and lower WB settings but I’ve always found that editing in post I usually end up around 5500 unless I am specifically trying for a certain look. Cheers!!

@MarkH163 4 года назад

@@JakeSloan Sounds good, Thanks Jake!

@8080408729a 3 года назад

Shall i consider a7r3 for astrophotography..?

@JakeSloan 3 года назад

The a7riii has more trouble in low light than the a7iii does but it can work. The a7iii is really the sweet spot of sensor resolution and low light performance. If you really want to do Astro with it then look into getting the camera modded to remove the AA filter etc which will help its low light performance a lot.

@8080408729a 3 года назад

@@JakeSloan thanks a lot sir😊

@SpaceFactsWax 3 года назад

Thank you for sharing. I got the chance to view a rocket launch in 2018. Incredible experience. I uploaded a pretty cool montage of the trip to my channel.

@JakeSloan 3 года назад

That is awesome!