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Is the Universe Fine-Tuned for Life and Mind? | Episode 302 | Closer To Truth 

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If the universe had been ever so slightly different, human beings wouldn't, couldn't, exist. All explanations of this exquisite fine-tuning, obvious and not-so-obvious, have problems. Featuring interviews with Martin Rees, Leonard Susskind, Alexander Vilenkin, Russell Stannard, Stephen Wolfram, and Roger Penrose.
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@stoictraveler1
@stoictraveler1 Год назад
I could listen to Roger all day long.
@musthaveblues
@musthaveblues Год назад
This series is just mind blowing. This episode is my favorite yet.
@RickB500
@RickB500 3 года назад
5th possibility. Fine tuning implies the idea, that something is tuned. 2 possiblities: 1st someone or something tuned it, 2nd, its tuning itself, like self organisation of life. Not that universe is a living creature, but its structure may be similar. There must be some feedback loops in the early universe, that were stable, and earlier universes, that where not. So I need no multiple universes at the same time, but in endless times before.
@flickedbic
@flickedbic 3 года назад
WOW! Great episode, thank you.
@datsexychris07
@datsexychris07 3 года назад
All I know is that he better not stop making these sort of videos. Interesting isn’t the word love getting the knowledge from different point of views .. I’m a happy subscriber from ALABAMA
@francesco5581
@francesco5581 3 года назад
This video should be shown in every school
@gowdsake7103
@gowdsake7103 3 года назад
Why ? to make education a joke ? Ohh your a creationist right ?
@francesco5581
@francesco5581 3 года назад
@@gowdsake7103 no, because it shows how unique is what we have the privilege to live , independently of the cause
@ferdinandkraft857
@ferdinandkraft857 3 года назад
Hey, teacher, leave the kids alone!
@francesco5581
@francesco5581 3 года назад
@@ferdinandkraft857 "the perfect tuning" is something 99% of people arent aware of. And yet 99% of scientists agree on that. Also it have both a materialist and a spiritual answer . To every school ...now !!
@ferdinandkraft857
@ferdinandkraft857 3 года назад
@@francesco5581 Kids should be encouraged to look for answers by themselves.
@peterstanbury3833
@peterstanbury3833 Год назад
The problem with resorting to the multiverse to explain life is that it assumes life is THE most complex thing that could arise out of the gazillions of variants. However, with so many variants ( last I heard it was 10^500 ) you get the bizarre situation where there'd almost certainly be numerous phenomenon even more amazing and inexplicable than life to have to explain away. The problem doesn't go away...it actually gets compounded by the multiverse.
@stevemartin6267
@stevemartin6267 8 месяцев назад
I am learning so much. Thank you for these thought provoking interviews.
@MegaDonaldification
@MegaDonaldification Год назад
I love this gentleman's description of being.
@TupacMakaveli1996
@TupacMakaveli1996 3 года назад
Loving these
@tomwirt319
@tomwirt319 Месяц назад
Thanks!
@drmindriot
@drmindriot 3 года назад
Wow, amazing content, thank you.
@kw6409
@kw6409 3 года назад
Amazing episode
@garybalatennis
@garybalatennis 3 года назад
From mathematician to philosopher to cosmologist to poet, we all seem to agree that this universe exhibits an unimaginably precise tuning of constants and parameters. Fred Hoyle once commented that it all “looks like a fix.” It’s either an intentional fix (Supreme source) or random fix (multiverse). However such a random fix or multiverse would need a multiverse-generator, mechanism or theory. Thus, we are led back to an Ultimate source. The issue then is: is this ultimate source a life, a mind, a thing, a force or a law or something else beyond our comprehension?
@jennifer97363
@jennifer97363 3 года назад
I am amused by the audacious claims of the religious, that they comprehend the answer to that most magnificent of questions. Our primitive cognition will never furnish us with the answer. Just enjoy the circus ride, it’s over before you know it.
@garybalatennis
@garybalatennis 3 года назад
@@jennifer97363 Sorry to disappoint. But I’m not a religious person. (If that is what someone is suggesting.) Just using common “horse sense”. And by the way, anyone’s comments on a RU-vid video are only that: comments, suggestions, thoughts, postulations, theories. (Forgive humans for trying, but it’s what intellectually curious and probing creatures do.) No one “knows” all or the ultimate answers, nor should (or rarely) does anyone reasonable insist they “know” such. So just chill, take it all in stride, think, play, have fun and ice up a cold one (or hot one depending on your taste). And “Row your boat . . . Life is but a Dream.”
@ahmedzaidazam
@ahmedzaidazam 3 года назад
I like that he saved Penrose as the last one
@psyseraphim
@psyseraphim 3 года назад
Yeah because it basically destroys everything that came before it 😂.
@tedgrant2
@tedgrant2 3 года назад
"Lord, We are having trouble with pi. We think it should be more than 3 but less than 4" "But Gabriel, I am the creator of this universe and I want pi to be a nice round number". "We tried 3 and 4 Lord, but with each of those values, the hydrogen atom is unstable". "Gabriel, you must be having a laugh. Nothing is impossible for me !" (Luke 1:37).
@bajajones5093
@bajajones5093 3 года назад
good show!
@kallianpublico7517
@kallianpublico7517 3 года назад
Is ignorance the absence of knowledge or the presence of knowledge. I contend ignorance is the presence of knowledge: that knowledge explicitly makes us ignorant of certain things. Knowledge is what ignorance uses to hide itself. It is hiding self- creation from the created. This conversation about fine-tuning is really about this intuition about self-creation. As created beings we play our role. If we were to "own" our souls we could adjust our role.
@ALavin-en1kr
@ALavin-en1kr 3 месяца назад
If it is all random without a mind behind it, it is nothing short of a miracle.
@ricksteves1973
@ricksteves1973 3 года назад
Kuhn is an exceptional human being; not that that is saying a lot, as on the whole, humanity is a blight on the cosmos.
@vjnt1star
@vjnt1star 3 года назад
why nobody asks seriously "could the universe have been better tuned for life?"
@inOZ8434
@inOZ8434 3 года назад
It's flawed from the beginning
@ayoubzahiri1918
@ayoubzahiri1918 2 года назад
but the process of 'evolution' is happening right now, it's the basis of every action and choice we make,in other words, the mission to sublimate life is in our hands as we are are product of the universe/god therefore we are in essence THAT!
@kevanhubbard9673
@kevanhubbard9673 3 года назад
I always find it interesting that rather esoteric stuff like this is interspersed with advertisements for planet destroying cars and football ⚽!
@esecallum
@esecallum 3 года назад
ACTUALLY EVOLVES TO FIT WITHIN THE CONFINES OF THE EXISTING PHYSICAL LAWS AND UNIVERSAL CONSTANTS.
@richardnelson4112
@richardnelson4112 2 года назад
The answer is yes and no. Life and mind as we know it, is a product of the universe for the way it is. If it was tuned differently, the result would be a product that is a consequence of that different tuning. What that means is that there could easily be an endless way for life and mind to exist. You have to look outside the box and not only in the box.
@jazzfish1437
@jazzfish1437 3 года назад
Universe was born like a seed from a tree in a forest, our universe is a species or type, other trees make other types.
@georgeherbert88999
@georgeherbert88999 3 года назад
how would you know?
@georgemiller151
@georgemiller151 3 года назад
The problem is that there are no other trees. Other universes don’t generate complexity.
@footspike55
@footspike55 3 года назад
Also there is zero evidence for other universes existing in the first place
@seanmccarthy1021
@seanmccarthy1021 3 года назад
@@footspike55 zero proof
@pausenponder7506
@pausenponder7506 3 года назад
@@georgeherbert88999 ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-DaydqnqJYvA.html
@jamesrey3221
@jamesrey3221 3 года назад
This one infinite universe is not big enough for them that they need multiple universes. We can't even fathom the mysteries our our universe, the origin of life and our own consciousness.
@ishikawa1338
@ishikawa1338 Год назад
Let alone the ocean or deepest forest and jungles
@richardrichards9180
@richardrichards9180 3 года назад
Problem here is trying to interpret a system as if we are an independent external entity objectively observing when we are an intrinsic part of it,created by it. Scientific thought says how can it be that everything is just right for us to come to exist out of randomness-the alternative,of course,is that the purpose of the universe itself is to create us,so how could it then be otherwise?
@ramaraksha01
@ramaraksha01 3 года назад
This is silly - it is like asking how my dad/mom looks exactly like me It is the reverse - we are here because the universe, this earth kept certain conditions - water, warmth, a stable earth etc We change when conditions change When food is scarce as in some islands, we get small animals - animals reduce their size so then they can have the food they need In dark caves where sunlight does not reach animals have lost their skin color and have lost their eyesight - both are not needed, so they are gone If the universe was different as they in a multi-universe, then WE would be different so as to suit the laws of that other universe
@tomwirt319
@tomwirt319 Месяц назад
Read James Lovelocks Gaia Theory about earth as a living organism. Written in 1970.
@neffetSnnamremmiZ
@neffetSnnamremmiZ 3 года назад
At least it's my structure, you can not take something out, the whole universe is neccesary, that I can be. Life is organizing and realizing itself even with external things like comet-impacts or orbit-shifting, what ever, is all about to organize itself! 🌱
@nachtraumom
@nachtraumom 3 года назад
Can someone explain what Penrose means with fine tuning with regards to the origin of the universe and second law of thermodynamics? I have never heard someone else talking about this.
@golden-63
@golden-63 3 года назад
*""Fine Tuning" does NOT means the universe is ideal for life. If one of the physical constants were even slightly different, there would be no galaxies, no stars, no planets, not even matter itself. Life would not be possible. Fine tuning is something of a mystery to scientists because the odds of the physical constants being what they are are so incomprehensibly small, that chance seems unlikely unless there are many universes.*
@Dion_Mustard
@Dion_Mustard 3 года назад
multi-verse theory is growing in strength.
@golden-63
@golden-63 3 года назад
@@Dion_Mustard Seems like a logical explanation.
@tomwirt319
@tomwirt319 Месяц назад
Someonr, i think susskind posit that there are dark holes all over the place and they connect like tunnels between parallel univ9erses.
@jamesrey3221
@jamesrey3221 3 года назад
There a lot of things we do not know and will never know, scientist and philosophers will continue to form hypothesis and speculation until the end of time. 1> rare earth/the universe, 2> life from non-life, 3> One specie (man) with consciousness (to build his science and civilization) out of the approximately 50 billion species on Earth, only humans evolved intelligence
@christianjimenez9372
@christianjimenez9372 3 года назад
Can you post an air date for your videos?
@mindfulskills
@mindfulskills 3 года назад
The fine-tuning argument isn't particularly compelling to me simply because we co-evolved with the universe. The universe and we "inter-are." That is why we are so intricately suited to each other. We can even make the argument (and many traditions such as Buddhism do) that we are the universe, and the universe is us. If the universe and its laws were different, we would be different too.
@LoraxChannel
@LoraxChannel 3 года назад
Lol what? We aren't the universe. No one argues that the universe evolved: it's a theory applied to biology.
@ishikawa1338
@ishikawa1338 Год назад
@@LoraxChannel yeah we are. Do u think I exist outside of the universe and earth isn’t part of it.. only in your ego and mind do you exist outside of it because you live in a box work ina. Box for flat boxes to buy things in boxes while u drive around in a box..
@cps_Zen_Run
@cps_Zen_Run 3 года назад
Yes, this is just like the mud puddle saying, “look how perfect this hole fits me. Perfectly designed by my Creator. “
@SpittinSquirell
@SpittinSquirell 3 года назад
Got em
@garythibault8032
@garythibault8032 3 года назад
Short and to the point...too bad they don't get it.
@golden-63
@golden-63 3 года назад
*That's not what fine tuning is. It means if the physical constants were even slightly different, not only would there be no life, there would be no galaxies, stars, planets, or even matter itself. Life would not even be possible.*
@golden-63
@golden-63 3 года назад
@@garythibault8032 *That's not what fine tuning is. It means if the physical constants were even slightly different, not only would there be no life, there would be no galaxies, stars, planets, or even matter itself. Life would not even be possible.*
@garythibault8032
@garythibault8032 3 года назад
@@golden-63 well said, the explanation is spot on. The mud puddle metaphor is just referring to the tendency of humans to assign what can't be readily understood to a "Creator".
@jeffo3455
@jeffo3455 3 года назад
How is the multiverse idea not a "god of the gaps" argument?
@SpittinSquirell
@SpittinSquirell 3 года назад
It's many scientists "creation" theory. I dont know why multiverse is pushed so hard. For people so obsessed with facts and testable theories this one baffles me. Also as far as we know we are the only life in the universe and the vast majority of the universe is a dead vacuum how is that fine tuned?
@cps_Zen_Run
@cps_Zen_Run 3 года назад
I believe it arose from string theory. But those in the field should answer. They don’t necessarily need to be parallel. Think of each universe as a small bubble in a huge cosmos.
@AkoSiFrance
@AkoSiFrance 3 года назад
The multiverse is not yet proven. So, basically we really dont know yet.
@ajhieb
@ajhieb 3 года назад
"God of the gaps" is a particular flavor of the argument from ignorance fallacy that is applied when the asserted "plug" for our gap in knowledge is "God did it." The multiverse hypothesis could be similarly fallacious if asserted as fact, however I'm not aware of any scientists making such claims.
@pausenponder7506
@pausenponder7506 3 года назад
ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-DaydqnqJYvA.html
@theliamofella
@theliamofella 3 года назад
The problem with many physicists reluctancy to consider a creator as the reason for this universe is that they seem to think about that as meaning a biblical kind of god or a god that cares about human beings, but there could be (in my way of thinking) a creator that is far beyond our understanding and could be completely benevolent towards us human beings and could even be a kind of technological creation or god could be many different things that we could be a part of or we could be irrelevant to
@josephshawa
@josephshawa 3 года назад
What able-bodied god would spend such talent and valuable TIME!! on such a simple thing as us?
@theliamofella
@theliamofella 3 года назад
@@josephshawa i don’t know but it might not be anything that makes sense to our human nature
@josephshawa
@josephshawa 3 года назад
@@theliamofella I would have to say this separation of intellect would be much beyond the difference between a little girl and her doll. Even little girls get tired of playing with their dolls
@ishikawa1338
@ishikawa1338 Год назад
@@josephshawa but earth is much more interesting of a show to watch when there are billions of me running around like wtf is going on.. it could just be entertainment but with a cause and purpose
@josephshawa
@josephshawa Год назад
@@theliamofella Oh. " I don't understand, so it must be right." Boo oo
@squatch545
@squatch545 3 года назад
The universe is fine tuned for my flatulence.
@tomwirt319
@tomwirt319 Месяц назад
No, beans are
@justicewillprevail1106
@justicewillprevail1106 3 года назад
He asks all the right questions.
@dondattaford5593
@dondattaford5593 Год назад
It's fine tuned for the observer your existence is what I observe and when I collapse it you don't exist
@tomwirt319
@tomwirt319 Месяц назад
Im working this info into my theory on there being a life force rhar arranges everthing into a life generating and supporting system.
@ahmedzaidazam
@ahmedzaidazam 3 года назад
We fish in the pond but there is some outside it
@Bill..N
@Bill..N 3 года назад
Susskind nailed it!
@satyamevjayate6360
@satyamevjayate6360 3 года назад
If it is so fine tuned, does that mean every thought, deed is also? Does that mean whatever we understand about nature was also fine tuned beforehand? Does fine tuning mean determinism?
@satyamevjayate6360
@satyamevjayate6360 3 года назад
@@psuedonym8344 I got your point. I or you or anyone else cannot understand it by ourselves, it should happen only as it has already been fine tuned, perhaps through one of us, but ultimately it's all universe alone causing it or to say it was fine tuned.
@satyamevjayate6360
@satyamevjayate6360 3 года назад
@@psuedonym8344 perfect. Whatever we call it,universe or nature, it includes everything, including us, every event etc.
@MNanme1z4xs
@MNanme1z4xs 3 года назад
Its fine tuned for empty space
@psyseraphim
@psyseraphim 3 года назад
Or blackholes
@ferdinandkraft857
@ferdinandkraft857 3 года назад
Empty space doesn't need quantum fields. Black holes don't need chemistry.
@psyseraphim
@psyseraphim 3 года назад
My cats breath smells like cat food.
@user-ei1ym1lq6h
@user-ei1ym1lq6h 3 года назад
Yes, life is a framework. It all starts from a Universe that doesn't really exist, gas spontaneously appears, big explosion in the center, creates a galaxy, stars burn, create solid matter, planets eventually form, cool and form an atmosphere with liquid ocean. Life is part of the end of that process.
@6Twisted
@6Twisted 10 месяцев назад
I've always believed in the multiverse and that we're only able to wonder about the fine tuning of our universe because it's habitable in the first place. I believe there's many many times more dead universes. But then again even if there is a multiverse why would they all have different constants in the first place.
@fjgiie
@fjgiie 5 месяцев назад
Why are the constants the same in different size universes? All the same all the time same same same. Why not different. There would need to be a god. Different gods? Yeah !
@Dion_Mustard
@Dion_Mustard 3 года назад
The key is consciousness...it's like the Q..what came first the chicken or the egg... If we discover consciousness created matter, so to speak, then we are pretty much talking about a universe(s) which has a "designer" behind it..
@cps_Zen_Run
@cps_Zen_Run 3 года назад
Egg came first via reptiles.
@Dion_Mustard
@Dion_Mustard 3 года назад
@@cps_Zen_Run and how did the reptile emerge ;)
@cps_Zen_Run
@cps_Zen_Run 3 года назад
@@Dion_Mustard amphibians. Perhaps it’s easier to refer to a good textbook on evolution.
@Dion_Mustard
@Dion_Mustard 3 года назад
@@cps_Zen_Run evolution does not explain the universe.
@Dion_Mustard
@Dion_Mustard 3 года назад
@@cps_Zen_Run plus evolution does NOT explain consciousness. no textbook can inform me of that. so shove your materialist text book up your arse...:)
@dyingempty1844
@dyingempty1844 2 года назад
If this knife edge produces witnesses to admire it, then it is plausible to infer that if other knife edges do exist, they should produce lifeforms with the capacity to do the same thing as we are doing right now. As, it would seem that knife edges love to be praised.
@tomwirt319
@tomwirt319 Месяц назад
And creatures with se nse organs to appreciat the whole mess.
@HR-op2cq
@HR-op2cq 3 года назад
Same question differently phrased.. I'm caught in a mind loop... Help! You all know know that Lawrence is not really interested to get to the truth... If he does, how's he gonna make a living??
@PATRICKJLM
@PATRICKJLM 3 года назад
We don't have indication or clue about the Multiverse hypothesis. And by the way, "hypothesis" is the word scientists use for "speculation". The Multiverse Hypothesis created just to counter the unbelievable, yet true, Fine Tuning of the Universe.
@tomwirt319
@tomwirt319 Месяц назад
I had gotten to the question "is thereca life force?" that causes all the molecular structures to line up to cause and support life. Eg. How do proteins line up to allow DNA etc. Ive seen mictobiologists ralk on thia.
@MegaDonaldification
@MegaDonaldification Год назад
The universe is so fine tuned that if you want to exponentially amplify your presence, you only need your mind and consciousness to start it up.
@pavlova717
@pavlova717 3 года назад
Whether we think it is chance or necessity, there is a deep mystery, which is why is life even a possibility. Some say the question 'why is there something rather than nothing' is a logical fallacy. Nonetheless, could we ask 'why is there something conducive to life rather than nothing conducive to life'. It's not simply asking why does life exist, because for that we can say chance or necessity, but it asks why is there that chance or necessity. What is the origin of origins? It might be a fallacious question, but I cannot help but ponder it. How is it that the most fundamental laws of physics and logic, even if its by necessity, result in life, with all its beauty and pleasures? Here there is a temptation to put consciousness before those dry laws, though that would be theological.
@Flyingtaco82
@Flyingtaco82 3 года назад
Fine tuned for chocolate, Labrador retrievers, and Mozart. Not bad.
@johnayres2303
@johnayres2303 3 года назад
I believe the multi-Universe is an infinite sequence of Universes rather than many existing simultaneously.
@gowdsake7103
@gowdsake7103 3 года назад
Of course with fuck all actual evidence
@ishikawa1338
@ishikawa1338 Год назад
Layered through different vibrations and energy waves
@coleorum
@coleorum Год назад
We don't have the right tools to ever understand it. We flounder around with our five senses trying to explain something that we are incapable of explaining. We build fantastic and sophisticated machines that expand our perception of reality. However those machines are products of our limited toolbox and aren't up to the job.
@tedgrant2
@tedgrant2 Год назад
I think there is an unwarranted extension here. There are some places that are suitable for life. But most places in the universe are not suitable for life.
@fjgiie
@fjgiie 5 месяцев назад
Everywhere in Our World will kill you. 99.9999999999999999999% times a trillion will kill you. There are not many earths. Stars are hot, space is cold.
@ping9836
@ping9836 3 года назад
Despite the overwhelming proof of this grand design that points to the maker how could anyone deny just because one can't quantify and put all these things into his tiny little neurons?. Thank you.
@Lalakis
@Lalakis 3 года назад
Who are you thanking ?
@ping9836
@ping9836 3 года назад
@@Lalakis If average scientists, mathematicians and astronomers have joined forces to produce and create this universe using pure science and logic will they allow the solar system to continue to function knowing that the conduct of the human inhabitants there will gladly believed to the power of electrons and what it can do to their latest smartphones innovations thereby putting more money in their pocket eventhough they haven't seen exactly with there naked eyes on how electrons actually works beyond string theory concept. The most mysterious thing really is not how this universe and it's perfect inner workings manifest itself but how is it that despite humanity's negative reputation of turning atomic particles into a nasty thing, crime, greed to power no matter what, plastics, virus, pleasures, scammers, robbers and cheaters. One must ask, how come that both good and bad still breath the same oxygen, uses the same water experience the same sun. This maker must be very very very good so good that it surpasses all understanding because i tell you, if those average scientists, mathematicians and astronomers are in-charge they will have a new project to the nearby galaxy and to finance it they will require a huge rock and the earth will do it. We have the proof in the past they are not satisfied with just bows and arrows so they want more now they became much more complicated because it has the power to end life on earth as we know it. Yeah but some will always argue that it's just a part of the progress. Give me a break. Thank you.
@Lalakis
@Lalakis 3 года назад
@@ping9836 Forget I asked.
@mattcorregan4760
@mattcorregan4760 2 года назад
@@Lalakis Hahaha
@ishikawa1338
@ishikawa1338 Год назад
@@ping9836 the first tool was an idea. Before that there just was
@Raptorel
@Raptorel 3 года назад
Does anybody know what Sir Roger Penrose reffers to when he is talking about the 10^10^123 number? As far as I know, the variation of temperature is 1 part in 100000 at the Big Bang, giving it its low entropy. He seems to be talking about some other special condition.
@tanshihus1
@tanshihus1 3 года назад
Go back to the Susskind interview. It's the cosmological constant which being so small can produce a form of anti-gravity. This is where Alan Guth's ideas about the inflationary period during the Big Bang comes from.
@Raptorel
@Raptorel 3 года назад
@@tanshihus1 But the cosmological constant has an unmatch between theory and observation of 10^120, not 10^10^123. The real value of dark energy is 10^-8 ergs/cm^3. And, by the way, it might be false, Subir Sarkar maintains that it's an apparent local effect and that the Universe is not actually expanding. So it can't be the cosmological constant.
@tanshihus1
@tanshihus1 3 года назад
@@Raptorel I'm no expert on such matters. Penrose and Susskind mention the same number while Reese only hints at during his interview. You only have to look at the program to know that it is stitched together from recordings taken over several years. No reason to expect them to be completely accurate or even current.
@Raptorel
@Raptorel 3 года назад
@@tanshihus1 I am aware of that, of course it is. I've seen pretty much all of the interviews on the closer to truth site anyway, but it's fun to revisit them in a cohesive format for these videos on youtube.
@tomwirt319
@tomwirt319 Месяц назад
There is a talk by Penrose oine explaining it.
@PatrickRyan147
@PatrickRyan147 3 года назад
The question should be; was our reality organically fine-tuned for life (big bang scenario) OR was it manually fine-tuned (holodeck scenario)⁉️
@LoraxChannel
@LoraxChannel 3 года назад
That's a huge or, for something that is not mutually exclusive.
@PatrickRyan147
@PatrickRyan147 3 года назад
But they ARE mutually exclusive. When asked "What is the true nature of reality?" you are usually given three options. 1. Organic big bang scenario 2. Simulation scenario or 3. Holodeck scenario You can't mix and match when it comes to the OVERALL theory of the true nature of reality. For instance, you can have a simulated reality within an organic reality INSIDE a holodeck.. but from the perspective of the people living inside the holodeck THEIR overall scenario will be a holodeck scenario. The scenarios can co-function but they are completely mutually exclusive. You see, that is the difference between the Holographic universe theory and the Holodeck theory.. and ultimately it is why Professor Leonard Susskind and friends can't write the maths for it.. They are barking up the wrong tree. They are trying to make the organic big bang universe theory and the holographic universe theory work together as some kind of hybrid NON-mutually exclusive thing. Susskind is trying to prove that there are holographic projectors outside of our universe creating our organic reality.. and he's trying to do this using a 2D event horizon and quantum entanglement. He will never succeed but major quodus to him for trying. The holodeck theory, on the other hand is the natural successor / corollary of the holographic universe theory because it makes much more sense AND it is mutually exclusive. We don't live in a true organic big bang universe scenario. We live in an organic REALITY that has been recreated inside a holodeck complex super-structure. Our overall scenario from OUR point of view is a holodeck scenario.
@Joe-lb8qn
@Joe-lb8qn Год назад
If the laws of our universe were very slightly different rocks/magnesium atoms/black holes/worms would not exist. Therefore the universe was fine tuned for rocks/magnesium ...etc
@idrearamacirmtamta1293
@idrearamacirmtamta1293 3 года назад
Sorry you have it backwards. Consciousness is fundamental. Life followed.
@Dion_Mustard
@Dion_Mustard 3 года назад
i agree.
@everybodyb3cool836
@everybodyb3cool836 3 года назад
Consciousness is a bit like a roof top. It is, is some relevant context, the most important part of the house but as the saying goes... you can't build a house from the roof top.
@psyseraphim
@psyseraphim 3 года назад
Please demonstrate a disembodied conciousness. Any conciousness absent a brain/central nervous system.
@PatrickRyan147
@PatrickRyan147 3 года назад
Consciousness IS fundamental. I couldn't agree more. What's more is our consciousnesses are holographically projected onto our bodies.. which means.. our souls are computer programs.. which means our original species found a way to live forever by uploading our / their consciousnesses into Eternal Computers.. Where are the Eternal Computers? In the main reality. This reality is a sub-reality of the main reality.
@Dion_Mustard
@Dion_Mustard 3 года назад
@@psyseraphim look up Pam Reynolds. Also, read Pim Van Lommel Consciousness Beyond Life. Now go away.
@djjfive
@djjfive 3 года назад
In my opinion, time shouldn’t come into it. Time is relative to the observer, therefore, what we perceive here as the billions of years it has taken to produce complex life may have only taken a few seconds from another perspective of time. As a guess as to what is happening, I’m entertaining the idea that the universe is repeatedly being born and destroyed, each time with a different rule set of physics, therefore I’m leaning toward the belief that my universe will exist again, so I guess I will exist again within it and this will continue on and on. If this is correct, we will exist infinitely and also not exist infinitely too. I believe this logic would apply to an infinite universe and also to a multiverse. I certainly couldn’t say I know this as fact however if ‘infinite’ plays a part in any of it, at some point it must become true?
@moamoa3303
@moamoa3303 3 года назад
THE CONDITION THAT OUR PLANET IS JUST RIGHT PLACE TO HAVE WATER AND LIFE IS ALSO A CONSTANT COSMOLOGY
@gowdsake7103
@gowdsake7103 3 года назад
And the FACT that 99.99999999999999999999999999 percent of the universe is utterly lethal to us ! Nice fine tuning huh
@tomwirt319
@tomwirt319 Месяц назад
So, why not consciousnezs.
@thenephilim9819
@thenephilim9819 3 года назад
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@polsick
@polsick 3 года назад
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@WoodstockG54
@WoodstockG54 3 года назад
Rise above body consciousness and the answer to your question will no longer exist.
@experiencemystique4982
@experiencemystique4982 3 года назад
Univers is fine tuning to vibration (sound for ej)and light
@agisspentzos7588
@agisspentzos7588 3 года назад
I think the real question is whether the universe is alive or not. I would like to see a video about that.
@LoraxChannel
@LoraxChannel 3 года назад
Short episode. No, the end.
@neffetSnnamremmiZ
@neffetSnnamremmiZ 3 года назад
The real living does never appear in science. That's the difficulty with self knowledge, like Thales explained, because its about the in principle invisible!
@jamesruscheinski8602
@jamesruscheinski8602 3 года назад
Maybe Life and Mind are fine tuning the universe through multiverse (science); probably be more in the realm of God for Life and Consciousness for Mind
@experiencemystique4982
@experiencemystique4982 3 года назад
Tesla thought but interpret by myself.
@lightlightism
@lightlightism 27 дней назад
The Big bang is not the beginning. May be is another stage for the beginning. May be we have unlimited stages for the bignning... This leads us as the multi universes theory to neglect the fine tuning theory or conclusion.
@diegovaldez1359
@diegovaldez1359 3 года назад
How does multiverse jive with the block universe predicted by the special theory of relativity ? Past, present and future are all preset. Only change or entropy gives the illusion of time passing. Are all other universes also fixed ?
@julianmann6172
@julianmann6172 3 года назад
It is a shame you have nothing constructive to say, rather indicative of your state of mind
@spiegelburg
@spiegelburg 3 года назад
Agree, the "fundamental theory" is rejected even though we have no clue if there is one or not. I think talking about probability and statistics is just wrong when it comes to natural constants because we have no other universes available for measurement. Way to much hype and allusion to a "creator" here.
@janhoogendijk8604
@janhoogendijk8604 3 года назад
Is the atom fine tuned for life and mind?
@richardrosecky1574
@richardrosecky1574 3 года назад
ok, difficult to determine why our environment exists. Now add the complexity of us! from two cells merging into one... to us.
@ezbody
@ezbody 3 года назад
The two cells, are they brain cells?
@moamoa3303
@moamoa3303 3 года назад
Create some kind of statistics based only on presumption and there you have your first evidence for the multi universe
@lightyearsawaythejourneyaf6144
@lightyearsawaythejourneyaf6144 3 года назад
Life exists in the universe. possibly not the life that we are used to and that we would like to imagine👩‍🚀🚀
@p0indexter624
@p0indexter624 6 месяцев назад
6:00 whats the hidden trap. what about current theories in QM? no traps? creation might be in layers and just because we have trouble w the the question the layer beyond this one implies ie: where did the creator come from, doesn't mean we cant address the first layer which by way of fine tuning hints at an intellect. and yes there are some alternate theories 😉
@I_AM-MICHAEL
@I_AM-MICHAEL 3 года назад
If not THIS then something else. Whatever It was in the beginning, It would have been the most LOGICAL thing that could occurred at that particular moment. "𝐼𝑛 𝑡ℎ𝑒 𝑏𝑒𝑔𝑖𝑛𝑛𝑖𝑛𝑔 𝑤𝑎𝑠 𝑡ℎ𝑒 𝑳𝑶𝑮𝑶𝑺ᵂᴼᴿᴰ, 𝑎𝑛𝑑 𝑡ℎ𝑒 𝑳𝒐𝒈𝒐𝒔ᵂᴼᴿᴰ 𝑤𝑎𝑠 𝑤𝑖𝑡ℎ 𝑻𝑯𝑬𝑶𝑺ᴳᴼᴰ , 𝑎𝑛𝑑 𝑡ℎ𝑒 𝑳𝒐𝒈𝒐𝒔ᵂᴼᴿᴰ 𝑤𝑎𝑠 𝑻𝒉𝒆𝒐𝒔ᴳᴼᴰ ." -- 𝐽𝑜ℎ𝑛 1:1 𝐾𝐽𝑉+ "𝐴𝑙𝑙 𝑡ℎ𝑖𝑛𝑔𝑠 𝑤𝑒𝑟𝑒 𝑚𝑎𝑑𝑒 𝑏𝑦 𝑨𝑼𝑻𝑶𝑺ᴴᴵᴹ; 𝑎𝑛𝑑 𝑤𝑖𝑡ℎ𝑜𝑢𝑡 𝑨𝑼𝑻𝑶𝑺ᴴᴵᴹ 𝑤𝑎𝑠 𝑛𝑜𝑡 𝑎𝑛𝑦 𝑡ℎ𝑖𝑛𝑔 𝑚𝑎𝑑𝑒 𝑡ℎ𝑎𝑡 𝑤𝑎𝑠 𝑚𝑎𝑑𝑒." -- 𝐽𝑜ℎ𝑛 1:3 𝐾𝐽𝑉+ The Greek word LOGOS (G3056) is where the English word LOGIC comes from. AUTOS (G846) is where words like AUTOMATION and AUTOMATICALLY come from. Autos can mean HIM, HER, THEM, IT or SELF.
@richardvannoy1198
@richardvannoy1198 3 года назад
The Universe is not fine tuned to us. We are fine tuned to it. All possible universes will have life fine tuned to them. How otherwise?
@onemoreriff7644
@onemoreriff7644 3 года назад
Everything must have been fine tuned even before the big bang. Our Universe may sound very old, but in physics terms it's not long enough to be able create all these laws since conception. The Universe is just another seed. So there has to be a plant and so on.
@esecallum
@esecallum 3 года назад
WRONG WAY ROUND. EVOLUTION FINE TUNED TO THE UNIVERSE.
@matishakabdullah5874
@matishakabdullah5874 3 года назад
Circle exists so does the constant for circles...π = 22/7 = circumference/diameter ... but no one can figure out the end of π = 3.142.....! Are pi and Phi values coincidental. ..?
@rotorblade9508
@rotorblade9508 3 года назад
What are the chances that the constants were just right they eventually led to life? 1/10^123 Then what are the chances life existed from the beginning?
@ajhieb
@ajhieb 3 года назад
Not how probability works. Try again.
@calvinhaynes4612
@calvinhaynes4612 3 года назад
Why should this universe's set of properties be any less likely than any other. Sure it is one of an infinite set, but unlikely things happen all the time.
@vaskaventi6840
@vaskaventi6840 3 года назад
You are right that all possible constants are equally unlikely on their own, but when we group all possible constants into “life permitting” constants and “non-life permitting constants”, the life permitting constants are unimaginably less numerous than the non-life permitting constants. What matters here is the result. So while each individual constant is equally unlikely, one result is much much more unlikely than another.
@lindal.7242
@lindal.7242 3 года назад
What "unlikely thing" would you even begin to compare with the creation of a universe and everything it brings with it? There is no comparison that we could ever conceive of as our imagination is limited to the information this particular universe can provide us with. We have no evidence that there are worlds out there somewhere just like ours, it's all speculation. My suggestion to all skeptics is to deal with the set of facts you have in front of you about this world you inhabit, and it's own universe which has perfectly brought forth all of the speciation of life, and properties and elements to sustain it and evolve it. If it looks like a duck and walks like a duck...well you know.
@LoraxChannel
@LoraxChannel 3 года назад
Um because they are? You are basically saying you don't understand the point, so there isn't one. Lol.
@LoraxChannel
@LoraxChannel 3 года назад
@@lindal.7242 yep, for a group that demands evidence, athiests sure make of a ton of speculative fantasy :)
@lindal.7242
@lindal.7242 3 года назад
@Pisstake I can't speak for all believers but I know that a large chunk of us know there is a God and an afterlife because we have had personal experiences with this realm. Unfortunately everyone of us is responsible for our own beliefs and nobody will ever be able to convince a non believer without that non believer searching out the truth and evidence for themselves. The key is to not be satisfied with your assumptions but truly humble yourself and ask God for a sign that you can recognize and God will take the veil off of your eyes. You can live your life just fine without knowing the truth, but your being on this page probably having watched a few if Kuhn' s videos leads me to think that deep down inside you're not even satisfied that your assumptions are correct. This is because we humans all know instinctively that there's a reason we exist in such a place as this, keep following that instinct.
@eduardoguerrero6997
@eduardoguerrero6997 3 года назад
Aqui esta el comentario en español que querias
@chyfields
@chyfields 3 года назад
We are all characters in the Creator’s dream. The dream is more convincing and continuous than our primitive modern-day virtual reality simulations.
@cosmikrelic4815
@cosmikrelic4815 3 года назад
no, that's silly. what happens when the creator wakes up?
@chyfields
@chyfields 3 года назад
@@cosmikrelic4815 Dream = Poetic licence? The Creator’s matrix is self sustaining.
@cosmikrelic4815
@cosmikrelic4815 3 года назад
@@chyfields do you even know what a matrix is? you're just using words you don'r even understand.
@chyfields
@chyfields 3 года назад
@@cosmikrelic4815 The matrix I perceive is like the top sheet of a multi-layered spread sheet, full of formulae, correlations, spectrums, and 0’s and 1s.
@cosmikrelic4815
@cosmikrelic4815 3 года назад
@@chyfields another mixture of words you don't understand. what formulae, correlations between what, spectra of what? these are just meaningless words.
@ALavin-en1kr
@ALavin-en1kr 3 месяца назад
Does life depend on biology or does biology depend on life? There could be planets and universes that can support life without biology and the environment which biology requires to exist.
@mountainjay
@mountainjay 3 года назад
Let's see.... 1) multiverse is a deductive argument arising from the need to explain something that exists but cannot exist by chance ✔️ 2) multiverse argument cannot be tested ✔️. What does the remind you of?
@ezbody
@ezbody 3 года назад
Multiverse was proposed before fine-tuning was discovered, but nice attempt in trying, once again, to project on the scientists your own theistic motivations.
@mountainjay
@mountainjay 3 года назад
@@ezbodythe multiverse argument is not falsifiable, you're quite the theologian.
@heteroclitus
@heteroclitus 3 года назад
The Multiverse is a hypothesis. No-one is asserting it as unassailable fact and putting the unbelievers to death.
@tacodan5658
@tacodan5658 7 месяцев назад
The Answer is right in front of everyones' eyes. They, just don't want to admit it. an Intelligent Agent created the Universe. Otherwise, my computer also came out of multiple computers, and it just came out by "necessity" or change. Fat chance.
@Gringohuevon
@Gringohuevon 3 года назад
My God Britain produces a prodigous amount of old duffers
@LoraxChannel
@LoraxChannel 3 года назад
And Americans seem unable to write a senetence well. Prodigious includes "amount". L2think.
@mikel4879
@mikel4879 3 года назад
No. It is not, Robert !
@mismass7859
@mismass7859 3 года назад
Why can there be life at all, no matter how many multiverses you have?
@BugRib
@BugRib 3 года назад
I think what you really mean is: How can there be _consciousness_ at all?
@mismass7859
@mismass7859 3 года назад
Why is there anything at all, why is it even possible for the natural laws to conspire in such a way that life and consciousness can come about at all, no matter how many multiverses you have. What would be expected is an endless amount of chaotic multiverses where nothing is created ever, because exactly what is it that makes anything to be able to be created at all? We know that mobile phones, shoes and music can be created in this universe because we do create them, so why doesn’t the natural laws conspire to spontaneously assemble shoes for example, which are far less complicated to spontaneously assemble than life and consciousness. Given enough possibilities anything can be created. Why? Just think something more fundamental is missing from these theories.
@johansvaren
@johansvaren 3 года назад
yes otherwise we have not been here chating on youtube, you are univers
@deanrobinson2459
@deanrobinson2459 3 года назад
5. simulation
@maxpower252
@maxpower252 Год назад
To justify fine tuning with Multiverse or God sounds like quitting or giving up to me. But what do I know…
@vitaly6772
@vitaly6772 3 года назад
I can give you a hint question: “is the Earth fine tuned for consciousness and life?”
@cnault3244
@cnault3244 3 года назад
How would you show fine-tuning for consciousness?
@vitaly6772
@vitaly6772 3 года назад
@@cnault3244 I just wanted to say that in case of Earth its obvious that no one has fine-tuned our planet for life and consciousness. There are just billions of planets with different conditions and one of them is Earth. I support multiverse hypothesis
@williamesselman3102
@williamesselman3102 3 года назад
You'll never know one way or the other. Science will never tell you whether or not there is or isn't a God. You will have to do that work yourself.
@cps_Zen_Run
@cps_Zen_Run 3 года назад
Probably not. A hypothesis must be falsifiable to be useful. I can’t get two individuals to agree precisely what god is.
@williamesselman3102
@williamesselman3102 3 года назад
@@cps_Zen_Run that's easy. Consciousness.
@jareknowak8712
@jareknowak8712 3 года назад
Is God a form of life?
@jkang471
@jkang471 3 года назад
No Life and Mind are fine tuned for the Universe
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