Is There a Catholic Antidote to the Crisis in Higher Education?

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Friends, according to Fortune magazine, overall undergraduate enrollment experienced the steepest rate of decline on record from 2019 to 2022, and it has only worsened since then. There are several explanations, but one cause is entirely self-imposed: most universities and colleges have now replaced education with ideology, subverting the search for truth with political indoctrination. Today, we discuss the ideological takeover of higher education and how the Catholic conception of the university can help provide an antidote.
A listener asks, if priests are meant to represent Jesus, are nuns supposed to represent Mary?
00:00 | Intro
01:47 | Catholic social thought tradition and the higher ed crisis
03:50 | Differences between Catholic and secular universities
04:50 | Seeking while knowing the truth
07:33 | Resisting relativism
09:30 | Catholic staff ratios for Catholic universities
11:16 | Segregating Catholic identity
13:51 | Academic freedom at Catholic universities
15:46 | Dicy freedom of speech claims
17:06 | Catholic universities and male participation
18:37 | Higher education and vocational training
20:35 | High costs and accessibility
21:51 | What can we do to course-correct universities that have lost their way?
24:50 | Listener question
26:01 | Word on Fire Institute
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@ChildofGod98765 2 месяца назад

Against all odds God will change my situation. Lord please I need a miracle today please come and rescue me. As a single mother, raising not one but two children on the spectrum is not easy I am overwhelmed constantly struggling to pay bills. Struggling to buy groceries, struggling to do it all. But I won’t give up. I have the faith to believe and receive a blessing from you today Lord. Faith is my shield.

@MrKAC99 2 месяца назад

I will pray for you and the children

@reubenrodrigues7962 2 месяца назад

Do not worry Abba knows our needs and Jesus is in the storm Traveling with you. But hold also Mama Mary she will hold you hand

@bienvenida9610 2 месяца назад

Have trust in God’s grace and goodness. I am praying for you and your two kids!🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏

@thesponge836 Месяц назад

God provides for those who provide for themselves

@JacobBoord Месяц назад

Praying for you!

@JRLeeman 2 месяца назад

The Catholic education I received in high school was functionally indistinct from secular high schools. When religion was touched on, it was articulated in a twee and relativistic manner as if the teacher was sharing their opinion rather than reasoning out objective truth. There was no attempt to foster a sense of Catholic identity and mission. As a result, most of my former classmates are now atheists. The Church should definitely return its gaze to education - focus on completely outdoing secular schools in every field, train its students in philosophy, and promote purposefulness in the subjects being engaged with (e.g. how to use science to serve good).

@growtocycle6992 2 месяца назад

Hopefully you weren't taught that gender is a spectrum and there are many more than 2 genders.

@Retrogamer71 2 месяца назад

Indeed, the marked absence of the field of philosophy and its intellectual reach is testimony to the power of evil. The rigour of theology I believe is also dependent on the panoply of perspective developed in philosophy.

@davidrn5600 2 месяца назад

This is sad but true, we live in dark times my friend.

@BabyBugBug 2 месяца назад

It's almost as if the Church has given up to the dominant secular order (which it has, of course).

@this_name_is_not_available6923 17 дней назад

this is a problem because some catholic schools don’t hire catholics to teach religion subject, or maybe even if they are catholics, they are afraid to offend someone. still the apologetics, philosophy and theology are disappearing and should be brought back.

@user-fj4wv1ch1c 2 месяца назад

I’m about to graduate this summer. As an English major there is a heavy focus on postmodernism… I am so grateful to my sister, she got married last year and I took RCIA with her. Getting to know Jesus, learn more about God and truly believe and trust in Him changed my life and saved me from depression. University could have killed my faith or worse, thank God I was in RCIA while covering Milton’s Paradise Lost.. the amount of peers that sympathized with Satan were many and I could have been one of them if I stayed willfully and pridefully ignorant. I learned about Bishop Barron from father Mike and Dr. Peterson! Also turns out I had one of Barron’s books on my shelf this whole time, definitely reading it now!!!

@martygeorgescu4159 2 месяца назад

It MUST start with Catholic Universities getting serious about the Faith. Enough with watered down relativism.

@marypinakat8594 2 месяца назад

Congratulations Mathew on being the new host for the Word On Fire Show. *Many Thanks Bishop Barron and Mathew* for the delightful and inspiring inaugural conversation in the elegant Word On Fire Studio✨👍

@AstonMonks 2 месяца назад

I’m a student at University of Notre Dame and it angers me every June when they push pride

@splinterbyrd 2 месяца назад

I shouldn't think you're required to take part in Gay Pride, and it's just a damned parade for God's sake

@joe42m13 2 месяца назад

Notre Dame academic year ends in May. Is there a specific event you're referring to?

@constancemartin933 2 месяца назад

@@joe42m13He can still be angry in June over an event in May.

@joe42m13 2 месяца назад

@constancemartin933 He specifically said "every June" at Notre Dame. I live a mile from campus: the student body is gone by May and I've never seen or heard of anything "pride" related pushed by the university.

@BabyBugBug 2 месяца назад

In my time as a student at super left-wing UC Berkeley, I never had any school-sanctioned Pride events (nor would I have cared otherwise). Any events done were done at the student level by clubs, and those were very tame considering most students were gone for the summer.

@iamahorsenut7541 2 месяца назад

I study here in Australia at a Catholic university, and a bit dissapointed with how much Marxist indoctrination and gender studies garbage is now part and parcel of learning. I want to learn in Godly surroundings, not be subjected to being forced to accept LGBT ideology

@suhaiblone10 2 месяца назад

Go back to dark ages. Where catholic theology was the main ideology. Or perhaps enlighten yourself a little bit, so as to reduce your bigotry. Remember god(and certainly Christian god) does not exist. Why do you want to live a life of slave by obeying a man who lived 2000 years ago.

@BabyBugBug 2 месяца назад

@@suhaiblone10 I think your face mask is on a little bit too tight, sparky.

@minimaxmiaandme.4971 2 месяца назад

Yes, I agree - went back to University after my first degree and was shocked at how much education is degraded to uphold wokeism.

@iamahorsenut7541 2 месяца назад

@@minimaxmiaandme.4971 and unfortunately the Catholic lecturers partake in it. Very disheartening

@nightyew2160 Месяц назад

Because of this kind of stuff I worry about sending kids to college at all. Things were bad enough when I attended when it was mainly students hooking up in the dorms and using their newfound freedom to stop attending church. Now from the top down there is a lot of antireligious pressure, and if you resist the message most people will deride you and label you a bigot. I know some very good teachers who live constantly wondering how soon they will be fired because they don't promote the message.

@user-qh4te1xz5r 2 месяца назад

I know someone who went to Hillsdale College and was told by her that more people graduated from there as Catholic than what started out they have a good Catholic student evangelical group there

@noyesharrigan6217 2 месяца назад

Attended a Jesuit Catholic university in NY the 90s. Learned progressive and Marxist thought/values from multiple professors in the humanities, which I found to be convincing at the time. Faith was totally absent from daily experience as a student unless you sought it out. Today, this university is as liberal as any Ivy. Been thinking about this a lot as my son enters HS next year.

@jonathanmorel6121 Месяц назад

I assume you are talking about Fordham University. I was also there in the 90’s and could not agree more with your comment. Like many Catholic schools, they identify as being “in the Catholic tradition” but have lost Christ as their true center. Sadly, Fordham now seems only slightly more Catholic than a secular private university.

@noyesharrigan6217 Месяц назад

@@jonathanmorel6121 They identify as a Catholic university and apparently no one is telling them different.

@joe42m13 2 месяца назад

I went to an inner-city Christian Brothers high school, and the dedication to extending a Private Catholic education to the poor was quite impressive. Several of my classmates went on to become Christian Brothers themselves.

@Denis.Collins 2 месяца назад

In Ireland and England they became a byword for cruelty. Academically strong, but education by physical contact.

@nightyew2160 Месяц назад

The idea of school in service to the poor is not dead. I know a deacon who was preparing his school to take on homeless orphans as boarders because there was a need.

@charlesmichaud9931 2 месяца назад

Great show, Bishop Barron and Matthew! I really love the new settings on the Word on Fire Show and also Bishop's Sermons.

@OldTomato44 2 месяца назад

Great job, Matthew! Glad to have you on the show.

@user-tr9fx8il2o 2 месяца назад

I have often overlooked this series in the past because of the style and pacing of the conversation, with Bishop and Brandon being remote. ("two talking heads"). I love the new setup. Already enjoying it and looking forward to more.

@mynameisAMRA 2 месяца назад

Not to be negative--offering some constructive criticism: the high pass filter on the voices is set too high. Sounds tinny. Otherwise the production is great. Really nice to see you conversing in the same room. Thanks!

@cydnimclean1807 Месяц назад

I agree that college was pushed too hard, certainly over my generation. I know many people that struggle with feelings of inadequacy over not getting a degree even though they make good money and have strong faith, close family, etc. College shouldn't be a requirement for success in life. My husband and I are raising our kids to look at all avenues and if college is a requirement for the avenue that interests them, then college is the path for them, so I love that Bishop Barren touched on that!

@haydongonzalez-dyer2727 2 месяца назад

A large issue is also price. The ideal education seems to be a Catholic liberal arts education that teaches some kind of high-earning trade skill such as something in healthcare, technology, or other high-earning fields. Even vocational training like mechanics or plumbing should be offered.

@catb.5862 2 месяца назад

It’s the same in Catholic healthcare! We need people who support Catholic ethics!

@TheModerndisciple 2 месяца назад

This is excellent Bishop Barron. I will re post this video on my blogs. I admire your insights and bright reflections... when I see or hear you, it's like being in front of St Augustine! You and your super awesome team of Word on Fire totally rock!

@colleenfrance Месяц назад

Matthew is a great addition 🙌🏻👍🏻✨thank you for this pivotal discussion.

@shawnl1155 2 месяца назад

To the wonderful new host - boost the bass on your mic/ soundboard for a more balanced sound. Also the Bishop’s mic sounds a bit muffled or distant. Little bit of tweaking and should be great!

@javiercortes5232 2 месяца назад

Great program. I loved the format and when someone as intelligent as Bishop Barron says "I don't have a clear answer " it's because the questions were really good. Greetings from Mexico

@johnmartin4650 2 месяца назад

Welcome….good to see you .

@Psmcdoug 2 месяца назад

How can we imagine a Catholic or Protestant university where there are ANY faculty who are not in alignment with Christ? It seems crazy to me that we would hire a non Christian to teach at one of our universities.

@lisamarieyavarone2362 2 месяца назад

YES, agree 100%, JR, the Church should 'definitely return its gaze to education', but let's not forget WE ARE THE CHURCH. Become a CCD instructor, volunteer at your Catholic school---playground and hall monitors, aftercare staff, coaches, tutors, PTO/PTA members all interact with students and can model and share the treasures of our Catholic faith with students! Lenten Blessings to all from the Jersey Shore. And nice job, new host Matthew. Not easy to replace a beloved, but you are great! :)

@waynecr 2 месяца назад

Great first show in the new studios. Lots to think about.

@marycatalano507 2 месяца назад

Thank you for this discussion!

@nathanngumi8467 Месяц назад

Great studio set and episode!

@grigorymenhel4441 2 месяца назад

Very good conversation. Intelectual open and relegion, very high material. Thank for this. Also, I have a question. Can you do a program that deals with the character of Melchizedek and the relation of this character to Jesus?

@alphacharlietango969 2 месяца назад

WOW! Thank you. This is excellent Your Excellency ✝️

@user-om7mk4xf2f 2 месяца назад

Thanks for a wide-ranging conversation. It is interestin to listen to this discussion as someone working at a University outside the U.S. where things seem a bit different to what is being described here. This is a relatively short conversation and so naturally limited, but I wonder would it be possible to discuss some of the more practical issues in more detail elsewhere? For example how do academics' employment conditions - especially the increasing use of adjunct staff - affect things? This could be a particular issue if you want staff from different disciplines to have time and space to talk to each other. I enjoyed reading Zena Hitz's work on the need to increase our focus on teaching rather than research - is this something that should be considered in more detail? Issues of cause and effect - I may be wrong but where I live the changing ratio in women to men in Higher Education seemed to predate widespread social discussion of 'toxic masculinity' and seemed to relate more to girls' performance at school before University (sometimes explained by girls' greater mature at about 18, not sure if this is true or not). It was a trend seen in the physical sciences as well as the arts and humanities. Finally I'd like to know more about the limits on academic freedom and speech raised here. While we might all agree on the worst things - what are the grey areas, and who would decide? That aspect of the discussion worried me quite a bit. Thanks again

@praxidescenteno3233 2 месяца назад

We had Saint Martin of Porres, Saint Rose of Lima, Saint Mother Teresa from Calcuta, Saint Priest from Ars

@soniaaltuzar6191 2 месяца назад

Buenísimo programa, gracias, saludos desde México

@user-km4ro7xp2s 2 месяца назад

I have been thinking about going to school to study more psychology. I would like to go for a second Master's Degree. It's important to me because there were a large number of people from the parish and the diocese that I belonged to who helped me get better enough to seek my Commercial Driver's License and a smaller number of people intensively helping me after my Class C sized vehicle and I took a tumble with a drunk driver. I'm hoping that my path leads to a really good over the road job that will help me pay for my second Master's Degree on my own, and out of my own pocket. Then hopefully the more classes I take -- then I will be able to apply for grants and scholarships. I have disability, now, but I have more abilities than disabilities, and I can still learn. This dialog gives me some hope that I am heading in the right direction in my life.

@sandyv2195 2 месяца назад

Sounds like you have a plan. God bless you!

@notloki3377 2 месяца назад

this is quite strong, love it.

@saraanic9436 2 месяца назад

Best wishes for the new format! This episode feeled a bit rushed and rehearsed, though. I guess the new host needs some time to get used to the show and, of course, the Bishop doesn't have the same dynamic with two different people.

@livia.2016 2 месяца назад

Thank you. Very interesting topic. I like so much those judges, lawyers and senators who are hungry and thirsty of Justice and Mercy. Those who will never use the State Power as a tool for their own agenda. Those are truly brave people because they fight daily for the Law and not against Him.

@garfieldbraithwaite8590 2 месяца назад

Great start

@charlesedenfield8947 Месяц назад

Excellent beginning, trust that Brandon succeeds fulfilling what God has planned for him as well as he did hosting this show.

@shudson65143 2 месяца назад

Partly why I am an ongoing Member of the Word on Fire Institute...several hints as to why actually!!

@gustafmagaard-ok4ly Месяц назад

A very nice show! Thank you very much!! 😀

@banquo80s99 2 месяца назад

I dont mind my kids being taught postmodernism, marxism, feminist agenda, etc for as long these theories are taught just like any other things besides. The point is to explore Truth by NOT sidestepping the other contrary ideologies --- this so that kids develop critical thought and hopefully arrived at informed decisions....Thnanks, Bp B and Matthew!!...Love lots from Manila

@jasonderosa1137 2 месяца назад

The biggest impediment in my opinion is the cost. Both University and younger schools. I would love to be able to send my kids to Catholic school but there is no way I can afford to send all 5. We need a school of choice program in this nation to give the tax dollars to the school where we want our kids to go instead of these public schools.

@harleymann2086 Месяц назад

This is good news! We don’t need most of our children paying for higher education. We need them to learn self-sufficiency; God, also, of course.

@JoeF-nr6jq Месяц назад

There is a great relief artwork at St Norbert College in De Pere, WI, of how all academic subjects are related to Christ, the Truth.

@brendamyc3173 2 месяца назад

Yes, to teach the Faith as it is applied to the Vocation of each person as assigned by God and to walk with them guiding them to Him so that they can grow in who they are in relation to Him in the context of their lives and, not what the world thinks that relationship should be.

@brendamyc3173 2 месяца назад

There is no greater love than this than to lay down one’s life for a friend. The the Cross relies on this too. No longer slaves God calls you friends. We are freed from sin and are elevated to friendship with God and each other. That’s what Sainthood and participation in the Mystical Body of Christ is.

@markorton-8175 2 месяца назад

Perfect 👍

@Stupidityindex 2 месяца назад

If Jesus Christ had a competent God, then why are the Jews not buying it after 2000 years. Believer in divine nonsense. You can't explain why your faith is respectable. Why God values incompetence such as Moses, Worlds worst navigator. Or Jonah, having faith was tossed overboard, like an idiot, he asked for it. Or how about Jesus Christ, failing to sell his new wine to the Jews for 2000 years, all the time saying he will come back and finish the job. You would have us all pretend God made Mormons so Christians would know how Jews feel. Shame on you for ignoring nothing fails like prayers in a children's hospital.

@Stupidityindex 2 месяца назад

@@brendamyc3173 We, "know them by their works" & these indoctrinate children. If Jesus Christ had a competent God, then why are the Jews not buying it after 2000 years. Believer in divine nonsense. You can't explain why your faith is respectable. Why God values incompetence such as Moses, Worlds worst navigator. Or Jonah, having faith, was tossed overboard, like an idiot, he asked for it. Or how about Jesus Christ, failing to sell his new wine to the Jews for 2000 years, all the time saying he will come back and finish the job. You would have us all pretend God made Mormons so Christians would know how Jews feel. Shame on you for ignoring nothing fails like prayers in a children's hospital. My sheep hear My voice being the _slavery_ of sheep. "Christ hath redeemed us from the curse of the law, being made a curse for us: for it is written, Cursed is every one that hangeth on a tree:" "My Father, which gave them me, is greater than all" Galatians 3:13 King James Version 13 John 10

@batsanim Месяц назад

Transitioning from "higher education is in trouble due to plummeting undergraduate admissions" to "one cause is the ideological takeover of higher education" is poorly formed. During this discussion, "wokeism" is ill-defined so I cannot necessarily agree with any of the conclusions. Bishop Barron doesn't provide a sufficient explanation at 09:00. What is "critical theory"? I'm a huge Bishop Barron fan but this show has left me fearful that Matthew and Bishop Barron are victims of this Trumpian era mind virus that "disagreement with the structural inequalities in society" means that you are anti-Christian/Catholic or communist. Please. Can we try to define these charged words -- and, more importantly, our beliefs -- before throwing them around haphazardly.

@sonicmastersword8080 2 месяца назад

Yes, but it is probably better in the longterm for higher education to fail. What was once institutions where men went to learn and apply his gifts has now become the bane of society in that it effectively enforces an order that was doomed to fail. The walled nature of higher education is its ultimate downfall-it needs to intermingle and become intimate with reality again. It would be better if the idea of elite vs common were put to rest. As the church is universal, society needs to adopt the notion of any moral improvement is good improvement, no matter where it germinates from. This was one of America's core strengths in the late 19th and early 20th century.

@Stupidityindex 2 месяца назад

We, "know them by their works" & these indoctrinate children. If Jesus Christ had a competent God, then why are the Jews not buying it after 2000 years. Believer in divine nonsense. You can't explain why your faith is respectable. Why God values incompetence such as Moses, Worlds worst navigator. Or Jonah, having faith, was tossed overboard, like an idiot, he asked for it. Or how about Jesus Christ, failing to sell his new wine to the Jews for 2000 years, all the time saying he will come back and finish the job. You would have us all pretend God made Mormons so Christians would know how Jews feel. Shame on you for ignoring nothing fails like prayers in a children's hospital. My sheep hear My voice being the _slavery_ of sheep. "Christ hath redeemed us from the curse of the law, being made a curse for us: for it is written, Cursed is every one that hangeth on a tree:" "My Father, which gave them me, is greater than all" Galatians 3:13 King James Version 13 John 10

@MartinLopez-mo7tm 2 месяца назад

In my opinion as a scholar at a Land Grant University, politics overwhelms the search for Truth when the two overlap.

@Naizirilolz 2 месяца назад

So does religion.

@MartinLopez-mo7tm 2 месяца назад

@Naizirilolz Aquinas said Science and Religion are consistent, Kant said the don't even overlap. This not the 16th century.

@K.P.LEE4 2 месяца назад

Any specific recommendations for catholic colleges? I live in Texas but I could do online as well.

@maddiebaxstresser4037 2 месяца назад

University of Dallas is a fantastic Catholic university that leans into the classical education Bishop Barron mentioned.

@K.P.LEE4 2 месяца назад

@@maddiebaxstresser4037 yes I’m considering UD but I don’t think I want to live in Dallas. Did you live there? What was your experience? I want to be an English major btw.

@annawalters4062 2 месяца назад

Look at Thomas Aquinas College in St. Paula, Ca.

@praxidescenteno3233 2 месяца назад

Yes, be as humble must was our LOVED Jesús Christ! Who's said the son of the man doesn't have where to rest the head! SO humble try this

@christopherkennedy44 Месяц назад

Please turn up the levels on your microphones.

@splinterbyrd 2 месяца назад

The decline in undergraduate applications is surely and principally down to there being no jobs at the end of it. Men are still expected to be the breadwinners, and going to college doesn't put food on the table.

@Naizirilolz 2 месяца назад

Also there was a pandemic going on in 2020-2022. =)

@Stupidityindex 2 месяца назад

@heggemd 2 месяца назад

Finance, accounting, engineering, healthcare certainly put food on the table.

@h82cUg0 2 месяца назад

Get the religious orders/ communities back in the schools. They are bound by vows; seculars are not. Obedience to the teachings of the Church are essential

@Stupidityindex 2 месяца назад

@@h82cUg0 "It is written", not that it is true. We, "know them by their works" & these indoctrinate children. If Jesus Christ had a competent God, then why are the Jews not buying it after 2000 years. Believer in divine nonsense. You can't explain why your faith is respectable. Why God values incompetence such as Moses, Worlds worst navigator. Or Jonah, having faith, was tossed overboard, like an idiot, he asked for it. Or how about Jesus Christ, failing to sell his new wine to the Jews for 2000 years, all the time saying he will come back and finish the job. You would have us all pretend God made Mormons so Christians would know how Jews feel. Shame on you for ignoring nothing fails like prayers in a children's hospital. "My sheep hear My voice" being the _slavery_ of sheep. "Christ hath redeemed us from the curse of the law, being made a curse for us: for it is written, Cursed is every one that hangeth on a tree:" "My Father, which gave them me, is greater than all" Galatians 3:13

@praxidescenteno3233 2 месяца назад

SO at all Universitys must Say Every day thanks You Misael, Sidrac and Abdenago! Their Angels Best care of young People!

@IvanGarcia-cx5jm 2 месяца назад

Technical educations are good for some people. They can provide a good paying job. A stable life. If the person does not like studying that is fine. But if the person does like to learn, I would not recommend it because it could clamp the individual's potential. Higher education and learning is not something useful only to find a job, but also for life in general, and I think it should be encouraged for everyone, even in their free time, even if they have a technical career. It is part of life, like the difference between read and not being able to read. Not having a good education is a disadvantage in society. And it is also the best for society. If the masses are well educated, we can have a better democracy. Otherwise they could easily be manipulated.

@texangentlemen3115 2 месяца назад

Much better layout. The zoom calls are not conducive to authentic conversation.

@Outspokenguy43 2 месяца назад

I Want To Help Spread Catholic Everywhere & Get Pride Out & Get Rid Of Woke Ideology For Good 🙏📿

@classic_kennedy 2 месяца назад

What is Woke Ideology?

@GiovaniBriguente 2 месяца назад

When I was looking for an academic job 3 years ago, two Catholic institutions dismissed my application exactly because I am a practicing Catholic. At the end, a Presbyterian institution hired me and even sponsored my visa.

@vickijohnson3768 2 месяца назад

Is it your thought that Notre Dame has remained true to the the truths of a Catholic University?

@ckordiolis Месяц назад

Matthew seems like a great host but what happened to Brandon?

@thn929 2 месяца назад

at 23:30, what principle is Bishop Barron describing when he says "it's sort of a _____ principle, let's see what happens, if the Lord is behind them, they'll flourish"?

@K.P.LEE4 2 месяца назад

"And now I say unto you, Refrain from these men, and let them alone: for if this counsel or this work be of men, it will come to nought: "But if it be of God, ye cannot overthrow it; lest haply ye be found even to fight against God." - Acts 5:38-39, King James Version

@K.P.LEE4 2 месяца назад

But I don’t know how reliable this principle is because most successful people aren’t really with Christ. If a pimp becomes successful does that mean Christ is behind him. Maybe this principle specifically refers to religious freedom endeavors

@wesmurrell8272 2 месяца назад

I think he's referring to "the Gamaliel Principle"

@thn929 2 месяца назад

@@wesmurrell8272that's it! thanks!

@thn929 2 месяца назад

@@wesmurrell8272 that's it! thanks!

@joannapeters4738 2 месяца назад

Perhaps they should have said “I condemn the conditions which have given rise to groups which feel the need to act out like this.” I also think that they were responding to the way they were being bullied & harassed & obviously (& with a personal distain) pre- judged already by the speaker, who was framing things so that those being ‘questioned’ were already made out to look like the bad guys. They set up/ confirmed their own opposition it was so obvious watching (& it felt like watching a car crash). It’s painful (& so sad and disappointing) to listen to BB not acknowledging the bigger picture here. Does he not think that Jewish people need Jesus (‘too’ or perhaps rather ‘MOST OF ALL’ - esp. after watching that speaker that day).. isn’t there a saint (a woman religious) who said the most anti- Semitic thing you can possibly do is to NOT share with a Jewish person about (‘their’*)Jesus ? *theirs 1st & also, what about ‘glory and honour for the Jew first, but condemnation for the Jew 1st also.. ‘(in Paul’s writings, who was Jewish). What about that ?

@TrapperDavido 2 месяца назад

More firm, clear, loving paternalistic leadership from the Church. Boldly draw, teach, and protect the bright lines of the way of the one true faith.

@Retrogamer71 2 месяца назад

Ideology is good, no? On the account that the ideology and its historical materialism is entirely apt to the present day industry, economy and class of work. What is the fear? The absence of conscience, pragmatism and empathy is the hosting ground of evil for the lack of embodiment. 8:30 Great assessment by BRB. 17:30 Isn't the Catholic identity in all history attached and rightly so to the Father and the embodiment of patristic development of the human spirit through rigorous intellectual training for and by the image of man or masculine identity. Or perhaps the symbolic interchange with the gender of Christ and his disciples? Is it not the natural orientation to a teacher or an institution that a young person having identity as self and natural biology that their growth attaches to reflection of that self same embodiment of identity? 22:00 so what is the meaning of pastoral care in the context of the laiety?

@praxidescenteno3233 2 месяца назад

As i wait all My life

@mverna3628 2 месяца назад

We need to reinstate the monastery system where lay people lived on church property farmed the land and became self sufficient while the clergy would provide education, health care and family services. It worked before….

@fotisvon9943 2 месяца назад

this would be great but it requires a great shift not only in the secular but the monastic as well. plus this would mean that monasteries would have to begin this change. there are only a few monasteries in america that are setup to transition this way and are they even going to?

@Denis.Collins 2 месяца назад

How many clergy are there who are able and willing to do this? It sounds nice, but perhaps anarcho syndicalism is nearer to a practical alternative.

@fotisvon9943 2 месяца назад

@@Denis.Collins anarcho syndicalism?

@Denis.Collins 2 месяца назад

@@fotisvon9943 a self sustaining commune. It doesn't have to be atheist.

@fotisvon9943 2 месяца назад

@@Denis.Collins would a monastery fit that term or would it be different?

@luciArtist_ Месяц назад

Thank you, Bishop Barron! I agree to it totally. Catholic Colleges need to become a real evangelizing resource to present true God, otherwise not need to exist! Also we need to face to the fact that the most of colleges around the world were built originally from the real faith to God! But the newer generations of human beings little by little walked away from their original purpose, and teach things not good for people’s souls, but we all know , if a person lost soul, smarter s/he is, the more harmful things s/he could do to ruin their own goodness even to the society! Now, it is time to awaken and rebuild the true relationship with God. Especially, since 1962, the Supreme Court has repeatedly ruled that school-mandated prayers in public schools are unconstitutional, more and more people in this country started to abandon God! See it now, after 60 years, what is happening to people’s souls!

@luciArtist_ Месяц назад

Real education is about wisdom, not only about intelligence!

@luciArtist_ Месяц назад

This is a confusing thing about the definition of Freedom in the Constitution. Does it originally mean to protect people’s freedom to ---believe in GOD(praying to God is supposed to get protected)? Since the Constitution came from the Bible!

@user-yp4nu3cw1s 2 месяца назад

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@CCootauco Месяц назад

I actually think Catholic vocational schools would work out very well. Or atleast catholic colleges/universities that teach skills and specialties. It would also balance out the saturation of progressivism in the realm of tech.

@susanparker767 2 месяца назад

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@Stupidityindex 2 месяца назад

@blujeans9462 2 месяца назад

What happened to Brandon? He was excellent and so professional and natural. This commentator is also very good - but I enjoyed Brandon. Did I miss his exit from this position?

@sandyv2195 2 месяца назад

Yes, Brandon announced his change in role at the end of the prior episode / his last episode as host. Happily, he's still with WOF.

@blujeans9462 2 месяца назад

@@sandyv2195 Thanks! Bummer, I must have missed it - I thought I watch them all. Oh well - I'll have to check it out. thanks, again!

@denitrawilliams751 2 месяца назад

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@joshlarkin5575 2 месяца назад

I went to Duquesne University, an alleged Catholic university, for 7 years. It is “Catholic” purely in name only

@thyikmnnnn 2 месяца назад

I’m looking forward to some episodes addressing the lunacy of the American far right.

@GiaNescio 2 месяца назад

I hope you will find it. But it seems Bishop Barron has started hugging white supremacy Republicanism tightly. I have met many people who had no idea there were Catholics all over the world and not all of them were white Europeans.

@tomgreene1843 2 месяца назад

Perhaps some of Newman and the folk at Austin ..? I don't live in the States but ideology seems to be significant as it is in Western Europe...see Kathleen Stock / Dawkins/Helen Joyceand others ...none of these is Catholic to my knowledge ?

@clementgavi7290 2 месяца назад

A man called Robert Dussey whent to the Seminary has been a Beatitudes Monk, Franciscan Friar, etc, but has only found hope and purpose for his life in the hands of a 60+year-old bloody and dynastic tyranny in West Africa Togo and because that he becomes the chief negotiator for countries of Africa, the Caribbean, and the Pacific, in the framework of their cooperation with the European Union. Is this a Catholic remedy? The Church teaches values, principles, the goodness of God, etc. But contradictions are one thing, and one thing is the teachings.

@edwardlorden2996 2 месяца назад

I was studying for an MDiv at a Catholic theologate as a layman trying to learn more about my faith. My concern is that the Catholic Moral Theology Academy is informed by the secular Social Sciences, which is heavily ideological. I see that even in the documentary trajectory in Social Teaching. Pope Leo XIII, through the three encyclicals "Quod Apostolici Muneris", "Arcanum" and "Rerum Novarum" taught that the ideology of Socialism, Communism and Nihilism is always and everywhere evil. Yet, even beginning in "Quadragesimo Anno" I see a trajectory of incrementally embracing some of the foulest tenets Socialism, including depreciation of private property and the glorification of the State as Savior for the poorest of the poor. I find, because of my concerted study of the three Leonine encyclicals about Socialism, I have found that I must dissent from the current form Catholic Social Teaching. It is a thin veiled acquiescence to an ideology that is antitheological in nature.

@Retrogamer71 2 месяца назад

Are the Bishops taking in such argument?

@maciejszary7031 2 месяца назад

Hi What happened to the previous host? Regards

@danmays5102 2 месяца назад

He's still with word on Fire going other things. I miss his enthusiastic voice.

@josephtsalisbury 2 месяца назад

I really miss Brandon :-(

@nb2081 2 месяца назад

I really miss Brandon I wish he could do some kind of a podcast with Bishop Barron I am not sure. Miss his enthusiastic approach to all subjects and it was so lovely . I love what Bishop is doing but I guess God has other plans. 😢😢😢😢🙁🙁😢😢😢😢

@Shevock Месяц назад

The decline of attendance at universities is not automatically a bad thing. Education being misconstrued as university schooling is a real problem. Better get yourself a library card and use it than most utilitarian majors. We are not our jobs and universities aren't well situated to teach anything but that we are our jobs and nothing more.

@iamahorsenut7541 2 месяца назад

The only masculinity that is toxic is lack of Godly moral raised boys growing into decent adult males doing great things for God and the Church. Men need much more encouragement to be moral and Godly and representative of Jesus Christ and His love

@kellibuzzard9431 2 месяца назад

At first glance: we might begin w the crisis in Catholic K-12 education over the last 50 or so years. Didn't the Catholic education of children used to represent the best of Christian and Classical education? Weight argue that the collapse of Catholic education in the wake of Vatican 2 is a primary source of the demise of American higher education.

@sophy610 Месяц назад

So many times though the theologians themselves have lost their faith!

@docjoei2224 Месяц назад

Make Catholic Education Catholic Again. Bishop Barron needs to be the next pope😊

@larrymaida4514 2 месяца назад

Christ is the center everything else revolves around him

@lisacatherineschaubroeck2348 2 месяца назад

I pray I find a Catholic university, preferrably in Canada.

@martinp1544 2 месяца назад

Imagine that, a Catholic university having at least 51% Catholic faculty is a controversial..... And that at a Catholic university Theology not being at the center of the education.

@user-wj7oo1ez3m 2 месяца назад

I think schools should be kept completely free of religion

@paulmarotto3911 Месяц назад

They don't have to if the school is private.

@user-wj7oo1ez3m Месяц назад

@@paulmarotto3911 I didn't say they had to I said I think because it's schools try and facts where they can .

@augenblik9016 2 месяца назад

"most universities have replaced education with ideology". I understand the subtext of what you are saying, but that kind of blanket statement is just not true. I teach and conduct research at a major university, travel to other universities for conferences etc., and I just do not see evidence for that kind of sweeping statement. I am a Catholic and I like to think I have not been indoctrinated, thanks. I little more humility and perspective might be useful for these conversations.

@WaterCat5 2 месяца назад

You shouldn't look for those things in Bishop Barron. Man has drunk his own Kool aid.

@Naizirilolz 2 месяца назад

This is such a weird far right political talking point. Of course numbers are going to be different for that time period because there was a pandemic going on. This is just the intersection of politics and religion where religion wants to insert itself further into education. Ideology certainly hasn't replaced education, but education is the cure for some of the dumber ideologies in our society.

@splinterbyrd 2 месяца назад

Agreed. It's difficult to believe that university lectures in astrophysics contain no astronomy and are instead all about critical race theory

@ashleynovels 2 месяца назад

Yes I agree the introduction was verbal clickbait. Hopefully he’ll get a more moderate tone, it is his first one.

@Denis.Collins 2 месяца назад

My experience is of teaching History in England. In that subject area there is absolutely no tolerance of views that depart from an accepted narrative. Try to even mention that the Inquisition was nothing like it is portrayed, or that the Crusades had multiple and complex causes and your career can end very quickly.

@declangerardoconnor1321 2 месяца назад

loose the clip board son.

@solavita306 Месяц назад

I strongly recommend all Christian denominations start opening Christ oriented trade schools. Jesus himself worked with his hands for a living and all work we do is a service we can do for the Kingdom.

@praxidescenteno3233 2 месяца назад

When you'll ask Saints helped from self Glory normally Jesús Christ did all way to back to himself

@praxidescenteno3233 2 месяца назад

The básic needs are ethic SO Jesús Christ ever leaves all free cause they first attends their básic needs SO all places must be confortable as Jesús Christ did for his disciples specially his LOVE atention

@benhills1340 2 месяца назад

Go Irish!

@stcolreplover 2 месяца назад

This is definitely the most important area the Church needs to effect. A Catholic formation of the elite class would radically change the evils now proliferated by them.

@brendamyc3173 2 месяца назад

The young were promised high paying jobs and the old were promised they could have their sexual revolution now their child bearing duties are over:

@brendamyc3173 2 месяца назад

So it was easy for them to accept the arrangements they did.

@stcolreplover 2 месяца назад

@@brendamyc3173 ?

@Stupidityindex 2 месяца назад

@@brendamyc3173 If Jesus Christ had a competent God, then why are the Jews not buying it after 2000 years. Believer in divine nonsense. You can't explain why your faith is respectable. Why God values incompetence such as Moses, Worlds worst navigator. Or Jonah, having faith was tossed overboard, like an idiot, he asked for it. Or how about Jesus Christ, failing to sell his new wine to the Jews for 2000 years, all the time saying he will come back and finish the job. You would have us all pretend God made Mormons so Christians would know how Jews feel. Shame on you for ignoring nothing fails like prayers in a children's hospital.

@Stupidityindex 2 месяца назад

@Stafus 2 месяца назад

if god wanted us to have free will "he" would not have brought his existence to our attention.

@Naizirilolz 2 месяца назад

Nope. This is a weird right-wing talking point, education hasn't been "replaced" with any ideology. Keep religion out of schools and government, like the founding fathers intended.

@tomgjokaj 2 месяца назад

You clearly aren't Catholic or a Christian because you are a left-wing lunatic and I guarantee you you vote for that Democrat policies which are absolutely satanic shame on you

@Stupidityindex 2 месяца назад

we know them by their works & these indoctrinate children. If Jesus Christ had a competent God, then why are the Jews not buying it after 2000 years. Believer in divine nonsense. You can't explain why your faith is respectable. Why God values incompetence such as Moses, Worlds worst navigator. Or Jonah, having faith was tossed overboard, like an idiot, he asked for it. Or how about Jesus Christ, failing to sell his new wine to the Jews for 2000 years, all the time saying he will come back and finish the job. You would have us all pretend God made Mormons so Christians would know how Jews feel. Shame on you for ignoring nothing fails like prayers in a children's hospital.

@tomgjokaj 2 месяца назад

Shame on you

@Stupidityindex 2 месяца назад

@Ruger1022 2 месяца назад

Yet they intended to keep the government out of schools and religion

@stefani991 2 месяца назад

Re the bit about majority Catholic faculty and then only those who agree with it, I don't know about that. Then it just becomes an echo chamber just like the far left higher ed institutions are today. You cannot only surround yourself with people who agree with you. In higher ed especially, you need your beliefs challenged. Hard disagree with that part.

@stooch66 2 месяца назад

I’m sorry, an echo chamber? An echo chamber of the true Faith? That is far different than an echo chamber of far left thought. Catholic universities and schools BEGIN with the proper formation in the Faith. It is the true Faith, not one of many options. If you believe that is just one of many options, then you will have a hard time accepting that a Catholic university should be anchored in Christ and His teaching. He is the Logos.

@stefani991 2 месяца назад

@@stooch66 Yes, an echo chamber. Allowing only one viewpoint can lead to confirmation bias, where individuals only seek out information that confirms their existing beliefs. This can hinder intellectual growth and limit the ability to critically evaluate ideas. Consider what happened to Galileo and his heliocentric theory. The Church's initial rejection of his views was based on a narrow interpretation of Scripture and a lack of openness to new ideas. This led to misunderstanding and conflict that could have been avoided with more diverse perspectives among the clergy and scholars of the time. The Church's acknowledgment of its mishandling of Galileo's case serves as a reminder that institutions can err. Embracing diverse perspectives can help prevent such errors in the future by encouraging humility and openness to new ideas. Also, in today's world, we need to be able to engage with people from diverse backgrounds and faiths. Exposure to a variety of perspectives within education can better prepare us for the complexities of the real world. I understand your perspective on the importance of a Catholic university being anchored in the true Faith. However, there is value in diversity of thought, even in a Catholic institution. Allowing for discussion of varying and even opposing beliefs does not automatically mean compromising on foundational doctrine. In fact, it can strengthen by fostering an environment of rigorous intellectual debate. (Because I believe that my faith can stand up to any secular argument) Becoming an echo chamber, whether in a Catholic university or any other institution, is a net negative because it stifles intellectual growth, limits the exploration of new ideas, and can lead to a narrow-minded approach to complex issues. Embracing diversity of thought, can act to uphold foundational beliefs while also fostering a robust academic environment that benefits all.