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I met Joe Pass at the blue note in nyc . I told him I had his book and found it difficult. [ I actually did not understand it at all ] he told me “ yea it’s real hard kid real hard “ after the show my friends and I were hanging out outside the club. when he came out we asked him if he wouldn’t mind taking a picture with us . He accepted and said “ let me hold my guitar case. “ Without it you won’t know who the F I am “ His playing is timeless .

Joe said that when evaluating a new student he would ask them to play eighth note lines for 3 minutes and that excercise would tell him all he needed to know about what level they were at

Hi, Jens! I agree with you 100%. This book is amazing! I got it first when I was a young kid living in the USSR. It was 20th generation faded copy on yellowish thin almost toilet paper. The same like you say, I liked the most the second part of this book with solo examples. What a great source of the fantastic phrases related to the chords! Later I was able to get a real book and I still have it and value it like a treasure. Because I have this book signed by Joe Pass himself for me! When I immigrated to the US the very first concert I attended in New York was concert of Joe Pass(solo) and Jim Hall with Ron Carter(duo) :)) What a set! The concert was in legendary Blue Note club. So, after the show I had a chance to talk to Joe Pass, even played his signature Ibanez guitar. By the way, the string were very light and the action was very low. When Joe was signing the book for me Jim Hall entered Joe's room, eating an apple. Joe had an amazing sense of humor. He turned to Jim and said: "See Jim, if you had written a book, people would come to you, too.. " I have amazing picture of me staying between Joe and Jim, who was trying to hide an apple he was eating. I had a chance to see Joe two more times before he passed away at the same Blue Note. I was sitting in first row next to him. He took a few peaces of french fries from my plate and then played my request Wave by A.C. Jobim. What a memories!

I learned the 1st blues solo and without tab I found myself learning to play the phrases in more than one part of the fretboard which was in itself a good exercise.

I’m a classical violinist learning jazz. There’s a lot more material out there for guitar than violin, but most of it translates very well to my instrument. This is definitely one of the best channels. Thanks, Jens! I bought this book recently. The absence of tabs is obviously not a problem for me, and I have the technique to play the notes without much problem. However, I’m not used to swinging eighth notes notes, and phrasing these solos is different for me. In other words, the mechanics are easy, but turning this into music is difficult. I wasn’t sure how to take full advantage of this book, nor was I even sure if I should use it at all, so this video is a great help. As for unvarying rhythm (“motor rhythms” in classical terminology), look to the Sonatas & Partitas for Solo Violin by J.S. Bach. Many of them are in motor rhythms, but bury some very tricky “hidden rhythms” similar to what we see here.

I'm not a jazz guitarist by any stretch of the imagination but I really appreciate your videos and I appreciate real jazz guitar players and their prowess for improviseing over complex changes... Thanks for the lessons

I was looking for a new amp yesterday... But instead I purchased the Joe Pass book... You saved me about 540 bucks... and I'm playing better already... Thanks...

I’ve really benefited from this post. I studied a couple of the solos in this book years ago as my teacher at the time used the book. But having revisited the book I have been knocked out by the beautiful lines that build from bar to bar. Thank you. Really helpful

Joe Pass is a legend. Absolute inspiration to listen to and something to aspire to.

Your explanation of the “layer of syncopation” in the exercises was gold, thanks!

I have the Joe Pass book and love it. I love that Joe Pass had a Danish accent, even though he was very much an Italian-American! Too funny. 🤣

As someone who started learning guitar AFTER learning some other instruments first when I was younger, I can say that taking the time to learn standard music notation is well worth it. I understand why tabs are appealing but there's a lot of information that they don't really convey as well.

I read that Joe Pass recommended playing through a chord progression using just eighth notes and it helped my playing a lot ; it really gets you to find a next note that will be logical and to get to some 'good ' notes in the strong beats . Your playing goes from licks on individual chords to starting to be able to recognize the chords in your lines. I saw a video of Pass playing these types of lines and a commenter had written , " yo dude , while I couldn't play as well as you are playing , take a breath once in a while - listen to some saxophone players and notice how they take a pause in their phrases," the next comment was , "hey , dude , that's Joe Pass "

No Tabs? This is nothing but a plus, I’m going to have to find this book.

This book is one of the best there is. I still have my students play at least one blues and one rhythm changes solo. So good.

I love how organized you explain your approach to the book Jens. Thanks for making such well thought out videos!

8:21 Phrasing. If you take Jens' "Jazz Guitar Roadmap" course all the way through this section of the video will make a lot sense to you. I highly recommend that course.

In addition to the fun musical material these videos are a masterwork of great graphics which illustrate the points and most of all, provide wonderful humor! The maker is an artist with more than just music!

After watching your video, I bought the "Joe Pass Guitar Style" book. It has been a great help with my reading music getting the notes under my fingers. I really enjoy your music both instructions and performances. Thank you Frank

I got this book last y3ar when I watched this video. I recommend it. It helped a lot

Hi there, you had me laughing at "I often wonder who they're listening to" and show Star Wars band playing clarinets lol!! I wanted to say that I've studied the Joe Pass book pgs. 45-46 for Rhythm Changes and memorized it. It helped so much and plan to memorize pgs. 47-49 if I can. Rythm Changes have always been a challenge for me and hope to master them once and for all!

Two of my heroes in one video: Joe and Jens = life is beautiful.

I don't always comment on videos, but i've got to say this: THANK YOU A LOT! You, sir, are helping me in so many ways with my playing and my vision about music you can't even imagine. Can't thank enough for this. Very inspiring playing and teaching that make me believe i still can play nerly good as this.

The Cantina Band and Joe Pass’s secret Danish heritage, great video!! I do have the Joe Pass chord book which I found underwhelming, but now I’m intrigued about this book, thanks!

I don't read on guitar very fast, but have found it helps my playing and fingerboard knowledge immensely. It's probably one of the least painful and majorly helpful exercises. I didn't study with the Joe Pass book, but do have both of your Jazz Concepts books, and one by Mike Stern (who does use strings of eighth notes, interestingly enough!). They're all great books with a really good method of teaching the material. Can't recommend them enough :)

I got this book 30 years ago and after spending about a minute with it, put it on the shelf with so many others and hadn't really looked at it again until seeing your video. Now I appreciate it a whole lot more and intend to work through it over the next few months. Thanks for the nudge.

Wonderful analysis of a great instruction book. This was one of the first books I studied from and it has material that can be worked on for a lifetime. Thanks for giving it its due and laying out the importance of the studies. Loved the thumbnail. It cracks me up!!

I got this book-I think on your recommendation. It’s deep! And don’t forget about the CD where you actually hear Joe playing all the solos himself! I use the first rhythm changes solo as a great warmup for my fingers when I first pick up the guitar for the day.

I had this book for many years but never worked on it seriously. I will definitely take your advice and work on the building blocks first rather than just trying to digest those long lines... have you ever checked "cellular approach" by Randy Vincent? It's based on the concept of building blocks and it has helped me a lot on trying to make some sense (as opposed to just play scales over progressions in 8th note as I was told to at first hahah)

I believe Joe Pass used his own "Barry Harris" method based on things he said on videos and interviews. I love Joe's playing and Virtuoso is beautiful. The Barry Harris method has opened my eyes and is much easier to digest than the Modal / Chord scale things I've studied. I know you kind of dismissed the Harris method buy I love it. Take Care.

THIS IS ONE OF THE BEST 'MUSIC AS IT IS REALISED ON THE GUITAR (NOT JUST PLAYING THE GUITAR)' VIDEOS I HAVE EVER SEEN ! Thank you Jens ! I feel like I'm Indiana Jones and I've discovered the Ark Of The Covenant. I'm so happy ! 😁

I've had two copies of this book, one in the original printing. I worked on the blues exercises beginning on page 40 pretty carefully. But, to be honest I didn't view the phrases as building blocks to the exercise, but rather, a phrase to be memorized. I'm revisiting the book after hearing your discussion. I may actually learn something this time. Thanks for posting this.

At 4:44 this brought to mind that Mimi Fox has a great book on using arpeggios in Jazz context and so I would wonder also who doesn't dig the arpeggio scene? I bought this book on sale at a music store years ago and it is still challenging, and I'm a decent music reader. Joe Pass was a great player and I had the good fortune to see him live in small venues, but this book is formidable. I can only guess he didn't have time or use for pedagogy. Even in his instructional videos he barely explains his methodology. A good teacher is just as important as a good player. If a guitar student can find someone who can translate and transmit complex information, it makes the journey so much more rewarding in every way. And so Mr. Larsen, keep playing and just as importantly, keep teaching.

I learnt that little bless in C solo years ago when studying at the Guitar Institute. Always wondered what the book was, so have just bought it. Thank you!

Jens, I like what you have to say about eighth notes. I'm old and I adore JP. The real benefit for me of studying in eighths has been the that ON beat and OFF beat notes play different roles in a passage with the ONE beat being the most dominant. Therefore when a guitar note study is all mixed up with shorter and longer notes, one really must concentrate mentally about what's going on, and feeling takes a back seat for too long. But once you're feeling the groove of a passage in eighths, mixing up the note duration is much easier as you strive to adjust tonality per beat type. Thanks for identifying the playful be-bob beats. That helps a lot.

I love Joe Pass and got this book when I started learning jazz. I couldn't understand it at all and it really put me off. You describe it and its difficulties really well, but I don't think I'll be going back to it.

I bought this book years ago, but just recently digging into it. Great study of target notes & voice leading. Similar great material from Barry Galbraith & earlier book from Sam Most , " Jazz Improvisation. The Joe Pass stuff might be written in eighth notes, but you can mix it up the rhythms & make it your own. Great stuff from a Master.

I’ve always shied away from this book because I never understood how to use it! Now you have me a bunch of reasons to try again!

This is the BEST jazz guitar book I have ever used -----bought it 20 years ago.

Jens- I can't thank you enough for this video. I am slowly working my way through this book, and Joe's chord book, and am encountering many of the pros and cons that you mentioned (I am learning to read through my study of Guitar Method). I have found it especially difficult to figure out chord voicings for his chord charts. Lots of trial and error. As always, thank you for your timely and informative lesson. I am continually trying to integrate anything new I learn into my actual playing because of your (and my teacher's) encouragement. I hope you are well. Sincerely, Brad

I always pushed reading ahead of me, “do it later”. Until I just bit the bullet two weeks ago (indeed for this book 😂) and learned it with an app in a few days time. I can now read solos. Not any chords yet, as that’s a lot more involved it seems. But reading melody is actually pretty simple as long as you keep the current root and scale in mind.

Great lesson, Jens! The ‘building blocks’ concept as it pertains to these solos makes me look quite differently at this book.

I had one of his books, it was basic stuff leading into stuff that I never mastered because it gets really advanced. I was into Metallica the book helped get me started.

Yup. Also, Barney Kessell had a good book as well. George Benson also had a great book that taught and gave a profound lesson on where certain melodic ideas come from and which generation of jazz. THAT BOOK should see a re-release.

I have found your bebop videos quite helpful in order to find practical things to work on and gain some insight into the construction of bebop lines. I'm an upright bass player who also plays guitar. Much harder to execute anything on the upright compared to guitar but I'm working on it every day. For people like me who are amateur players I think teachers frequently overlook how much time is needed to simply being able to execute a steady 8th note stream of arpeggios in time, at all positions on the fretboard, even at a slow speed. So this material requires quite a bit of dedication. As an academic exercise I like the steady stream of eighth notes concept. As you said phrasing can be created by placing accents appropriately and if you can run continuous 8th notes I'm pretty sure that learning to leave space in your phrases will be easier to learn.

Thank you for this video . Im not a jazz guitarist, but I'm always keen to learn more because i love music ! Joe Pass got me much more interested in jazz . At first, I only enjoyed jazz fusion, but Joe Pass and Johnny Smith got me really excited for jazz

Great advice about a phenomenal book. I bought it when it first came out and have been studying it ever since. I don't class myself as a jazz guitarist, but more of a rock/fusion guitarist. It is still at the top of the list of the many guitar instruction books of many styles that I have studied over the years. Thank you for your wonderful appraisal of the book.

I have an old copy of that book. The rhythm changes and Blues sections are worth working through for all the reasons stated by Jens. I believe there is a few audio videos on yt of Joe P playing through some of the examples.

HI Jens I want to thank you again for this video. I started using the book after watching it, trying to get building blocks and practicing them on standards, as you suggest.... wow, I find it a huge source of vocabulary! Cheers

Hi Jens. I took your advice and have been working on the solos in the Joe Pass book that you recommended. I’ve learnt 4 complete solos so far and I’ve found them to be extremely helpful from a number of perspectives. The solos provide quality melodic ideas both overall and against individual chords. I’ve also found that they have improved my playing and technique. I treat each solo like a jazz Etude and gradually learn to play it without the music and at quicker tempos. I’ve also been trying to reapply chord specific ideas into my other solos or to give me ideas on what I could do elsewhere.

There was a moment when this was the “only” book. Your comments regarding lack of tablature are funny to us old folks. This morning I was looking for the notation for one of these dense Sinti melodies we all love and for a moment all I could find was TAB. I suppose people become familiar enough with TAB to sight read it, not me, but when I found a pdf of the actual notation I was immediately able to play the piece. So my advise to you non readers is , learn how to read. Music isn’t as much of a “trade” as it once was, but reading will allow you to work. You know, that thing you do to get paid😂

Joe looks equally badass with halo and horns. Thanks for video Jens - I always found Joe's book dense - it took me days to get through one page. So I never made it to the Solos section.

+1 for Douglas Adams reference

thanks for the rec be safe, be happy, work hard peace \m/

funny story. when i was 18 and auditioning for school, i transcribed night and day off jp's virtuoso album. note for note by ear. it probably wasn't exactly the way he played it but my own interpretation. all the peoples face dropped at each audition and i was accepted into every school lol, i also played bouree by bach along with it. and i think something from joe diorio

Superb video Jens. I bought that book a few months ago. I haven't gone through the exercises you mention so far, but I've learnt some great ideas from the early chords and harmony chapters. I like the way he says any chord type can act as a tritone sub for any other chord type. I've had some success superimposing and F#maj7 line over a Cmin7 for example.

This is really interesting to get your perspective on improvisation and what's going on in the process. Thanks!

This Joe Pass method is an excellent book: and the comments in this video explain why. All of those continuous 1/8 note lines can be broken down into smaller usable idioms and reworked into your own vocabulary. It’s the same process for learning a language, words (scales) first then phrases (idioms)

At 4:22 you played the G# with your 2nd finger, then the A with the fourth, which was cool because you could then hit the F with the third finger cleanly without changing position. I was glad I slowed it down to check how you were fingering it! Where did you learn that trick? Do you have videos that focus on fingering like this? Book recommendations? I find there's a lack of info sometimes on best practices on fingerings (especially in the Joe Pass! haha)

1. Great video! 2. I have this book, I need to dig it out. 3. I know how to read, don't need tabs. 4. Nice cameos by Grant Green, SRV and the Star Wars Cantina Band!

You get strong lines and rythm avoiding cromaticism It's something I've just realized

Love these Joe Pass books, I'm going to dig up my old copies. Thanks Jens, great info and you rule! Keep doing what your doing, thanks bro...

I love the idea of no tabs. I've been looking for old(er) books to force myself to learn to read more fluidly. If there are tabs, it's hard for me to defer to the "harder" form of notation. I've been using the Sal Salvador method and scale system for that at the moment. Super excited to pick up the Joe Pass book(s)

Thank you. You and 3 other youtubers are my guitar Sensei ' Thank you your methods on arpeggios have helped me greatly. Salute!

I have some Joe Pass books like the one you were holding in this video - cool :-) your explanation makes me want to check out on it again

I feel like I finally understand what you’re saying in your videos 😆 slowly getting better

There’s a Joe Pass hot licks that not on RU-vid anymore that’s the best jazz video I’ve ever seen. It’s not the blues one. I used to watch it every day.

I think this book was mostly Bill Thrasher's work as the solos are not indicative of Pass 's approach..... They collaborated on the project If you listen to the audio that is available on CD Pass plays it as written and it sounds nothing like his soloing. It was apparently a massive manuscript and was condensed to the volume it is since it was published .. As a side note. The great bassist /guitarist Carol Kaye recorded the last four pages .... Carol Kaye owned Gwyn publishing the original publishers. If I recall and the earnings from this another publications secured the funds for Joe and his family to purchase their home. As she told me in written correspondence with her some years ago. I could not find any thing on Bill Thrasher on the net

Great video Jens, thanks a lot. I really needed some good material to work on phrasing, and the explanation you give on how to use the book is priceless. Cheers

Funny because I just finally started trying to learn how to read music due to a different Joe Pass lesson which isn't in tab. It is not going well, its going to dramatically slow down my learning. It takes me days as it is to learn these complex short passages even when there is tab.

Wasn't aware of this book! I love Joe pass and really feel like I've hit a brick wall with my playing so I'll have to get this!

I bought this book when I was just starting to learn a little about jazz guitar, and found it completely useless. It is not good at all for a beginner without any guidance. The book says very little about how to use the book or how to practice. It has become more valuable as I've improved. The suggestions in this video for using the book are fantastic. Thanks!

I'd love to know more about materials to study from, I've never heard of this book and it seems like an incredible thing to have

Great Jens. Well spoken! A book you might like is Hal Galper´s " Forward Motion"

I've never used tabs much, and never will. We need to get back to reading music and interpretation!!

Had this book and lost it in a fire. Could not remember the title to buy again. Not a lot of great explanation but, got a lot from it by re reading over and over.

Hey Jens, This is a great video! And the info is very practical and useful. Wishing you well. Jasper van Dongen

Man, I tried to lean how to play jazz by using a Joe Pass solo book and a chord Encyclopedia. I wish someone would have given me lead sheets and explained how to make chords from the parent scales (1357 etc). It’s probably be useful now but not as a beginner. Helped my reading though.

I’ve had this book since I was a teenager. I think it was over my head at the time. I could understand the theory actually but wasn’t at the level of applying it. Now 30 years later I still love to crack it open and look at some of those lines. Yes you may need some more experience to get the most out of it…but it’s a great resource to have.

Howard Roberts also recommended practicing 8th notes over chord changes.

Another great lesson. For some reason I never bought the Joe Pass book (I have billions - oups sorry that's Carl Sagan - dozens of other books). I think I'm going to order it :) The argument against practicing licks and solo examples is silly. Playing patterns that sound great is fun and a great motivation. Learning licks helps to strengthen the connection between your finger and your brain. Eventually you forget the specific licks and the melodies in your brain start to come out much more easily at your fingertips. That's what I did in the beginning with pentatonic scales and that I am still trying to achieve with other scales and arpeggios. Practicing good licks certainly helps. Thanks again.

Thanks Jens!! Will be looking for a copy.

I bought this book in the mid 1970’s (by now I can’t be more specific than that 😅). It’s probably the only book I ever made it through or almost through from cover to cover. I use many of the harmonic concepts especially turnarounds still. Having watched this video I think I’ll get the book off the shelf and revisit the second half. I agree that practicing playing 1/8 notes is good practice for developing your ear and your fingers to be able to play longer, more flowing lines. I heard Julian Lage recommend a ten minute exercise each practice session - set the metronome and play 1/8 notes for ten minutes. It’s hard to do but over time trains your ear and fingers to recognize intervals and sequences that sound good to you.

The studies at the back of the book are great

Surprised they haven't updated this with tab like a many older books

I used this book decades ago and still use it for reading study. It is a small but dense volume. If you can't read, too bad, so sad. Joe (and Bill Thrasher by extension) are correct in their consideration of the pedagogical merit of the material. It must be remembered this book was paired down from hundreds of pages! Guitarists need to explore the harmony within these lines, the inside and outside aspects of various tones and which beats they fall upon, and explore dynamics such as accented pick or apoyando fingerstyle attacks, muting, or even actuating the string at various distances from the bridge as a classical guitarist might. All of Joe's teaching and transcription material (Alan de Mause and Roland Leone etc) is a goldmine of ideas. We all borrow. Even purposefully not referencing mainstays of a language is thusly informed by it, deliberately so 😉 I love the background humour here too ☺️

Thank you Jens. I enjoy and learn a lot from you.

I have a Wolf Marshall book of Pat Martino transcriptions. Pat uses long strings of eighth notes quite often. My biggest problem is getting that swing feel in my playing. I was listening to Joe Pass’ playing Rosetta, which I have a transcription of also, and I just can’t get the swing feel that Joe has in his playing. It’s so relaxed and flowing but really eludes me when I try.

I had this book back in the '80's, and never understood it. I've picked it up again after 30 plus years (and more music education) because of your video. Thanks for clearing things up about this book. I learned something from my drum teacher, "The best books for learning(teaching) have more music than words". Joe's book is one of them. Thanks again!

I've had this Joe Pass book for years, and the solos were uninspiring. . Now maybe I will try playing them.

Great book..and video

But what about simply breaking up the 8th note streams with phrasing?

Lets not forget Bill Thrasher - he had a lot to do with this book too Great Book!

Great lesson Jens thank you for sharing your knowledge

Hi Jens. I would very much appreciate a post on how to structure my learning journey. I learnt from a great jazz guitarist for 11 years. He has since passed and for the last 6 years my learning has been very piecemeal. I see a post and focus on that but I feel I lack a structured way forward. I put together bits from you, TrueFire, some Berklee. I gig fairly regularly so I have to constantly learn new material from the perspective of melody, rhythm and soloing ideas and content. Often I spend weeks learning the new material and doing really nothing else. Any suggestions?

Just bought it 😎

Guitarists, drop tab and learn to read! Joe Pass’ book originally came out with a red cover on Gwyn Publishing, owned by the legendary L.A. session bass player, Carol Kaye. When she encountered a then-young sax player named Tom Scott, he wanted to improve his bebop so she recommended Joe’s book. (Yes, I know that horn players transpose.) Tom Scott didn’t have “saxophone tab.” He was a real musician and he could read. You should all do the same. Among other benefits, it’ the only way to explore fingering alternatives all over the fingerboard.

It's an excellent book. I also recommend the Barry Galbraith books. Concepts in logical fingerings I think was the title and he had a great chord book as well. All are great learning and study guides. There are also some other good books ,saxophonist Bob Cooper had a great book in the same vein and I remember a Joe Diorio book I used to when learning these bebop styles;he also had a modern style using 4ths in the same book. You must learn to read in all of them and you learn to develop your own preferences for fingering which is invaluable and aids your knowledge in learning the fingerboard like no other method can. You become your own teacher with these books ie. learning the right way for you as a player.

this book has been on my amazon wishlist for years, im gonna order it now