Is This Just A Gravel Bike? - Scott Scale RC

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@AndrewOliverHome Год назад

I love light weight XC bikes. If I had to reduce my bike collection (from 11) to one, it would be an XC race bike.

@dev1ce888 Год назад

For real a lightweight XC bike can do everything from long road marathons to moderate to extreme trails depends on how skilled you are.

@mikicastan Год назад

On the other hand,it cant do nothing properly. It's slower on road and gravel and slower then fully on trail.

@ByronWWW Год назад

Yep, same - my hard tail XC bike is my favourite Vs my full sus xc (too $$$ to ride through British winter) and road bike (useless for anything except smooth roads)

@ianstuart5689 Год назад

@@mikicastan But is really fast in an XC race, which is what they are usually built for ;)

@joren7653 Год назад

@@mikicastan But its the most fun :D

@tonyjmcd Год назад

Love Jimmy's disclaimer for the sponsored videos

@PassOnPassion Год назад

I have a Scott Scale RC, roughly 20-21lb. I love it. Where I'm from there are trails and paved roads, so a gravel bike doesn't make sense here. The Scale obviously isn't as fast as a road/gravel bike on paved roads, but it can hold it's own and is a blast on the dirt.

@laurentlandry9732 Год назад

I built myself a flat bar gravel bike this year because had to much tension in my back with a drop bar. I am loving the new position, the control and the looks. Very happy with my decision. Gravel was much better with a flat bar in my opinion.

@ron2834 Год назад

which bike you buy? for flat gar gravel

@ixismg Год назад

I’m really liking the versatility of this setup. I recently picked up a Marin DSX FS and it’s increasingly brilliant as the miles stack up, on and off road.

@camlunt120 Год назад

Francis just want to say thank you for getting me into road cycling, since coming across your videos a few years ago I’ve loved this sport ever since so thank you for that. Keep up the good work love the videos

@josh33172 Год назад

When I do gravel events here in Belgium, they're almost always in the Ardennes, and the best gravel bike is a HT MTB as it typically gets far more saucy for your 40c or even 50c tires. My bike is an Ibis T29 with some custom Duke/DT Swiss wheels XO1 and Rockshox SID Ultimate, but 120 because I still ride singletrack. I do have a lockout instead of a dropper. The party trick for the T29 is that it can be single speed or geared, but also the rear triangle fully unbolts from the front triangle and fits into a Ritchey Break-away/S&S travel case. Works great if you do a tour somewhere else that you use the fast rail like Eurorail to get where you want to go. In my opinion...and I know the channel is sponsored by Hutchinson, but the Vittoria Mezcals are fantastic fast MTB tires for gravel, but still have great grip for XC. There is of course lighter options from Schawlbe....I think one model is something like 450g and wicked fast, but not the most reliable. The Mezcals won the Tour Divide w/o so much as a puncture! I know this is just a test, but if you run bar-ends inboard, you can get a psudo-hoods position which works great for long gravely sections and very little weight.

@globeRM Год назад

I've always enjoyed your content... but lately they've gotten even better!

@paullinnitt5450 Год назад

No. Gravel bikes are just hardtail Mountain bikes with less suitable handlebars.

@petertreadway Год назад

I've literally just today finished converting a flat bar hybrid to a drop bar gravel and it's weighing in at 12.6kgs! Im going to swap the ally fork out for a carbon one, which will bring the weight down a little but she's still a hefty girl! Looking forward to getting out on her. Can't wait to see that next part of this test though.

@davecech4741 Год назад

My hardtail IS my gravel bike, and yes, it has a dropper. With 2.3 tires, it is definitely at a disadvantage on tarmac, but I'll take that trade off to enjoy the singletracks more.

@marco916 Год назад

Absolute nice looking bike! Do you going with the MTB for a fitting session as well? I'm so interested what James can tell us about MTB & Bike Fitting

@redauwg911 Год назад

thank you for the video Francis great to see Jimmy working hard

@malcontent510 Год назад

Haha he's a piece of work alright. Gotta love his innate troublemaking disposition. The videos are definitely better a scosche of Jimmi.

@FarzGFX Год назад

Put drop bars on it! Give the fans what they want!!! ❤

@Bu5t3R Год назад

Love it. I’m pretty sure there is a man who races XC and Gravel that uses one bike for both and just swaps cockpit, fork and other bits. Used wireless so it’s mostly straightforward.

@roberttindall1203 Год назад

Looking forward to the next video in this series, I wrestled with this debate recently and went for a Specialized Epic HT to give clear water bewteen my Tarmac, fingers crossed I made the right decision 😃

@jayb.6685 Год назад

I love light weight xc hardtails. But soon people might be calling them flat bar gravel bikes.

@erlendsteren9466 Год назад

My first mountainbike that was a good gravelbike was a soft-tail 1998 Rocky Mountain Element Race frame with all other parts from a good Merida . Triple chain ring in front swopped to 28-38-48. The bar is narrow and very low. Which meant that i often stretch my fingers to get extra 5cm longer arms.

@JoeCincotta307 Год назад

Sweet build !

@destinationbikeatboxhillin8255 Год назад

Lightweight hardtail for the win! You probably know that Wilier now do the Usma SLR - a hardtail version of the Urta you had. Also incredibly light and responsive at 8.5kg , we have one as a demo bike. Happy to arrange a comparison video if you're ever near us at Box Hill!

@jamesdoughty7914 Год назад

Excellent and informative as always, hope you’re doing okay with everything Francis!

@filipe.portes Год назад

Nice looking bike!! And there is no a single bit o doubt that this beauty will crush any gravel bike

@treeof611 Год назад

Scott gang! welcome to the club! The Scale* is such a good XC race bike.

@Bread_Garlichouse 2 месяца назад

Nothing better than a solid, lightweight XC hardtail. Got my cannondale fsi down to 7.5kg. Very versatile. No need for all the dropper post and all that weight adding bullshit.

@darrelduke Год назад

hardtail.. its a beauty, good job nick!

@markday1714 Год назад

great content ,thanks

@timothydog76 Год назад

Really starting to get that sound dampening treatment up in the new space! I can already hear the difference. Way less echoey. Cheers!

@aldenroswell8504 Год назад

Funny to see the roadbiker perspective on mtb. Great video!

@Mr229357 Год назад

Finally a proper bike, love hard tails. Nice bike 😊👍🏻👍🏻

@2jcgtevvti459 Год назад

That HT is fire!

@theonemanopinion2764 Год назад

I have a very similar frame for my hardtail. But I fitted ridged carbon mtb forks to mine! enough clearance to fit any tyre, but stupidly light! Entire bike is a snip over 8kg! could drop another 500-750g with a carbon wheel set and a more top end groupset. I’ll make it a drop bar bike one day!

@extrme5 Год назад

Second the earlier comment about MTB fitting. There isn’t anywhere near as much out there on the internet! I’ve found it to be a MUCH more adjust and test process to get it dialled in than a gravel/road which seems fairly prescriptive when you go to have a fit.

@noelespigarestapia7953 Год назад

8.52? Every mountain biker went crazy 😮

@fotografamos4083 Год назад

Loving the Wild aprons.

@markanderson7412 Год назад

Keep them coming lads great content, New comparison hard tail + drop bars 42/44 ring up front V’s gravel bike 🤔

@vialactea5549 Год назад

The image and content change you did with your channer has been fantastic, not to say I did not enjoy the content before. But shift has been masterfuly done!

@buildingreno Год назад

Beauty Bike!

@gavinequinn Год назад

Mystery bike from the previous switch kit video revealed. I can now sleep at night 😂 Nice work lads.

@neilt Год назад

Knobs on the tyres - chortle!

@mudclub811 Год назад

Ayeeeeee! We love the Scott Scale! Hardtail>Gravel.

@oldkayakdude Год назад

As someone that started riding mt bikes in the 80s... gravel bikes are basically the same as mt bikes from decades ago. Also, ya made me chuckle with your 120mm super slack downhill machine. I suggest Francis plan a trip to Whistler for a collaboration with Remy mid summer to take a walk on the other side ;) Also looks like you didn't hook up the remote lockout on the fork?

@JakeMartin-qi1by Год назад

Mixing SRAM and Shimano. Mate. I had those SRAM s80 wheels with a SRAM red cassette....with super record.....

@sepg5084 Год назад

Gravel bikes can have bigger chainrings for higher speeds, most modern MTBs are limited to 34-38t

@chadwells7562 5 месяцев назад

34t isn’t enough for road riding, but 36-38 definitely are given modern 12 speed 10-51 and even 9-50 cassettes

@djiembefolaDan Год назад

I have both titanium hardtail XC and Ti gravel, it's a tossup but I prefer the XC bike when descending. The gravel bike feels more versatile just the same,.

@lechprotean Год назад

For anything under 100kms / 60 miles MTB is the way to go, but for longer rides drop bars give you more options to rest hands. Also for bikepacking or if you're mostly on paved or gravel roads then gravel is the way to go. Personally I've gone gravel + full-sus MTB as a hardtail XC MTB is indeed a pretty close category to gravel.

@chadwells7562 5 месяцев назад

There are actually a bunch of alt bars you can use on a MTB to get additional and more aero hand positions. They look to be better solutions than drop bars in terms of versatility

@iceicebaby6980 Год назад

Scott hardtail is not your daddy's mountain bike!!! Next level lightness

@Tbo1235 Год назад

The new set has taken Cade media to the moon . Truly amazing community you are all building. Cade group rides this summer in Manchester?

@jonpoon3896 Год назад

I’m jealous of those Wild aprons

@IlkkaHarmanen Год назад

Francis says in the end that there's a hardtail vs mountain bike video coming soon... I hope the hardtail vs. Gravelbike comes out first though!

@mrwhiteshorts Год назад

I hope its the XC bike! Ive spent the last 3 1/2 years getting a Merida Big 7 down to 8.9kgs. Id be rather vexed if it turns out a £4k gravel bike is the way to go.

@grahambell9831 Год назад

Slidey bike build Thursday! 😅

@MxCraven Год назад

If Hutchinson release a 26" Tourec then that's a banging dirt jump trail tyre 👀

@malcontent510 Год назад

Very cool & light new bike. Very shady _sous_ mechanic.

@jonburnell532 Год назад

I love my hardtail. I don't think I'll ever go full sus, a hardtail is plenty fun enough for my speed, skill level and usage.

@lifeincycling Год назад

Your show really needs a wacky waving inflatable arm-flailing tubeman (jimmi's halloween costume for this year?)

@cb6866 Год назад

Thanks Francis and Jimmi and Nic ....I think the fastest bike will be this one ...but I am OAF and played a contact sport , before helmets were required . Can you say CTE ?

@alexkerslake4613 Год назад

spark every day

@pab2611 Год назад

In theory Sram and Shimano 12 speed mtb cassettes work together but the spacing in the cogs is slightly different so the shifting may not be optimal

@robbchastain3036 Год назад

That does look like a great gravel bike, just get either rigid forks or something with 30mm or so of travel, plus narrower tires. That'd be my preference, anyway.

@vaughanc4919 Год назад

Without doubt the hardtail will perform better on the trails, where the gravel bike will claw back a little will be on the road and forestry roads

@Skatted Год назад

Hardtail ❤

@robertdmarchand1929 Год назад

1:05 is Jimmi drinking neat Ribena? #savage

@10ktube Год назад

This may have inspired me to go fire up my full rigid SS 29er and hit the dirt, I just realized I missed it.

@charliecook6909 Год назад

Super nice bike love a xc hardtail , the chain ring is tasty 😋 what brand it it?

@eleventybillion2301 Год назад

Did I see Jimmy drinking Ribena neat at like 1:00? Absolute animal

@MargeSimpson-ei3nn Год назад

Convict hair cut noted!

@kesb1312 Год назад

Dont forget the fork lockout

@beermonster1234 Год назад

Looking forward to that comparison because I’m genuinely unsure what to get between hardtail and gravel bike. I only have road bikes and am dying to off road Edit: ah just reached the end and realised it’s hardtail vs mtb. Please include gravel bike into the mix at some point!

@CarlBishop Год назад

I think that was a slip of the tongue at the end, gravel vs lightweight hardtail makes way more sense!

@SamRoystonPhoto Год назад

Really confusing to hear the question framed as 'is it just a gravel bike?' rather than 'Are gravel bikes just XC bikes?' given than XC has been around forever and gravel was invented by a marketing department a couple of years ago

@TommySaucierPlourde0 Год назад

There is no better bike, just a more specialized bike design for each task. Love the bike, love the new studio, love the team you have built up. Love WILD!

@mireia3208 Год назад

Now add the Zniino 'H-bar' (aka carbon surly-corner-inspired bar) to build the ultimate monstrosity :D

@arekbike5064 Год назад

It's a weeding ring now we are mareed i died😂

@milanb.6022 Год назад

Jimmi is a souf chef and he made a soup in your tire

@kevinlyon9501 Год назад

Interesting comparison though depends on type of trail and skill of the rider. Expect not much difference between the two unless it gets really lumpy. Just get Tony to pick a trail at Hamsterly and time him on each bike, I'm sure he'd be up for that or just bribe him with pork pie or date slice😂

@sgtjohnsen Год назад

Don’t be a fan of Mtb, but that’s a nice one 🔥🔥

@ivanleyong4025 10 месяцев назад

felicidades 🎉 Como me gustaría tener esa oportunidad. yo recorro caminos en Colombia con una bicicleta de 20 kg 😢

@thebikepackingadventurer Год назад

Depends on the type of the trail I guess, but I wouldn’t fancy hurtling down a rocky red run on a gravel bike, whereas a flat bar hard tail should be okay. Both awesome bikes though

@MikP86 8 месяцев назад

What type of tyres are on this bike? I love them. Great bike.

@martinpettersson5797 Год назад

You wanna sponsor me with a Scott scale RC? I have 8 liter lungcapacity. I run marathon at 12 years old. Love this movie. And THE bike:)

@htonmusic Год назад

scott's online youtube marketing is tasteful and isn't too in your face. admittedly i was swayed by safa into the genius and the spark, but really, owning them has been a joy. it also doesn't hurt that nino schurter's in on it too!

@chrisshea4582 Год назад

I think a better question is - 'are gravel bikes just XC bikes with drop bars and fancy marketing?'

@letriciabrowder2942 Год назад

Buying the roscoe 6 for 900. Wish I could have gone lower but well, didn't have to spend 1300

@lesliewoodmobile Год назад

Jimmy is now know as ONEJOB JIMMY 😂

@BLAKEISHart Год назад

Need advice for foam to help the echo?

@molokofreak Год назад

you should put the same tyres on both, xc anr gravel.

@Robc1987 Год назад

Is Jimmy doing undiluted Ribena at 1:07? Madman.

@Caleketa Год назад

I think the mtb will do a better job. Purchased last year Topstone 0 gravelbike. For me personally +90kg and 195cm tall i think a mtb would be the better choise. Max tire width for toptone about 40mm.

@ByronWWW Год назад

Don't you lock out your fork riding on road? I have a 2013 Scale 710 HMX and thought it was pretty light for a MTB at around 10kg, the new ones look awesome.

@kobeheremans6931 Год назад

Nice bike but i dont see a lockout lever for the forks ? Forgot something ?

@1969mtb Год назад

Hey mate! what happened with the project/idea to run the cape epic?

@Aeroskiii Год назад

It's pretty damn heavy

@rivel8819 Год назад

Where you bought the frame?

@kpizzle1985 Год назад

For a fair comparison you need to ride both bikes from home to the trails

@christiandonaj8257 Год назад

XC Hardtails are the better gravelbikes in my opinion

@Risayogi Год назад

I heard Safa Brian said on your other video about choosing gravel bike over MTB. All my gravel grinder friends have the same reason, especially when you have to ride MTB in the tarmac portion of your route. The main reason is the gearing of MTB is not big enough and you can run out of gear real fast in flat or descending tarmac. So, why not put gravel groupset into MTB?

@ByronWWW Год назад

My scale has a 36 chain ring and a Shimano 11 speed cassette with 27.5 x 2.25 tyres - it does about 40kmh with this setup on the smallest sprocket (not that I can hold that speed for very long with MTB tyres and position). Not sure how 29er wheels change things though?

@MichaelRyanCaputo Год назад

What about comparing a xc bike (with a dropper) to a gravel bike with a dropper?

@gajokanovic9067 Год назад

You must match the tires on the comparison video as well. Gravel on relatively smooth 35mm tires and on big knobbly 50mm is completely different, and the comparison to cross country would be a bit pointless, because a lot of the difference would be in the tires. At least part of the video 🙏

@Theoriginalchocho Год назад

Hope the MTB wins let Tony ride it.

@Roger101Watson Год назад

I'm suspicious of that weight because Scott own top of the range £13,999 Scale RC weighs in at 8.9kg and that's got some crazy all-in-one carbon wheels. OK, it's got 2.4 tyres.

@Cade_Media Год назад

It’s definitely the tyres - we also didn’t install fork lockout which would add a bit.