IS THIS THE FUTURE OF ESPRESSO MACHINES?: Introduction to the Decent Espresso Machine 

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DISCLAIMER- Sadly, looks like I need to make something clear again because there are presumptuous people in the world. I have no affiliation with Decent outside of their gracious 20% discount. I still paid well over $2,000 out of pocket for this machine. Not only that, but I tried to buy one when they first launched years ago, but was much too poor even at the price tag then of $1,000. I do not get anything for this video, I do not make any money from sales. I genuinely think this machine is revolutionary. And you can know this is true because if I were lying, I'd be liable for not disclosing. So, again, Decent did NOT request a video. I do NOT receive compensation. I DID receive a discount, but it was because Decent believes in education. They extended a bigger discount off to Jonathan Gagne (25%) because he is an astrophysicist and is doing incredible work with his machine. Please chill and know if there is an incentive, I will ALWAYS disclose it!

I will now only refer to James Hoffman as "Daddy Hoff"

Awesome breakdown. Thanks. I learned from your video that I think among all of the decent’s unique contributions to the espresso machine world, the most incredible might be the repeatability of complex shots. One can produce a complex shot on a lever machine, but to repeat it reliably will forever be subjective. To be able to share a shot profile, literally around the world, and to drink an identical shot of coffee on different continents….. that’s crazy town. Very cool. Thanks again

OH MY GOSH “DADDY HOFF” TOO GOOD… I have NEVER heard such a good nickname 🤣🤣🤣

Ok, I will forever think of your DE1 XL as "Vanna White". I got my DE1 XL and love it. Thank you again for such amazing and varied content. Amazing as always.

Best humor on the internet. Laughed so much.

My local coffee shop is currently using Decent Espresso-machines purely for their pour-over (they have made their own custom recipes) - This helps with consistency and removes some of the manual work from the baristas.

Great video. Great machine. Really caught the essence of what it can do

As an owner of the same Decent XL in your video, I want to thank you for posting this video. You cover many aspects of this machine I have not yet experimented with. I am a total beginner and decided to dive in completely with this new hobby by purchasing a Decent because of the incredible feedback. Thanks for the enthusiastic demonstration.

I’m always sitting outside my shop for a few minutes before I open in the morning when you upload, so it’s nice having a new video to watch! 🤜🤛

Merci Lance! Encore une super vidéo!

Love the bleeding edge of tech in coffee. Always appreciate your videos

A pretty “Decent” video, fun and informative, superbly cool and great to watch. Your Decent espresso machine is stunningly beautiful. Rock and Roll, coffee time ☕️☕️😊

Lance I love your videos! Keep up the wonderful work. What a spectacular thing that Decent espresso machine is. Fascinating, forward-thinking technology, isn't it?

This is my dream machine. Rocking Breville Bambino currently and need a grinder next but man...this, like the "fancy telescope" grinder you have is the bees knees

love watching your videos! you taught me how to do latte art and make some really good espresso!

This is a very clever machine. I think you can either get a Decent to do everything or you can get a lever machine coupled with the Smart Espresso Profiler. They’re both fun to play with I would imagine!

Been looking forward to this!

love it. totally temped but i like the action of the lever so much.

What’s your thought about this machine now, after a year - where they bumped up the price to $4k? Do you recommend anything else around this price range? The main attraction of this machine for me is control over parameters and (possibly) repeatability of shots, and maybe using adaptive profile (that Gagne made). I want to know that considering all this, is this machine the only choice I have to get a nice fruity, crisp and repeatable shot of lightly roasted coffee? My only concern is this machine does not maintain its residual value considering fast tech advancement (compared to a classic machines). Love to hear what you think.

"Daddy-Hoff" at 21:05, so magical :D :D :D

Found you via “Daddy Hoff” courtesy of RU-vid, loving your content. 👍🏻 Your milk steaming tutorials have been a great help. I only got into home espresso this year and am trying my best to absorb as much knowledge as possible. Ironically I’m having more trouble with perfect milk texture than I am with my shots. I’m either stretching the milk too much or too little. Although I’m getting a great roll there always seems to be a clump of bubbles on the top that haven’t been incorporated into the milk. If I stretch less I lose those bubbles but I don’t have enough texture to create any art. I keep the wand locked in the position you showed. I have a Silvia and I’m wondering if I need to be more gentle opening up the steam. If I open up too quickly I’m either getting the horrible screeching or a milk explosion rather than a nice controlled stretch. Any pointers to where I’m going wrong?

The cat at 15:06 had me FLYING out of the shower thinking it was my daughter crying 😂 I work nights as a nurse, so it’s 0239 central as I’m typing this and I bout had a heart attack 😂

Brilliant, thank you, now I know what the Decent is all about and why the buzz. It's not me, too much software, and it's not my budget, but I get it. And I picked up some ideas to try when I've done my 5-in-1 full manual mod (PID brew+steam, pump dimmer, gauge, lights) to my ClassicPro, such as the bloom shot... I wouldn't worry about daddy Hoff's spooning technique, for now I drop it bottomless into a twinwall and slowly enjoy the unstirred unswirled virtual salami - a journey in every cup

Really love this machine… the concept and idea, the philosophy and everything behind it. PROBLEM is… I’m not looking forwards to have a screen, software, buttons and technology on my coffee machine…. Pulling my shots is my moment of zen… The last things I want is to feel like I’m doing TikTok while pulling my shots… I love the machine exists, I would love to use the machine… just not having it dominating my routine. Lance - love you man… great content… love that you are not repeating things as often :)

I see what you did there. Daddy Hoff would never stir with the handle. You are such a rebel! An excellent review by the way!

Really love the decent and have been drooling over one for a couple of years, but for the tinkerer who would realistically be using it for 2-3 shots a day, is it worth it vs something like a Bianca? Price difference currently sits at about $1200 more for the decent, and I’m just not sure that the tech is worth that?

I both love and hate how intricate Coffee has become. I understand the insanity of wine drinkers now.

Awesome video, Lance! I’m hoping to get a Decent this holiday season (assuming Santa has me on the right list this time 😂)

Did you modify the drip tray to fit the scale or does decent offer that as an add on?

Brilliant

Hey Lance, I know this video is older but do you still feel this machine is worth the money over others in its price range? Thanks so much for all of your hard work and passion. You actually inspired me to get deeper into coffee/espresso. I'm looking to add a high end machine to our new kitchen. We love all kinds of coffee in this house from milk based, drip to straight espresso. I'm probably the only one that will be drinking straight espresso and experimenting with profiles, but I just can't see a negative to this machine. Thanks for the help.

I sooooo want one of these!

A great machine and an even better concept. I agree that it's a window on what we should expect to see in the future. If only it had a more "decent" name 😞

I would love to see you do a video about how to replicate some of these Decent profiles on things like the Flair 58. Especially things like the blooming profile, turbo shots, Londinium, allonge, etc.

Lance is the milk texture and taste up to the quality of the la marzocco machines? I want to fet one if these sometime but i like milk drinks also. I think i would get xxl.

I just love your personality.

I enjoy every minute of your videos Lance! Great work again! I'm not sure if I really 'need' a decent, I'm very happy with my Flair 58, and will add a SEP and acaia soon for logging/replication. Part of the decent-temptation is being able to join the club of cool kids and nerd out in those closed groups... :-) I had a chat here yesterday with Stéphane Ribes (which you might also know from the decent community) on how we like light roast espresso, and how medium roast has been the default "espresso-roast" maybe because most machines just aren't capable of doing a full extraction of all the good stuff, leaving you with an unextracted sour mess. I can get shots from my Flair 58 that have the same flavor balance as a well-executed V60 (but much more intense of course). I have no doubt the decent is one of the only semi-automatic machines that can get close, while still keeping the roast level fairly light. Speaking of roasts, I use a stronghold, which is the tesla of coffee roasters. ;-)

Great video! I've always wondered how capable the machine is at steaming milk?

Love it! Your videos keep getting better and better. Super jealous with your Decent. Hoping GME and AMC go to the moon so I can get one of these 😂

I mean I guess I'll take on I've hear they are pretty decent.

Debating between the Decent and a Slayer. I know on paper that the Decent can do way more, but if you've also tried a Slayer, do you have any insight on how the actual cup compares?

What grind setting is your niche set to for the blooming espresso? I've been having to go much finer than I expected to get the pressures right on a majority of the profiles with lightly roasted beans.

Hey Lance. I’m in Monte Carlo. Coffee here is wonderful. Back next week. I’ll watch this video then. Hope all is well with you! Channel is rocking and content has been fantastic. So happy for you. You are winning. Just like I told ya. I’m good at spotting talent! Best Eric 😀💪☕️

Oh man, so stoked you made this video! Would you be able to test the latte art making capabilities of this machine? Most videos of this machine are for just espresso, and the few latte Videos there are out there are generally not very good.

As a control engineer, this is my dream machine! Hopefully I'll be able to afford it one day 🙏

Would you recommend this espresso machine as my first espresso machine when budget is not an issue? My other option is the Lelit Bianca V3

Can the decent be use for commercial operation? What's a commercial machine closest to decent?

Nice walk through! Hope to afford one of these one day! What espresso cup are you using in the video?

Great video Lance, I am big allonge fan so I feel the Decent is the end goal to limit the work and attentiveness needed on a Lever/BDB. The laziness aspect is so important when doing it everyday haha

I had a huge espresso upgrade to a rancilio silvia just a few months ago but I've been feeling the itch to blow my money on a decent and a good grinder. I think the only way I can justify it at the moment is if I were to liquidate the thousands of dollars of assets from my other hobbies.

Would love to see a head to head between this and a gaggiuino

The feature the Acaia Lunar scale has where it displays the flow rate in grams should be integrated into the decent so it just isn't just measuring the the input flow but measures the output flow as well. Just a thought. That feature, combined with machines such as the BDB with the Slayer hack or the Flair seems to be very powerful to me.

Lance, help me. I have been charging my mind every day for the last 2 weeks. I have narrowed my choices to Decent and the Brevelle duel bowler. I would mod the BDB and have flow profiling. Is the Decent worth twice the money? I will keep it for 5 yrs or so. I could buy either one, but if it’s not worth twice the money? Your opinion is highly valued after watching many of your videos. Your expertice is incredible.

3 weeks in my home espresso journey and starting to feel I’m still in the vinyl age of espresso machine 😂😂😂 oh well that’s technology.

Whilst I agree that technology will take us places (in coffee and everything else) that we don’t expect and then we will wonder how we lived without it, I can live without a coffee machine with a computer. I shoot film and have a darkroom, so I guess I’m that way inclined in life, but I’m very happy with my old Rocket machine that has a green light to know it’s on and nothing else. It never needs to be switched off then on again. It just always works and does so with style. Thank you for making the awesome coffee videos. I have learnt so much from them.

Lance where do you get the drip tray cover with built in recess for Lunar scale?

Will the niche zero enough for profiles such as blooming profile and slayer profile or I need to upgrade my grinder

The detail in your videos I love... not these weak af 9 min videos for views.

Pressure is flow times resistance. V=IR. That blew my mind.

Hi lance, what do you think about the steaming quality if the machine?

What's the upside down pot doing front centre?

I think it's the Future of coffee in office. Puqpress + proper grinder + Decent = easily achievable proper cup

Where to buy this machine?

Super curious for a discussion about the new not yet released Breville machine you just received, vs this data heavy machine. Two super cool machines.

What's your favorite coffee to use for espresso.

hi lance u r my fave coffee person LOL but seriously how did you read my mind?! I was looking at these yesterday and debating between Linea Mini and a Decent haha

Where did you get the custom drip tray to hold the lunar?

You mentioned that for a blooming shot you want a good grinder that can grind fine enough. Can niche zero do this?

How does the DE1 compare to the Breville Oracle Touch? Also, I love the cheese and the bloopers. The former makes me laugh and the latter humanize you. Much love from the Midwest!

Do you know the difference between the pro and the xl? And do you recommend one over the other?

I'm from Brazil and I love your videos. I'm just now deciding between buying a Linea Mini versus a Decent. Here in Brazil the most common are medium roasts, mainly aimed at pour over/melita/v60, quality espresso is not as well spread as in Italy. Hard decision between LMLM vs decent hehe

Love my decent!

Wow what a machine, I see your using the Niche zero, is this your favourite grinder for espresso shots or is there another grinder you like say eureka mignon specialita

I understand this machine introduces many more variables to espresso. What I don’t really understand is how you can dial in your beans which a machine like this. Is the process different?

So, given the metering and controls this machine has, how long will it take for it (maybe using an AI) to figure out the optimal settings?

Would one be able to see the difference in pressure when portafilters are not set to the same space with the Decent? I've definitely noticed that between baristas there can be large differences in how long espresso can take while set at the same grind and dose. I've just never seen this talked about when discussing espresso and feel like it may be essential to espresso introductions, but maybe it's all in my head 🤷

Lance, did you know there is now a drinking game which includes a drink every time someone compares the Decent design to Tesla? 😆

There are barely any videos on breville barista touch, can you do one if you can get ahold of one

I’m a coffee geek and I like my milk based drinks. I use my decent machine without much thought at 730 in the morning. It does a great job with that. I like knowing that I have the power to experiment with new coffees when I have the time on a lazy afternoon :) and the occasional new coffee profile or method the comes up in the decent diaspora is fun to explore as well!

Awesome video as always Lance! I don’t see the link to enter for the Flair 58 in the comments. I’m trying to use my “silky milky” on a Flair 58 ( pointing “finger guns” at you) Am I looking in the wrong place?

Hey Lance, I've really been enjoying your videos lately! Can you post a link to where you got that drip tray cover with the Acaia scale cutout? I'd love to get a black one for my DE1 Pro.

Love the video, I wish I could afford the decent 😂

Review a ecm withflow control. I got a synkronika with flow control and would like to see how it stacks up against something like this.

Couldn't find where to enter the code word in the Flair form. Maybe cause I don't have Facebook and all the entries must be filled to unlock the code word.

Nice

A lot still need to be documented about the Ethiopian Coffee culture since the coffee culture originated there.

Im finding it super difficult to get much info or reviews on the xxl. It seems like they have fixed some issues with this model but no videos on it.

does anyone remember the video/link with the full story of how the Decent was born ??? TIA

Actually even a completely begginer user could just choose a preset recipe of other community members push the button and make a barista level cup. That's outstanding!

Can one connect machine to a Mac laptop or imac and control function albeit with a mouse?

I watched the entire video hoping you'd pull a shot with 58. Could you please replicate your shots on 58? For example how to pull a slayer style shot on Flair or compare 58 with Decent

Yes yes,That's why I bought Bianca ,easy affordable and less electronic ...I don't like tablet sitting on top of my babe...but all about personal preferences...cheers

Oh hell yes. The more subscribers, the more money you get.

BTW, what is that white cup?

Is that the new steam wand grip material?

At 20:04 you state that there are no machines "that can do everything", which means that there are things that the Decent cannot do. Would love for you to elaborate on this. What is it that the Decent cannot do? Are any of these important? I ask for all of us out here who are looking for a new, future proof machine. Also, would you recommend this machine for a non-coffee-gear-head? For example, my wife likes to pull a shot every now and then but is uninterested in anything too complicated. It would be great if she could simply use the already dialed-in grinder setting and a pre-saved profile on the Decent.

Imagine being able to buy from a roaster and included on the bag is an optimized profile to scan into your machine.

I’ll be contentious again. During a blooming shot you say it needs a finer grind. Not the case of you stop the flow through the pick completely. The saturation will actually cause a lock due to surface tension. To make a blooming thus requires a coarser grind than if it was to be continuous flow rate shot. That said I appreciate the introduction to the decent and that reinvention of the boiler is amazing