I got one of these at launch and have been happy with it for gaming ever since they updated the firmware. I wanted a large high end HDR gaming monitor that wasn't OLED and decided I didn't care about value, just wanted something I could set and forget for 5-10 years. I don't think this monitor is worth the cost, but I don't think it's egregious given how little competition exists in this segment. Ultrawide is fun for FPS and racing games.
Right now I don't see these issues with the newest firmware update 1011 for Samsung G9 Neo but I would prefer running it at 120 hz because it's almost impossible to play AAA games at 240 hz. There are no any gpus which can run at this framerate or higher. Only old games. HDR is excellent. HDR Dynamic, VRR on and Local Dimming High are the best options to watch and to not having flicker issues. The brightness is greater than in OLED but there are some auras at the low brightness (very rare scenes, brighter scenes are more frequent in movies or games). OLED as a monitor is not a good idea. Tge burn-in is much more probable in such conditions. 32:9 gives a unique experience, not anything like it. The next thing after VR. 2000 $ on sale. Software measurement is inaccurate. Around 100% sRGB, 85% Adoe RGB, 91% DCI-P3 on rtings.
I watched lots of review vids on this monitor before deciding to buy it. Even with all its issues known, I decided to take a chance on it. Just got it a week ago and luckily I don't have any problems with it yet. Ran a monitor test and no defects showed up. It is making 'popping' noises as the plastic heats and cools. Overall, super happy I pulled the trigger on it. The screen real-estate is awesome outside of gaming. Gaming is super immersive.
I am totally with you on the lack of vertical pixels in today's monitor selection. I'll gladly take excess horizontal pixels if the vertical pixels are within the 4k spec. I'm rocking an ancient Dell U2410 and am patiently waiting for a curved ultrawide HDR 1000 monitor with a high refresh rate and reliable panel technology. It might never come.
Yep me three! I've been sitting painfully watching the options go to shit for years! Still on 30" U3014! Where's my 16:10, 4096x2560 (would accept 3840x2400), 120Hz (preferably 240Hz because why not, OLED can do it with ease by now), 32-40", OLED with no burn-in issues already! I'd take two off the rip!
@@hoffybeefe just picked up an eve spectrum for my 4k needs, was looking at hdr 1000 monitors but too expensive and bad implementation when you can get an LG oled for around $1000. I fear we’ll be waiting a long time for oled monitors at 120+hz with hdr :( such a shame as I don’t have room on my desk for a tv
Yeah so far only a 21:9 one at 75hz for vertical 4k but no 32:9’s or anything high refresh until we get nvidia gpu’s with the new display port standards
Excellent timing. I was about to order one of these during the 25% off sale. Held off to see what else comes out next year. Now I know this is not the end all be all. Just darn close.
I have had the original G9 for over a year now and I love it. It is great for productivity and the few games that support 32:9 are amazing. But holy crap, does it have its issues, especially with the earlier firmware versions.
I bought the original G9 as the Neo was coming out, so I was able to get a steep discount. Very happy with it as well, but had some issues at 240 Hz. Dialed it back to 120, which is plenty for me. I haven't gotten around to updating the firmware yet, but I think that might solve some of my last issues. So thanks for reminding me to do that, I guess :D
I just got my original G9 back from RMA, as I had an issue with the LCD panel itself (white/black color flashes a bit left of the center), which after a bit of googling was also a relatively common issue (they replaced the LCD panel on mine). But other than that and it lacking at least a simple KVM to switch between PC and laptop, its been great.
Thank you so much for this review, really enlightening. I was under the impression that this monitor "had it all" and while I wasn't considering a purchase I had recommended it to a few people who wanted "the best ultrawide". I'll be tempering those recommendations for the time being. I'm kinda surprised that Samsung would release this with so many issues, kind of taints their brand.
It's not really unique to them. Pretty much all displays that advertise being incredible like this actually cut corners or do tricks to hit the numbers. And most of the time it's yeah 240Hz but hdr off cause it needs to sumb sample and other stuff so it doesn't have bandwidth for hdr anymore, and so the actual real world spec is 120 with hdr, or 120 with good image quality. This thing is just too expensive because the form factor is not common. Actually it's kind of the general truth of wanting to buy the best most top of the line thing right now. You go bleeding edge and you get all the bugs.
I almost impulsively bought the non neo version, I put it in my cart and purchased only to cancel it 2 minutes later as excitement turned to regret right away. the non neo model is still 1500$ and it's really not that great for what you're paying. I ended up buying the a 50inch 4k TV for 1000$, the Sony x90j model. I'm real happy to have dodged that bullet, Samsung is an awful brand and every time I purchased one of their products I regret it for one reason or another.
@@zoopa9988 Yeah, Samsung is trash in every product they release. my friend bought a samsung Fridge and samsung washing machine and dryer and thankfully he got the extended warranty. the fridge had issues like water leaking or something and the washing machine got fixed twice before they gave him a new one which broke down again while out of warranty. Samsung gained a lot of popularity back in late 2000's because of the recession, people were willing to try a less expensive brand to save a few bucks. Unfortunately that price advantage came at a cost, this is a company that will cut corners where ever they can to save pennies.
im on a 21:9 and regret not just going with about a 40" 4k instead, support for ultrawide is not great and a lot of media does weird crap with black bars even when it is ultrawide format
Goddamn I hate Disney+ black bars, rendered in the video. There was a browser extension to crop the black bars, but it stopped working. There's no excuse for someone as big as Disney to have that kind of oversight.
i really think these monitors are geared towards productivity. it will have to take serious adoption for media to fit this format. i don’t think it’s they make sense unless you are doing a bunch of office work on them. they are killer for big spreadsheets and programming
@15:21 i prefer gaming on ultrawide resolutions.... Having the HORIZONTAL real-estate is a game changer for wfh and gaming. I got an older g9, and i love this thing. having owned triple 16:9 displays and a single 34" 21:9 , I just can't go back,. dont care if 4k " has more pixels", will still prefer to game and work on 32:9 or 21:9. in 2021 i would not spend money on 16:9 displays even if they're 4k.. period.
This is 2023 and I just got the second hand one which is barely used by the first owner, and with its warranty still intact for 2 years. Got it for $900, quite impressed with the quality and the price.
I just traded my G7 in for a 32in 2440p LG 175hrz. I thought I could get over the curve and how glitchy it was but I couldn't after less then a year. It nice not having to think about your monitor.
I can confirm, that Club3D cables really work great. I ditched almost all other DP1.4 cables. Also that switch is amazing. Glad I bought it. Thank you, Wendel!
I have the original G9 2020 with the latest firmware version 1016.0 never had any issues, Gaming on 32:9 with HDR and 240Hz is breeze, In terms of productivity I see all I can't go back to anything else !
All my computing life I've had the mission to keep on getting bigger monitors but along the way I've learned that for me, 34" Ultrawide with a nice curve is my limit where I can take in the whole picture without moving my head. If this monitor were offered to me today as a switch from my 2 year old 34", I'd turn it down. I've found my perfect monitor size and the horror that was living with a 55" screen as a monitor are long behind me.
I went from 24" monitors to 43" monitors, I ended up sitting further back so they take up the same field of view. It's better for my eyes since I focus at a further distance. Ideally I'd like to have 80" monitors and sit like 3 meters away.
I own the original G9 and I love it for productivity. I have been using it for almost an year now but the issues with horizontal scanlines and random flickering drives me nuts at times. I've grown too attached to the curvature and aspect ratio of this monitor which is making it harder for me to get accustomed to the 55" C1 I purchased to replace it.
For anyone thinking about Neo G9 240hz. I do own 4 DP 1.4 KVM of Lvl1tech, and it works like a charm... To good I would say. No visible artefacts or losses in image quality. Hard to tell, if it's intended.
I've always wondered why we can't just...Plug in two cables to overcome bandwidth limitations. I'm aware there are signalling and synchronization issues, but that seems like an issue that should be solvable, given ALL of the funding going into various display engineering projects at the moment.
you can plug in two inputs to this monitor, so in theory you could run it in that mode but out of 1 single gpu and run it using AMDs eyefinity set up for 2 monitors. I'm not sure if something nvidia has or on windows that could do a dual display setup.
I got one after a long time researching different monitors. I took the chance and so far it has been flawless for me paired with a 6900xt. HDR looks great, granted I came from no HDR at all but I enjoy it. Just set up fancyzones!
Thanks for your review. I really enjoy my Samsung C49RG9 monitor. It is less curved than the Odyssey version (1800R vs 1000R). It has the same resolution, but has a maximum refresh of 100Hz. I normally run in two 1440p mode. I have a 3rd 1440p monitor, a Samsung C27HG70, with a 144Hz refresh. Much more affordable than the Odyssey equivalents.
I own a CRG9, it is 120hz not 100hz. It is a great monitor in SDR but has terrible blooming in HDR (like the G9 that came after it). For new buyers: I wouldn't buy the Neo G9 as there is a new QD-OLED version coming out this year which likely won't have as many issues. For a more affordable SDR option both the CRG9 and G9 are good choices but the G9's pixel response is significantly faster for dark transitions (there is no black smearing at all). The CRG9 is quite fast for most transitions however you do see some smearing on those dark transitions (still better than any non Samsung VA).
I got myself the C49RG90 (not a 240Hz version). 1440p is good enough for me in productivity department (software dev). Cockpit view in racing games is the only proper way to appreciate it - especially single seaters.
I'm in the same boat. I want to get the wide monitor for productivity (also software dev) and have heard from practically all reviewers to avoid this one and get the "less fancy" 49" from Samsung. I occasionally game, mostly Flight Sim and CSGo. Would you also suggest to avoid this monitor for this kind of use?
Love my 2 source 2 screens dp1.4 KVM. Classy, work extremely well for my 4k 120hx and my 1080p plus mouse keyboard and headset between my host and my VMs
One thing I think I would prefer about that monitor over a 4K TV is pixel density. My current 4K TV might as well be 1080p in all but real estate at the distance that I sit from it. Although it's 55 inch.
Pixel density is actually HIGHER on the 4K at the same viewing experience. You'd sit the SAME distance from a curved ultrawide as on a single 27" so we'll just use the normal 27" for comparison. Typically you'd sit a 1:1 ratio for 16x9. Since you'd sit the same ratio for your 4K TV (i.e. 55") the 4K HDTV is 2.25x higher pixel density. So for pixel density to be WORSE you need to be sitting more than 2.25 x 55" which is about 123" or TEN FEET. That's not really a monitor. It's a normal TV. If you were sitting at a desk capable of supporting the Ultrawide then you could just use a 4K monitor and have 2.25x the pixel density as the Ultrawide. So I'm not quite sure what your point is. AND your TV is "1440p" at ten feet. To be "1080p" (at same 1:1) you'd need to be sitting 4x55" which is EIGHTEEN FEET!
Bought one of these, fairly impulse purchase, but got a good price. Was using 2x27" before. Tend to agree: it seems to do everything it claims to, but there are some big "quality of life" gotchya's -- some from Samsung's bad firmware, and some just from the format of the monitor. Feels like it overshoots the mark somewhat, and that a 21:9 with a gentler curve might've been a better option. My gripes / "buyer beware" / things i'd like to see fixed: - Blue power LED. First, noone cares about blue LEDs anymore. Second, it's super annoying at night when blinking in a dark room if you put your PC to sleep. Incase you have this in a bedroom. - I use DP for my PC and 2xHDMI for Work computer in PBP mode (work laptop with a dock, neither support 5140x1440). Swapping between single input and dual-input PBP is awful. The OSD does not let you choose PBP unless it's receiving input. This means you have to boot up a computer before and then effectively change inputs which is time consuming and totally breaks all your window sizing, positioning, etc. In theory this monitor should be just as good for office-type productivity as it is for everything else it sells itself as, and it's fine when you get it going, but it's a massive, massive pain to swap between on a daily basis. - Similarly, "auto switching" between inputs is poor / nonexistent. It will swap if you plug something in, but it won't auto-switch to a already-connected signal and so it just goes to sleep, rather than auto-switching. - Almost no monitor arm options, Ergotron seems to be the only good option, but very expensive. - The "No Input Detected" screen only shows for, seriously, 3 seconds and then the monitor turns off. So you need to press things and wait for it to come back on again and f' around in the OSD to do stuff. Needs to be adjustable to make it, say, 10 seconds or so. Again, sucks if you use multiple inputs on a daily basis. - USB ports don't seem to output power incase you want to leave a cable plugged in for charging your phone or something. Not sure, seems hit or miss here. - There are 3 customisable buttons, but these can only be used for functions in the "Game" section of the OSD, of which there is hardly anything anyway, and even then using them (e.g. turning on the cheater crosshair) makes the monitor go black and then turn back on as if you were switching inputs. You can't program the buttons to do anything actually useful like swap inputs or colour profiles or whatever. - I can forgive it, but boy, lots of movement and wobble when using the OSD joystick. - The "Infinity Core Lighting" thing at the back is dim. If you're hoping to illuminate your desk setup / battle station / whatever with RGB, forget it. It's only practical purpose is to look cool in an open environment where people can see the rear of the monitor. If you have this monitor against a wall, forget it. - The curve is extreme. Even your Chrome or Explorer or Notepad or whatever doesn't look "straight". Takes some getting used to, I guess. This takes some points away from using this for productivity rather than content consumption (games/movies). - Luckily I've not had any major issues with mine, but I can tell there is the "screen door effect" when displaying large areas of white. I imagine this is just a fact of life with local dimming zones. Overall too, no, it's not going to be as good as OLED, but you really can't expect it to be either. Not the monitors fault but worth thinking about: - Poor game support for 32:9. Unless you have specific titles that properly make use of it, it's kind of a waste. - 2 x 27 was nice for fullscreening video on one monitor, and then doing stuff on the other. Trying to fullscreen anything on this sucks. The main issue is video. Apps, sure, get something like FancyZones. But sometimes I want to fullscreen video to the entire left or right half, as in, ACTUAL fullscreen to fill the entire space, no taskbars or titlebars, and then still use the other side for other things. You can do that with PBP, but then you sacrifice other functionality, which defeats the point of buying this monitor. Or you have to deal with changing the configuration back and forward. This is more the computer's / OS' fault though, not the monitors. Still, would love a solution.
Get the original G9. It is fantastic and actually performs better in some metrics that the Neo. Check HUB review! Love my G9 for sim racing, not sure about productivity....
Hey Wendell, I’ve got that exact KVM and this monitor (non-Neo). You’re gonna need to upgrade the monitor firmware to the latest version, enable freesync, set to 240hz in monitor and 120hz in PC, I’m using a 6ft club3D cable and a 3ft club3d cable. 9ft is the limit! Other cables caused issues and artifacting, it MUST be club3D cables. iVanky cables weren’t cutting it. The less pixels are better for gaming. Yes it’s less than 4K in pixels, but easier for a GPU to drive. It also forces games that only work in a single monitor to use dual monitor space.
@@JohnSmith-cz3us the one out the box had flaws for me. Many cables have flaws and “work” but get artifacting and crap at certain resolutions or refresh rates. The reason being is they make the cable, but do not test them and VESA certify them. So it’s a gamble when using different cables.
@@DarksurfX so having those cables have allowed you To play at 240hz no problem? Do they also prevent GPU to clock down from exiting a game and going to desktop? I have original G9. I get eye strains, headaches, from what I believe is pwm flicker.
@@JohnSmith-cz3us I don’t play at 240hz. I play at 120hz and the full resolution. Not sure my Radeon VIi supports that res at that speed. And the Vega Radeon have trouble with the handshake phase used in DP. It’s a bit weak. Waiting for the RX7800.
Got his Neo G9 since August 2021. Firmware updates really help. For my personal experience, I'm keeping 120Hz as maximum frequency for better image quality over 240Hz (experienced some micro black screen)
Yep, I'm with you on the verticality issue. The 1600P ultrawide is far more interesting to me, but also infinitely outside my price range (but, so is a crappy second hand 22" currently).
I have the Odyssey G9 (original), which I recently got on sale at almost half off. I really had to debate on whether I'd regret not buying the Neo. No regrets. The price of the Neo is absurd. Unless you put the Neo and the G9 side by side you really can't tell the difference. The brightness on the G9 is so bright that it hurts if you put it all the way up - The Neo is just overkill unless your in a totally dark room and not sitting close to your monitor.
Sure, but without dimming zones the halo effect is attrosious on the original. I only use mine as an SDR monitor, for that it's awesome. But no way would I even think of comparing the HDR quality to the NEO.
With original G9, you have to turn of hdr when you dont use it, because windows desktop look washed out, only turn on when watching hdr movies and play hdr games. With Neo G9, I turn on HDR all times, never use sdr mode anymore, because windows desktop looks amazing with HDR.
@@JohnSmith-cz3us as I test, it is so fast and smooth. The only issue is gpu clock and memory clock at idle is so high, i think that is nvidia driver issue.
@@mjhieusuper no with the original G9 it’s the same thing. And I have AMD video card with free sync. It’s the monitor. 100%. Others have complained about this too. Does it worry you that this happens? Can the video card get damaged or overheated? I have been using G9 original for past 3 weeks and am returning it this week because of eye strain and headaches. The Neo uses mini LED so I ordered it and will test out. But if the monitor forces my clock speed to be so high after gaming at idle, maybe I should cancel the order?
I got the neo for $1600 on Black Friday with combination of discounts. I run it at 240hz and dont find it to be blurry. My biggest gripe is that it tends to over saturate. Having watched your video though I’m going to try it in 120hz mode to see if the experience improves. I mostly play amazons new world so I’m never getting over 120 FPS for the most part. Thanks for the info!
I got this monitor last month for around 1600 dollars. Before this monitor, i was using a 27 inch LG 144hz 4k monitor with 2 other monitors on the left and right for misc. Gotta say, i really enjoy this 49 inch monitor and how immersive it is for most games. It's unreal. one of the biggest differences i've noticed is that since there is such a dramatic curve, everything feels centered towards me. looking back at the flat screen 27 inch monitor, everything not directly in the middle is noticeably farther away from my vision. I also love being able to use this monitor in PiP mode with two computers where i can have one side for work and the other for gaming, using mouse without borders to switch between the two PCs with one mouse and keyboard. There are some cons i've noticed though using it for a month. For one, text has a weird discoloration, in fact, this discoloration can be seen in lines/edges of other minor things in games and more. It isn't really noticeable while playing games without text or fast movement, but if i am working, reading, looking at chat in WoW, there is a very noticeable and distracting discoloration which makes it strenuous to read at times. Never have that issue with the 4k 27 inch. Another con is refresh rate in PiP mode. its 240hz in its native state, but in PiP mode, it seems it maxes out the refresh per screen to 120hz. Sadly, i can notice the difference between 120hz and 240hz, and honestly, i can feel it between 120hz and 144hz. i would be alright with the monitors being 144hz in PiP mode at minimum, but it is unfortunate that it maxes PiP refresh rate to 120hz (although the youtuber here said it was 144hz in PiP mode? am i missing something?) There is also the issue with defects/QC with these monitors. the first monitor i received had sporadic vertical flickering on the left side of the monitor, and also the entire monitor would hard flicker black for about a quarter second and come back randomly but it was not very often. probably every several hours. Now what my ultimate dream monitor at the moment would be...might sound crazy.... but it would be a the width of 3 27 inch monitors (so that i could have a bezel-less triple monitor setup) that is the same resolution or higher preferably, that is QD-OLED, HDR, and honestly, it doesnt have to be 240hz, but 144hz minimum in both native and PiP mode. That would literally be the dream. Is that too much to ask!? lol probably, but that would be such an amazing monitor for gaming and work. Please, someone make this monitor! lol.
I just bought another open box 49". I will sell the original 3840x1080p 144hz version that has been great. Just bought the original G9 240hz and for only $672 out the door it is great. Had the plastic on it still. Not a single issue I have seen yet with it.
If you’re a computer and electronics expert, any problem with this monitor you’re going to notice. For the average person if you want wide angle with great picture, you’ll love it.
i'm glad there was so much criticism about this monitor, otherwise i probably wouldn't have gotten it for 1700€. The monitor is awesome, I had the LG 27GN950-B before and it''s no comparison, the Samsung just has so much better black without annoying IPS glow and BLB. The colors were really a bit more accurate on the LG but for me that's not so big of a deal since it's a gaming monitor. Compared to the LG C1, I find the HDR experience even better as the peak brightness is simply much higher than OLED. The blooming is not that bad, it's definitely better than BLB and Glow.
I really want a 5120x2160 ultrawide with a high refresh rate. Two 4K monitors side by side is a bit much, but i wish my 21:9 ultrawide was a bit taller for programming purposes...
I recently bought the odyssey 49G97T and it’s been amazing. No regrets! I definitely don’t think the Neo G9 is worth it specifically because of what you mentioned, the local dimming ends up being more distracting than useful in the scenarios where local dimming bloom becomes obvious. I also own one of Samsung’s flagship 8k TVs that support local dimming and the exact same problem arises; I really hate when local dimming doesn’t work properly, either over darkening some areas or bloom presenting itself in an obvious way. Sometimes the entire image over brightens and dips down quickly ever so slightly, but it’s enough to ruin the immersion. You can blame it on video meta data, but I notice it even on non-HDR content. It’s my guess that the issues has to do with Samsung’s lighting algorithm or something of the like because I believe TVs from Sony that support local dimming don’t suffer to the same extent as Samsung products. All this to say that Samsung’s local dimming isn’t the best and if turning it off fixes the issues it presents then there’s no point in getting the Neo G9 lol the G97T provides a more consistent viewing experience without the peaks and dips in brightness, even with its pathetic 10 local dimming zones turned on. I’ve personally looked at and played around with the Neo G9 and the G97T side-by-side and in HDR content the Neo G9 does look better because of its peak brightness, and brightness alone, but I have personally decided that the local dimming function, as Samsung implements it, just isn’t worth it.
@@unerkannterGeisteskranker I’m talking about my own experience, obviously. If your experience has been bad then I empathize for you, but my monitor experience has been excellent with no issues. The hardware and firmware have worked well up until this point. The monitor came with firmware version 1011.8 out of the box and I’ve been hesitant to update it to the latest firmware version. There’s no reason to update if things are working well for me and I rather not risk a newer firmware version potentially making things go south. According to what I have read, the original G95 is definitely the inferior quality option and the G97 (business variant) is suppose to be the revised model that fixes some of the issues from the original. If you’re talking about the G95 then I can potentially agree with you, but the G97 has have been great in my experience. The Neo G9 is supposedly worse than the G97 with regards to quality control. I think it’s more of a gamble with the Neo G9 when trying to win the panel/monitor lottery. It’s sad to think about since the Neo costs a lot more. Even on the Best US Buy website the G97 has much higher positive reviews than the Neo.
My guess is you are one of the users that just uses very simple settings. All users that I got in contact and asked to check for the bugs could see them. They just ignored them before. But a product is not good just because users ignore the features that are bad. For example, if I don't use the radio in my car doesn't mean that it is ok. I just don't care. With the old G9 users ignore that the 240 Hz are only available in 2 resolutions. You will end up in hell playin 4:3 in 240Hz. It is working but not close to good. Taping in and out to different resolutions (Desktop/game) will often make you connect a second display to get the old g9 picture back. If you don't use 1440p resolutions. The noises the G9 makes all the time. The neo doesn't have all those problems. You just concentrate on some things and ignore others. That is ok for personal chitchat. If you post it under a review, someone like me has to jump in as you painting a wrong picture here.
@@unerkannterGeisteskranker I just ordered the Neo. And returning original G9. Can you use 240hz comfortably? Do you use display port cable out of box? Any eye strain using this monitor? Also does your GPU stay at high clock speeds after exiting game and going to desktop? My GPU keeps running fast high clock speeds after exiting game.
@@JohnSmith-cz3us No eye strains. But the neo is really really bright and my wife complained that it is painful to play with it. I am running a rtx3080 and the DP cable that came with the Neo. No GPU load in Windows. What still is messy is that some features enable and disable completely random. (Reaction time, low input lag, display mode to unstrech the picture, local dimming, ...). From time to time the Neo goes to low light mode. The only way to get it bright again is to disconnect the powercable. Very annoying.
Best thing is that 99% gamers can’t afford it. But it’s made for gamers. lol. I would rather pick 50” OLED at half of its price or even less during sale.
I have the original G9 and I love it, I have it connected to both my MacBook and my PC and I use the monitor source as a poor man's KVM. But damn, getting it to work with the MacBook is such a pain in the ass. I had to buy several USB-C to DP cables until I find one that works and even then, sometimes the MacBook just refuses to send a signal. I found that unplugging the cable from the MacBook left port and plugging it into the right port helps, but sometimes only rebooting the Mac fixes the issue. I don't care about the 240hz but I wish that this monitor had USB-C input.
In my experience, manufacturers only have a vague idea of what they want local dimming to do. It's like they know what they want, implement about 50% of it correctly, and then don't understand that the other 50% of the implementation needs to be done correctly. I've seen it work like this (two displays I owned): bright areas get lots of backlight, dark areas get very little backlight. Then that light is filtered by the LCD panel, but here's the thing: that panel isn't driven any differently, whether local dimming is on or off. The fix is this: with dimmed backlight (say a dark corner in a level), the LCD panel needs to "open up" and un-compensate as it were, and show the detail in this dark corner. This doesn't happen. So you have very little light, and on top of that, the panel doesn't use that available light properly to show you what was intended.
The biggest problem with the monitor ( i am watching your review right now on Neo G9 ) is the FALD GRID being visible on white and blues . On 1:06 timestamp you can even see them on your video ! Very very clearly ! I do not know yet what i am going to do with the monitor since everything else are working excellent for me .
Yeah, I long ago decided my ideal monitor would be a 38" 4:3, gimme dat vertical space! If I could find one (and if it had 4k-ish pixel count), I'd readily plop down $2k+ for it. I'm currently running a 32" 16:10 as my main monitor that cost me $1350 in 2013, and that's about as close as I can get to what I want.
I trade a bit in used computer stuff, I got my hands on a couple 4:3 monitors expecting the experience to be mediocre and old fashioned. Man, I was wrong. I have one rotated 90 degrees and a normal 1080p beside it, 4:3 and 3:4 is more than ideal for stuff like word processing. MUCH less wasted space.
I have the 49" HG90 which is a lower resolution and has a less aggressive curve, I really enjoy it. NVidia's RTX desktop manager is great and the PIP or split-screen and built-in KVM is a great feature as well. The cost for those extra pixels wasn't worth it to me.
I have a 46" landscape 4k monitor in the centre with my old portrait 24" WUXGA monitors on either side and they are an almost perfect match. This triple screen solution gives me 6.4k surround gaming without the centre bezel, or 4k gaming with reference screens on either side. It's a very flexible arrangement and way cheaper than one of these monster curved screens.
Mostly I game at 4k, using the side screens for reference (discord one side, youtube & Notepad++ on the other), but it's all just pixels. 8mpix is 64% of 13mpix, so it's a much narrower gap than the jump from 2560*1440 (3.6mpix is 44% of 8mpix). Also, the most of the games I play aren't the most power hungry, so my RTX2070 is more than adequate.
I’ve got the previous generation. I’ve got an active warranty claim which was approved for a replacement in November. Still waiting for the replacement monitor. Average call time with customer service is more than 1 hour, with 12 calls placed so far.
Omgness was I excited to see Wendell do a review on this. I happen to have this very same monitor and have to say, it’s a love/hate relationship. Love all the features /looks but I’m having an issue with the monitor going to sleep whenever I reboot my pc. It makes me have to hit the reset button on my pc case /board in order for me to boot up. Otherwise it won’t reboot fully because the monitor falls asleep. If anyone has an issue similar to mine please let me know. I’m at a loss here. I’d love to know if there’s a solution
Far exceeds anything I'd ever spend on a monitor and I really dislike aggressively curved displays but some of your other points are very relevant for other upcoming monitors capabilities. Thumbs up. Thx for the vid.
I liked this monitor based off the tech specs and it was marked down to 1999 at a few places, but sounds like a no go with all the wonkiness. Not that I had the money for it anyways haha
The VA panel is the least of this monitor's problems. It would be easy to recommend if it weren't for all the other QC issues. It was $1650 with an education discount (that you can just select without proof) on samsung's US store, but even that was too hard to justify. I knew a few people who got the regular G9 for $1000 instead (or $900 with the education discount-not bad for a 32:9 ultrawide)
Thanks for the KVM test! Wondering if it works with monitors like AW2721D (assuming it does if the G9 works lol). Also will you create a DP 2.0 version when those gpus/monitors come out?
Even on a 1440p ultrawide I had DP cable issues at 144hz, and in a normal dual 1440p 16:9 setup each would have its own dedicated cable and this has been reliable. My question is why aren’t extremly high res super Ultrawides using two cables instead of one with DSC?
You know I hate to say it but the best part of this video was watching you crack one half of the box open and piece of instructions or paperwork came flying out off to the side I was dying laughing that was great good job
I needed 2 full production screens with PIP or PBP and ended up buying 43UD79-B - gaming is just 32:9@60 but I am gaming on VR anyway. Price was much better and that is why I decided not to use G9. There is a VRR@60 Phillips for even cheaper if gaming on budget. Anything more should really be two panels or OLED.
I also got the 43ud79 shortly after it was launched, and for a killer sub-600EUR price as well. It does have a few flaws like the backlight not extending to the very edges but that's something i can live with given the massive amount of screen real estate.
I wouldn't pay $2500 USD for this monitor with all the issues it has. Get it when it's on sale. I got mine for $2000 CAD on Black Friday, converts to $1575 USD. A lot easier to swallow at that price.
Is it worth $2500? No, it probably isn't, and that's why I only payed $2000 for mine lol. Of all the ultra-premium monitors on the market though (think ~$1500+) I feel like it justifies its price the best with its specs. My first impressions of mine are pretty good so far. I've heard lots of complaints of QC on them, so only time will tell how that works out, but as of right now I've got no complaints besides the stand just requiring what seems like an unnecessary amount of depth. There is an adjustable desk mount that I may end up getting, but the only one for it is expensive, and I hate spending that extra cash for it now.
Get 3 large 16:9 monitors and play games on all three. If the side bezels still annoy you then just play on one with black bars on the top and bottom to get the same ultrawide resolution. It's better solution for both gaming and productivity, whilst also being cheaper.
That's what I did, 3 x $30 Thrift Store 1080p 16:9 monitors for a total cost of $100. Well, my middle one is 1440p, and I've since added one above for 4, and a 5th 1080p 42" HDMI TV. I might buy a G9 if I can get one for under $200 on the black market. $40 is the highest I've ever paid for any monitor ever so... yeah. And those were some massive 1600x1200 22" Trinitons back in the day someone else paid a mint for when they were new.
I don't get the rest of the world's opinions on screens. Sure a high refresh rate and stuff is neat - but im now working on a 60" 4k HDR tv which was neither expensive nor has a particularily fast reaction time - and i've never been happier with a screen setup in my life. I'm about 1,5-2 meters infront of it incase anyone is wondering.
Linus mentioned you in his AORUS FO48U review. Looks pretty cool. However, it's not curved, so being so close on a desk. that's a drawback. Regarding 2 4k monitors, I used to have 2 on my desk, but after experiencing the neo I couldn't go back. the middle bars are just too annoying. I haven't had issues with the neo other reviewers have reported and got a huge discount on one, removing the valid "too expensive" argument.
If you game in rather dim environments, and who games in blazing sunlight, 1.000 nits is more than enough. In my experience, good HDR is more about black levels than anything else.
I'm in love with the widescreen. I want a 49". I was planning on picking up one of these here fairly soon on todays market for a little over $1k. What other widescreen monitors are out there that compare with this that aren't 4k. I'm specifically looking for 1440p. This monitor seemed to have everything I'm looking for but I'm not about to drop thousands and have flickering and lines and deal with bs lol.
My 4k 27" I have to use scaling anyways to be able to see the text. Really it's the screen size that's more important at this resolution. I have the original G9 for a sim racing setup and the resolution is fine.
I own this monitor but have purchased a 48" lg c1 as well as a LG38GL950. At this point there is still no "holy grail" monitor. All of these monitors have some sort of major drawback. Local dimming for the neo g9, burn-in and weird auto dimming for the c1, and no HDR/poor blacks for the LG 38" IPS. If they made a 38-42" oled dedicated to being a monitor I think that would be about perfect.
No need to watch the video. The monitor is worth it. I have the OG G9 and the Neo G9. They are both awesome. I run both at max resolution and both at 240hz. :)
What monitor do you use for gaming and productivity.. I was thinking 38 ultra wide. A few people have said that the 38's dont play well with streaming ect. due to some kinds of size conversion?
I got one. Its great when it works. It has bugs nonetheless. Samsung screwed the pooch when allowing their flagship monitor to have so many issues. Its awesome to play games on. For me its a love-hate relationship.
Every time I see products like this, I can't help but wonder in how many years those will go for a hundred bucks second-hand and still no one will want them because they're all outdated and look and feel terribly old.
50 inch 4k/120 Hrz Samsung Neo user here who can sit back and say the following with ease: You talk about monitors like they are still a neccessary utility with a special purpose. You mean monitors: Those things that are worse than a TV and cost twice as much? Who in his right mind still thinks monitors are neccessary? Bigger desks are neccessary. But montiors? I am at a place now where i snicker at those "monitor" or "OLED for pc" marketing nonsense claims. I hope you all can test the new 50 inch TVs next year. They surely will make montiors obsolete. You only need a desk which is 0.0050 furlongs deep.
So basically the features between Neo and non neo versions of the G9 dont' really work well, so you might simply save about 1000usd and get the regular G9? How did this product even get past internal testing?
