Is This Unfair For The BASS? 

I hope the Game and Freshwater Commission have started restocking the lakes to keep up with what’s going to happen Good Luck Kyle

This is for low skill fisherman. It is sad to see this technology promoted. It isn't cheating only because this hasn't been banned or made illegal by state fishing regulators. Though hopefully this will happen. Now, if you won "Angler of the year" with this technology an asterisk needs to be put next to that trophy. Bass pros should not brag or promote using this technology. It just reminds people you don't need that much fishing skill to catch quality fish. Someday all you will need is knowledge of a polomar knot and have good forward facing sonar skills to be in the Elite Series. No one wants to watch that. Has anyone here thought of the long term consequences of using forward facing sonar on our fisheries? As this technology becomes affordable and better higher fidelity everyone will have it. How is that good? Anywhere you go you can catch fish. The assault on fish stocks will suffer and most likely be depleted. I know there are selfish people in this world who only care about themselves. Think about the future of bass fishing. What happens when every boat has this and everyone uses it to find fish? It is going to be a conservation disaster! Also I notice a big push by the sonar companies to push this lately. They really don't like all the talk of banning this technology. Every pro posts a positive youtube video about this. Mike Iconellie had one the other day. I'm starting to loose respect for bass pros. Bass Pros should do the right thing and stop with this forward facing sonar crap. Kyle, Good luck with your fishing next year. Hopefully we will get to see you win Angler of the Year without using forward facing sonar. It would mean so much more if that happened.

BASS and MLF banned the A-Rig, FFS will be next. I hope.

I’ve been doing this for about 2 years. I keep my force trolling motor down and can view my scope from the seat while turning the force trolling motor with the remote. I initially did it when I got stuck in some shallow water and was trying to find a deep path out. On the river you will see metal transducer poles hanging off the front of barges. They are doing the same thing with traditional sonar

Unfair and boring as hell. I stopped watching fishing

Wherever this schitt train is goin, I'm glad i got off a decade ago. Some lines are drawn, meant not to cross.....if it's greed you are after, go into politics or used cars. It's unfortunate that such a great pastime has become circle jerk for pimps and ho's.

Modern electronics are killing good fisherman

Are you able to run around on pad with that thing deployed? If not, do you have a way to easily deploy it?

It makes people worse/less intelligent anglers.

Randy blockhead gonna have a stroke 😂

Yup, unfair. And boring, like most of the tourneys unfortunately.

Dadgum sonar getting crazy. I have decided to go ffs as soon as i can afford it. Tell Nanna looks like i am gonna have to start an only fans page to get it done. I will expect her $9.99 a month to help me pay for it. In about 6 and half years i should have it. #justdontsuck #justgettinstarted #Nannarocks

Kyle, why the Garmin up front? why did you pick it over the Lowrance. Interesting that you have an additional unit on the driver side using HDS. Keep up the good work man!

That pure laziness

That’s cool brother

This is why he won AOY. Do you think lowrance is better than garmin for FFS?

Are you using the Kayak model using it at the console?

I can think of a few places that would be useful to avoid idling over stumps when you're in thick timber, to say nothing of scanning areas while on the move. I want one.

Not much challenge in that type of fishing or sport.

That's cool as heck Kyle.. I've heard the Japanese anglers have been "troll-scoping" for a while now..

The sniper pole is elite

Absolutely! Not to mention that I couldn’t care less about fishing that way. When you see them like that it cant possibly be as exciting as not seeing them. I honestly can’t help but want one to fill my deep freeze with crappie. That’s what a ton of dudes do. Id bet good money that you filet a few out yourself.

I’m just so sick of never ending technology in bass fishing enough is enough let’s keep it fishing the ways it’s meant to be not this modern high tech sport becoming video game like.

Its absolutely unfortunate to say the least where tournament bass fishing is heading with ffs and new developments. I understand that to be truly competitive with AOY and classic births you have to join the crowd and use it but when does it get to the point where enough is enough. Your a good enough strictly shallow angler you would be up there with the likes of John Cox if you chose not to use it. At the same time i can tell how competitive you are and that is probably why you havent chosen to push back against it. To each their own... good luck!

Love my Garmin LVS34... great tool to search for offshore structure also. What settings for Gain and Color Gain were you using? Hope you and Hunter and your new little fishing partner had a nice Thanksgiving !!! Happy for you !!!

Sure makes practice a lot easier to find the biomass in the area. Helps to win AOY to help pay for that setup 😉. Good luck with it

I know my way around “small lil local lakes”. 🤣🤣🤣 Never gets old. I got an idea. Every video throw in one “small lil local lake”. First person to comment the time the phrase was used they get some free merch or somethin. Lol!!

I want it, but it shouldn’t be legal for tournaments. That is supposed to be skill not the best gadgets.

Game Department’s are way behind on this and Limit’s were not reduced massively ! I’m just pissed I can not use Dynamite ! Oh that would be an Unfair advantage and destroy the fishery. Think.

How can anyone argue this isn’t unfair for fish? Kinda makes me sick to be honest. Not meaning any disrespect to you Kyle. You’ll whip me without it. Just seems a bit much for professionals to need to use.

Really? You need active target at the console??? You are going to ruin this shit for everyone man. Enough is enough....learn to fish! And im all for FFS but you are over doing it man.

I dont understand how anyone can say this isnt fun. Im not even doing the fishing and it looks fun. As for the people that say the fish just jump in the boat once you get thats crap. I have it and actually caught less fish bc im always chasing the fish on the screen. Trust there is a huge learning curve with this technology.

Most of the people that have a problem with this have never used it. its not as easy as you think and most can't catch a fish out a paylake why do we live in a world now full of people that have to bitch and complain about everything 🤦‍♂️

Certainly wouldn't wanna watch it prefer side scanning. The whole ffs has just put bad taste in my mouth I guess cuz it's boring to watch an most of all not relatable to the most of us

My opinion is we just ride around and look for fish schools then you hen peck em till they scattered out your bird dogging not fishing. This is more like hunting than fishing but you still have to fish to get them to bite. Different sport altogether

I'm 83 so not far away from sitting at the console. Looks like a fun, productive way to fish.

This should definitely not be allowed on the elite series. It's a great tool to find fish, though.

Not a fan of video fishing for me lts the hunt and different types of lures and techniques I have no electronics on my boat so finding and catching a fish is the fun part but if you need the sonar to catch fish more power to you I don't watch any of that boring video fishing anyway

If that device with the arrow on it was connected to Aqua - Vu And get rid of the under water cable down to the fish camera Might be awesome

I use the Motorguide Tour Pro also. What is the aftermarket piece you have added that attaches to the bounce buster to secure it to the deck? I want me one of them!

Their shouldn't be any sonar on any bass boat. If your a So-Callled porofessional . You don't need it.

The thing I would worry about is people running into each other by watching the screen and moving around in a tournament

Kyle do you have a dedicated battery for your fish finders and ffs set up . Any info much appreciated.

Do I think it's unfair to the fish. I don't care what the fish think, and I will continue to use my FFS. I like to catch fish every time I go out on my bass boat, if I didn't like catching fish, I would buy a pontoon boat. The Sniper pole, I can't see myself purchasing one. Christmas is just around the corner; screen cleaner would make great stocking stuffers. LOL!!!

Lead the way AOY! Great content as always, two thumbs up!

As cool as it is ....... do you wish you didnt ''have'' to use it ?

How can you distinguish the species from that yellow dot on the screen?

What are you using at the console to search while on the big motor?

Nothin' like catchin' striper's......😎😎

Man them units are good enough to show a little red truck haulin a Christmas tree. Those stripe are fun to catch for sure. #TeamWelcher

Great video K DUB. Tell Hunter that Amy an I says HI. Hopeing y'all are enjoying the Holidays and still soaking up what a Awesome year you had. Knuckles..

Boy i like that. I've got livescope but dont like using it on the front because im a power fisherman and dont like scoping bass, but love crappie. I bought the pole system that ott pushes, cant think of it off hand something zilla, but i could put it like that and hammer crappie and find bait and brush while side scanning ❤

Does that turret come with a strap-on for the guys who buy them?

Out of curiosity i see you have lowrance at console with garmin on bow is there reason why you didn’t go with the garmin force trolling motor ?

Team Welcher! Gotta do what you gotta do Kyle! Times are a changing! Cant wait to see the new boat! ! Ill see you at grand lake! Coming down from Mo.

What gear do you have (sonar and such) and how much was it? Would you buy this again? I see Lowrance and Garmin, what transducers? Whats the minimum I can have to get by with. I’m on a budget, and doing a Kayak.

I knew they swam continuously but i didn't think they swam that fast! you had that trolling motor smoking.

Striper are 1 of if not the only freshwater game fish that must keep swimming to use the gills. All other have gills that can pull water but stipers don't

Is he running Garmin and Lowarance FFS?

Luckily there are no white bass or stripes in my little local lake but we do get crappie, catfish and a few walleye while scoping for bass. Fun way to fish! Good video Kyle! That turret system is awesome

Randy Blaukat ain't gonna like this...

@kylewelcher Man idk if you remember a comment I made a good while back in another video about “one day sonar being so good you could run down the lake wide open and mark fish.” I think you replied “I need that sonar.” That being said, I like your thinking on this setup here. Saving time, catching fish! 👍🏽👍🏽

Let's Go WelcheR!!

22:13 is the shot... pretty impressive electronics man! 🤙🦀🌴

As a professional trader I recognize that app logo .... i bull, you bull, webull. Fishing is fun but so is the risk curve. Cheers!

Kyle thanks for sharing, Bass I sure hope you're watching...👍

Lol 😂 it really is spot lighting.....😂😂

Great video Kyle. Enjoy the ffs fishing. New boat coming soon?

I think it’s very cool and a unique idea, but I’m not sure how practical it would be throughout a tournament day. Definitely looks legit for crappie fishing or fishing slowly. Maybe would be best to use during practice then take it off during tournaments. I know it would see some at small local pond on hwy 48 right now!

More swimjig and frog content

That would be a good co-Angler gadget

👍✌️ soldier I can understand why some people were even maybe a lot of people would call this cheating... But if it's not identified as cheating in the rule book?? Then I'm going to have to go with no it's not cheating... But we all know very well you are skating a very fine line and that's operating in that gray area that more often than not you're going to get in a lot of trouble you're going to have a lot of people complaining about it... Now granted you're not snagging 8 9/12 lb largemouth bass right before tournament hiding them in your in your live well and claiming your winning tournaments like this....... You're not sticking to 3 oz 4 oz weight on the gut of a bass and weighing him in... ✌️♨️

How often do you fish the local tourneys on Lake Harding thinking of hopping in a few as Harding is my home lake and I have seen your name pop up a good bit on one, just interested🤔

Background photo on phone is on point

when there all gone no need for electronics,

Boy it helps, but boy is it unfair to the fish. I’m having to look in odd places to find fish nowadays. Pressure is tuff on them fish. Fish are becoming like an ole Tom turkey half way through turkey season, gun shy of a lot of calling. 😳👍💯

I like that...ive just been leaving my trolling motor down and have my graphs linked so i can see it at the console and drive and look.

Originally i didnt like it but now i feel like its been around niw for 5 years and ive missed the boat. Doing all i can to get my boat rigged up. Someone needs to provide us regular joes with an affordable option like maybe 999.99$ for a 9 inch please.

all good ! keep on keeping on .

Oh you a bad boy only the champ would do that. Respect player

I would say it’s more ridiculous than unfair 😂! I’m not a fan of ffs technology but if it’s allowed you gotta have it to compete 🤷‍♂️…

I’m hearing that they are putting the salt water transducers as a additional tool, can see as far as 900 feet.

Chasing Hybirds, stripes & crappie blast with Livescope. They are hard to keep up with. Was at West PT yesterday.

"If it was easy everyone would do it" well-- tech made it easy, now everyone is a "fisherman" I would like to see a pro tournament with no sonar.

Dude, I feel better now. My spinning reels get stuck together like that as well!! 😂 Looking forward to following you this year on elites. Good luck!!

Hey Kyle, have you had delaminating issues ?

Stripes and hybrids are so much fun to catch. Two months ago on Hardin the ol jerk baits were tearing them up.

Saw your truck and trailer at the ramp the other night and you were the last to get off the lake. It was dark and you were still out there on the water. Thats why you won AOY, because your hard work payed off. Keep it up Kyle.

Scoping is alot of fun ! I was listen to the st.clair event at work over the summer and after hearing there she is.. bite my bait and then drag just rippin.. i legit just stoped working and purchased licescope and probably one of the best tools ive ever put on my boat to help me catch more fish! Keep up the hard work and good luck on the up coming year man !

What is that thing sticking out of the right side of the drivers station?

I am gonna put one of my float tube. What do you think?

I don't think it is unfair. It would make me a better fisherman when I get my upgrade on my kayak.

Bye!

Just got Live scope and not had chance to take it out yet very informative Thanks Bro

Have you ever caught a 30+ lb stripe below a dam while it's generating?

YES.

Givin away your secrets!

Invaluable Kyle, no matter how well you know your home lake and where they are when you can't find them, they can't hide from that technology. Wouldn't work too well for me as I have to get two to three thousand casts in per day even though I'm hauling water most of the time. Thanks Kyle for another great video.

That's a really nice rig man

Stripers will bite Jerkbaits