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Funny thing is, it seems that they Fades him out in post maybe even to make exactly this point (after all it’s Maynard 🤷🏻♂️). There where some seconds left😬! what a lung😳!
“Leaden” is referring to the metal/element Lead. Your grudges are made of Lead and will weigh you down and drown you. He saying let them go and turn your grudges into something positive, gold (trans mutate them from lead to gold). The scream is is him shedding himself of all of his grudges that weigh him down and then he says let go a bunch of times. It’s all about letting go of your grudges and allowing that total release to change you as a person for the better.
What I found more interesting about this specific lyric is that Turning the lead into gold makes me think the grudges are still there even if you let them go being gold is heavier than lead; however being able to take those grudges and turn them into useful/positive energy. Learning from your experiences and forgiving, but never forgetting.
Saturn's orbit is 29 earth years. This relates to a spiritual process known as 'Saturn's Return' - when Saturn swings back around to where it was relative to Earth when you were born, you sort of go through some shit - basically it's when you hit your late 20's and start reconsidering what you want life to look like, what your priorities really are. Will you let old grudges be anchors that hold you down, or will you let go to rise up and be reborn in this next phase of life. Saturn is the Roman God of Time, bringer of old age. Also "TOOL IS LIKE THE FINAL BOSS IN ROCKBANDS" should be on a T-shirt, that's rad-
Never even occurred to me that this song is related to the Saturn Return. Saturn really can be a muthafucka but teaches great lessons and gives greatest rewards at the end of the turmoil/suffering it can bring. Much respect to Saturn 🪐
Been listening to Tool since Opiate, and there are still new things I discover in their music, meanings of lyrics, etc. That's what makes Tool Tool. It's a never ending adventure.
@@MrHunterbuchanan Yes, Tool is the smartest band, though Yes has equal credibility to be up there. I'm really just exaggerating as there are of course actual geniuses in music such as Brian May, Elton John, Michael Jackson, Tom Scholz, Simon & Garfunkel, Ke$ha, Dexter Holland and of course Wolfgang Amadeus Mozart. But very few bands actually incorporate such complex mathematics into music so well. Though Maynard likely is the one to have arranged the patterns in Lateralus, Danny Carey is largely responsible for the complex polymeters and polyrhythms found in their music.
This is one that it is about the build up. Tool is a group that you just ride the waves. Close your eyes and let their songs take you into your subconscious and let it wash over you. You will pick up different. Interpretations each song and each listen. They make you think. Their name is Tool because they make their songs to use as a tool to evolve yourself mentally and metaphysically to a spiritual but not in a religious manner as Maynard had a lot of problems with the way his mothers church had shunned her after she had a brain aneurysm and was paralyzed. It made him question the beliefs.
I’ve said this over and over. I’m extremely envious of people that are just discovering Tool! And, you’re taking a HUGE leap for listening to “The grudge “ as you’re 3rd Tool song. There are 20 songs you should’ve listened to first. Enjoy the ride bro. Tool is on another level.
saturn comes round every 30 years.. the song is basically saying grudges are childish and you need to choose to grow and let them go or they'll consume you and you won't grow time will go on but you'll be stuck being the same childish person holding grudges.
JoJo. Tool is a band that you will grow with. Over time and as you experience more in life, so will your understanding of their music, the messages will resonate in new ways, epiphanies are inevitable....it is a journey. Blessed to have you join us 💜
Listening to TOOL= homework. I fell in love with TOOL when I started doing the homework and realized that they are a world above the rest! TOOL helped open my (third) eyes and mind. Truly a work of art. Spiral out!
Great reaction bud. Don't worry about the lyrics. There is so much to listen to just with the instrumentation,. You can listen to the lyrics on a 2nd listen. It's clear you love the instrumentation. Focus on that. The Tool army can fill you in on lyrics. Keep the Tool coming bud. Would love to see you react to Invincible by them. Cheers!
If you read up a bit on the lead singer's history, it does help understand the lyrics a little bit better. Not gonna lie, even I don't always understand what he is referencing. The most important thing, I think, is that you're catching the vibe of the music and appreciating it. And everything is open to interpretation anyway.
Not comparable 😳 at all. We shouldn’t compete them, if u know what I mean. Seeing them as hole and what the spirit and intellect of us puny humans can achieve if we choose to.
I love how around the 6 minute mark man's just turns it all the way up, and you can see the music just washing over his soul and bringing him pure joy.
I’m new to these reaction channels. Anyone else think it’s a beautiful thing to share our respective music with others who are unfamiliar with it? I kind of love it!! Thanks for your reaction…this band really is on a different level.
Saturn has multiple meanings. One is that Saturn takes 30 years to revolve around the sun, and depending on where Saturn is the gravitational pull can bring you up or down (and that we should be aware when this is happening) Second, Saturn also refers to "karma" in astrology. So choosing to let go of our grudges leads to better karma.
Saturn is the god of time to the occult, and represents lead in alchemy. Saturn is the black sun of death, judgement, structure. The Saturn return is also 27.5 years btw. In that context the song is a gnostic view of reincarnation, literally and metaphysically. 'The one the ten' 'clutch it like a cornerstone' these are references to the black cube // masonry // time (kronos)
@@pneumarology4682 I personally associate Saturn with 'fauns and satyrs'. Saturn is the Greek equivalent to the Roman Bacchus, in other words; the god of sex, drugs, and rock'n'roll. Occult correspondences are complicated though...
@@vladtheinhaler93 the point here is that Maynard is conveying a specific point... Saturn is also the theme of 10,000 days. 10,000 days is the average orbital period of Saturn.
@@pneumarology4682 No doubt. You got me thinking, so I had a flick through 777 and found this: "Saturn whose indigo represents the sobriety and deep-sea calmness of meditation". Kind of goes against my Bacchanalian interpretation, but seeing that indigo can represent sobriety should have import to any Tool fan!...
@@vladtheinhaler93 well... it does not represent that in the song // to the el-ite (Saturn is EL). Not only is Maynard singing about letting go of negativity but esoterically he's singing about humanity is stuck within the cycle of time (Saturn the god of time, death, the grim reaper) say-ten. The synagogue of say-ten (the time keepers), and humanities self inflicted bondage. In Reflection Maynard writes about the moon and it's role in reincarnation / saturn etc
I love your innocent reaction to Tool. They are very intricate and are known to use mathematics,(the fibonacci sequence,etc) in the making of their songs. Just wait until you start your trip down the Pink Floyd rabbit hole.
Wasn't expecting my comment to be the first thing popping up in the video. Glad you listened though. It's a song that sneaks up on you. Its a longer song, has a slow build, then a big jab, then a slowdown, then it comes through with a haymaker. To be fair, I did warn you about the scream lol Such a good ebb and flow of a song. Tool's good at that. If you want something that is HEAVY and POWER the whole time, look at something like Gojira. "Heaviest Matter of the Universe" is basically what it must feel like to punch the universe in the face.
I liked and subscribe. Nice reaction bro, and good luck with the channel. TOOL is amazing, and eye opening. It helps you realize that most of your hate and negativity comes from within. Good stuff man.
I'm so envious of you, being able to listen to this band for the first time. I would love to see you listen to Pushit, either version is great, but the live version from the Salival album is so well done, you forget it's live. Maybe both?
Tool is one of the most, if not the most musically talented and cerebral bands you will ever hear. The meanings of the songs can get as deep as the Mariana Trench. They get into deep philosophies, spirituality, and views of life in general. It takes this band anywhere from 3-13 years to put out their next album.
Thanks agagin for another Tool reaction Jojo, first of all the guy last time who said:If you liked the scream in this, wait till you listen to the Grudge. He was refering to the 20+sec scream not the song itself.I love Grudge though. As with all Tool songs everyone can take the meaning of the lyrics as he wants. To me this one is about holding grudges, and letting them go in the end, cause there is nothing positivie coming out of holding a grudge forever in the end. At the beginning it is about people who hold the grudge against someone and go around the world letting everyone know---Wear the grudge like a crown of negativty. And at the second verse it is about how someone who is holding a grudge doesn't want to let it go, because if he does then the grudge is gone, and to him it may feel, like he was in the wrong for holding onto it. So he doesn't want to let it go----Clutch it like a cornerstone, otherwise it all falls down. And lyrics relating to Saturn are most probably of Astrological meaning. Because....I might be wrong, but a human body replicates all cells in about 7 years, so every 7th year you are a new person. And a lot of things or change happen every 7th year in people lives. And Saturn takes about 30 years to travel round the Sun, so every 30 years in a humans live you are at the start point again...midlife crisis and so on, well maybe. Well whenever a opportunity comes to change you should let the old grudges go. And at the end. Give away the stone, let the waters take and transmutate those leaden grudges into gold, it means to me...to just let go of the grudge. Grudge is like a heavy stone, or burden you always have with you. So let that go and transmutate those leaden grudges into gold. As lead is know that it's a very heavy metal you would get shitloads of gold for it ;D. Well get rid of the negativity and then let positivity in again. lead and gold ;D That's my take. And Jojo, I'd suggest Right in Two, Vicarious or Aenima as next Tool song. They are pretty straight forward in my opinion. PS:Oh and if you like long screams, check out Linkin Park:Given Up 2007 Rock Am Ring. And sorry for my non-perfect English.
The Grudge is awesome. Hard punch you in the face is in their earlier albums. Heavy and brooding is from the Undertow album. "Bottom" "Flood" "Sober" & "Swamp Song". Saturn is 27 years around the Sun. The time his mother was in wheelchair. This is the Grudge he has to let go. You might try "Jimmy" Pusifer's "Judith" "Wings for Marie" & then "10,000 Days". This is his letting his mother go after her passing. It will make the albums more clear.
Saturn rising an coming back around is a reference to planetary movements and the never ending passage of time and that as we age we need to learn to let go of grudges. The climax at the end with the scream and the lyrics "let go, let it go" symbolize learning to and actually letting go of grudges. At it's core the song is about personal growth and maturity. Band Members are Maynard James Keenan on vocals, Danny Carey on drums, Justin Chancellor/Paul D'Amour on Bass, and Adam Jones on Guitar. Keep in mind they write their lyrics with a certain ambiguitity so that every person can interpret them their own way.
Love that you are honest and not ashamed that you don’t know the lyrics meaning. We need more honesty in this world, and we will gladly explain for you. No cap
Top tip: you’re not meant to get most of their songs first listen. Or better to say you can’t. They grow, change as you do. Some have several simultaneous meanings, some are purposefully ambiguous. Most are precise but require much unpacking of Maynard’s metaphors and allegorical references. I still get new things each listen and I’ve been a fan a long while. This was a great reaction vid, as they go. You’re a pretty funny guy. Edit: I would say you should just listen to the whole albums and film it all. Can release them in episodes and as the full for your monetising benefits; but most importantly that’s how they’re supposed to be experienced. The songs aren’t individual, they come as a set. The mood carries and changes through, and you’re invited on that journey.
Lol I love it! Don't think too hard about it kid I've been listening and seeing them live for almost 30 yrs and I don't get plenty of the lyrics..bottom line is that lyrics mean different thing to different people and Tool rules!
Cool reaction! I watched your reaction to the Pot first and really liked how you lost yourself in the music. Plus you mentioned the scene in the matrix where neo dodges bullets and that's one of my favorite films plus I happen to be wearing a t-shirt of this exact scene (no shit). Needless to say, subbed. You are very correct when you say that Tool's lyrics deserve to be studied. You asked, so here is my breakdown of the Grudge: Saturn is traditionally the god of boundaries, limitations, divisions, etc. Interestingly, Saturday is named after Saturn and it plays an important role in astrology too. There seem to be astrological implications in the song, but I won't go into this. "Saturn comes back around" is alluding to Saturn's influence over you, in this case through a grudge that you hold over someone. The Grudge is a weakness that you have and the basic message of the song is to "let go" of it. I think the beginning lyrics perfectly sum up this situation of a person who holds a grudge: Wear the grudge like a crown of negativity [you walk around proud of your grudge] Calculate what you will (and) will not tolerate [you have figured out exactly how much shit you're willing to take] Desperate to control all and everything [this describes your situation, herein lies your weakness] Unable to forgive your scarlet letterman [again, your situation: you cannot forgive so you hold the grudge. reference to the "Scarlet Letter" by N. Hawthorne] and here: Clutch it like a cornerstone [you hold on to your grudge as if it's your cornerstone, i.e. the piece without which a building will fall] Otherwise it all comes down [what you think will happen if you let go of your grudge] Justify denials and grip 'em to the lonesome end [you live in denial until your lonesome end, grim stuff here] The idea is actually simple: holding onto grudges will get you nowhere and only causes you to suffer. The end of the song illustrates the process of letting go of the grudge. This is in the part you asked about transmutation. Maynard compares your grudge to lead and describes turning it into gold. "Transmutation" is the process of changing one thing into another. Ever watch Fullmetal Alchemist? what? oh, never mind. Anyways, in ancient times people tried to turn different metals into gold, since gold is the most precious metal. Lead was considered to be a common metal. Interestingly, as we know now, lead is also poisonous. So the metaphor is turn your poisonous lead (your grudge) into gold (something of great worth). Tool's lyrics can be very deep. This is not one of their deepest songs IMO but there is a lot of cryptic language that makes it hard to understand if you are unversed in some of the concepts or references. This is done on purpose. If you really want to understand their lyrics, keep reading them and dig deeper. Of course, everything can be interpreted in many ways and this is certainly true for Tool. However, I feel that the general message of the Grudge is pretty straightforward. I really like Maynard's final yell in this song. To me it represents the process of getting over your grudge, it's like the intensity of your most fucked up grudge condensed into half a minute. The final line, "let go," is repeated over and over again as the intensity of the music continues to build into a crescendo from out of this world. The musical interlude after the final "LET GOOOOOOOO" to me feels like the sweet liberation you get after freeing yourself from the Grudge, it is your gold that you have transformed from lead. Hope this sheds some light. PS I think it's a good idea to ignore the lyrics on first listen as you suggested so that you can just take in the entire song. In this sense, I preferred your reaction to the Pot. It was just pure, uninterrupted reaction of someone hearing the music for the first time, which is what I came for. It is so cool watching someone listening to a song you know and love and just thinking: "you feelin this?" or "but are you fucking ready for what's comin?" etc. Cheers
The song references the Saturn Return - Saturn's orbit or position in the sky returns to the same spot every 29.5 Years. It begins "Accending" to its position around 27.5 Years(~10,000 days). Saturn has an influence of bringing you into the next chapter of life (spits you out like a child). Most agree that you really don't become an adult until you are about 30. And each Saturn return has a significant impact on your life. (Hang on or be humbled again) Saturn comes back around to show you everything Let's you choose what you will not see and then Drags you down like a stone or lifts you up again Spits you out like a child, light and innocent Saturn comes back around. Lifts you up like a child or Drags you down like a stone To consume you till you choose to let this go Choose to let this go The song embodies truly growing up and learning what's important in life. Tough and humbling experiences where you come out on the other side of it like a child in a new life.
I've been listening to since 1992. tool can take you down a rabbit hole that will make you question yourself and everything around you. I started listening when I was 18 also keep listening it will make you a better person.
I so love watching yourreactions!!! They are priceless! I still want to adopt you lol Pretty sure I'm the only person requesting this. PLEASE check out Savatage...... Song is Chance. Based on a true story of a man saving Jewish people from death. Knowing the truth helps understand their lyrics. The instruments are phenomenal! You don't have to post it, obviously. But you have covered so many bands, like Rush, who tell a story through music.
"Leaden" as in made of Lead, the metal. It's a metaphor. The Leaden Anchor, this heavy grudge that drags people under the water. If one can let that go, or better yet, transmute that leaden, heavy anchor into gold, then you're turning something that drags you down into something valuable.
And do bear in mind these men are 3x your age. So they indeed have a lot of life experience between them. And they were smart to begin with. No other modern mainstream rock band can hold a candle.
Saturn is commonly used to reference a period of change it evolution in life. The song is referencing how the person they are talking about is being offered the chance to grow/change/evolve every time Saturn comes, but they are continuously thrown back down and humbled instead of being lifted up because they refuse to let go of the grudge they have. It's an overall great message in the song about letting go of hate that is weighing yourself down and preventing you from growing in life. Like he says, choose to let it go. Leaden is referencing the stone he's telling them to give away (the grudge), meaning he's saying the grudge is as large as a stone or anchor that this person is just dragging around and it is weighing him down because it is leaden (made of lead).
The word you were looking for was "suspenseful". Tool are masters at building suspense through a whole bunch of methods including a little bait and switch here and there. I like watching first time Tool reactions to see if and when people realise that the drums aren't as easy to head nod to as you initially think.
First you have to understand that he speaking to himself about himself. Then you can understand the meaning of the songs. Saturn is a Astrological reference, Saturn comes around every 27 or 28 years. If you’re into astrology, they say it brings change.
Do identical twins have identical personalities? Saturn refers to Cronos. Look up Francisco Goya's depiction of Saturn, and you will be surprised to find that song is much more literary than you realized. Astrology. How long before that shit gets old?
@@EKDupre First of all, the Greek god Saturn was named after the planet. He was the god of the harvest. Kronos was a titan, father of Zeus. Zeus Imprisoned him. How does that line up with the grudge?
This song is about letting go the grudge, overcoming it by letting go. The lyrics have lots of alchemy analogies (stone, led, gold, kissing of the waters, the return of Saturn, etc.)
Tool is very unique in arrangement, timing and lyrics. You can and have appreciate the music and not quite capture the intention of the lyrics. That's ok, for most fans it takes a few listen to, to attempt to capture understanding. Most conceptual bands does take life experience to empathize. I think that's why these bands have loyalty and longevity, they grow with you.
Tool is so good because until the very end you don't get the full aspect... Do "Right in Two" lyric video... You won't be disappointed. By far one of my favorites
This was the first album I ever purchased with my own money. Hearing them on Guitar Hero made me realize I needed to dig in. The first time I ever heard this song was a massive explosion in my head.
The orbital period of Saturn is just over 10,000 Days, which is the approximate length of time Maynard's mother was sick before she passed (note the title of their next album). The "Grudge" he was holding was referencing his anger at the world for watching her deteriorate, and he had a choice to either let it go or let it consume him.
The meaning of the song is simple in that we as humans tend to fall victim to our own grudges and refuse to let things go. It can pull us down like a stone unless we surrender our anger. It's the symbolism in the song relating to the gravity of Saturn that makes you think.
Scarlett Letter Man refers to a book by Nathaniel Hawthorne. Yes, it takes some research, living experience on this beautiful Globe we are on, and growing to then never really understand what Maynard is getting at. Remember, the name of the band is TOOL, maybe use it as such for a tool to expand your understanding of the Universe, your/our place in it, and grow/evolve.
"Saturn ascends, choose one or ten". People used to say Saturn ruled the 'tenth' house, and so when he ascends you are presented with a choice of 1 (choosing a new life/path) or 10 (continuing in your ways), and so Maynard is using that to describe the choice we have of letting anger consume us, or to let it go.
Yo, my dude... you gotta close your eyes and open your third eye when you listen to Tool. Read the lyrics after you listen. Just focus on absorbing the music and vocals. Pick up what lyrics you can, but I promise you'll enjoy their music even more if you don't distract yourself by trying to read along with lyrics. Enjoy the journey!
Brother. Its all about the lyrics. Ask the right questions for the meanings and Tool fans with explain the brilliance of the lyrics. I friggen adore these lyrics
Ahhh...you are starting to open your mind to progressive music styles my man! tool is a genre of its own just like messhugah is.. So my request is that you watch Messhugah - break those bones whose sinews gave it motion
Saturn (Cronus in greek myth) is a Roman god and the mythology is he tried to eat his child Jupiter (Zues) but was tricked into eating a stone instead.
Appreciate you trying to analyze the lyrics, but sometimes you just need to sit back and enjoy the ride. So jealous of people hearing this band for the first time!
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