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Great video! I've always loved parkour/freerunning and was actually more interested in doing that than tricking when I first started doing flips. But I lived in the countryside at the time and didn't have access to many things outside of the forest haha. Then I made some friends that were trickers so that's kind of what took my attention for the next 13 years haha.
just watched your video "Message for truth seekers, protesters, spiritualists.." have you considered at any time to read some actual science while your "soul searching" ? i saw you was against the masks and it only taken learning how to disease spread to learn it can help people. Preying, meditating or smiming in a lake wont do fuck all. maybe consider some science as part of your journey. broaden your horizons.
i think the reason parkour is so much bigger than tricking is because to the everyday person parkour is it's own distinct thing. tricking is often mistaken for martial arts, gymnastics, breakdancing, and of course parkour. u mentioned parkour being featured in james bond. you could also integrate tricking into movies like in fight scenes but it'll just be seen as martial arts
Great video, really enjoyed this one. Both tricking and freerunning are incredible sports, and like you said although they are very different, they do overlap and can compliment each other. In my earlier years of tricking it was almost trendy for us to take the mick out of freerunners and for them to joke about us too (even though we were all mates) where as now when I look at it, I have mad respect for freerunners, they do some mental stuff that I wouldn't even dream of doing, nerves of steel. I think its funny when you speak tricker to freerunner and you realise the stark difference in comfort zones despite the athletic capabilities being very similar. Personally I wish I had gotten into freerunning a bit more alongside my tricking.
Nice video, cant give enough props to Kojo’s Trick Lab either, Kojo literally made the ideal platform to make it as easy as possible to learn tricking. The two disciplines blend together pretty well, despite being separate. I don’t think BMX’ers are worried about race cyclists taking over their sport, same with vert and street skaters. 2 sides of the same coin, I’m a tricker but most of the people I train with are freerunners, it’s fun to switch it up every now and then.
Id say bmx and freestyle mtb are a better comparison as we watch each others’ content and take huge inspiration from each other for our tricks, though its mostly from bmx to mountain biking as they are the older sport. But I couldn’t agree more with your message.
I really have to vouch for Kojo's Trick Lab here. It's really an incredible platform by people who truly love the community and want to see it grow in skills and size. They took me from barely landing doublefull to stomping triples and dub swing dubs in under a year!
Upvote if you like this idea: really looking into the training routine and diet of great athletes. How often do they train? How much additional weight training? What kind of exersices? Warmup routine? Diet? Their approach to training and the sport in general? etc... I think there is much to learn for everyone.
@@hendrkweiss I know that's one of the reasons why I came to this idea. I know not everybody does it but a lot do so. Everyone is diffrent but it would be great to take inspiration and wisdom from athletes :)
@@philippbrecht4501 I always dread this question because I do what is considered the worst. I eat quite a lot of junk food, mostly fruity candy, soda and taco bell. But its not just my diet... I never warm up when I train. Usually I just out of the blue I need to get some energy out so I jump out of my desk and pop out 2-3 sets of gymnastics ring routines with maybe a little straight arm weight lifting or handstand hold/press/pushup work. Oh yeah and my general approach to training, is best said by Shia LaBeouf with a "JUST DO IT" whenever I find myself pondering the quantity of reps of "the basics" the pros have gone through. Like idk about other people but I have managed to progress quite a lot by simply getting in repetitions and proper practice, since I really don't think my diet at least has been helping me in my training process.
I trained freerunning pretty exclusively for about 5 years, but have been focusing on tricking more heavily the past 2 years. I still go out freerunning occasionally and I have really seen how tricking has helped me improve in that regard. I feel more confident, my transitions are better, i’m more creative, and I generally have more fun freerunning than I did before. They definitely go hand in hand. A good trucker will probably be a good free runner and vice versa.
I've always preferred the more smooth A to B lines in runs, over ones with loads of flips that slow down the run, a little flair is nice, but lots of flips going over and over the same wall or pole always looked a bit superfluous to me, but that's just me
In general I don't like flips or tricks at all, but seeing people use rotation and flipping to produce more efficient ways of moving through terrain....that is great. 👍
Brooo that's exactly me, the kid who was doing flips in his trampoline that discovered nicoflow on Instagram and that decided starting tricking/freerunning lmaaaaaao I'm literally that example
having these three pillars of "underground" movement sports (parkour, freerunning, tricking) will lead people to live the modern ninja life we all love
We need an episode about "flippers"! People like FliplikeZ or Tanner Witt or Soloflow who don't really restrict themselves to one school of movement, doing insane stuff from gymnastics, tricking, and parkour while usually tagging their posts as all 3. They've been getting even more popular than they were before on platforms like instagram and I really do wonder what your opinion of their effect on PKFR is.
I guess when you combine gymnastics, tricking and parkour, you end up getting some creative freerunning. I guess they go by “flippers” than restricting their flips to any one category
@@SuperScraper123 yeah i agree I just call myself a "flipper" too, because I hate calling myself a gymnast lol and i do tumbling/tricking/freerunning/gtramp/everything flips lol
I started tricking in 1999 and back then it was 100% martial arts based. Now it's more of an extreme sport. I got into parkour ten years later partially due to my background in martial arts/tricking. What attached me to both was the social/community aspect of the activities but in the end parkour seemed more 3 dimensional. I really like how you interact with the environment. Not taking anything from tricking though it'll have my respect and love for the rest of my life and I still practice on a lower level than I used to.
I am a tricker but I do train with a group in Luton who you have trained with many times before (japanimation). I like both! I’m more of a tricker than parkour however I appreciate both and when I’m out training with the parkour lads I like to learn new parkour techniques. Do vlogging if you wanna have a look👍🏻 Love the video man keep it up!! 💯❤️
The thing I'm most proud of is that I'm a Tricker. I'm a pure Tricker and will always be one, but I have huge respect for the sport freerunning and I absolutely love the way freerunning can be used to express oneself. I believe the two sports will co-exist and be seen as two separate sports in the future. I'd say Freerunning and Tricking is a family, different branches with the same tree. I can't wait to see how both the sports will develop in the future.
I want a video about gymnastics trying to take over parkour. you just threw that in at the end but that seems like a whole nother topic. great video as always.
Started with tricking, went to parkour, then back to tricking Because I hate heights. Also still hate it when somebody says do you do parkour?! .............Last I checked I wasn’t on a roof
I absolutely LOVE the freedom of movement and creativity brought by tricking, and I likewise LOVE the simplicity and flow of pure parkour. Work smarter not harder combined with working harder to be creative and stylish while continuing the flow of a line is in my opinion why the world of parkour/freerunning/tricking is almost all as one. Everyone can share their knowledge and everyone can learn something new and fresh and exciting, and as these athletes from different "denominations" of expressive movement continue to innovate, it will keep the "religion" of parkour/freerunning/tricking alive and evolving forever.
Tricking is cool but I’d be kind of sad if parkour developed into just doing a million flips back to back instead of getting from point to point in the fastest way possible
As someone who did both Free Running and Tricking, I was never mad at people building shit on the spring floor, what I hate is when people just walk aimlessly on it without looking. In my gym we had free runners, cheerleaders and trickers and it was never really a problem. Also I think it's kind of a case of little trash talk between friends. Much love to anyone who's either Tricker, Free Runner or Traceur (do people even identify themselves as Traceur....no idea, it's been a while since I trained Parkour)
Love this 💓 I think ive commented this a billion times already but... Can you do a video on ninjutsu and taihenjutsu? It shares many moves with both free running and parkour... And its common for ninjutsu practitioners to also do parkour...
I dislike the idea of tricking being confused with parkour, it's very different and it's annoying when people for example say they do parkour and then just flip about on grass.
So im not that good at math but here is my set of calculations (and also how i teach my students.) Freerunning = parkour + tricking Parkour = freerunning - tricking Tricking = freerunning - parkour
I don't like tricking alot, it feels like a waste of time, like the main core of parkour was getting from point a to b the most efficient way, and this just changes that term, i'll stick with the original parkour for now
As someone who grew up in a gym, and teaches parkour in a gymnastics gym, I love this video. The spirit of Parkour (as I see it) is that it can be done anywhere anyhow. Sure, training only in a gym all the time is not how it all started, and some may look down on that, but the point of Parkour isn't to be some hard ass who only counts certain things as "true parkour". Archie's name is all over this video and over the past few months he has been progressing a lot with the help of training indoors with crash mats and bouncy surfaces. The movement at the core of parkour is what matters, the progression and the journey of learning these new skills and being creative is with them is what we do, not try to define what should and shouldn't be allowed in the sport.
Nobody needs to worry about tricking taking over parkour. Tricking is not sustainable the way that parkour is. Flips/tricks put so much stress on the body that taking them out onto concrete and throwing them everywhere will wear an athlete's body out completely. These are high-impact movements that drive so much energy into the ground. Do I think it's worth it? Well yeah, look at the insane level of creativity that's on show nowadays. But also no, because if you're someone who never wants to stop doing parkour then you gotta be thinking long term. I'm glad Danny gets mentioned here because he's a prime example of someone who wore their body out barely into their prime. If you ever saw him sitting down then he'd be forever rubbing his knees because he said his knees were always sore. That level of talent burns itself to the ground when there isn't a foundation strong enough underneath it all. Concrete is solid af. Your joints are only temporary, they can only take so much. So yeah it's up to you if you wanna go full send all the time but if parkour is the kind of passion you want to carry long past your 20s then you need to think ahead and treat your body like you actually need it for that long. Remember that we're not like climbers or skaters who replace their gear once it wears out. Our body is the only piece of equipment we use in this discipline so spamming flips outside 24/7 might not be the best. Granted, there are athletes out there with so much residual strength and tolerance from years of conditioning but I don't see any longevity for trickers who take their sport out onto concrete to make all these awesome lines
Thanks for the reminder, we needed to hear it 👌 It stings tho, when someone watches my videos and be like I want to see the freerunning, flips, the danger, this is not impressive. I'm doing a 6ft continuous precision onto a 6inches wide ledge over a 2ft deep gutter with dirty water in it!! Do you think its easy?! 😤 They do 😒 🚶🚶🚶
@@stanleyezepk Much respect bro the grind sounds real. Never stop hunting down those challenges! Flips will always cool, but handrails and scary landings are holy ground. Much love from Scotland my friend 👌
We all one big family, we might fight and bicker every once and a while but we're all fueled by our love for movement and definitely can learn more from each other.
If you watch Jesse la Flair you can tell he used to roller skate, it’s mixed in with his movement, it’d be interesting to see people adopt his style a little bit
This is exactly the type of vid that I was hoping you'd create. Really enjoyed watching this. I've been tricking since early 2000, but I've allways loved watching parkour and freerunning
Thank you so much for making this!! People need to realize that evolution is what keeps an art form like parkour going! I mean the whole basis of parkour/freerunning is to progress your own abilities, so why are we so afraid of people who progress in their style? In my eyes, the more niche types of movement that are introduced into parkour only allow for more people to come into the sport like you said, and will also provide the people who prefer more traditional types of parkour a growing audience who discover them and appreciate what they can do.
ye, i like your conclusion. as we talked about in the philosophy discussion, it's important to teach everyone starting out the importance of caring for their body and being mindful with their training, but what they do after the basics is their own decision to make. I'm a PK coach at heart, but if my kids wanna learn crazy flips, i make sure i can support them and teach them, because what's most important, is to keep people moving. Nowadays, i support training just for fun a lot more. Even though disciplined training can be fun too, it's just not for everyone. My own two cents: I draw the line (a blurry one at best) between tricking and PKFR, by how much use is made of obstacles. Honestly, most of what nico does (at least in the clips in this video, fits more into tricking i think, even though it's not on sprung floor. Mikesh, KIPA, Gefam and other PKFR youngsters use their environment much more (and more diverse environment at that, not just flat ground and flat walls). E: forgot to mention. i don't draw any line on a per athlete, but on a per run basis.(drawing a line sounds a bit harsher than i mean, but it's midnight and i don't know a better word for it) and honestly anyone who can't appreciate a highly skilled athlete between any of these forms of movement can suck a smelly one.
To me tricking seems more like a dance, parkour is about gaps and jumps.....I loose interest when theres dance moves thrown in to a gap runs. (I'm a complete outsider on both and follow neither)
We got expression that one tricking session doesn't count as gay and after three the count resets. Anyways, even if tricking is a danger to parkour then what we can do? We've been in the place where unnecessary reverse or just flip (unnecessary by default) was criticised and author was asked to change video name from parkour to freerunning xD I was one of those guys but... XD
I just have to stop and comment how freaking right you are about Danny. I was in the parkour vs free-running debate for a good couple years when I started and was a ‘purist’ and wouldn’t care for free running. But he literally showed me movement can be free and flips can be parkour the only definition is how you train and how you perceive it. I owe him a lot and more than just how he inspires me to move. Everything is choice.
If parkour becomes boring, it's not the sport, but your lack of imagination. I recommend the video "Parkour, imaginatively" and also its video description for more info on what I mean. A friend who has done parkour for 18 years at this point still always finds new interesting challenges, even though he trains 3 times per week. And that with barely any flips. He almost never does them. And still, parkour is exciting for him. Only your mind is the limitation.
Greetings and Salutations Is tricking "guard"? I got into freerunning because of the duplicate sessions with parkour It's jungle gym based 💪 Good luck thanks 😊
Of course even tho the new movement is the most gorgeous it has been in years (in my opinion) .. i was still more impressed by danny short story and movement. As always haha. It will never ever get old.
I feel no matter what happens, the sport is going to involve whether people like it or not and it's just one of those things that have to happen. But I will say, it's best to educate what parkour was like before this all happened so that way it won't be forgotten.
Trickers are doing parkour because 2 years of tricking is like 10 years of parkour flips 😂 it's a shortcut to be the instant best freerunner. Look at yoloflow7 on ig
First off love ur vids. Second, How is turning parkour/freerunning into tricking evolving tho? The point of parkour/freerunning is to get from point AtoB in the quickest way possible, or to escape. Trickings just looking cool. Don't get me wrong certain flips in parkour/freerunning are useful, but to many of fancy or showy moves defeat the purpose of point AtoB in the quickest way possible. AKA Parkour or Freerunning.
Bilang and TricksTutorial were the real mvp. This and I remember a few people had privates servers where we hosted stuffs that were not on either places.
I'm eating some of my previously published words here. Trust Jimmy to do this yet again! From a movement standpoint tricking is too close to gymnastics in my opinion -- far more explosive, etc. but still controlled body-only movement with scorecards in the future 9.5 or 7.24. __BUT__ I had never seen the martial arts tie-in which suddenly made the whirling aspect make so much more sense. Tricking stripped the purpose of martial arts and to remain interesting and evade the gymnastics scorecards will evolve. I'm just not a fan of the tricking with accidental parkour OR parkour lines that always end with a tricky flippy thing. I've gotten very excited with free runners who are working really hard at switching the momentum of their lines. Need to see more of these videos!
I love the video, but I'm sad to see nothing from Martial Club has been showed even tho they have a very unique style of tricking. Also, nothing from Korean Tigers, who where responsible for much of the popularization of tricking. Then again, it's a video about parkour and tricking, not only tricking. Love ur channel!
1:06 This jump has got to trigger a deep philosophical debate. Edit: Actually, it may be pretty simple. It boils down to the simple fact, that for general public the word 'tricking' means nothing in particular. You may do tricks with pens, with a skateboard, with, dunno, bricks, with whatever you please. Tbh such a brilliant sport as tricking should've come up with a more creative name for itself.
I was already worried you wouldn't mention Archie Aroyan, because you almost used him for every clip. But he is a perfect example for Parkour and Tricking combinations. Love him !!!
It's just like the "Inline Skating vs Rollerblading" issue. People who know better, know better. It's useless to be frustrated at the uninitiated simply because they don't know better. If they want to get involved then you teach them. If not, don't care so much about their perception. Correct them "when necessary" but if it's just a casual conversation you overhear between ppl don't like go out of your way to express your disdain about them not understanding the difference. You may make yourself feel better, but tomorrow they're gonna go right back to calling it the same thing anyway! Lol It only matters if they have stake in it. Analogous issues go on in the martial arts community with the disputes over which fighting style is better, or what's ineffective, what this one is about, how Kickboxing and Muay Thai are different, how Capoeira and Wing Chun are fake, etc. Disputes over PC processors, videogame consoles, the age old anime vs cartoon dispute it's everywhere. But the takeaway once again: If they don't have any stake in it, it doesn't matter. You're not losing anything because my uncle calls you a free runner or my grandma calls you a tumbler or some doctor calls you an acrobat or gymnast etc. It may be frustrating that they don't share the same respect or appreciation. But truth be told, what we do ain't for everyone which is why it means something to us, right? We're all athletes at the end of the day.
In martial arts style are many times developed through the rule set. For example stance in Muay Thai, Boxing, wrestling and sport karate are very different, because you can do different things and score points in a different way. That makes you train different way and practise different things. Maybe there could be similar analogy to freerunning, parkour, tricking -world. The goal is different so you practise different things. Tricking is striking, parkour is grappling and freerunning puts it together like MMA. Does this make any sense? (In this analogy gymnastics would be sport karate.) I even see that the practise of bouldering could benefit the sport of freerunning.
Said it before. A guy who now has a big name in the industry once told me that not learning tricks for parkour was ‘pretty gay.’ Consequently, he gained his massive following with videos of fairly simple parkour related content 🤷🏽♂️
Tricking works in film, too. Look at Tony Jaa, Scott Adkins, etc, incorporating tricking into fight scenes. Even in Marvel movies you see Captain America doing corks and shit. I think Parkour caught on more because it looks more accessible to passersby. Every freerunner knows that thing where you're out training and then a random local kid or teenager starts copying you because they want to give it a try. If you see a guy in a field doing even a basic tricking combo it looks like "man, I could never do that"
OMG that is exactly what happened with me, I love trampolining and when I saw sachatheboss do stuff on the ground I wanted to learn that, then suddenly I came across STORROR and now I'm getting into parkour
For me as a sportive person who has zero abilities in any of the shown sports it's much easier to follow the movements and challenges of parcour. Overcoming obstacle with jumps and climbs is just much more natural and therefore easier to understand than those artful movements trickers do. That's why I clearly enjoy watching classic parcour the most. Anyway I don't mind a nice playful flip from time to time. ;)
Tricking is cool, but I dont want to see a gap or obstacle hit then just 5 continuous flips and twists on flat ground. Alot of clips are a lame ledge followed by a gymnastics routine 🤷♂️ People that do crazy flips throughout a line are dope though
Very interesting as always mate! But there are a few things I would like to say. It's not an answer, just an opinion. I've been training parkour for almost 12 years, and I always considered myself as a 'purist' (i'm not sure this is the right term in English, but i think you'll get it haha), but that doesn't mean that I consider tricks or flips a bad thing for the sport. I really enjoy the lines that people as Archie Aroyan or Nico do, but as much as i love watching them doing it, I don't feel the same when it comes to me. I have no interest whatsoever in doing this kind of movement because I just enjoy every second of my 'pure' parkour training. And no, i do not get tired of it at all haha I don't know, I just love doing a kong-precision, for example, the best way i can and improving in that matter. And, after all, if we take the most basic definition of pakour, leting aside other things like wether is parkour or not doing a side between jumps, parkour is just moving and being able to see new moving posibilities, and that lets a lot of options for everyone in the sport.
I love Parkour and I love Tricking. I think this new Hybrid-Style mixes the two Sports together so well. The lack of running is awesome. These non interruptet move chains are sick as f*
No no. It's not a joke. As a person that hasn't practiced either I can tell you from an outside perspective that Parkour is indeed cooler than tricking. That doesn't make tricking uncool though. It still looks really cool.
for me it goes like this Parkour: no need for flips, or tricks, with obstacles just do the parkour vibe like 3:35 Freerunning: a mix of parkour and tricking, with obstacles which is like the video at 6:50 Tricking: all tricks, flat ground no obstacles.
It kinda did already in some places In my last parkour gym ( school building with a lot of wooden obstacles ) like 95% of the hall was blocked with mats and ppl were flipping, they would sometimes do 1-2 vaults and end every run with a side flip When I went out for training with another group they pretty much ignored all spots, went for a playground and did flips into the sand all the time It kinda sucks for someone like me that loves parkour but sees no reason to ever do flips, I like finding a way, overcoming obstacles and seeing my environment with different eyes and kinda adapt to it Flipping down from stuff to look as cool as possible just isn't what I find interesting but I'm becoming one out of very few that still actually do parkour rather then tricking in my area which sadly means I have to train alone mostly
I agree 100%. Even if you don’t personally feel connection with a new style, censoring it isn’t going to help anyone. If you want your style to live on, go get famous, no ones stopping you. But don’t try to stop others from spreading their style. Parkour, and action sports/the arts in general are a positive sum world, you don’t get anything by taking something away from others.
