This argument "Ukraine has put its best troops in Kursk, while it was actually better to deploy them in Donbass" is utterly wrong. Troops that take part in Kursk offensive are highly trained spec ops. It is actually stupid to put them in Donbass trenches bombarded by glide bombs, where they can't realize their full potential.
better check your information first.. units in kursk are interviewed and it is confirmed that they are pulled from other fronts.some territorial defense forces are also there. ukraine is also known to sacrificed elite unit in some battles or offensives that expert warned not strategic like the marine units sent across river in kherson that they later abandoned there are also other instances that elite units are left surrounded or badly hurt in other battles.
In the Kursk region the Ukranians can use their advantage of modern tanks, in Ukraine its a very static front with very little gains to make. This is totally the move to go for.
Its not so much that they are spec ops its that they are units specialized in breakthrough. Mechanized and motorised brigades that are meant to be shoved through a gap in the lines to create pockets and take territory. With that in mind, they are more use in this configuration than they are in static trench warfare, as you said.
i think this is quite misleading as russia have moved at least 10 to 20k troops to the region to try and stop the advance, yeah it’s a mix match but to say they haven’t responded or reacted is wrong
also it’s not that putin could’ve used conscripts this whole time, after the afghan war there was a law passed in russia that only let conscripts be used on the territory of russia to prevent the uproar of losing them that happened during Afghanistan
Winter is coming, this should be interesting. In past years Russia intentionally tried to cause suffering in Ukraine during winter. Now their gas pipeline and energy production are in the adversary's hands.
Hes one of those smart guys who believe everything media says even when media have no idea wtf they are tslkin about... winter is coming anyway ukraine wont advance as much as zrkensky says... everything will get very muddy very doon russia will hsve easy time in the mud ... 😅 @@baha3alshamari152
Yeah, and once the war is over the Russians would arm everyone with long range weapons to target western homelands, and boy there would be plentiful takers. Let's just do away with MTCR for Ukraine to strike Russia 😂. Sow as you shall reap
@@user-ld2ox3ml9tHe didn’t launch nukes through every other bs redline he’s given, and hasn’t nuked Ukraine for actually invading and occupying internationally recognized Russia territory. If he won’t nuke them for that, he DEFINITELY won’t nuke the west for simply giving to go ahead for Ukraine to use their new weapons however they please
That was truer when Ukraine was pushing them back, but Russia is advancing. This is a race to the bottom, and the winner gets there last. Russia has a lot of conscripts that if they started training them, it could pose a real threat to Ukraine. Also, think of every missile attack Russia wasted on civilian targets. If they focus on military objectives, that will also hurt Ukraine more. The US elections have done so much to hurt Ukraine as Biden doesn't want to upset the US public by doing too much and tilt the election in tRump's favour.
@La_Plata-u2f They suffered the most amount of losses in ww1and ww2. They lost the Ruso-Japanese war, and got humiliated. They barely won (on paper) the winter war against Finland, and the small amount of land that they grabbed, the Fins took back afterwards. They lost ww1, fighting against the Germans. They lost the Polish-Russian war of 1921, and it was a humiliating defeat. They lost Moscow to Napoleon, only got saved by winter itself. They almost lost ww2 vs the Germans, only got saved by winter, again. The first Chechen war, was a draw, so they couldn't even beat a super small nation, and they signed for peace with 0 territorial gains. In the Georgian war, Russia won but they managed to lose almost as many men as Georgia did, while they had a 10 to 1 advantage. Russia sucked and still sucks at war. And there are other examples, but I don't know all the details, so I won't mention any.
@La_Plata-u2f Who is this "we" I am British Australian...Born in England, citizen of Australia. I am also pretty sure that South Koreans do not think they lost, because they are doing very well, and are well respected.... North Korea..... not so much.
Zelenksyy says he’s bringing the war to Russia, I don’t think displacing relatively impoverished Russians in border towns will do anything, Russians in Moscow are living just fine..
Russia has the capability to kick out Ukrainian from Russia, even with much loses on their side. But does Ukraine has the same capability to drive out Russia out of Ukraine? Russia is gaining to much now in Ukraine than before Ukraine entered Kursk
Russia had bridges in Kursk, Ukraine destroyed them. Russia got caught setting up pontoon bridges and Ukraine brought the rain on top of them from an explosion of steel ball bearings.
@@jsimsgt96 The interruption of electricity is targeted towards Russia's economy, civilians are a byproduct, not the target. War is hell, that's why it ought to be avoided if at all possible. Ukraine can't avoid war, now they have to take the war to Russia and target their industrial capacity. Tactics, training and equipment win battles. Logistics and the economy are what wins the war. Whoever has the most robust economy and the best logistics, usually has the decisive advantage. As Bill Clinton said in his presidential champagne, "it's the economy stupid." Slava Ukraine and Piss on Putin and his regime! Kick the shit out of Russia now and in the long-term they'll be better off.
The Germans occupied nearly all of western Russia on a line from Moscow to Stalingrad, yet that translated into very little strategic value. Tactical value yes, but not much else. Also, it's a liability if it prejudices other military operations or cannot be held
@@JonathanWrightZAHitler had Moscow in his sights but fcked around for a couple of weeks planning other hypothetical attacks. These tangents contributed heavily to Germany's eventual defeat.
@@ethancoster1324 That was Frans Halder. Not Hitler. Other generals wanted to ignore Moscow, which didn't have a strategic value anyway. Hitler needed oil, and that was where Stalingrad was relevant being on a Volga choke point. Germany would have lost anyway even if Russia had been knocked out. Perhaps Berlin would have become one of three nuked cities had that happened, or the socialist Nazi economy would have just collapsed. As it was, the Reichsbahn was barely functioning and Germany had a coal shortage, despite having tons of it just sitting at rail yards.
@@JonathanWrightZA Fair enough points. I'd have still taken Moscow and then made for the Caucasuses/Urals. A lot of Russia's industrial might was, if I recall correctly, near/behind the Urals.
Russia is responding, but they are not responding with a major transfer of forces. I believe that was only one of several reasons for the attack, as the political effects of the incursion can be high over time. The idea that the plan is "failing" would be better said as an aspect of the plan is likely not reaching a high potential, but a failure would indicate that the entire plan had only one single purpose. Also, they had trained personel and equipment for assault missions. Wasting that in trenches isnt a good deal if you can use them for other political manouvers like the Kursk incursion.
Im wondering if the reason Putin is still pounding Ukraine in the East and not pulling a large number of troops to repel Ukraine is because he has tied up 85% of the Russian army in the East and just CAN NOT stop Ukraine in Kersch, He is Desperate to have a big win in the east at all costs, BUT that will be his down fall !1 He is Obsessed!! Just like Hitler became !1
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Do you want Putler to divert troops from Donbass region, it's simple, instead of kursk push towards Moscow, you will see that they will divert troops very fast
They won't. Divert troops form active war zones but they will divert from other regions. Using defense positions. Defence means a 3 to 1 ratio in losses. Ukraine won't make it that far. Your can read about the same thing Wich happened in the American north south war.. in general what Ukraine is doing won't helpt them but it will speed up troop and material losses. And they are losing Europese support. The Germans are pulling back.
@@heriksuper6168 Nope were not pulling back. Dont forget that there is a lot of shit talk in the open but most things are decided behind the scenes and with a coverup story for the people. Olaf said a lot of things like "Germany will never..." and then we did it anyway ;) were all trying to look like we are not helping while helping in secrecy so the Russians dont know what comes next. Thats why the Ukrainians could do things like the HIMARS surprises or maybe the patriot surprises, same for alot of other weapon systems and ammunitions. Were also training them ...and the intelligence stuff ... etc pp Dont forget that Ramstein is here and a lot of nato-commando-infrastructure, radar, reconnaissance etc pp Were in it if we want it or not.
I (and lot of milbloggers on UA or RU side as well) have, call it a hunch, that Kursk offensive is just first step and what are other step(s) knows only Syrskyj and some very tight inner circle. Kursk offensive by itself is a big success. We're day 17 from start and Russia was not even able to fully stop expansion, let alone push back. Territorial gains are uncomparable (Russia to gain >1000km^2 in Donbass was grinding slowly more than a year with crazy losses). When compared Kursk offensive to Russian advances to Pokrovsk it's a bag of mixed feelings I admit. But as I said in the first sentence, it's very early for conclusions as I don't think that Kursk was some last desperate step or endgame, but rather something else is just yet to follow. We'll see. Glory to Ukraine!
and Ukraine is heavily attacking military targets in Crimea and fuel and airforce facilities in the border region. so it's obvious Ukraine is planning more than just this. it seems like the want to destroy Russia's ability to patrol the skies and their AA capabilities, this can only mean that Ukraine is planning to either increase their drone usage or use the newly arrived F-16's. also the continued attacks on supply lines to Crimea would suggest Ukraine is either trying to have the troops there be under supplied in such a way that troops will get moved out of there. or that Ukraine is planning to directly attack that area. the Kursk offensive has several possible goals. - pressure Russia into diverting troops from Ukrainian soil to retake their own land. - show the Russian people that their leader isn't the protector he claims to be. and show them their leader doesn't care about the people outside the main cities. - show Ukraine's donors that they still have the will and capabilities to fight on. - boost moral for the Ukrainian soldiers and citizens. - have something to offer Russia in return for the area's occupied by Russia. because Russian soil is (should be) worth more to Russia than Ukrainian soil.
And in the last three days Russia counterattacked and Ukraine's offensive proved useless. This was simply to show Western financial circles that they can punch Russia. They can. However they know they can't hold that territory.
And as a milblogger, you should know better. Giving faith to Kursk offensive is just wishful thinking. Eastern front is now weakened, while Kursk offensive stalls. And since you so quickly seem to forget about Krynky and Robotyne, perhaps Kursk offensive will finally open your eyes - this isn't the first time RU military allows penetrations (although they completely failed to stop this from happening and were taken by surprise), now frontline is established, all I can say is good luck to UA troops, you gonna need a lot of it.
Even if the kursk operation was intented as a distraction; but it seems to have enough force behind it that it it continues to be ignored it will become the main show.
because the only branch of the russian military that works as intended is the psy-ops who are working over time to make ukraine look like a losing aggressor and try to get certain individuals placed into power who themselves spend most of their time spreading misinfomation. basically one side of this war is entirely focused on changing narratives and they are good at it.
@@TheRealUsername No, no, surprise attack on border guards with zero combat experience, in very small numbers and taking barely defended area is a huge success (meanwhile Eastern front is moving daily, RU forces fight in a very contested and very fortified area and winning)... Nah, just be stupid and cheer for Krynky 2.0, that will bring the victory to Ukraine.
@@oo-xb6gv Ukrainians did welcome the Germans at first, then the racial extermination started up. The majority of Ukrainians sided with the soviets, after the initial invasion the nationalists who fought against the Russians who tried to genocide them in the Holodomr realized the nazis were the same thing and few German sympathizers remained.
Few thousands of poor rural people mostly pensioners in few villages in Kursk won't make Russians feel the war You need to at least get to Kursk city for that
Wrong, Zelynski wants more money for himself and an Oscar which by now he already deserves with his biggest acting role and the number of people he got into believing his propaganda.
Well, they're retreating now... Kursk Offensive literally failed. Their obj is PR, no further plan after Kursk made them stuck in the hole and advancing backward while Niu York also fallen
Honestly with the war in Ukraine, VisualPolitik is loosing a lot of credibility by only showing Ukraine's propaganda, when you comprare what they said months ago about the war compare to what was proven later i can trust your channel anymore as an honest information provider
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@@darthzackariusnickthenamethede I live in the one where my electricity prices just doubled. But I guess your parents didn't tell you that this happened.
The Russian constitution only permits nuclear attacks in defense of the Russian territory. Kursk is Russian territory, so.... I hope this does not open pandora´s box for all of humanity.
Russia sends entire convoys that get blown up by Himars, and armchair generals think that them resuming attacks in the pokrovsk direction is them "not reacting". I guess the Germans didn't respond to Dday because they launched attacks against the soviets around that time.
I had no idea we will go to Kursk (by the way, the prononciation is "oo" like in "book") and I have no idea what will it be further. When I realised they started the operation and that it wasn't ruzzian bs, I hoped they know what they're doing and I continue now. The thing is, Pokrovsk region was a hard place already, so the most we could've hoped there is to stay and not to let the enemy pass. On the other hand, in Kursk, they are gaining the terrain, pushing artilery further from Ukraine and doing much more one of which (even if not the most important one), but an important one nonetheless, showing to the locals what type on "nazi" they thought they're combatting. So hopefully, we'll achieve all of our goals there, whatever they are.
Not sure how much of an expert this fellow is on Russian/Eastern European military tactics and thinking, but good for him for caring and taking the time.
The Kursk nuclear power station runs 2 RBMK1000 reactors. The same as those at Chernobyl. Ideal to counter Russia's nuclear blackmail - the prevailing wind being from the west.
The worst mistake Russia can make would be to ignore the Kursk invasion. Controlling that area will allow Ukrainians to organize all sorts of flanking maneuvers against the battle lines in the north and gain even more ground, which in turn allows them to hit farther and farther away into Russian territory with HIMARS and other long range weapons.
Disappointed you didn't mention how a lot russia's resupply routes to the eastern and southern fronts has to go through Belgorod, and primarily through rail. While Kursk isnt the main hub, you can put a lot of of the rail lines that go from kursk to belgorod, in artillery and/or himar range in the kursk region. effectively cutting off that hub.
Honestly it is priorities. Probably to Putin and co, getting the entire Donetsk region and Pokrovsk under their control is far more important than Kursk. Even then there is no rush. They can afford to pull conscript and second line forces to bridge the gap and slowly wither down the Ukrainian forces in Kursk. If Pokrovsk falls, it is very easy for Russians to cut off the Ukrainians because it is on the T0504 highway. Meaning Kyiv can no longer easily supply troops on its Eastern front.
you make it sound harsh then you say compulsory / mandatory military service, its normal to have that, we in Sweden has it, and only had a 7 year period without. we have had it mandatory sense WW2. And yes we get prison time also if we avoid it. And also, if war breaks out in Sweden all men are forbidden to leave by law. Just like Ukraine has it.. This is normal rules in Europe. And no, we cannot bribe our way out of it as the Russians can if they have money.
I do not think the nuclear power station was in the pipeline and blowing up the sub-station could lead to the same situation as at Fukushima where power to the cooing system was lost. That would be insane.
I agree, the idea the power plant was a target was mostly made by militarily illiterate journalists, and I believe half that power plant is already shut down and the other half scheduled to go down in 2025, nothing like Fukushima, Chernobyl, or even three mile island is remotely in the cards.
Lots of words, but very little understanding of the military situation on the ground. It's laughable that you call the Kursk "incursion" likely a failure when it's Moscow's army that is getting mauled, cutoff, encircled, slow to react as though in a quagmire and is poorly trained, terribly undermanned, under-equipped & very poorly lead.
I think that the Barrier Troops would have a difficult time keeping the Frontline troops on the Front once they realize they are inside Russia instead of Ukraine. There are no minefields and signs denoting which city or village they enter.
Even when Russia doesn't relocate troops from Donbass, I'd assume no further supply will get there because new conscripts are sent to Kursk. So in Donbass they will still be weakened.
The Ukr incursion task force is very limited, so the success of the Kursk incursion is limited to aprox 15 by 20-30 kms spot. No major strategic point taken, but few villages of no significance. The nuclear power station and Kursk are well-defended and Ukr army never managed to reach to these points. Russian HQ could not be bothered with this small loss and only secondary manpower of conscripts was mobilized. Russian forces are making noticeable gains in Donbas and HQ does not move any substantial forces from that strategic direction. So the point of Kursk invasion was to draw manpower from Donbass, but this objective failed.
Invading Russia is like invading the ocean. And the cost is unbearable for Ukraine. And Russia is taking land freely in Ukraine. Russia benefits having the Ukrainian best forces else where. And Russia will take land back in Kursk. And it makes sense for Russia to let Ukraine make this mistake while they take the whole of Dombass.
That’s an issue if the troops are all poor people that means the overall public will not care, we would have that issue in America if it happened. They need high value targets
The Ukranians can hold until the Russians decide to counter attack, encircle the pocket and destroy everything in it. They made a grave mistake and it may well cost them the war. Russia has a pretty good track record fighting around Kursk throughout history.
You are sounding pro russsian now. What kind of dumb propaganda is this? Ukraine is succeeding very well. Putin is nervous af. Maybe wait a bit before reporting on something that is fresh and ongoing
Was ist dort in Raum Kursk, Dörfer und Landwirtschaft, während RUS den Donbass absichert und sich ausweitet. Um 1600 bis 2000 qkm zu besetzen bräuchte es 150 000 bis 200 000 Soldaten plus massives Equipment und nicht 15 000 Mann
@@wilhelmtell3427 So viel bräuchtest Du wenn jemand angreift aber nicht wenn Putin die letzten Wehrdienstleistenden zusammenkratzt um die Ukrainer aufzuhalten.
