Is your PC now Obsolete?? Let's set some things straight! 

When to upgrade: 1. When it stop working 2. Not meeting minimum requirements of new game/software you want to use 3. You just realize you are rich AF

here my dad still using gtx 1050ti and if I say that's obsolete his response is , "so are you"

The fact that I could double all the specs of my computer without breaking bank was a good indicator I needed an upgrade.

My PC is 8 years old (i7-4930k). The only thing I've done is upgrade the RAM to 32GB, Installed an SSD and a 1080ti. It runs all games at max or high detail settings. People get sucked in by marketing hype and benchmark results. The reality is, most old PC's if paired with enough RAM and a GPU will still feel fast.

When to upgrade: when you can’t play the games you want comfortably anymore.

If we both throw our PCs off a cliff, mine is just as fast as yours.

A pc is never obsolete, because it all depends on the software/games you are trying to use and your definition of playable

When thinking about upgrading ask yourself these questions 1. Does my current build run what i want to run 2. If i upgrade will i see any improvements that matter to me 3. What sacrifices am i willing to deal with to stick to my budget

Upgrade when you can’t play what you want at the settings you want something better will always be around the corner

"Just because something new comes out doesn't mean the old one gets slower" Apple:...

In another (more recent) video where you asked what kind of videos we'd like to see, I would LOVE to see you doing builds and benchmarks with so-called "obsolete" hardware that can be found in new old stock or used markets. I know you were in LTTs "Scrapyard Wars" so something similar to that but not necessarily in a competition format.

you're simply too damn good, professionally and as a regular guy too. such a necessary voice in tech media. thanks jay & team for the video

My mom had a new baby, I guess I'm obsolete now

Basically when ur computer is telling u “let me die bro” is when u should consider upgrading

I just had my eyes opened regarding older hardware. A friend built a new PC but couldn't get a gou at a decent price so I gave him a GTX 960 from ten years ago. It runs incredibly well. Far better than I would have expected from a card like that.

I want to see a video that diagnoses computer components in the perspective of finding out which component is the current bottle neck, as well as looking at software efficiencies that can be done.

It's only time to upgrade when your current system can no longer do what ever it is you mainly do at a level your happy with

Something is only obsolete if it is completely incapable of doing what you want it to do at an acceptable level

Still rocking my 3770k build I did back in 2013 when I first found your channel. Since then, I've upgraded the GPU and added an aio when I decided to overclock. Currently gathering parts for a new build, but for being 8+ years old this pc still does everything I need it to.

Just hoping that I'll be able to upgrade my 6 years old GTX970 which I had to reuse in my new build to anything somewhat recent and within economic range, SOON!

When Jay mentioned that 8 year old FX 8350 and DDR3, it was like he was talking to me personally.

"Old, not obsolete" - Terminator

Thank you Jay, I have a laptop 1050 and have enjoyed using it for years, and running integrated graphics before that, I'll be ready to upgrade when the times right and not out of peer pressure.

I so agree with you. I build my own computer and I love it since it does what I want.

I think videos like this one really show that Jay is interested in helping his viewers, not in satisfying the needs of manufacturers. No manufacturer would support this message, because they want people to buy as much of the newest stuff as they can. Thank you for being honest and showing you're primarily loyal to your audience.

I came to know if my PC is obsolete. But, instead, I learned a valuable life lesson. No lie.

Jay you and your team are great. Always letting us know when we need to pump the breaks and stop impulse buying. I signed up for the evga list for an rtx3080 ftw back when the cards came out and finally got the email to grab mine. I went through the check out and looked at the price (about 1000 usd) and thought to myself, my 2070 super does so well there is no way I can justify $1000 for a new card.

Thanks for this. I'm on my first build. I'm not looking to get expensive equipment. I'm not looking for a 3080 or a $1,000 or $2,000 graphics card. I'm getting what works for me

_"This is my PC. There are many like it but this one is mine..."_

I unironically think Jay is a good looking guy. Maybe he needs to hear this more often.

Yeah I'm the same, I've only upgraded when it doesn't meet the min req's for the games I like to play. I got almost 10yrs out of my last PC lol.

Just built a pc with two year old parts. It was in the budget and I love it. Thanks for for all you build guides. I was my first!

"Brand loyalty only hurts the consumer" -- Some guy who taught me economics

I'm still on a Ryzen 2600 and a 1070Ti and have never thought of upgrading cuz it does all the things I want to do.

Got myself a Ryzen 5 2600 and a rtx 2060 couple years ago. Imo a perfect bang for the buck combination at that time, and it still is. For me, who enjoys 1080p gaming with a 144hz Gsync monitor that combo does the job perfectly fine. Actually really impressed. :)

One of the best.... don't rant just info. Brilliant.

me with my GTX 750: "mmm yes, the 2080 is obsolete"

"your computer isn't suddenly obsolete" Nope, just been gradually getting there over the past 10 years.

I realise this video is at least a couple of years old, but the message remains. The model numbers and specs change, but the story and advice are constant. It reminds me of the Horsepower Wars of the 60s and 70s. Cars have always triggered competitiveness in their owners, but those decades, I think, peaked out the rivalries, with FORU divisions at GM (two of which have disappeared since) fought Ford, Chrysler, and American Motors and one another for bragging rights at drag strips - and public thouroughfares - all oveer North America. To a degree, designing extra performance in products benefits customers as well as the sales of the manufacturers, but, as you pointed out, advances are sometimes miniscule and even negatively effective. I personally am trying the ols hotrodder's trick, combining old parts from several sources, to try to squeeze more performance out of a beater.

I am a PC enthusiast and a photographer and the same applies to both hobbies. Don't upgrade unless your current gear stops working or is not getting the job done. I recently upgraded to a Dell T5610 workstation with a GTX 1070 because the old system was not doing what I needed it to since I got into video editing. A local animation studio was selling off a bunch of workstations at the same time too so it all worked out. But it was never about bragging rights. Although dual Xeons with 128 GBs of RAM is nice. :)

Do I need to upgrade my computer? Nope. Do I still want to upgrade every time something new comes out. Yep. 🤷‍♂️

Jay is that friend that talks sense into you when you're just about to go on another unnecessary hardware buying spree. We all need that friend.

I'm putting my first pc together and hearing Jay talk about "outdated" hardware from a year ago isn't that old reminded me that I'm getting a 9600k. While it's not bad I'm pretty sure it was the bare minimum I could get away with sooooo...

i've revisit this all i can say this thank you jayz you gave me a financial peace in me. my ryzen 7 2700x is still going strong. i'm looking forward upgrading my rx590 very very soon next year after i do my taxes

“It didn’t become slower just because something new came out” *Meanwhile at Apple*

Me: Looks at my FX-8350, "He's talking about us!"

Aye man I just found ur channel and I love it and ur very positive words are golden thanks man I subscribed

Exactly. Great video... listen to his advice. I've known Jayz channel for years and now watching his newer 2020/2021 videos. I've been building PCs and into technology since 2011~. Running R7 3700x + GTX 1080 + 16GB DDR4 3200mhz right now. Beast mode (y).

Queue the terminator scene: "Old. Not obsolete."

I just want GPU’s to go back to normal prices

Great video, I got a pre-built from microcenter during peak covid, and definitely spent more than what it is today, but it has a ryzen 5 5600x, 3060, 1tb nvme, and 32gb ddr4 ram at 3200mhz. Really felt like i "needed" to upgrade since it was a pre-built, but after watching this I'm glad I haven't been totally sucked in to the new upgrades.

Literally just upgraded my i7 4770k running on a Z37 HD3 mobo. Bought it in late 2013, and the only upgrade since has been replacing the 780gtx with a 1070gtx in 2019. It still runs everything I play. Only reason I'm upgrading is I word from home now and it's on 16 hours a day, and I want it to have a long retirement as my daughters PC. It performs a heap better than people expect.

I feel like this is less about when to upgrade your PC and more on not being an elitist tool.

You need an upgrade when your system can't run the games or apps you want to run. Bottom line. Update: Ok, I guess I should have said, upgrade if you feel the need to, not because there is a new video card out or because someone thinks you should.

This is exactly why i love and subscribe to this channel. You are one of the best fountians of knowledge out there.

I absolutely love your videos just because of how much you appreciate older hardware. My pc has a gtx 1060 that I've had for about 4 years now, and this past year started struggling because I play more vr games than anything else on my pc. But I still love that 1060 because if I didn't play a ton of vr, I personally wouldn't have needed anything stronger for mabye a few more years. I have a 3050 coming in soon and I'm super excited for it :')

I'll upgrade when: 🅰️My wallet won't kill me in my sleep for doing so. 🅱️When GPU prices drop after everyone has their 3000 series.

3:07 "im super happy that you have choice" me: seeing the gt710 is the only GPU in stock

In 2011 I built a system with a 4-core phenom AMD processor and 16gb of ddr3 ram and it still holds its ground today. My advice is to build a computer with the future in mind and go as long a you reasonably can without upgrading. After 11 years I decided to upgrade with the same philosophy I used building my last one and I am hoping to get 10 years out of my new system.

I built my first computer earlier this year having no clue what I was doing. I bought what I could afford that was in stock and I'm proud of what I was able to put together not because I have the most high end gamer rig money can buy but because I jumped into the deep end of a knowledge base I was not comfortable with and learned how to do something new. I was able to take that knowledge and do a fresh install on an old Dell pc I used in my workshop for cnc projects that I had forgotten the password for and had for 2 years been a pile of e waste in the garage and is now back to running. If my new rig ever can't run what I need it to run I can upgrade it but I'm happy with what I have

Jay: "Is your PC now obsolete?" Me: _Nervously glances at my Dell prebuilt from 2003 with a Pentium 4 and an ATI Rage_

Came for some PC obselete guide, stayed for the life lesson

I usually upgrade between 6-7 years. Reason is because tech seems to change dramatically about 5 years, but always hang on to your tech for a while until the reviews are in.

I'm still on x58 and I'm still very happy with the performance 😁 6 core 12 thread at 4.2ghz still goes well and even though it's ddr3 it's triple channel and 2000mhz

I'm 100% confident, that the car scene and PC builders are guilty of this 🤦‍♂️

"Your 1080 Ti is so trash, the 3080 would destroy it anyday" Message sent from some kid's prebuilt Pentium 4 256 Mb Ram rig.

I am with you 100% you only need to upgrade if your system is not keeping up with what you need it to do

I think I did a pretty decent job on my PC build especially for a disable kid, it's not the latest spec but it holds up pretty well and I'm proud of it.

people on the newegg discord server are actually pretty nice, i posted my pc build/written specs, and the replies back surprised me. they suggested the parts that i should upgrade, but they also told me i should only upgrade if i feel its necessary, they didnt try and categorize my pc as obsolete, poor,, or not to their liking. they left out all their personal feelings about the build, so huge respect to the newegg discord community

My checklist: (x) Running my favorite game under 60 fps (x) Under HD resolution (x) Stuttering (x) Crashing Yes, i think its time to upgrade

This is the kind of video I will always respect!

For anyone reading this one year post-upload, I was considering upgrading my AMD system from a 1800x to a 5xxx series cpu and from an R9 390 to a 6xxx range gpu. Looking at what I needed to do to have this new cpu supported on my old motherboard, I found out getting my motherboard up to speed on compatibility by updating BIOS already improved my performance drastically, even visually, to an extent that I'm now considering not upgrading my cpu at all for now and am now seeing if I can do the same magic as to not needing a new gpu either. I may get a new case first, as I've noticed my old build struggles more over high temperatures than anything. The reason your pc might be slow is likely not the hardware by itself.

"Just minimize the video" then does the sponsor spot... I'm sure they are happy with that one Jay 🤣

Jay: "Is your PC obsolete?" Me, looking to my Pentium G4560:" I don't think so"

First off thanks Jay for making this video. It made me feel good about my "old system". I've been slowly getting parts on sales and letting the amd ecosystem mature. My "old system" is AMD FX-8340 with cooler master 212 Evo cooler Corsair DDR3 1600 16gb Gigabyte 970a-D3P XFX R9 380x 4gb Cooler master scout case Samsung Evo 850 250gb for windows 10 Everything works it plays my games with a little tweaking. I'm now just starting to see some issues but overall it's been a great system. An I'm now starting to get parts for a new Ryzen build. Gonna hold out on a GPU until prices become reasonable again.

Much needed eye opener!

i'm still running an i7 4770k and a 980ti, i would like to upgrade but honestly it's still doing just fine

Me vibin with my i3-3229Y laptop: Yes, this guy makes a good point.

JAY!!!! You know what does make your face pleasant to look at? It's truth. New level of respect after this video. And I do have a decent rig. However, my old rig was built from and I kept upgrading from other people's literal trash. I climbed in the dumpster over and over again every time I saw anything tech in there. Now, that I have the money, I'm still only buying what makes a real difference and meets my favorite game requirements. My tower is one I actually did buy 20 years ago. And it fits all my stuff nice and snug and breathes wonderfully. Good show, my friend.

Can you do a video on what to do when you upgrade your system and you have those leftover parts? (real old parts and/or modern parts) Recycle? Resell? Reuse? DIY project?

"You have choice in 2020." Scalpers and bots: Allow me to introduce myself.

Me looking at my vega 64: My blower style vega 64: *screaming during any game played at 1440p* Me: “I’m not done abusing you”

I stayed with an intel core 2 quad qx9650 w/8gigs of memory, till 2020. It still ran great, but it did have a tab limit and it also needed to be cleaned often. The better a computer's performance, the less limitations you will find. My advice; When you decide to upgrade, Buy the best you can afford. Decide of how much you can spend. Then put the most money into the places where you need strength, but not so much that you compromise building a well-balanced computer. You make your decisions, then you live with them.

Rewatching this helped. Thanks Jay!! What I want from my gaming experience on the 6700K isn’t really happening anymore. Hmmmm don’t know that to upgrade too. The fun begins.

"Is your system playing the games you like at a framerate you want, at the quality settings you desire? If yes to all then you don't need to upgrade."

I have builds for my kids at my house and theirs. That way when I upgrade, say, a video card, everyone gets an upgrade down the line. It has made my upgrades far more rewarding because multiple people win.

Thanks for the peace of mind. I upgraded my ddr4 to 32g and radeon 5700x graphics card due to out of memory issues. I have been getting plenty of comments and advice saying I should upgrade my CPU which is a ryzen 7 3700x and Motherboard cause it's outdated. Unfortunately I did buy another Motherboard but after watching this video and advice from a computer guru I was told the tomahawk b450 was a good average Motherboard for gaming. That and the CPU still does what I want it to do. So thank you

Watching this a year later because its finally “my time” to upgrade. The first PC i built for myself (with a few good friends’ help) is a Ryzen 1700x, Asus ROG STRIX board, Corsair Vengeance 2666 ram (16gb), EVGA 1080 FTW2, Corsair H100i 240mm liquid cooler, Corsair 850w gold rated psu, inside a Corsair Obsidian 570x case. At the time, 5ish years ago, this was a pretty big boy system that mercilessly and efficiently donkey-punched anything that came its way. Its starting to show its age now, though. Currently in the component-ordering phase of my second build, which will be a Ryzen 5800x, 3080 10gb, Asus board, and much more ram and storage. This one will also be getting a 360mm top-mount radiator and a new Corsair iCue 5000x case. Looking forward to feeling the leap in technology! Great video and great explanation.

"Is your PC now Obsolete?" It has been for over 10 years now. But my Phenom II X4 925 is still going strong.

"Is your PC obsolete?" Looks at my i7 920 and gtx 960 with 12 gigs of ram on win 7 looks at my bank Nah im good

I ran dual Radeon 6950 crossfired for like 10 years. Didn’t always get the best frame rates in newer games but it always kept the house warm!

Great topic, Jay! I built a second PC for my kids to play on, and I just slapped a GTX 670 I had on hand in there thinking "I'll replace this asap," but actually found that an old ass 2gb GPU was flexing on the titles we play. I didn't even feel bad selling my more powerful machine, knowing I can effectively game on $250.

Jay: "Is your PC obsolete?" Me, with a GTX760: "haha, yes"

I decided back in early september that I wanted to build a computer. My budget was supposed to be around $1000. After putting parts together I quickly realized that $1300 was more realistic for me. Then ampere was announced. Then amd 5000 series was announced. Then big navi was announced. My new budget is well... nonexistent. I'm building a 5800x/radeon 6800xt pc now. $2000 is about where I'm at. Please kill me. I don't need this good of a pc but I want it so bad.

Needed to hear this. Thanks

I tend to go about a 6yr upgrade path often buying slightly below top of the line and it's served me well, my next upgrade would be 2023 so hopefully stuff will have sorted itself out by then. I only tend to upgrade when noticeable improvements can be made and the piece of mind that comes with newer parts starts to wane enough. With VR becoming more established the cracks are finally starting to show on a Valve Index in my older build. Been slowly saving up since oct of last year, and I'm planning to go all out with this next build as im gonna be trying my hands at custom hard line water cooling for the first time. I consider myself a bit lucky that i was able to rng luck my way out of what i expect to be most of the hardware issues that have pledged us the past 2 years. Still pretty happily rocking a 7700K and a 1060 6Gb

I feel like after 5 years or when a part breaks is when you should start thinking about upgrading. I personally start looking into pc's again at the 4 year mark to return my knowledge and then upgrade on year 5

My rig is 2 years old, R5 2600 and RX 580. It's my first build and I am very proud of it. Sometimes I stare at it in disbelief. It's as snappy as it was on day 1. Does all my work smoothly and runs all my games at 60 fps or more Can't be happier :D considering keeping it for at least 3 more years. Maybe more if I didn't feel the NEED to upgrade. Thanks for the video Jay :-)

I had a question on graphics cards 7 updates but just answered them. So instead, Thank`s man.

Thank u, this really helped me. My pc can run most of the games but on the lowest graphic so i was deciding to upgrade as my friends had newer pc and they always told me to buy a new pc or upgrade. But now i think I don't need a new pc nor do i need to upgrade. Cause this pc is do the things that i need it to do.