ISA - What Is It And How To Disable It? (ENG) Marek Drives

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What is ISA and how to turn it off?
In 2019, EU lawmakers have agreed on GSR or General Safety Regulation package. The goal is noble: to boost safety for passengers, pedestrians and cyclists. The new measures are expected to prevent 25,000 deaths and reduce serious injuries by at least 140,000 by 2038.
Among the mandatory systems is ISA - Intelligent Speed Assistance. It's emits an audible warning, when you exceed the speed limit, and when the speed limit changes.
As of July 7, 2024 these systems (including ISA) are mandatory for all new cars sold in the EU. All the new systems have to be active every time the vehicle is started.
Here are examples of how to disable ISA in a dozen or so of the most popular brands.
BMW 3:20
Citroen 3:46
Dacia 4:03
Honda 4:34
Hyundai 5:02
KIA 5:18
Lexus 5:40
Mazda 5:59
Mercedes 6:09
Renault 6:20
Suzuki 6:33
Toyota 7:05
Volkswagen 7:41
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@gonz6255 3 месяца назад

Volvo EX30 here. The dealer suggested to program the personalised button on the steering wheel so it turns ISA audio off, and he actually did it for me. It's now a reflex : put the car in drive, push the magic button, and drive.

@MarekDrivesENG 3 месяца назад

Volvo did the right thing.

@kevinn1158 3 месяца назад

We don't ISA in Canada. Thank you very much. I have KSA. Kevin speed assistance. It's worked for decades. Sometimes my wife thinks she's ISA. She comments on my speed constantly.

@MarekDrivesENG 3 месяца назад

Ah, yes! The "don't you think we're going a bit fast?" warning system. Also known as "are we in a hurry?" safety feature.

@kevinn1158 3 месяца назад

@@MarekDrivesENG 😂

@christianronn5301 3 месяца назад

I have never wanted to buy a Dacia before. Now suddenly I do. How full of customer contempt do you have to be to put crucial settings like this deep in the touchscreen? I don’t have ISA in my ‘18 Passat but I do have lane keep assist and it stays the hell off until I manually turn it back on again. Now if only the start-stop feature would work the same way…

@MarekDrivesENG 3 месяца назад

Yes, LKA has to be on by default since about 2018. I recall VW PR telling us how to disable it during the Touareg launch event :) As burying ISA settings deep in any menu, I hope such carmakers will see their sales dwindle until they come to their senses.

@hasidila188 2 месяца назад

As I understand it, regulators don't allow it to be "too easy"... It has to be "buried".

@MarekDrivesENG 2 месяца назад

@@hasidila188 there is no requirement for it to be buried. BMW, Mercedes, Renault make it a one-button affair.

@dominicrusho 2 месяца назад

I predict we will see an alteration to the way ISA is mandated once more infuriated consumers complain about how crap it is in real-world use. It flat out sucks. The truth is that these systems - including most of the GSR2 mandated kit like lane keep assist - are not even remotely close to being reliable or intelligent enough to meet the fantastical demands legislators have placed upon them. Stuff like this really does make me question the value of Euro NCAP in the modern world - they seem to be just inventing new rules to justify their own continued existence (and funding, no doubt), whilst the European Commision seems to blindly accept anything they recommend. Rant over…

26 дней назад

And here I am, driving my Polo 2023 with less fuss than Tesla Model 3 owners have. Lanes are kept correctly, speed limits are read correctly (except for specific roads already reported), no speeding chimes. Not that I don't exceed the limit, I just 1) don't get the chimes because I adjusted the nav and 2) I exceed to overtake, not to cruise. As soon as I get on the highway, I only have to press SET on the wheel and it drives by itself, I only have to look out the windows and mirrors and occasionally overtake a lorry. I guess one's mileage may vary?

@Ostap1974 3 месяца назад

I would argue against saving lives. Being driven many cars with speed limit detection -- I have never experienced a car that would work properly. So even if I was a true pedantic driver, higher blood pressure from false positives tends to increase the risk of heart attack...

@chubawoba 2 месяца назад

Difficulty of turning off ISA a big factor in car choice.

@tsc666 Месяц назад

Not something we expected a few years back, right? :(

@philipbassett5129 Месяц назад

Thanks for the run down on the difference between brands. I’m amazed some brands make it so long winded, because it will actually put off quite a few buyers and could be a significant factor in lost sales.

@RaduB. 3 месяца назад

My Mazda 3 is of 2021 vintage. So I was spared of ISA. 👍 Usually immediately after starting the engine my left hand goes automatically and turns the "i-stop" off, though. Then the lane keep assist follows, rather sooner than later, but I sometimes find this feature useful...

@ast5515 3 месяца назад

I have a feeling German cars will be very popular in certain circles, as they can usually be tinkered with using readily available software (BimmerCode for BMW, VCDS for VW group, etc.), and it's going to make it very easy to get rid of this crap. Permanently. If not, we can always find the speaker in the dash, remove it, and smash it with a hammer.

@MarekDrivesENG 3 месяца назад

Funny you should suggest that, because the first thing I did when I found about ISA last year, was drive to "my guy", who installed Android Auto on my MINI. He says it's increasingly difficult to code something on cars (including VAG), because they are online, and they revert to the last approved software version. And even if they don't do it automatically, the dealer will install the current software version, when you leave the car in for service. Also increasingly often the warning sounds are emitted through the audio system speakers, so you're fucked from every angle.

@ast5515 3 месяца назад

@@MarekDrivesENG Eh, people managed to hack the heated seat subscription on BMW, they will find a way. I hope...

@philipbassett5129 Месяц назад

I read an article about this and people were warned that actually tinkering with the software as you suggest, could cause your insurance company to refuse a claim in the event of an accident. Remember that question on the proposal form, “Has the car been modified?”. If you’ve had this done and put “No” to that question, your insurance company will claim that the policy is void. If, however, you answer “Yes”, it’s likely they won’t cover it at all, since it’s regarded as a safety feature. Best just to buy a model that enables you to turn it off in 2 or 3 clicks via a personalisation button. As soon as manufacturers realise they are losing sales, they’ll probably all make this process easy.

@ast5515 Месяц назад

@@philipbassett5129 It's not the insurance companies you have worry about. New cars will have "calibration IDs" and they can fail inspection / MOT if it's not factory. But I trust that someone will find a solution to reset everything to factory for inspection and revert the next day. I'm all for rules that make sense. But if it doesn't make sense, I'm putting in effort to get around it.

@viliukas15 3 месяца назад

Mazda MY24 driver here. I usually keep ISA audible warning ON because a) the beeping it is not that annoying (politely beeps twice every time you exceed the speed limit), b) with pressing "mute" you also mute audible warnings of other driver assistance systems, such as Lane Departure warning, Blind spot monitoring warning, front and rear cross traffic alerts and SBS forward alert.

@marjacu3809 3 месяца назад

You beat me by 10 minutes. I wanted to write exactly your comment, word for word. Sucks that Mazda decided to implement it as such, but at least the chime is better (after a minor sw update). Now I want to ask you, Mazda has a setting to give you some leeway of up to 10kmh until it chimes, but it doesn't seem to work. How does it behave in your car? Note I have a 2024 Mazda 3 Sedan

@viliukas15 3 месяца назад

@@marjacu3809 the same. I also tried. This function was useful and worked on my MY17 Mazda, but on MY24 it just doesn't seem to do/change anything

@MarekDrivesENG 3 месяца назад

@marjacu3809 the warning threshold was a different safety feature, and yes, you used to be able to set it 5 or 10 km/h above.

@MarekDrivesENG 3 месяца назад

@viliukas15 interesting about turning off all the audible warnings. I haven't driven a new Mazda with ISA, I just recorded the button for this video. It seems Dacia has done it best so far.

@baubaul 3 месяца назад

My Mazda traffic sign recognition records a 5 mph limit from a side road when I’m on a 30mhp road. Have fun with that. Luckily I’m in UK so ISA is not mandatory with the beeping

@jjookkaaooss 3 месяца назад

How is ISA dealing with different speed laws in the EU? For example, in Croatia speed limit is valid until the next junction - aftewards it is the standard limit for that road type.

@MarekDrivesENG 3 месяца назад

Same problem in Poland, but that's up to satnav to provide such information. In order for ISA to work there needs to be satnav. So no more cars without it.

@Edvard7777 2 месяца назад

Why don't they mandate something useful that actually helps the driver instead of something that doesn't work properly and is there just to annoy you? I think BSM(Blind Spot Monitoring) and RCTA (Rear Cross Traffic Alert) are such examples, not annoying but there to warn you when there is a good reason for it, work very well also.

@tsc666 Месяц назад

Exactly this! RCTA helps in a situation where you (the driver) don't even have a chance to see the rear cross traffic (or pedestrians) when backing out from a parking spot. It should be mandatory instead of the unreliable speed warning. BSM is also quite useful indeed.

@emersonmsd 3 месяца назад

I had an EV9 for the weekend and did exactly as you described.😅

@MarekDrivesENG 3 месяца назад

Well done! 😉

@LTUman 3 месяца назад

Good one. Thanks!

@ingrainedquark474 2 месяца назад

Ford: keep the LIM button on the steering wheel pressed for a few seconds.

@wesseltendolle 3 месяца назад

I’m picking up my new Volkswagen ID.3 next week. Very curious how annoying ISA will be.

@Marius-1984 2 месяца назад

They all should just put a simple button de stop it..... right near de startstop one if possible....

@laupakhin 3 месяца назад

I've got a 2017 model, so no ISA for me, but I dread the day I have to replace it with something with ISA. My first question that I'll be asking the dealer is "how do I turn the stupid beep off?"

@MarekDrivesENG 3 месяца назад

Hopefully by then more carmakers will implement better ways of dealing with ISA. Single button solutions or it's a no-go for me.

@Ribeirasacra 3 месяца назад

I do have not yet driven a very new car. But from what I hear the beeps are all the same. You have to take your eyes off the road when you hear a beep and see what the dash is informing you. Here in Spain roadwork signs are low, ground level. They include speed limits. Are the cameras in the cars able to read these? You did not mention it but I thought there is a speed limiter within with this safety initiative. Thus cars will not be able to go faster than the limit it thinks set on the road. Is that correct or is that for the future?

@MarekDrivesENG 3 месяца назад

These cameras read signs from all over the place, including ones the shouldn't (like that parallel road I mentioned in the video - there's a 20 km/h speed limit on some access road, while the limit on the main road is 50). Some sort of speed limiter is mandatory, but it's not active by default. Depending on the car you can set it yourself or it will adapt to the speed limit automatically. It will prevent you from crossing the speed limit, unless you overcome the gas pedal resistance. It's kind of like reverse cruise control. Instead of setting the minimum speed to maintain, you set the maximum speed, which shouldn't be exceeded. You can also set the car to inform you about the changing speed limit visually, and then there's a prompt, whether the car should adapt the speed (for cruise control or the limiter) to that sign.

@Ribeirasacra 3 месяца назад

@@MarekDrivesENG Thank you for the explanation.👍

@skemsen 3 месяца назад

Is this ISA collecting data sent to government branches and/or sold to insurance companies? I feel like there is a lack of transparency regarding data collection and handling from modern cars

@MarekDrivesENG 3 месяца назад

Yes. It's collecting data about how often do people turn it off, and how often they exceed speed limits. The data is sent to the EU road safety authority. I assume it's for the body to evaluate how its regulations are fucked up :)

@skemsen 3 месяца назад

@@MarekDrivesENG God damn big brother nanny state! 🤬

26 дней назад

OK, hear me out: when a certain subsystem of the car has an incident, we don't "just turn it off" - we override it. Simply turning systems off demonstrates ignorance on behalf of the driver, inability to learn how it functions and what to expect. When road sign recognition recognizes speed limit not applicable, press RES on cruise control panel to...RESume previous cruise speed. Assuming, of course, you actually drive with cruise, to preserve fuel, to be consistent, to lighten your own mental stack, to maintain speed AT the speed limit. When speed limit warning chimes, dismiss it. Don't ignore it - dismiss it, press OK or any button on your multifunction steering wheel that responds to chimes from the car, like "engine running door open" chime. Adjust speed to match the limit if the recognized limit is correct. ADJUST OVERSPEED WARNING IN YOUR NAVIGATION SO THAT IT CHIMES LATER. As for lane assist and emergency braking - maintain correct distances from other drivers and keep your mitts on the bottom of the steering wheel. You don't really have to steer much, just give consistent feedback to the car that the driver is awake, alert, and able to steer.

@MarekDrivesENG 25 дней назад

Yes, but no.

@janmannaerts8681 Месяц назад

My dealer dident say anything about it + i hate the beeping sound but turning it off evrysingle time ... I love my audi A5 but that sound GRrrrrrrrrr !

@Denis-tm5js 3 месяца назад

For this reason alone I did not want to wait for the FL Hyundai i30, although it was just half a year away. I knew it would have this ADAS crap baked in, so I opted to buy the PFL model. I just turn off start stop and LKA when I start the car, and I am good to go. I think Dacia / Renault have the best disable system of ADAS, program what you dislike, 2 clicks, and be on your merry way.

@Gopher31 Месяц назад

For the Lexus there is a faster way. If you disable frequently then it’s only two presses: Press the shortcut button then under the heading ‘frequently used’ select the RSA button. Done!

@MarekDrivesENG Месяц назад

Doesn't turning off RSA take away entire traffic sign recognition? I want to know the speed limit, I just don't want the car to beep at me. ISA is based on RSA, but it's not the same.

@Gopher31 Месяц назад

@@MarekDrivesENG Yes it does. Your way of course leaves it on but has a couple more steps whereas disabling RSA is two steps with nice big buttons so really quick to do. I wish I could just mute the sound quickly. The visual is useful but the sound is annoying.

@Gopher31 Месяц назад

Mazda has the right idea!

@RambleStorm 2 месяца назад

and just like that Toyota is no longer the brand I'd consider for a replacement when the time comes; unless something changes....(as I usually buy my cars at @yr/old mark and the current year Camry (new model) would've been up my alley ....guess I should look for alternatives...

@sologog8129 Месяц назад

Do cars have dedicated speaker for ISA or use one from radio/entertainment?

@MarekDrivesENG Месяц назад

These days everything goes through the same speaker system, so no, you can't just cut one wire and be done with it :(

@romariossoossoiramor150 3 месяца назад

Thanks a lot

@Gilotopia 3 месяца назад

When are you reviewing that sexy duster?

@MarekDrivesENG 3 месяца назад

It's already available for Channel Members. No ads. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-addUK3ikeks.html

@peterochman7242 29 дней назад

How about for Porsche? Specifically the new 911 992.2

@MarekDrivesENG 29 дней назад

No idea. I haven't driven a post July 2024 Porsche. Probably similar to VW. Click the screen. Maybe assign it to the configurable button.

@peterochman7242 28 дней назад

@@MarekDrivesENG Thanks for the reply Marek. I found this on Regit article on 8 July.

@peterochman7242 28 дней назад

Will UK cars have ISA from July 2024? Porsche, though part of the Volkswagen Group, provided a distinct response to This is Money. It noted that its latest models such as the Cayenne, Taycan, and Panamera are equipped with a speed warning system, but clarified that they do not include speed-limiting functionality. No mention was made regarding their sports cars, including the iconic 911. How to deactivate ISA: According to Porsche, owners can disable the audible and visual alerts through the touchscreen interface or using a programmable button on the steering wheel.

@LookingForPartyy День назад

For the European Toyota Rav4 it will turn on back every time you turn off/on the car... Super stupid and annoying

@takuan650 3 месяца назад

I'd probably go for used cars which haven't this cr@p installed. I'll stay with my CX5 Mazda Diesel for a while longer I suppose.

@TheAllMightyGodofCod 3 месяца назад

Wait, do they know you can be deaf and still drive? I want a car with speed recognition. Mine doesn't and and sometimes I am cruising through a road with speed cameras and I remain at a lower speed because i cant remeber if the speed restriction had ended or not but I dont want an annoying beeping sound!

@MarekDrivesENG 3 месяца назад

Traffic sign recognition is not perfect, but good enough. Also these days Android Auto shows you the speed limit.

@TheAllMightyGodofCod 3 месяца назад

@@MarekDrivesENG yes, it does. But sometimes it doesn't so I would love to have sign recognition as I hate to pay tickets 😅

@WheelieMacBin 2 месяца назад

Make no mistake, car insurers at some point in the near future, will invalidate the insurance of anybody turning this gadget off. Big Brother is already here.

@MarekDrivesENG 2 месяца назад

I bet. It sends data to the EU road safety authority for evaluation. I.e. how often do people speed, and how often do they turn this shit off :)

@A963015 13 дней назад

As long as it is legal to deactivate it, there is no reason for car insurers to invalidate any insurance. And like any other driving assistance systems, it will always be possible to deactivate it, because poor road infrastructure, bad weather and other source of wrong reading of road signs will not go away.

@stebuklas.g Месяц назад

So my next car will be a Dacia, :)

@vidpetrovic8907 3 месяца назад

Now I know that my next car will be a Dacia or Renault

@kalinlilovski7207 2 месяца назад

No proof that what you see in Duster would be the same in other models. Saw a Jogger without that option.

@vidpetrovic8907 2 месяца назад

@@kalinlilovski7207 I know, because Jogger still hasn't been updated

@rimmerblues1586 3 месяца назад

Yes, even in the UK we get this lovely feature - so much for Brexit!! 😩 I can't deny that this feature can be of use, especially when driving in unfamiliar areas, however you should be able to turn it off or mute it easily because an angry/annoyed/stressed/infuriated driver is not a safe driver. But now it's about to get worse as new cars in the EU from today will actually physically limit the speed rather than just telling you off. I feel that car manufacturers should no longer express the feeling of freedom and pleasure in their new-car adverts as it just can no longer exist (at least in Europe).

@MarekDrivesENG 3 месяца назад

Not quite: road-safety-charter.ec.europa.eu/resources-knowledge/media-and-press/intelligent-speed-assistance-isa-set-become-mandatory-across "The ISA regulation provides four options for systems feedback to the driver, from which car manufacturers will be free to choose from: 1. Cascaded acoustic warning 2. Cascaded vibrating warning 3. Haptic feedback through the acceleration pedal 4. Speed control function" So far all implementations I experienced were cascaded acoustic warning. I'd prefer haptic feedback through the acceleration pedal.

@10mbc 3 месяца назад

Well well well... I have bought a new car in 2024 but it's, basically, a 2017 model with a 2021 engine so no ISA. The one that is now on sale, it does have ISA. I was looking to Hyundai Kona and then at the new Dacia Duster and I was just impressed how well the new Duster implemented the countermeasures for EU's stupidity. The Kona is just not that good but not as bad as the Suzuki but it shows a lack of understanding of a driver's needs. Yes, a car that is similar to the Suzuki would be a deal braker for me. I think you left out Tesla, it's similar to the Merc as it's a one touch deal. We need that in Hyundais. So my care has no ISA but, of course, it does have a load of EU in it. When I start the car, I need to disable the stop / start system (button on the left), set the driving to mode from Eco to Normal (button near the gear lever) and disable Lane Keep Assist (button on the steering wheel. I would love to have a button like on Dacia or have all the buttons on the left, grouped together.