some people really like learning about islam, but people like her, they dont even listen, they just hate the religion and they dont learn anything if they dont drop their ego.
As a muslim woman, I think that there’s a beautiful wisdom behind the (asking the father for the daughther’s hand thing), not only coz of the reasons Ali mentioned (which logically speaking even if you see it from a psychological perspective, if he asked the mother for example and not the father, us women being generally emotional beings (not all, generally) we might not see what a fellow man will see when he sees a potential spouse for his daughter or sister or niece etc) but aside from all this.. I personally think it is because islam elevated women like no other religion or society did, a woman is treated like a queen, the way she deserves, if a man desires her then he’ll have to overcome those obstacles (asking and getting blessings from the family, agreeing to the dowry and all conditions placed, and then most importantly, even IF the man meets all of this ..qualifications? 😂.. she has the right to decide if she wants him or not.. like even if the father himself wants her to marry the man and is pleased with the potential partner, if she, after he already went through all of that. Said no, then no one can say anything to her. The his money is hers, but hers is hers alone as well, and so, SO many things (when it comes to just marriage), all to protect and place respect for the women. It gives women EQUITY, NOT equality, sth way better than any feminist movement could ever bring forth for women. Alhamdulillah Ps: I’m no scholar and this is by NO MEANS any fatwa, this is my personal opinion and how I like to see how islam elevated us women, is it truly the wisdom behind what Allah decreed? idk. Allah knows best.
And as for the victim blaming point she brought up (or rather, why women should cover up just because men can’t control themselves), for me the most important part of covering up, is submitting to Allah, regardless of the reasons, reason(s), because ofc there are many reasons whether we know or acknowledge them all or not. If you are a believer and you know God AlMighty decreed things and you fully believe that everything He decrees os for our own good, then for me that’s enough, I don’t even need to know the reason behind every single thing that is decreed. So the core and most important thing is to first understand what and why you believe in what you believe (God’s existence God’s words God’s decrees God’s wisdome mercy judgment etc etc), before questioning other things. Because if you do not even believe in any of that then there’s no point in going forward, you’ll never accept or understand any of it. God created us and as such He knows us best, He wired us to be the way we are, if He made men love and desire women the way they do, and not being able to resist, then it makes sense that regardless if they do their part in lowering their gazes or not, us women should do our own part for our OWN sakes, again it is to protect and elevate us. Even in the Quran, there is a verse that Allah lists worldly things man loves and desires, and first on the list is WOMEN, not money, not power and fame, not offspring, women, first, then the other things (money gold offspring etc etc) Second is, let’s face it ladies, no matter how hard you try to pin in against men and how hard you deny it, men are men, they themselves admit it and tell us this so why deny and refuse it?!! They themselves say women are their weakness, it’s not victim blaming, it’s a fact and they themselves say so. they’re visual creatures and desire women in a different way than how women desire men (again, ofc there are exceptions, some men dont desire women that way or that much, and some women desire men and are attracted to them physically more then other women, but those are the exceptions, not the rule). And any woman who says no men should stop being pigs are just lying to themselves. Coz let’s face it, even I, ME, a woman, sometimes have a hard time lowering my gaze if I see a woman with a beautiful body, especially if she’s wearing tight clothes or clothes that accentuates certain features, my gaze automatically goes there without me realizing or being aware of it, how about men who are even more attracted to women and who desires them greatly? Womens bodies are beautiful, they’re soft and round and curvy, they just are made like that, attractive and enchanting, yes men have beautiful bodies too (especially if they’re toned and healthy/strong (ofc depends on taste too but GENERALLY), yet they still dont turn eyes and enchant others the way women’s bodies do. And lastly, I personally really think it is to protect us NOT only from men’s desires, but also ourselves FROM ourselves, from our own desire to be desired, we naturally ARE like that. We naturally want to look pretty and well kept, smell good and look good, want to show off to everyone (men and women), I do really believe we have that inclination, like even as a hijabi, when in gatherings with friends I want to look pretty to myself and to my friends, so honestly really I do believe hijab is protecting US from forgetting ourselves too and losing sight of what really matters. To be respected for US, not our looks, so when someone talks to me they talk to me and respect me as the person I am, my intellect and my personality, I don’t need approval of my loons from all the men species, having that kept for myself, fellow ladies and significant other is enough.
@@soya9287 women are made lovely by Almighty God for this world and they need to cover up only where pockets are on the chest and as on back of the pants, that is their hidden beauty, coverup does not mean cover faces, even Almighty God asked people who made this Haram what Allah made lovely/beauty for the world. women can leave their hair open, can leave their arms open up to elbows. read Quran and do not live a life on fake theories. Here are the verses زُيِّنَ لِلنَّاسِ حُبُّ الشَّهَوَاتِ مِنَ النِّسَاء وَالْبَنِينَ وَالْقَنَاطِيرِ الْمُقَنطَرَةِ مِنَ الذَّهَبِ وَالْفِضَّةِ وَالْخَيْلِ الْمُسَوَّمَةِ وَالأَنْعَامِ وَالْحَرْثِ ذَلِكَ مَتَاعُ الْحَيَاةِ الدُّنْيَا وَاللّهُ عِندَهُ حُسْنُ الْمَآبِ (3:14) Adornment for mankind is love to desire of women and sons and in heaps of [the] gold and [the] silver and [the] branded horses and [the] cattle and tilled land, That (is) provision (of) life (of) the world but with Allah is the excellent abode to return All mankind means all men and women both love women, and sons and heap of gold and silver, can not stop loving women and having a lot of sons and gold. and now in next verse Almighty God is asking WHO made this Haram what made to adore. قُلْ مَنْ حَرَّمَ زِينَةَ اللّٰهِ الَّتِيَ أَخْرَجَ لِعِبَادِهِ وَالْطَّيِّبَاتِ مِنَ الرِّزْقِ ط قُلْ هِي لِلَّذِينَ آمَنُواْ فِي الْحَيَاةِ الدُّنْيَا خَالِصَةً يَوْمَ الْقِيَامَةِ ط كَذَلِكَ نُفَصِّلُ الآيَاتِ لِقَوْمٍ يَعْلَمُونَ (7:32) Say Who has Forbidden (the) adornment (from) Allah which He has brought forth for His slaves and the pure things of sustenance Say They (are) for those who believe in the life (of) this world, exclusively the Day (of) Resurrection, Thus We explain the Signs for (the) people who know. Now in verse 24:31 women can leave it open which remain open that is the parts which remain open in Waddu. Do not die in ignorance,
@@adnanibnnoor_1 Where does it say in the Ayat mentioned that women can show their forearms and hair? And which notable esteemed scholar did you get this view from? Do you realise the gravity of what you are doing here? You are misleading women into being less modest than what Our Creator prescribed for us. Every single woman you mislead you will have to answer for on the Day of Judgement. If I were you, I would rush to delete comments like these out of fear of Allah and the Day of Qiyama. May Allah swt continue to guide us to the straight path.
I hate it how women recognize that men can be creeps but when it comes to the idea of marriage they forget men can be creeps as in ppl questioning why a father should speak to the young man in question. A woman can tell when another woman is flirting and if you are a man that was raised around women, you can tell too and vice versa. But if you were not raised with that knowledge to know what it looks like when a man or a woman is trying to play you, then you won't know. So a man should speak with a man because he will know if you are in it for the long run or just trying to spit game. Same goes for a woman. Like the show he mentioned "Love Island". How many ppl in general did their confessionals and said they weren't serious or serious about a specific person? And how many of those ppl were fooled thinking they might be "the one". Literally, all of these shows like the bachelor, Bachelorette, ex-couple/find love shows has at least 1 person that doesn't care who they sleep with, they're just trying to have fun while also breaking the other person's heart. Men and women stop acting dense on purpose to prove a point
I just don’t understand why people wana challenge Islam without even reading the Quran. Being offered the Quran and then rejecting it but still wanting to challenge Islam?
It is those who will one day have a taste of bitterness for such arrogance bro, there’s only so much we can do to explain to others. I’m convinced that half these people who challenge only want to cause trouble and don’t actually want an insight to the religion. May Allah keep us strong inshallah
@@doobieddooo that's not true. An incredibly biased perspective of yours. Feminists have different views. The Western feminists we are usually accustomed to are just Atheists who hate religion and use their gender as a justification to disbelieve. And say Orientalist things like what you just said
Subhan Allah Ali brother… I admire how patient you are in explaining and giving dawahma ma shaa Allah… May Allah swt give me the same or even more patience and a fluent tongue to continue your path… Aameen
Simple answer is what Ben Shapiro said. If you wave a bundle of cash over your head in a high crime neighbourhood and get robbed, it’s still the robber who’s wrong for robbing you but you’re also not very bright for walking around with a bundle of cash above your head. Actions have consequences and you have to take accountability and responsibility..
I can see that she was still skeptical, but at the same time this discussion clearly gave her food for thoughts... It reminds me of my old-self, I couldn't understand many things of Islam and said many times I would never become a Muslim because Islam was extreme, strange, unfair, etc... but after some time of research I came to realize that nothing makes more sense in order to live in a better society where there wouldn't be room for error... Now I can't wait to take the next step and start wearing hijab and became a better Muslim every day. Embracing Islam doesn't mean being oppressed, on the contrary it gives you a lot in this life. Thank you Allah for choosing me and for curing my blindness and deafness I was living in.
interesting story... Islam only seemed extreme because the world and the West in specific has gone too far to the extreme. Islam is perfectly in line with human nature
As a muslim women. I feel blessed that i am muslim alhamdullh. I can't imagine how lost i would have been had i not been Allah concious. And us muslim women are honoured in a way no other women was or is honoured. To add to the hijab argument. I would ask, why do people not leave their diamonds and valuable out for everybody to see or be accessable to. Us muslim women feel exactly like that diamond valued, hounoured and protected from evil eyes.... Alhamdulillah for islam 🤍🤍
I am on a self discovery of new religions for the past few years to understand them and I took so long to try to understand islam or muslim as a veteran i love the religion as it shows restraint against most things most religions do not teach
Incredible communication here Ali! You relayed these points with loving connections and empathy, i'm sure Bethany left with a higher sense of purpose, all religion aside! ✨
@@Nevjerovatno6 if you follow quran you will follow the hadith too cause in quran allah cc says obey and allah and obey his messenger end of discussion
He should of mentioned the pscyhological fact that we as human beings are attracted to things we cannot choose. It is easier to get that attraction if you're being affected by for example lightly dressed 'women' in this case. It causes the wrong emotions and heartache as Ali mentioned in the video. May Allah guide us all.
مستفز جدًا كيف مجتمع الغرب غير المسلم يصدق النظرة النمطية عن الإسلام اللي ينقلها الإعلام بدون لا يتتبعون أثرها ويتأكدون والمزعج أكثر اللي يكابر حتى بعد ماتعلمه الحقيقة نفس المرأة اللي بالمقطع !
I had to pause and 3:31 and comment on what this lady is trying to get at. She’s just looking for an excuse to make Islam look bad and unjust towards women. Here she says why does the guy have to speak to my dad and not my mum it’s as if my dad owns me! But you have no problem in your dad or male friend/relative giving you away at the alter because that’s different and fits your own racist narrative so isn’t sexist! Why can’t your mum or a female give you away? 🙄
Whatever you say, you can't deny the very fact that Sharia law does not treat men and women literally equal - why you Muslims don't accept it? As a Muslim I know what my religion is, alhamdulillah, I'm not more Allahist than Allah himself
The thing is not about why you bring your man to your father but it was about the islamic concept of mariage. He should be explain from the concept so she could understand it. I think this is one of the reason why we shouldn't be debate
Narrated Anas: Once Um Sulaim was (with the women who were) in charge of the luggage on a journey, and Anjashah, the slave of the Prophet, was driving their camels (very fast). The Prophet said, O Anjash! Drive slowly (the camels) with the glass vessels (i.e., ladies).
because some fathers are very aggresive and don’t respect their daughters and sons.. the majority of them are even alcoholic but they think they’re Muslims lol
@@ladygaia4782 "Majority of them are alcoholic but they think they are muslim" Firstly, drinking alcohol does not make you a non-muslim. And have you met all the fathers in the world in order to make this claim? Fear Allah and do not slander others!
Interesting she keeps questioning why the father has to “give away his daughter” in Islam, yet that’s exactly what you see in Christian weddings, where the father “walks the daughter down the isle”…
i despise how she spoke for all muslim women saying we’re all mistreated.. like why is a non-believer telling us we’re oppressed when none of us are saying we are 💀
@@revoksfn7354 dont confuse culture and religion i think you mean honour killings ? But thats out of pure culture religion does not condone that honour killing dates back to heavy patriarchy
@@revoksfn7354 i grt what you mean i guess you’d have to read every religion to come to a conclusion of that I was born into my religion and I continue to follow it because i have nothing to lose
@@Jasonmulla We captured some of the women as captives, and the long separation from our wives was pressing us hard and we wanted to release sperms outside of the women. We asked Allah's Messenger (ﷺ) (whether it was permissible). He said, "It is better for you to release sperms inside. No soul, (that which Allah has) destined to exist, up to the Day of Resurrection, but will definitely come, into existence." Sahih al-Bukhari 2542
When she says her dad apparently owns her according to Islam, she should ask herself firstly why is it in western culture and weddings it is the father that walks their daughter down the Aisle to give her away to her future husband.
Thing is even in the western world, your parents are regarded as your guardians until you become an adult, so in that sense everyone is independent. The same applies for Islam, the reason as to why the male relatives meet the future groom is due to security reasons. Once again, men understand men and I 100% agree with this statement.
They’re so backwards that’s why. You can see the shaytan in their way of thinking. I’m born and live here in the US so I see it all the time. May allah swt guide them and continue to guide us towards the righteous path
REPENT FROM YOUR SINS AND TURN TO THE LORD JESUS THE CHRIST, THE SON OF GOD TO BE SAVED!! MAN IS DAMNED TO HELL FOR ETERNITY FOR HIS SINS AND THERE IS NOTHING YOU CAN DO TO AVOID IT!!!!! BUT THERE IS SOMETHING THAT GOD DID DO!! HE GAVE HIS ONLY TRUE SON, THE LORD JESUS CHRIST SO THAT WHOEVER BELIEVES IN HIM WILL BE SAVED!!!!!!! DONATING A DATE, HELPING THE POOR, SAVING SOMEONES LIFE WON'T GET YOU TO HEAVEN!!!!! BRIBERY WON'T WORK ON GOD! SOMEONE HAD TO PAY THE FINE AND THAT WAS THE LORD JESUS CHRIST!!!!! ISLAM SAYS BEAT YOUR WIFE INTO SUBMISSION, MUHHAMAD MARRIED A 5 YEAR OLD GIRL AND HAD SEX WITH HER WHEN SHE WAS 9, ISLAM SAYS PERSECUTE CHRISTIANS AND JEWS AND THAT NON BELIEVERS ARE KEFFERS, THE DIRTIEST OF THE DIRTIEST OF THE LOWEST OF THE LOWEST OF ALL CREATION, ISLAM SAYS KISS BLACK STONE!!! ARE YOU PAGANS! GOD HATES THAT BEHAVIOR BUT ISLAM TEACHES IT!!!! MUHAMMAD SAID WOMAN HAS HALF A BRAIN!! HE SAID YOUR MOTHER, YOUR AUNT, YOUR SISTER AND FEMALE COUSIN HAVE HALF A BRAIN!!! ARE YOU GONNA TAKE THAT TERRIBLE DISHONOUR AND STAY A PART OF THIS! CHOOSE YOU THIS DAY WHOM YOU WILL SERVE! AS ME FOR ME AND MY HOUSE, WE WILL SERVE THE LORD!!! REPENT AND TURN TO THE LORD JESUS CHRIST FOR HE IS THE ONLY WAY TO THE FATHER, HE SAYS I AM THE WAY, THE TRUTH AND THE LIFE. NO MAN COMES TO THE FATHER EXCEPT THROUGH ME!! WHEN HE WAS WITH THE LADY AT THE WELL, HE SAID I AM HE, THE MESSIAH! JESUS SAID BEFORE ABRAHAM WAS, I AM!!!!!! THE LORD IS JESUS CHRIST WHO WILL COME!!
@Sage Sex slavery was economically beneficial believe it or not; do some history please? Ottoman harem for instance had concubines that were educated and marired away to government officials. I am in dissapointment that people like you can't come to terms with basic necessities of that time, women couldn't fend for themselves in that era.
I chose to cover myself from head to toe against my dad’s wishes. I did it to protect myself from the nasty men who wouldn’t leave me alone. Also, in Islam the prophet Pbuh mentioned the mother 3 times before he mentioned the father when he was asked who the most important person to someone should be. I do understand that a lot of Muslim women are oppressed by their cultures but it has nothing to do with Islam. All of the Muslim women I know have chosen to cover up because they want to.
Honey, women were far more liberated before Islam came, take the prophet's first wife for example Khadija she was a powerful well known independant merchant who employed muhammad! Few years after her death Muhammad started preaching sexism and didn't condemn the discusting muslim men's perverted behaviours so he had women dress in Burqas and be "obediant to their men" because if don't they are beaten. Oh yeah and if those silly women refuse their husbands on the bed then the angels will curse them all night longue shame on them for not consenting!! From a proud ex muslim
they cover up because god says to , also father is a shield in family but mother gets priority , it's cause Islam gives women priority over man . but father knows more about his child what is good for them then mother.
@@lossforwords888 yo bro the religion is actually really misunderstood and even many muslims don't understand the religion or haven't read the meaning behind a surah i feel like if you looked into the religion you will understand how misunderstood it is. so i live in eruope and all my life non muslim sand everyone around me used to tell me prophet muhammad peace be upon him married a 9 year old girl and i thought to myself what so i asked my muslim friends , and even muslims around me even they thought it was true,, so I researched the religion now not too long ago, and I found so many misunderstood parts. so yeah when the Prophet married his wife, she was 19 years old and not nine even some non muslims think that muslim girls get married away and that their parents just keeps the money for themselves which is actually not true at all. the money is for her and only her and the husband should not take it back because they are hers.
@@lossforwords888 yo bro the religion is actually really misunderstood and even many muslims don't understand the religion or haven't read the meaning behind a surah i feel like if you looked into the religion you will understand how misunderstood it is. so i live in eruope and all my life non muslim sand everyone around me used to tell me prophet muhammad peace be upon him married a 9 year old girl and i thought to myself what so i asked my muslim friends , and even muslims around me even they thought it was true,, so I researched the religion now not too long ago, and I found so many misunderstood parts. so yeah when the Prophet married his wife, she was 19 years old and not nine even some non muslims think that muslim girls get married away and that their parents just keeps the money for themselves which is actually not true at all. the money is for her and only her and the husband should not take it back because they are hers.
@@goatHems9972 brother, Aisha one of the mother of islam did in fact marry the prophète sws when she was 7 years old. There is Many reasons to that so dont by influenced by the west society broken values and rules
The fact she didn’t take a Quran shows she just came to argue and not change her opinions. Even after he educated and debunked her claims she refused to actually read the Quran as her ego was hurt.
Arguing with a feminist is useless 90% of the time. They believe what they believe because of their subjective emotions, not because there's any objective moral basis behind it
@@umer05 Thank You Just because she did not take your anointed Quran does not mean she's ignorant as you guys would believe or some of you I don't know. If her heart wants to give Islam a chance Allah will guide her Muslim or not. She didn't sign a contract to take the Quran after the discussion. She heard the word if she chooses to reject it that's her problem come Judgement day.
Lol, you can tell how insincere she is. She just wanted to come and make a point about Islam being sexist towards women, but she couldn't handle the responses from Brother Ali. Good work bro, may Allah bless you immensely. If people were actually sincere about learning instead of thinking they know everything, she would have accepted a Qur'an and actually read it. Even when Ali mentioned that 3 of 5 converts are women, she didn't wanna hear that, you could just tell. It absolutely baffles me how many people are willing to keep living in ignorance, when people are literally offering them wisdom. May Allah guide her, me and everyone else.
Lmao u could see her smile every time she gave weak arguments... The moment she said that men are pigs... I understood that she isn't here for understanding or building bridges even... She was there to talk shit and fulfill her small insecure ego... And to justify that what she is doing is always right because she is a women... Entitlement basically... She is proud of what she is doing... Very dangerous thing for her... I hope she gets hidayah
facts. its crazy how stubborn people can be like Ali was conveying his message in a very clear way that was understandable for anyone and she would just keep firing back with the same basic argument that he already answered. i find it funny how stubborn people can be. May Allah guide us.
You shouldn't think that way. It takes time, and what brother Ali did was plant the seed in her mind which she will definitely think about. We know women hate to admit defeat, which is why she didn't take the gift. But I guarantee she will do her research. imagine if she had intentions to accept Islam, but she stumbled across this comment which pushes her away.... Muslims these days are so judgmental, can you guys even imagine how hard it is for someone to accept a different religion? Stop assuming things, maybe she wanted information but in her mind she can only justify it by approaching this way. The human mind is very complex
It's interesting how she kept the umbrella held open the entire time, maybe subconsciously she felt it gave her comfort and security because it gave herself cover.. it makes me think of the fitrah of women and how we are instructed to draw veils over ourselves as protection from excessive gaze or that which could potentially be unsafe. Subhan Allah
REPENT FROM YOUR SINS AND TURN TO THE LORD JESUS THE CHRIST, THE SON OF GOD TO BE SAVED!! MAN IS DAMNED TO HELL FOR ETERNITY FOR HIS SINS AND THERE IS NOTHING YOU CAN DO TO AVOID IT!!!!! BUT THERE IS SOMETHING THAT GOD DID DO!! HE GAVE HIS ONLY TRUE SON, THE LORD JESUS CHRIST SO THAT WHOEVER BELIEVES IN HIM WILL BE SAVED!!!!!!! DONATING A DATE, HELPING THE POOR, SAVING SOMEONES LIFE WON'T GET YOU TO HEAVEN!!!!! BRIBERY WON'T WORK ON GOD! SOMEONE HAD TO PAY THE FINE AND THAT WAS THE LORD JESUS CHRIST!!!!! ISLAM SAYS BEAT YOUR WIFE INTO SUBMISSION, MUHHAMAD MARRIED A 5 YEAR OLD GIRL AND HAD SEX WITH HER WHEN SHE WAS 9, quran SAYS YOU CAN HIRE A PROSTITUTE! ISLAM SAYS PERSECUTE CHRISTIANS AND JEWS AND THAT NON BELIEVERS ARE KEFFERS, THE DIRTIEST OF THE DIRTIEST OF THE LOWEST OF THE LOWEST OF ALL CREATION, ISLAM SAYS KISS BLACK STONE!!! ARE YOU PAGANS! GOD HATES THAT BEHAVIOR BUT ISLAM TEACHES IT!!!! MUHAMMAD SAID WOMAN HAS HALF A BRAIN!! HE SAID YOUR MOTHER, YOUR AUNT, YOUR SISTER AND FEMALE COUSIN HAVE HALF A BRAIN!!! ARE YOU GONNA TAKE THAT TERRIBLE DISHONOUR AND STAY A PART OF THIS! CHOOSE YOU THIS DAY WHOM YOU WILL SERVE! AS ME FOR ME AND MY HOUSE, WE WILL SERVE THE LORD!!! REPENT AND TURN TO THE LORD JESUS CHRIST FOR HE IS THE ONLY WAY TO THE FATHER, HE SAYS I AM THE WAY, THE TRUTH AND THE LIFE. NO MAN COMES TO THE FATHER EXCEPT THROUGH ME!! WHEN HE WAS WITH THE LADY AT THE WELL, HE SAID I AM HE, THE MESSIAH! JESUS SAID BEFORE ABRAHAM WAS, I AM!!!!!! THE LORD IS JESUS CHRIST WHO WILL COME!!
@@ddreamer789 what's ironic is that she says why should woman cover up in islam while their OWN bible says a woman should shave her head and they say islam oppresses woman 🙄
REPENT FROM YOUR SINS AND TURN TO THE LORD JESUS THE CHRIST, THE SON OF GOD TO BE SAVED!! MAN IS DAMNED TO HELL FOR ETERNITY FOR HIS SINS AND THERE IS NOTHING YOU CAN DO TO AVOID IT!!!!! BUT THERE IS SOMETHING THAT GOD DID DO!! HE GAVE HIS ONLY TRUE SON, THE LORD JESUS CHRIST SO THAT WHOEVER BELIEVES IN HIM WILL BE SAVED!!!!!!! DONATING A DATE, HELPING THE POOR, SAVING SOMEONES LIFE WON'T GET YOU TO HEAVEN!!!!! BRIBERY WON'T WORK ON GOD! SOMEONE HAD TO PAY THE FINE AND THAT WAS THE LORD JESUS CHRIST!!!!! ISLAM SAYS BEAT YOUR WIFE INTO SUBMISSION, MUHHAMAD MARRIED A 5 YEAR OLD GIRL AND HAD SEX WITH HER WHEN SHE WAS 9, quran SAYS YOU CAN HIRE A PROSTITUTE! ISLAM SAYS PERSECUTE CHRISTIANS AND JEWS AND THAT NON BELIEVERS ARE KEFFERS, THE DIRTIEST OF THE DIRTIEST OF THE LOWEST OF THE LOWEST OF ALL CREATION, ISLAM SAYS KISS BLACK STONE!!! ARE YOU PAGANS! GOD HATES THAT BEHAVIOR BUT ISLAM TEACHES IT!!!! MUHAMMAD SAID WOMAN HAS HALF A BRAIN!! HE SAID YOUR MOTHER, YOUR AUNT, YOUR SISTER AND FEMALE COUSIN HAVE HALF A BRAIN!!! ARE YOU GONNA TAKE THAT TERRIBLE DISHONOUR AND STAY A PART OF THIS! CHOOSE YOU THIS DAY WHOM YOU WILL SERVE! AS ME FOR ME AND MY HOUSE, WE WILL SERVE THE LORD!!! REPENT AND TURN TO THE LORD JESUS CHRIST FOR HE IS THE ONLY WAY TO THE FATHER, HE SAYS I AM THE WAY, THE TRUTH AND THE LIFE. NO MAN COMES TO THE FATHER EXCEPT THROUGH ME!! WHEN HE WAS WITH THE LADY AT THE WELL, HE SAID I AM HE, THE MESSIAH! JESUS SAID BEFORE ABRAHAM WAS, I AM!!!!!! THE LORD IS JESUS CHRIST WHO WILL COME!!
Do not force women to cover their faces and heads, and ankles, stupid people, No wonder Almighty God is punishing you in the whole world today and you think you are on right path. Fear Almighty God when you face him and HE will bring witnesses like me to show from the book what is written in it and you make it something based on your false beliefs and desires. did not Allah made Women Zinat/love-able and beautify for this world.??? see the verse below: زُيِّنَ لِلنَّاسِ حُبُّ ٱلشَّهَوَٰتِ مِنَ ٱلنِّسَآءِ وَٱلْبَنِينَ وَٱلْقَنَـٰطِيرِ ٱلْمُقَنطَرَةِ مِنَ ٱلذَّهَبِ وَٱلْفِضَّةِ وَٱلْخَيْلِ ٱلْمُسَوَّمَةِ وَٱلْأَنْعَـٰمِ وَٱلْحَرْثِ ذَٰلِكَ مَتَـٰعُ ٱلْحَيَوٰةِ ٱلدُّنْيَا وَٱللَّهُ عِندَهُۥ حُسْنُ ٱلْمَـَٔابِ 3:14 Beautified for mankind is love (of) and desire of [the] women and [the] sons and [the] heaps [the] stored up of [the] gold and [the] silver and [the]branded horses and [the] cattle and [the] tilled land That (is) provision (of) life (of) the world, but Allah with Him (is an) excellent [the] abode to return Now can you see Allah made them beautify and love-able in this word just like Sons and Gold and Silver and Branded Horses, Now why not you go and tell the whole world to FULLY COVER their sons and gold and branded horses (now a days branded cars)and never let anyone see them, Stupid people. Now almighty God is telling what to say for people like you. قُلْ مَنْ حَرَّمَ زِينَةَ اللّٰهِ الَّتِيَ أَخْرَجَ لِعِبَادِهِ وَالْطَّيِّبَاتِ مِنَ الرِّزْقِ ط قُلْ هِي لِلَّذِينَ آمَنُواْ فِي الْحَيَاةِ الدُّنْيَا خَالِصَةً يَوْمَ الْقِيَامَةِ ط كَذَلِكَ نُفَصِّلُ الآيَاتِ لِقَوْمٍ يَعْلَمُونَ (7:32) Say Who has forbidden the beauty which God has brought forth for His slaves and the pure things of sustenance,, Say … They (are) for those who believe during the life (of) the world exclusively for the Day (of) Resurrection Thus We explain the Signs for (the) people who know.,,,
This woman fails to accept where she has been proven wrong but continually tries to nit pick and find new points of arguments and brother Ali addresses every point in a very calm and respect manner.
@@Iclipsed yeah but its just the narrow mindedness. if you are wanting to learn about a religion. open your mind up and try to understand rather than finding every excuse to say how badly women are treated.
@@haris4023 She's finding excuses and Ali Dawah is correcting her, I feel we should be thankful that he's done that in response to her excuses; a constructive conversation at its best makes use when all questions are answered.
Great interaction. I love how confident and proud Ali is when he is demonstrating how Islam gives superior rights to women than feminism in a femist's face.
REPENT FROM YOUR SINS AND TURN TO THE LORD JESUS THE CHRIST, THE SON OF GOD TO BE SAVED!! MAN IS DAMNED TO HELL FOR ETERNITY FOR HIS SINS AND THERE IS NOTHING YOU CAN DO TO AVOID IT!!!!! BUT THERE IS SOMETHING THAT GOD DID DO!! HE GAVE HIS ONLY TRUE SON, THE LORD JESUS CHRIST SO THAT WHOEVER BELIEVES IN HIM WILL BE SAVED!!!!!!! DONATING A DATE, HELPING THE POOR, SAVING SOMEONES LIFE WON'T GET YOU TO HEAVEN!!!!! BRIBERY WON'T WORK ON GOD! SOMEONE HAD TO PAY THE FINE AND THAT WAS THE LORD JESUS CHRIST!!!!! ISLAM SAYS BEAT YOUR WIFE INTO SUBMISSION, MUHHAMAD MARRIED A 5 YEAR OLD GIRL AND HAD SEX WITH HER WHEN SHE WAS 9, quran SAYS YOU CAN HIRE A PROSTITUTE! ISLAM SAYS PERSECUTE CHRISTIANS AND JEWS AND THAT NON BELIEVERS ARE KEFFERS, THE DIRTIEST OF THE DIRTIEST OF THE LOWEST OF THE LOWEST OF ALL CREATION, ISLAM SAYS KISS BLACK STONE!!! ARE YOU PAGANS! GOD HATES THAT BEHAVIOR BUT ISLAM TEACHES IT!!!! MUHAMMAD SAID WOMAN HAS HALF A BRAIN!! HE SAID YOUR MOTHER, YOUR AUNT, YOUR SISTER AND FEMALE COUSIN HAVE HALF A BRAIN!!! ARE YOU GONNA TAKE THAT TERRIBLE DISHONOUR AND STAY A PART OF THIS! CHOOSE YOU THIS DAY WHOM YOU WILL SERVE! AS ME FOR ME AND MY HOUSE, WE WILL SERVE THE LORD!!! REPENT AND TURN TO THE LORD JESUS CHRIST FOR HE IS THE ONLY WAY TO THE FATHER, HE SAYS I AM THE WAY, THE TRUTH AND THE LIFE. NO MAN COMES TO THE FATHER EXCEPT THROUGH ME!! WHEN HE WAS WITH THE LADY AT THE WELL, HE SAID I AM HE, THE MESSIAH! JESUS SAID BEFORE ABRAHAM WAS, I AM!!!!!! THE LORD IS JESUS CHRIST WHO WILL COME!!
@@colinloh6427 So why are so many dissatisfied Muslim women under other videos of the same guy like about marrying a second wife, virginity, divorced woman etc? I think if any Muslim woman would say that she is not happy then she would be verbally abused by other Muslims and they would find some fault in her.
@@jurateb.9794 Hi sir/ma'am. I've learned more about Islam than before and you're right. My apologies for not delving deeper into the religion and just agreeing with the bogus, ludicrous statements that Islam projects to the world, especially regarding women. I find it hilarious that the Quran teaches men to lower their gazes when they cross paths with stunning, attractive women that make men feel some sort of way, until those women even have to veil themselves when the men themselves have no self-control. Irony at its finest. You're absolutely right. I apologize once more. Thank you.
I am a Muslima and I love to cover up. I can decide who can see my body and who doesn‘t and that I am not judged by my body. I wish every Woman could see it like that. Maybe it would be nice if another women explained it to her.
I totally respect that and understand that mindset, however it’s the same in reverse. As someone who doesn’t cover up, I also decide who can see my body when, because I choose what I want to wear. I think Ali explained some good points, however I would beg to differ on a big point - not covering yourself does not mean that you are OFFERING your body to anyone. Your body is simply there existing, nobody is entitled to it.
@@h077y At the end of the day, everyone has different opinions that they're entitled to. The most important thing that I hope people like you and others know about is that it is totally their choice whether to cover up or not; we encourage this because the Qur'an tells women to cover up, not us. If it were us, then the Qur'an would have no meaning.
I met this brother Ali dawah yesterday! Alhamdullilah his such a humble and kind man. Gave me lots of knowledge about Islam. May Allah keep u and your family happy
REPENT FROM YOUR SINS AND TURN TO THE LORD JESUS THE CHRIST, THE SON OF GOD TO BE SAVED!! MAN IS DAMNED TO HELL FOR ETERNITY FOR HIS SINS AND THERE IS NOTHING YOU CAN DO TO AVOID IT!!!!! BUT THERE IS SOMETHING THAT GOD DID DO!! HE GAVE HIS ONLY TRUE SON, THE LORD JESUS CHRIST SO THAT WHOEVER BELIEVES IN HIM WILL BE SAVED!!!!!!! DONATING A DATE, HELPING THE POOR, SAVING SOMEONES LIFE WON'T GET YOU TO HEAVEN!!!!! BRIBERY WON'T WORK ON GOD! SOMEONE HAD TO PAY THE FINE AND THAT WAS THE LORD JESUS CHRIST!!!!! ISLAM SAYS BEAT YOUR WIFE INTO SUBMISSION, MUHHAMAD MARRIED A 5 YEAR OLD GIRL AND HAD SEX WITH HER WHEN SHE WAS 9, quran SAYS YOU CAN HIRE A PROSTITUTE! ISLAM SAYS PERSECUTE CHRISTIANS AND JEWS AND THAT NON BELIEVERS ARE KEFFERS, THE DIRTIEST OF THE DIRTIEST OF THE LOWEST OF THE LOWEST OF ALL CREATION, ISLAM SAYS KISS BLACK STONE!!! ARE YOU PAGANS! GOD HATES THAT BEHAVIOR BUT ISLAM TEACHES IT!!!! MUHAMMAD SAID WOMAN HAS HALF A BRAIN!! HE SAID YOUR MOTHER, YOUR AUNT, YOUR SISTER AND FEMALE COUSIN HAVE HALF A BRAIN!!! ARE YOU GONNA TAKE THAT TERRIBLE DISHONOUR AND STAY A PART OF THIS! CHOOSE YOU THIS DAY WHOM YOU WILL SERVE! AS ME FOR ME AND MY HOUSE, WE WILL SERVE THE LORD!!! REPENT AND TURN TO THE LORD JESUS CHRIST FOR HE IS THE ONLY WAY TO THE FATHER, HE SAYS I AM THE WAY, THE TRUTH AND THE LIFE. NO MAN COMES TO THE FATHER EXCEPT THROUGH ME!! WHEN HE WAS WITH THE LADY AT THE WELL, HE SAID I AM HE, THE MESSIAH! JESUS SAID BEFORE ABRAHAM WAS, I AM!!!!!! THE LORD IS JESUS CHRIST WHO WILL COME!!
Everytime I hear someone says muslim women are oppressed because we have to wear a khimar (hijab that covers our chest area), I cant help but to laugh 😂 Sister, I was born in a muslim country, I as a girl was allowed education for free, my healthcare is free and I get to choose whom I married and Masha Allah my husband is doing his best to provide for me, and I can work, we are allowed to go to work. With hijab, we muslim women choose to wear it because we love Almighty God and we want to please him for all the blessings and sustenance that He had given us, not because someone else told us to. Its not even near oppressing to me. In marriage we have rights too, we are not our husband’s property. Don’t confuse Islam and Muslims, muslims can be bad they can choose not to follow the laws but they still call them muslims. Islam the religion itself is perfect. Thank you Ali for explaining how Islam actually values a woman.
@@blue_568yea me too i want the freedom to go to a hospital and blow myself up It doesnt work like that you gotta give up some freedom un order to get justice
@@IncessantWake People don't accept Islam so easily, give her some resources and time. People will not convert to another faith overnight, one should study the deen before converting. May Allah guide her
This is the best response I've read. So many other people are quick to insult and point fingers. In reality we don't know if she changes her mind at home when researching but reads nasty comments about her and changes her mind again
It may not be pride, she could just feel overwhelmed. It was a deep discussion. We are not ones to interpret how she feels but I do agree I hope she finds her peace as I hope we all do with Allah
REPENT FROM YOUR SINS AND TURN TO THE LORD JESUS THE CHRIST, THE SON OF GOD TO BE SAVED!! MAN IS DAMNED TO HELL FOR ETERNITY FOR HIS SINS AND THERE IS NOTHING YOU CAN DO TO AVOID IT!!!!! BUT THERE IS SOMETHING THAT GOD DID DO!! HE GAVE HIS ONLY TRUE SON, THE LORD JESUS CHRIST SO THAT WHOEVER BELIEVES IN HIM WILL BE SAVED!!!!!!! DONATING A DATE, HELPING THE POOR, SAVING SOMEONES LIFE WON'T GET YOU TO HEAVEN!!!!! BRIBERY WON'T WORK ON GOD! SOMEONE HAD TO PAY THE FINE AND THAT WAS THE LORD JESUS CHRIST!!!!! ISLAM SAYS BEAT YOUR WIFE INTO SUBMISSION, MUHHAMAD MARRIED A 5 YEAR OLD GIRL AND HAD SEX WITH HER WHEN SHE WAS 9, quran SAYS YOU CAN HIRE A PROSTITUTE! ISLAM SAYS PERSECUTE CHRISTIANS AND JEWS AND THAT NON BELIEVERS ARE KEFFERS, THE DIRTIEST OF THE DIRTIEST OF THE LOWEST OF THE LOWEST OF ALL CREATION, ISLAM SAYS KISS BLACK STONE!!! ARE YOU PAGANS! GOD HATES THAT BEHAVIOR BUT ISLAM TEACHES IT!!!! MUHAMMAD SAID WOMAN HAS HALF A BRAIN!! HE SAID YOUR MOTHER, YOUR AUNT, YOUR SISTER AND FEMALE COUSIN HAVE HALF A BRAIN!!! ARE YOU GONNA TAKE THAT TERRIBLE DISHONOUR AND STAY A PART OF THIS! CHOOSE YOU THIS DAY WHOM YOU WILL SERVE! AS ME FOR ME AND MY HOUSE, WE WILL SERVE THE LORD!!! REPENT AND TURN TO THE LORD JESUS CHRIST FOR HE IS THE ONLY WAY TO THE FATHER, HE SAYS I AM THE WAY, THE TRUTH AND THE LIFE. NO MAN COMES TO THE FATHER EXCEPT THROUGH ME!! WHEN HE WAS WITH THE LADY AT THE WELL, HE SAID I AM HE, THE MESSIAH! JESUS SAID BEFORE ABRAHAM WAS, I AM!!!!!! THE LORD IS JESUS CHRIST WHO WILL COME!!
"There is Islam and there are Muslims. there are Muslims who go out and commit atrocities and blow themselves up." Correct, and there are Muslims who commit the atrocity of circumcising their children. This is NOT Islam! The Qur'an is clear that Allah created the human body perfectly. Only terrorists circumcise their children.
Dear brother/sister scrolling through the comments😁 I am praying for your happiness, healing, heavenly bliss come knocking at your door of every goodness Allah sends down! And that soon for all the struggles you’ve shed tears for be replaced for you tears of rain of complete joy!
REPENT FROM YOUR SINS AND TURN TO THE LORD JESUS THE CHRIST, THE SON OF GOD TO BE SAVED!! MAN IS DAMNED TO HELL FOR ETERNITY FOR HIS SINS AND THERE IS NOTHING YOU CAN DO TO AVOID IT!!!!! BUT THERE IS SOMETHING THAT GOD DID DO!! HE GAVE HIS ONLY TRUE SON, THE LORD JESUS CHRIST SO THAT WHOEVER BELIEVES IN HIM WILL BE SAVED!!!!!!! DONATING A DATE, HELPING THE POOR, SAVING SOMEONES LIFE WON'T GET YOU TO HEAVEN!!!!! BRIBERY WON'T WORK ON GOD! SOMEONE HAD TO PAY THE FINE AND THAT WAS THE LORD JESUS CHRIST!!!!! ISLAM SAYS BEAT YOUR WIFE INTO SUBMISSION, MUHHAMAD MARRIED A 5 YEAR OLD GIRL AND HAD SEX WITH HER WHEN SHE WAS 9, quran SAYS YOU CAN HIRE A PROSTITUTE! ISLAM SAYS PERSECUTE CHRISTIANS AND JEWS AND THAT NON BELIEVERS ARE KEFFERS, THE DIRTIEST OF THE DIRTIEST OF THE LOWEST OF THE LOWEST OF ALL CREATION, ISLAM SAYS KISS BLACK STONE!!! ARE YOU PAGANS! GOD HATES THAT BEHAVIOR BUT ISLAM TEACHES IT!!!! MUHAMMAD SAID WOMAN HAS HALF A BRAIN!! HE SAID YOUR MOTHER, YOUR AUNT, YOUR SISTER AND FEMALE COUSIN HAVE HALF A BRAIN!!! ARE YOU GONNA TAKE THAT TERRIBLE DISHONOUR AND STAY A PART OF THIS! CHOOSE YOU THIS DAY WHOM YOU WILL SERVE! AS ME FOR ME AND MY HOUSE, WE WILL SERVE THE LORD!!! REPENT AND TURN TO THE LORD JESUS CHRIST FOR HE IS THE ONLY WAY TO THE FATHER, HE SAYS I AM THE WAY, THE TRUTH AND THE LIFE. NO MAN COMES TO THE FATHER EXCEPT THROUGH ME!! WHEN HE WAS WITH THE LADY AT THE WELL, HE SAID I AM HE, THE MESSIAH! JESUS SAID BEFORE ABRAHAM WAS, I AM!!!!!! THE LORD IS JESUS CHRIST WHO WILL COME!!
Don't forget the reply and answer of the prophet to a question a man once asked: The man asked: "Oh Prophet, who is *more* deserving of my kind treatment?" The Prophet (pbuh) replied: "Your mother" The man asked: "Then who?" The Prophet (pbuh) replied: "Your mother" The man asked: "Then who?" The Prophet (pbuh) replied: "Your mother" The man asked: "Then who?" The Prophet (pbuh) replied: "Then your father" The mother was 3 times and the father was once. This is because the mother struggles more than the father such as in labor, taking care of, etc. in 'general'. This doesn't mean you should go disobey your father, it means that the mother (women) go through a lot, and therefore you should give them better treatment with all your heart, while also obeying your father and loving him as well!
Islam loves and protects it’s women. I love it here 🥰❤️ Alhamdulliah for Islam Great Ali. Knowing the truth, truly brings a peace no one can bring but Allah ❤️
Yet they still say Islam opresses women even though so many of them show their love for Islam and the correct term for women oppression should be "Cultures and some muslims opress women" not Islam. Anyways Jazaki Allah Khair Sister 🙏
@Shafi Khalili Mohammad PBUH does not need to have a certain amount of Wives? And what's so wrong with having 7 wives as long as you can provide for them equally and treat them fairly??
You can never change a persons perception of Islam when they are here to misunderstand it, her attitude shows it all. May Allah Swt open her heart and guide her Insha’Allah
In western weddings, the father walks the bride down the altar and gives her away. By her logic that should be seen as equally as sexist and oppressive, nonsense 🤦🏽♂️
Forever wearing my burka Love Islam, every letter and every word is precious in our Quran and our sunnah, not going to change it for anything in the world... Love you Allah swt and our Prophet swt Proud muslimah here
We should always keep in mind that we all gonna die one day. So do good deeds and make ppl happy no matter what religion or race they belong to. Just a reminder.
May Allah bless Ali with the highest Jannah. He broke it down clearly. If only I was half as good at dawah I'd help guide people with Allah's permission
? it's the same with the Christians with their weddings where the father gives off their daughter. so why is she implicating that only Islam supposedly oppresses women?
@@444TripleH He is right though; not all men will understand one another but your father is your parent; he is the guardian in Islam because men had the type of abilities for it. Filial piety is demanded off both men and women.
@@cinna_sultan oh yeah I defo agree with ali, being Muslim myself. Men being responsible over women… matter of fact. Men having the responsibility of being leaders is a blessing from Allah, not a curse. Alhamdulilah for Islam.
The changed and CORRUPTED quran dilemma = allah(peace be upon HER) is 100% FALSE : 'A'isha (Allah be pleased with, her) reported that it had been revealed in the Holy Qur'an that ten clear sucklings make the marriage unlawful, then it was abrogated (and substituted) by five sucklings and Allah's Apostle (ﷺ) died and it was before that time (found) in the Holy Qur'an (and recited by the Muslims). sahih muslim 1452a, book 17, hadith 30 Show me in the quran the verse of the 5 sucklings
You can tell by looking at her face that towards the end she stopped listening "Do they not travel through the land, so that their hearts (and minds) may thus learn wisdom and their ears may thus learn to hear? Truly it is not their eyes that are blind, but their hearts which are in their breasts." - Surah Al-Hajj Ayat 46
So that's unjust by family not the rules in their religion.. thinking rationally about it. Speaking of this there's rules of divorce too where man needs to give the women compensations if they bear a child so I guess check that out?
Intelligent guy, must be exhausted after all the conversations he has in one day. Agreed with it all, Islam is great when good men are involved. I am now inspired to sexualize women less. I am not Muslim. Not sure if I want to be part of a religious body because I think I can worship God anywhere aslong as I do right by him. I grew up Catholic.
Its just a claim bro. Islam is the way to wrong path. It tells to kill whoever leaves Islam. And its God which is Satan telling to go for War until everyone becomes muslim. It uses deception to deceive Innocent peoples.
@@yankee2114 Whoever leaves Islam, Kill Him? Is it wrong or not? Your Muhammed has told this. Ibn 'Abbas said: "The Messenger of Allah [SAW] said: 'Whoever changes his religion, kill him.'" Grade: Sahih (Darussalam) Reference : Sunan an-Nasa'i 4059 In-book reference : Book 37, Hadith 94 English translation : Vol. 5, Book 37, Hadith 4064
@@WordsVerse Reverts were a threat back then, they used to spread fitna (making people leave or hate each with lies) and even killing muslims sometimes which caused revert wars, because some people used to say that they're the prophets and attacked random muslims, so reverts were a threat and Quran speaks to every era with their understanding and their cultures, some people thought earth is flat, Quran said a verse that would make you feel that it says that earth is flat but the true meaning was earth layers, and it knew that space keeps getting bigger from a long while, so go and tell someone back then "Prepare your tanks in future to attack enemies." what would they say? they'll just laugh about it, but Quran came to make the old era understand it and fits perfectly with the new era, and our prophet took a massive army for kuffar to pray into mecca, the kuffar were scared, and he left them to go without any fight which shows mercy. Slaves used to get beaten and sexually used and never got paid, when muslims came they caused freedom for most of slaves and if you say "Muslims had slaves too!" I'll answer with that they used to get paid and Omar himself used to feed them from his own plate and eat with them and they didn't do any hard jobs, just sending messages which is something like mailman job nowadays. Islam tells you to respect all other religions. Let's talk about Jizya, Jizya was a taxation for non-muslims but it was cheap, even muslim used to pay zakat to help poor people which was a higher price than Jizya, but Jizya was made for a reason to make you get up and find a job so the city won't be late and also to make sure you agree on muslim lead and if you had any sort of problems, you won't pay, and only men pay it except monks and slaves, and if you don't pay a very small price even if you have enough money you deserve to leave or being killed or paying it later if your payment comes late, but don't sit on millions and refuse to pay 10 out of these millions, you're just showing you're against the system. We support women rights except those bad ones who lead to non-marriage sex or leaving the child without taking care of him, but any woman can have a job and they must be respected even if they're in different religion. Islam came to end racism, arabs were the most racist nations before Islam came, when Islam came it united all races against tyrants of the world. Did we spread our religion with swords? Sorry to fail your beliefs here but no, well what actually happened that enemy tried to wipe us and ended up losing so there's no shame taking lands from them without HARMING any CITIZENS. Islam tells you to respect your parents even if they're pushing you to atheism. So look my friend, I'm a sunni muslim, there's difference between sunni and shia, Shia, well I can't blame them all but most of them think the Opposite of what I said, Sunni muslim prefer peace and they like christians and jews, but when christians or jews or whatever passes the red line and keeps targeting us, there's no shame protecting ourselves, but without harming innocents. We don't insult other religions as well because this way we will be the reason why they're insulting our god so we will just commit a big sin here. and I got nothing against you friend, I'm just seeking the truth, if you want to ask any other questions ask, and I advice you to read Qur'an, even if you're going to be muslim or not, but just to see what islam really says. Islam says that we have our religion and they have theirs, we both don't argue for this. Good luck, friend.
The sad reality is also Muslim sisters are starting to have the view of why we have to cover it breaks my heart to hear that JazakAllah khair Brother Ali May reward you Jannatul Firdous Ameen!
The father is generally more protective and suspicious of another man who wants to be with his daughter. So it makes more sense for the father to decide.
My brother Ali. You complicate things. You should let her know not only do men need to lower their gaze but cover certain areas of their body as well just as women have been ordained to do. Allah knows the nature of man and women. If women were visual creatures I’m sure the men would be walking around with hijabs as well. Furthermore, men are the protectors of women. So if you have your wife dress provocatively and essentially encroaching attention from creepy men, this act alone makes a man’s job as a protector harder as he has to protect his wife every time she is approached. We can even go further than this, studies show that when a woman dressed a certain way, the part of the mains brain that is utilized to work with tools and objects LIGHTS UP. This means the brain is thinking that the woman is a literal object and should be used and objectified. It is a mere tool. The list goes on…