Islamic Politics and the Caliphate: A Conversation with Dr. Hatem el Haj 

Really, lol.

He sais Casablanca to Jakarta. He should ve said AddarulBaidaa to Jakarta 👍

It already does... we just need to help muslims act like better Muslims.. we don't need a world government which will end up being oppressive and tyrannical anyway..

@@ahmadjuwayni6256 you don’t think the Taliban and the Ayatollah are oppressive and tyrannical?

​@@ahmadjuwayni6256 A human doesn't dictate what should be the Socio-economic-political structure looks like.. Allâh made Khilāfah Fard ul Kifayah then it should the priority of Ummah. Period. Dont make excuses or show Nifāq to run from Islām now.

Allah says live alone or not?🤔

…was rarely the case for the vast majority of Muslim history.

And in the darkness bind them!

What's important is the command of Allâh and following them. And yes, despite conflict, there was ALWAYS an Islamic leadership on Earth until today.

makes zero sense and absolutely a useless fantasy.

This will never happen. 2 billion muslims and one leader? Lol it's impossible. Nationalism and ethnic conflicts will always be in the way

Many points raised about how it is an overly simplified topic

i*sis tried and see what happened to them brother ???!!

It's not going to happen. Individual states are never going to give up authority, too risky. Best closest approximate is something like the EU.

I don't know how to respond to a perspective like that of you. You are just one step away from the guys in Toyotas roaming around streets of raqqa and at mighty and costly and der*ng*d pipe dreams, achieved not a shred of anything that can be called positive or constructive. How can you be so detached from reality? Did you just finish watching your daily dose of p*rn and now decided to give your stale takes in the internet comment sections. 50+ countries and 1/4th of earths population and we can't do anything about a minuscule place like gaza. And if such a global political entity is possible, you already have an OIC or Arab League, which is just one step away from becoming a shura to a Caliph. It is always a great thing to have iman and have faith in the power of the creator, but my dude! You can't read a surah and decide to lift a mountain on your back, lol. Or you cannot have a dua and decide to jump from a plane. Now wonder if people have a phobia about people like you. I don't disagree with the idea, I think it is a noble one. But it is the people like you, detached from reality and high on blindfolded ignorance who often get to take initiatives, constructed by your almost non-existent grey matter, that is the sorry state of the Ummah.

Of course that's the ideal. But how do we get there? That's what they are discussing.

did you see what happened to i*s*i*s tho brother ??!

I am willing to join your cause, I would like to know the first strategy you have, which government do we overthrow first and replace it with whom?

@@heybudstfunowWait, so ISIS was calling for a dar al islam?

No it’s not look the Taliban,Iran and ISIS and Muslim brotherhood all violent and corrupt

The Mahdi AS will come and do that inshaAllah

I meant to mention that the rest of the world were not asleep when Muslims ruled for 800 years

The Sheikh did so here with Uthman Badr and Imam Tom - ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-1dKOF0rZvJQ.htmlsi=1BhvFYiNmgE_fiNl

He's discussed this with Uthman badar

Salaam! The shaykh's strongest evidence for his position is the history of what happend in the Muslim world from the time of the death of Hassan ibn Ali, and there was no mention of Ibn Taymiyya's statement on this issue in the book entitled, "The Political thought of Ibn Taymiyya " he said," the name of the Islamic authority is not the most important thing.What is essential is"al Kitabu hadi wa Saif an Nasir" the guiding book and the helping sword! In other words the Quran and Shari'ah and the power to establish and enforce it!

Allah gave the formula and we have to figure out how to implement that formula in our place and time. If the formula was enough, then why the rightly guided Caliphs used to sit in Shura with other Sahaba and discuss how to implement the guidance in the Qur'an and Sunnah?

Because Allah is too weak and useless and they know it. There is not a single Calipha that Muslims universally accepted so far. 3 out of 4 so called "Rashiuddin" caliphas were killed by their fellow muslims themselves. First guy only lived 2 years otherwise he would have met the same fate. So Muslims know All is too weak to give them a Calipha for 1400 years and they dont believe in Alla any more

Allah didn’t prescribed the so called caliphate it was just the name of the political movement after the death of the prophet and it changed to kingdoms later in modern times caliphate is the civil democratic system

There are differences. The Day is coming whether you want it or not. The khilafah will NOT come if we dont want it, which is where we are now. We have over 50 national republics and scores of monarchies. The majority accept kufr legal systems from tye West instead of Islam. Our leaders intentionally misguide us to go against the khilafah, as the Prophet (saws) warned us they would do near the last days.

Ottomans were never a shield for Egyptians or Palestinians. They were just plunderers and destroyers though modernists and ikhwanies consider them khulafa.

​​@@al-Baa7ith-3an-il-Ma3rifah Lmao, then change the Khalifāh if they implement Kufr but Zulm is not an excuse in Islām, just as you dont do in other stable systems. You consider Islām Framework based Khilāfah system to be worse than a Taghūti systems like Egypt, turkey, Saudi or other capitalist secular Jāhiliyyah. Such a shameful reasoning being a Muslim.

Brother make sure you guys work to create unity among Habeshi Muslims. My understanding is that there is huge no of population but very disintegrated society

Ameen. InshaAllah the Mahdi will do just that

Why? Was it getting too technical or something?

Why?

well any negative reaction will just be embaressing and from a dark place

No, they are not the biggest, but only keyboard warriors are doing something while others do nothing. Planning to do something is doing something, but doing something without any good plan is doing nothing :)

cool story bro

Slm,hope you are not among the warriors.

Lol. People know that what these guys are doing is placate the muslim sentiment.

Everyone is entitled to their opinion. Dont take anyone as authority

It will never be stablished because it was a mid evil political system

That sound like a start. Where are you located?

Shifting the capital shift every 5 years would be very counterproductive. There shoule be no problem centring the capital in Madinah, while maintaining a provincial capital in every 'Republic member'

Why u think that ?

Sahaba never doubted it in Khandaq when RasūlAllahﷺ said regarding the conquering of two Superpowers of the time. What makes you doubt today? Stay firm in the Deen and strive to make it victorious, Nasruminallah wa fathun qareeb

Awwwww, are you scared that a caliphate will mean the fall of the gulf puppet kings and princes whom you worship? How cute!

We majority of Turks are absolutely against Turkısh involvement in any religious notion of khalifa. We are a democracy, we fought hard to get rid of the Arabist version of Islam. In Turkey men don’t have the upper hand, he can’t marry more than one woman, he doesn’t have the upper hand in getting divorced, etc. We want to keep it that way.democracy is the best representation of islam. As for your clear misunderstanding of the Turan is the union, which is not based on domination of any nation. It is the cooperation of Turkic peoples for mutual benefits. That should concern no one nor should it concern of any one but Turks.

What's the Hanbali ruling on cursing people?

What is the hanbali opinion on the obligation of a united khilafah and its priority?

Keep your non-functional religio-fascism to yourself.

You mean Taliban

Then so be it. We must do what Allah commanded of us.

if we could live fine as minorities or well in Muslim majorities, then explain our situation in the last 100 years ... the fact is these "countries" are a direct byproduct of colonial take over of former lands of Islam and on top are in the firm grip of our colonizers because of their lackeys literally being put in positions of power before they left So then how can we seek to live under complete Islam in this present reality where the so called Muslim majority countries are ruled by iron fist? Easy to say each country should look to reform but there seems to be a clear disconnect in recognizing the actual roadblocks that ensure those reforms don't take place. The ruling elite are heavily entrenched and will stop at nothing to neutralize any such effort. As long as the elephant in the room, the power brokers, remains unchallenged, it does not matter how many individuals per say become pious. We are unlikely to witness a holistic revival. The ideal would be to have work done among the masses to build a collective understanding of Islam as a comprehensive system that can address our problems and have the sincere among the elite with means to create a ripple effect on board.

as far as I understand, establishing Allah's deen means in no way to enforce personal level bindings in any way. it's absolutely forbidden for the state to enforce Deen's personal level ahkam's on anyone. establishment of deen only means that there must be justice at state level, the judicial system will act according to the laws derived from Shriya's fundamentals when it comes to dealing with criminal actions.

Khilafah is a specific legal system. The furu' fiqh of Hajj exemplifies how the entire Muslim Ummah can be organized and to follow a collective will, intelligence, behavior throughout the hours of the day, day by day, for specific time periods. Setting aside national limitations, in theory every hajj could be 10s of millions performing in unison. The khilafah system as exemplified by the khulafa rashidoon provides the Ummah the way to reimplementing khilafah in totality and specificity, for The Cause of Allah. Remember, the Cause of Allah means: Divine Revelation of The Holy Quran, and Sunnah, supercedes human machinations.

Yes, there are specific ahkaam which form a system with definitve legal parameters, rather than mere principles without specific legal structures.

It means establishing religio-fascism.

Or does it mean imposing people like baghdadi or mullah umer on muslims.

me too, i’m an ex-salafi

there is no establishing khilafah in your family lol that's fake brother and just makes you feel good

Maudoodi was a genuine scholar much ahead of his time. He is the top most political philosopher in modern history of Islam

Oh, what a delightful fantasy we've stumbled upon! Imagine, if you will, a world where all Muslim-majority countries surrender their sovereignty to a singular, omnipotent "supreme leader." Yes, because clearly, centuries of diverse cultural evolution, distinct legal systems, and independent political developments are just minor hiccups to be swept under the grand rug of unity. Picture the harmony of cultural differences magically dissolving as everyone embraces the same traditions and interpretations of Islam. Sunni, Shia, Wahhabi-why not throw in a few more denominations for good measure? After all, religious unity has always been a hallmark of peace in the region, hasn't it? And let's not forget the political landscape. Those pesky democracies, monarchies, and autocracies can finally join hands in a blissful dance of uniform governance. What a quaint idea that countries with starkly different political systems would happily submit to a single constitution. Who cares about the intricate legal frameworks meticulously developed over centuries? Economic disparities? Pish posh! The wealth of oil-rich nations can surely trickle down seamlessly to the poorer ones. It's not like economic policy or resource management ever leads to conflict. Just imagine the joyous redistribution of wealth-Saudi riches flowing freely into Somalia and Yemen. Utopia achieved! Oh, the linguistic kaleidoscope of Arabic, Turkish, Persian, Urdu, and dozens of other languages will blend effortlessly. A Babelian paradise where everyone suddenly understands each other, all thanks to our supreme leader's divine linguistic unification powers. Of course, historical animosities and national pride are mere trivialities. Centuries of rivalry and conflict will evaporate overnight as everyone unites under the banner of the United Muslim League. Nationalism? Just a fleeting fad! Sectarian divides? What sectarian divides? The proposal's sheer brilliance will make Sunnis and Shias embrace in an eternal brotherly hug. Military autonomy? Who needs it? Let's just pool all our armies and see how wonderfully that works out. Human rights? Well, those varied standards across different countries will just harmonize themselves. Women's rights in Saudi Arabia, free speech in Iran, and religious freedom in Pakistan-it's a melting pot of rights! Leadership legitimacy, you say? Simple! The supreme leader will obviously be accepted by all. Why wouldn't they? Accountability? A quaint concept for those not enlightened by this proposal's genius. And, of course, the logistics! Imagine the seamless coordination required to manage this utopia-no room for resistance, corruption, or security risks. The local governance and public support will naturally fall into place, because who wouldn't want to be part of this grand design? International relations will be a breeze. The world will surely welcome this monolithic entity with open arms. Economic integration will occur without a hitch, and all resources will be managed equitably and without dispute. In the end, who needs practical, nuanced approaches when you can have such a splendidly idealistic vision? Implementation is just a minor detail in this grand scheme. After all, what could possibly go wrong? Come out of fantasy land

Do you know the comic "Isnogud" with a theme of constant fight of "wanting to be the kalif instead of the kalif". You might enjoy it.