I mean... if you listen to his arguments, he is basically always right, cause he is assuming c0 yelan vs xingqiu, if yelan is like c1+ then sure... she is a better option by a significant amount there.
@@thesages3004 what he said isn't even true tho. If you miss vape with Yelan in AoE, you also miss vape with Xingqiu because he's also a single target hydro applier. At least Yelan buffs Hu Tao's dmg while Xingqiu doesn't even do anything.
I always have a probem whenever someone talks about wrio, i always think they are understimating him, but then i remember that i have c1, and thats why he feels so good, if his base kit was with c1 he would be so much better ranked
Me same, but it's even worse, cause I have c3 by being very lucky (he is also top 1% akasha), and like Wrio Zajef is talking about and my Wrio are two completely different characters)))
Wriothesley at C0 can still be very good. I recommend playing Wriothesley, shenhe, furina, xianyun and do plunge attacks instead of normal attacks. Each plunge can deal like 100k so its pretty strong. Plus the plunges are AoE. Personally i have him at c1 with 2400 atk, 2pc marachausee-2pc wanderers troupe, 66/245, 10/10/8, and using lost prayer. He is so good at solo-ing overworld content that it becomes boring to eliminate enemies at such rate (for some reasons the rank that akasha shows is glitched because it considers ‘lost prayer to the sacred winds’ as ‘cashflow supervision’ hence the crit ratio on akasha is 55/245)
I have had zero issues with my baizhu's energy in solo dendro since i switched him to sac frag. E, cancel animation with Q, E again instantly since sac frags will proc (and hell catch the particles) during your burst animation and either catch the particles if you have lower ER or cancel the second E animation by swapping! 2 e's worth of energy makes around 150-160 er work pretty well for me personally!
I can't take it anymore. I'm sick of xiangling. I try to play diluc. My xiangling deals more damage. I try to play yoimiya. My xiangling deals more damage. I try to play Hu tao. My xiangling deals more damage. I want to play Wriothesley. His best team has xiangling. I want to play raiden, childe. They both want xiangling. She grabs me by the throat. I fish for her. I cook for her. I give her the catch. She isn't satisfied. I pull engulfing lightning. "I don't need this much er" She tells me. "Give me more field time." She grabs bennett and forces him to throw himself off enemies. "You just need to funnel me more. I can deal more damage with homa." I can't pull for homa, I don't have enough primogems. She grabs my credit card. It declines. "Guess this is the end." She grabs gouba. She says "Gouba, get them." There is no hint of sadness in his eyes. Nothing but pure, no icd pyro application. What a cruel world.
I would take unit like wrio who has alot of decent options imo rather than very good in one but inting their assess off on other teams. Those decent teams can still beat everything convincingly anyway.
@@Med1umentorHoney you have no idea, try use him everywhere else other than international and is just decent at best, none can replicate that satisfaction to Vape with no ICD.
I was planning to go for his C1 but thanks to Xianyun, with Wrio-Benny-XL-Xianyun, I can combo with plunges for big melts without any worry, heck I don't need to CA cause his PA multipliers are high and has decent AOE, just gonna sweep in NA's to activate the MH set bonus.
Normally? Aggravate doesn't get much from a Xianyun/Furina-buffed Plunge attack since it's additive rather than multiplicative like Melt/Vape. At that point you'd rather run raw electro damage and ignore any of his kit's innate synergy with EM and reactions.
@@youraverageguy4930 It's more about the synergy with his very long field time. Most buffs doesn't last long enough for Cyno to make full use of. It's true that Aggravate doesn't benefit as much as Vape/Melt with Xianyun, but Plunge ATK still has no ICD, so it's not a complete waste. You can probably do some weird combos with it (like Hu Tao but a lot longer).
@@TrueGovern62 Uh yes. Even multi wave Cyno runs are faster with Nahida c0 standards. Even Cyno TC mains like Noir absolutely reccomend Nahida. This isn’t like haithem where it’s a matter of damage preference. Cyno just does more with nahida’s buff ASSUMING alternative options apply enough dendro.
Saw a chatter saying that Cyno QuickBloom is Omega cope and Quickbloom is for spread carries.. That's how you know the chatter haven't tested the character or saw character's calcs and makes assumptions out of their mind..
This! It's actually insane to me how they think a quickbloom DPS can be considered "cope". I realise that they may not like his gameplay but he still does insane dmg.
People shit on Cyno from their own stupidity, c2r1 Cyno has more dpr than c2r1 raiden but they refuse to accept that, Cyno is also very similar to other hyper carries like Xiao who needs 2x the support to function but they get way less hate for some reason smh. I still use my c4 Cyno over my c6 yae miko sometimes because he feels like a beast right now. Also most of them watch zajefs skill issue gameplay and then listen to his feels crafting takes on characters he can’t even play right😭
Xiangling,Xinquiu, Yelan and Furina are the MVPs in most Wriosthesley teams. Hopefully we get some better cryo healers and buffers so the ass man can shine in mono cryo.
I want Wriothesley because I have this thing where I like having one carry of each element, and even though I have Ganyu, she's so freaking BORING to play I just... don't play her anymore. In comparison Wriothesley's gameplay looks fun af. I already have all the best units of the game, and I can 36 star the abyss with my eyes closed, I can afford pulling characters for fun. Also I'm down bad for all that *C A K E*
I gotta say, Navia as solo Geo isn't really that bad. Mine has about 120% ER and in this Abyss I went Furina/Yelan/Jean on the 2nd half and, not only did I clear in time, I didn't have a lot of problems with Navia since you can use EQ, do the rest of the rotation and come back to Navia with her Skill available again. Her ER needs aren't really that high.
miHoYo are at the point where they can comfortably release more powerful and powerful characters, thereby powercreeping the old ones. And also, they can just ignore their playerbase which brings them billions of dollars, which is sad, but true.
@@nikumilotic1333it's not about clearing abyss, even amber can clear abyss but the new characters just have better kit and power level compared to old ones so it's a powercreep
I was regretting pulling baizu till I got furina because holy the er needs in teams where he’s the only dendro feels awful and he wasn’t better in any double dendro teams than nahida so you just suffered, now alhaitham/furina/baizhu/kuki(or raiden) slaps and he doesn’t feel like a waste
8:41 no he is not cope in freeze teams exactly. Use Wrio, furina, xianyun, shenhe. This team can dish out 100k plunges from Wrio in AoE. Also it doesn’t have a knockback problem like xiao team does plus the fact that it freezes enemies in one spot helps a lot. Also the AoE helps.
@thiagobarroso1119 Ayaka feels so clunky with her alt dash. I can never get use to her playstyle. i prefer Wriothesley string of NA. Salute to Ayaka main tho, cus that dash just pain
Maybe he talks about his CA that drains his HP that limits his number of stacks for his skill, a pyro kokomi will be great with him yet Benny already fills that role with addition of ATK buff.
He is talking about is the enemies having to have a pyro aura so Lyney can get the damage bonus. This reduces the number of characters you can play with him, specially if you don 't use a pyro of field applier like Xiangling.
When did zajeff went from shit talking about characters with low numbers (wrio, cyno) to defending them. His harshness has so much helped me in the past to take good decisions 👍
He always have a good point because Xingqiu is too good, which we already get it because his that great, but I feel you for getting tired non-stop compliments he have for him but this time its not out of pocket.
You cannot have a Heizou pfp and not also participate in Xingqiu glazing, taser literally has both of them in it lmfao Off fielders like Xingqiu are the entire basis of Heizou gameplay
Because it is, people just cringe over the fact that its bow charged atk gameplay Wriothesley at C0 is pretty objectively worse than both Ganyu and Ayaka in pretty much everything I guess he is better than Ganyu in single target freeze, but thats it really
@@grazz9626 I disagree. Having “main-ed” both of em, wrio definitely feels more suitable for reverse melt than ganyu. But I find that freeze is much more satisfying with ganyu considering she has greater AOE
zajef really thinks yelan and furina are not enough to vape all of hu tao's attacks lol. stop this xinqiu dikliker EDIT: also, navia has no ER issues as solo geo since you prefunnel 1 E before your rotation. then you get 2 E's at the end, plus furina,XY,benny particles. it's more than enough.
He said it CAN be inconsistent in practice which reflects what others found right after XY's release if I'm not mistaken, including Jstern. Also, actually taking advantage of Navia 3E rotations requires, well, clearing in one rotation.
@@sweatymobilegamer784 nope. navia's first rotation using 3E leads into a second rotation where you only use 2E, and it's only on the third rotation that you MIGHT have an ER issue, that is if we don't count any enemy particles at all... which is unpractical given that every enemy should be dead by your second rotation in this team. and even IF you have issues on the third rotation, you can just do an extra E before finishing the chamber if you're not speed running... the rotation is consistent. everything else is skill issue, which zajef clearly has since he stans XQ over yelan...
@@raulmaltrain6893 Exactly. A second rotation where. You. Only. Use. 2E. I'm assuming a "normal" amount of enemy particles have already been assumed for whatever you're saying is misrepresenting her. I'm not saying this is any different than some other units in practice (like solo hydro Neuvi one-rotating stuff), but sheets always make the assumption of continuous rotations and I'm not exactly sure how you think saying that the 2nd rotation uses 2Es is doing anything except reinforcing my own point. Also, check Jstern's Xianyun first impressions video. You can literally see a pyro aura get applied onto PMA in a couple clips of the Hu Tao team. Again, it's on that point of borderline consistency where Furina's RNG does have the final say unless you go out of the way to either delay your plunges or use extra NAs to drive additional Yelan burst waves.
@@sweatymobilegamer784 why calc for 3 continous rotations when no enemy survives them? The team with 0er on navia can do 2 rotations 100% of the time. And if you do get some er on navia this entire point is irrelevant Also, you want to mix na's with hutao to keep the aura, you have more than enough time to do so.
@@raulmaltrain6893 JFC. You are assuming a burst on the second Navia rotation, correct? Your whole argument was about her ER% reqs on sheets in solo geo being inflated without 3Es. THIS is perfectly valid in terms of analyzing her practical potential the same way it is for, say, Ayaka w/Shenhe, but why should we be sheeting Navia that way when we don't do the same for others (unless there's some example you know of that's actually gotten attention that you feel is unfair towards her)? But now you're insisting it works for 2 rotations per chamber when each second rotation by your own explicit description would only receive the particles from 2 of her 5 total Es? And as for the Hu Tao thing- guess what she DOESN'T have to do with XQ? You guessed it- cut time from the rest of her DPS window to do extra NAs.