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Israel's Existential Threat From Within 

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Warning: this episode contains descriptions of violence.
In the last year, the world’s eyes have been on the war in Gaza, which still has no end in sight. But there is a conflict in another Palestinian territory that has gotten far less attention, where life has become increasingly untenable: the West Bank.
Ronen Bergman, who has been covering the conflict, explains why things are likely to get worse, and the long history of extremist political forces inside Israel that he says are leading the country to an existential crisis.
Guest: Ronen Bergman (www.nytimes.co...) , a staff writer for The New York Times Magazine.
Background reading:
• How extremist settlers took over Israel (www.nytimes.co...) .
• What is the West Bank (www.nytimes.co...) and who controls it?
For more information on today’s episode, visit nytimes.com/thedaily (nytimes.com/the...) . Transcripts of each episode will be made available by the next workday.

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@Bizibee483
@Bizibee483 5 дней назад
Finally! This story needed to be told a long time ago, but I’m glad it’s finally being told.
@thesilkpainter
@thesilkpainter 5 дней назад
This story is being told and has been told. In Europe even in Germany were people totally shy away from criticising Israel. Understandable, but not helpful.
@Bizibee483
@Bizibee483 5 дней назад
⁠​⁠In the US it is very hard to find popular main stream platforms give a straightforward full view of the story. Instead, typically they ignore the illegal settlements in West Bank entirely and then point to things like “Palestinians were given so many chances at peace and kept walking away from it”. So it’s nice to see this story finally being told on a platform like this in the way it was.
@PaulMcEvoyGuitars
@PaulMcEvoyGuitars 5 дней назад
Well the NY Times has been complicit with the genocide in Gaza since day 1. The story has been told all over the place, but not there.
@harshamahtani5554
@harshamahtani5554 5 дней назад
Is it any wonder Oct 7 happened? The Palestinians have been dealing with Israeli terrorism since BEFORE Israel was even taken from them to create its own State. The US is complicit in EVERYTHING.
@evamurray2564
@evamurray2564 4 дня назад
​@Bizibee483 walking away from the 1937 peel commission partition and the UN 1947 partition resolution was a poor decision but the grand mufti of Jerusalem who worked with the nazis and his followers were adamant there would be Israeli state. Imagine if they had accepted one of these deals.
@IAmNumber4000
@IAmNumber4000 День назад
Only took the Times a FREAKIN YEAR to stop manufacturing consent for a genocide. Not forgivable. Props to this reporter however. You deserve better
@gandydancer9710
@gandydancer9710 День назад
THere is no genocide because Israel has prevented it again.
@LongDefiant
@LongDefiant День назад
​@@gandydancer9710I don't think Israel is holding back its worst impulses. It's an obvious genocide by the Jews.
@mannygutierrez7654
@mannygutierrez7654 9 часов назад
Absolutely unforgivable, they could find themselves liable in the world court for aiding the gencders
@gandydancer9710
@gandydancer9710 9 часов назад
@@mannygutierrez7654 You have no idea what you are talking about.
@mannygutierrez7654
@mannygutierrez7654 3 часа назад
@@gandydancer9710 actually I do, media organizations that share propaganda that encourages a genocide can be held liable for that Facts don't care about your feelings
@Sacrifusion
@Sacrifusion 5 дней назад
This sure is a radical change in tone. Been sitting on this one for a year, maybe?
@503mcbee
@503mcbee День назад
A year? Decades on decades.
@Sacrifusion
@Sacrifusion День назад
@@503mcbee of course. I was alluding to NYTTD s minimization of Israel's current and historical role since October 7th
@christianblattler6518
@christianblattler6518 20 часов назад
Only one year, of course 😂
@chrisbarrick
@chrisbarrick 5 дней назад
This doesn’t seem like it would’ve been possible without tacit acceptance from the United States. It’s truly a shame how few Americans know about this, given how large of an impact, their political decisions make on the lives of people living overseas.
@cronizle
@cronizle 4 дня назад
True, Trump was paid 100 million to annex the west bank if elected, which would be an obvious disaster for peace, and dems don't even bring it up to score political points.
@gandydancer9710
@gandydancer9710 День назад
Why is it up to the US to either "accept" or reject whatever it is you're whining about?
@cronizle
@cronizle День назад
@gandydancer9710 Because we're the global superpower with the most nukes and the most money, and it's not even close.
@mauricehalfhide3982
@mauricehalfhide3982 15 часов назад
lands for settlement are openly promoted in the US
@maximeclermont6339
@maximeclermont6339 5 часов назад
@@gandydancer9710 Because Israel is one of the three regional power in the middle east and the Israel is important to US projection of power in the middle east, the US sided with Israel. Israel has also used the domestic political area of the US to push its interests in Congress. It's the same dynamic than with South Africa during the cold war. The USA was align with with South Africa because it sided with capitalism (and the US) against communism (and Russia), therefore, the US was more than willing to look the other way with South Africa's apartheid and shield it from international repercussions. The same thing is going on in Israel at the moment. Only when the USA stopped shielding South Africa that apartheid could be ended. It is to the US to either "accept" or "reject" because we live in a unipolar world where the superpower is the USA.
@marilynshepherd6480
@marilynshepherd6480 4 дня назад
Why pretend this is new
@handyalley2350
@handyalley2350 15 часов назад
Because fortnite
@bikerd12
@bikerd12 День назад
And why are my taxes going towards the support of Israel?
@gandydancer9710
@gandydancer9710 День назад
You're free to vote for or against it. My taxes go for a lot of things I don't want, what makes you different?
@bikerd12
@bikerd12 День назад
@@gandydancer9710 -^^^|/// Mark Perlmutter, a Jewish-American humanitarian surgeon who spent two weeks in the Palestinian enclave in April and May, has told of Palestinian children being shot by Israeli snipers in Gaza. Perlmutter told a US broadcaster in an interview published on Monday that “no toddler gets shot twice by mistake by ‘the world’s best sniper’”. I don’t want my taxes to go towards that kind of barbarism.
@gandydancer9710
@gandydancer9710 День назад
@@bikerd12 There is nothing you say about Perlmutter that would inspire me to believe anything he says. He sounds like a Useful Idiot who simply wants the terrorists to win. The fantasy that Israeli snipers are told to shoot toddlers is lunacy. There are way too many unshot Gazan toddlers for that to be plausible. And no significant amount of US money is used to equip Israeli snipers anyway. Israel can, and as far as I know, does pay for its own sniper rifles, ammo, and training. Let's be clear that what you're really objecting to is US aid to help pay for Israeli anti-missile defenses.
@bikerd12
@bikerd12 День назад
@@gandydancer9710 perlmutter is probably a ham as secret agent, how about the first prime minister of Israel. "If I were an Arab leader, I would never sign an agreement with Israel. It is normal; we have taken their country. It is true God promised it to us, but how could that interest them? Our God is not theirs. There has been Anti - Semitism, the Nazis, Hitler, Auschwitz, but was that their fault ? They see but one thing: we have come and we have stolen their country. Why would they accept that?" David Ben-Gurion - Quoted by Nahum Goldmann in Le Paraddoxe Juif (The Jewish Paradox), pp121.
@bikerd12
@bikerd12 День назад
Of course you don’t believe perlmutter.
@leslie-annmills-gomez8763
@leslie-annmills-gomez8763 День назад
How has Hamas exploited the situation? This is the rhetoric that makes my blood boil. These are Palestinians who have known nothing but barbaric acts from Israelis
@redcloud8444
@redcloud8444 3 дня назад
This is for posterity. "The Path to the Lunatic State that is now the current Israel". I felt that extreme sadness when they took out the one guy that could have ultimately saved Israel Yitzhak Rabin, he's the only one who understands what it takes for Israel project to continue. Look at Israel now they can't stop from spiraling downwards, guided by a self-centered Netanyahu posing as Mr. Security when he has created all the insecurities and eventual downfall of the Israel project, it's gonna be over soon. They lost all the respect of the world, they even lost their super power which is being the ultimate victim, that belongs to Palestinians now, today they are the Oppressors, the Nazi of this generation. I pity those people who don't see where this is heading. It's gonna be over soon.
@Grimpus1972
@Grimpus1972 День назад
‘Soon’ can mean decades or even centuries in this context.
@paddyholly2184
@paddyholly2184 День назад
Yes, the Z's have shown The World EXACTLY Who They Are. And the J's who Aren't COMPLICIT will Pay The Price.
@bezerbezer5567
@bezerbezer5567 13 часов назад
Yitzhak is no different from every Israeli "leadership". Look into the vile things he did and said. Israelis were never interested in a peace deal. There maybe 1 or 2 times when peace could have been achieved but there were too many zionist trying to make it fail. It's very frustrating and sad.
@robertmusil5831
@robertmusil5831 5 дней назад
Hi Ronen Bergman. In your NYT piece from May 21, 2021 titled "A Look Inside Israel’s ‘Fortress of Zion’ Military Command Beneath Tel Aviv" you reported: "This room is the nerve center of a bunker dubbed the “Fortress of Zion,” a new Israeli Army command post deep underground beneath its headquarters in the heart of Tel Aviv." In your opinion, does this qualify as the kind of command and control center that violates the laws of war by operating within a high-density civilian area? Bearing in mind that the bunker referred to is just next door to Ichilov - the largest maternity hospital in Tel Aviv? And if your answer is "no" could you kindly explain why not? Thanks.
@AbuSous2000PR
@AbuSous2000PR 4 дня назад
Ministry of Truth...plz censor Robert's comment
@gandydancer9710
@gandydancer9710 День назад
What "Law of War" are you referring to? No arm-waving please.
@soulfireonfire6423
@soulfireonfire6423 День назад
@@AbuSous2000PR Ministry of Truth !!! Haha!!
@soulfireonfire6423
@soulfireonfire6423 День назад
@@gandydancer9710 If you don’t know what law of war means, you should do research!
@gandydancer9710
@gandydancer9710 День назад
@@soulfireonfire6423 Your problem is that I do and either you don't or you're comfortable lying. Hence the empty arm-waving is all you've got. Quote the "law" you're claiming is being violated. You can't of course.
@sheikhjavedahmad2244
@sheikhjavedahmad2244 День назад
Congratulate you for providing so simple yet so authentic facts leading to nightmare scenario facing Israel today. If democracy still works within Israel, they can step back from suicidal path of self destruction
@snoopy_peanuts_77
@snoopy_peanuts_77 2 дня назад
The inevitability of an colonial apartheid state left without red lines...how else would you think this would end? Also that 67 characterization of being "thrown into war" is doing alot of heavy lifting
@iamyoda66
@iamyoda66 5 дней назад
This is a real story. If you love Israel it is important
@gandydancer9710
@gandydancer9710 День назад
It's garbage.
@WillC-s5q
@WillC-s5q 2 дня назад
Israel attacked Egypt in 1967, iaraeli talking points are utter nonsense
@AbuSous2000PR
@AbuSous2000PR 2 часа назад
@@WillC-s5q 2/3 of the content is based on lies...the other 1/3 is a gaslight
@butchfriday
@butchfriday 5 дней назад
Knowing what the far right is will to do to achieve its goals, does Ronan Bergman fear for his life? That was a great piece! I would like to hear Ezra Klein’s comments on it.
@calj2090
@calj2090 5 дней назад
We are propping up an Apartheid State.... Why?
@jacobjorgenson9285
@jacobjorgenson9285 4 дня назад
Because AIPAC is not registered as a foreign agent yet
@Jszar
@Jszar 4 дня назад
Ask your elected legislators. They can do more about it than RU-vid commenters.
@adz951
@adz951 4 дня назад
💰💰💰
@mkadi70
@mkadi70 3 дня назад
Follow the trace of money and you get the answer
@birdpainter452
@birdpainter452 2 дня назад
Money, greed, corruption, blackmail.
@citizenoftheearth6
@citizenoftheearth6 9 часов назад
Excellent reporting. The US government could stop this any moment, but shockingly they won't. I almost cried while listening, you can hear pain for humanity in Mr. Bergman's voice.
@HebaruSan
@HebaruSan 4 дня назад
"far right" is not really that descriptive. How about "pro-genocide"?
@robertmusil5831
@robertmusil5831 4 дня назад
To read all comments, sort by "newest first".
@defcon12
@defcon12 5 дней назад
The other commenters pretending like this is the first time the NYT talked about the West Bank
@Sacrifusion
@Sacrifusion 5 дней назад
@@defcon12 how often have they used "Israeli terrorists" though?
@defcon12
@defcon12 5 дней назад
@@Sacrifusion whenever it is relevant to the context of their article. Are you just upset that you like something the NYT published?
@Sacrifusion
@Sacrifusion 5 дней назад
@@defcon12 I'm dyslexic, I listen to podcasts, and they don't talk like this on The Daily. And what?
@mua2
@mua2 3 дня назад
@@defcon12this is disingenuous, the NYT has never before dedicated an in depth look at the atrocities committed against Palestinians in the West Bank the way they regularly do for Israeli victims. Even this story is framed as “a fight for Israel’s soul”….theyre treating Palestinian victims as merely a symptom of Israel gone astray. One gets the sense that the real tragedy is that Israel will no longer be a liberal democratic state, the Palestinian victims are merely secondary.
@Sacrifusion
@Sacrifusion День назад
@@mua2 the past year of turning a blind eye has been dangerous
@leslie-annmills-gomez8763
@leslie-annmills-gomez8763 День назад
"Jewish democratic state" contradicts itself. Why a Jewish state? That alone is problematic
@gandydancer9710
@gandydancer9710 День назад
No, it's not.
@monicabeaston4996
@monicabeaston4996 4 дня назад
Great information and historical context.
@shelleychadwick4336
@shelleychadwick4336 3 часа назад
The end of the Israel Project. A project that should never have been started.
@Makerx2011
@Makerx2011 3 дня назад
Thankyou
@Maryhadalam
@Maryhadalam 4 дня назад
BBC not talking about extremists in West Bank!
@trytwicelikemice3190
@trytwicelikemice3190 3 дня назад
Yes they are. I remember reports on in from pre 2010, the BBC is in fact how I first learned about illegal settlers and the violence. Presumably also earlier, that was just when I was a teenager so my earliest memories of watching the news. I have seen them report consistently on it since, especially since October 7th. You will not see this type of content because the BBC does not produce that, but you will absolutely see reports of settler violence on the TV news and website. Get this chip off your shoulder about "establishment media not telling the truth" or whatever, and focus on the real victims of these atrocities.
@DoDemBeats
@DoDemBeats 10 часов назад
I did actually see one BBC report where they exposed the violence of one promonent Illegal settler in the west bank. He ran way from their cameras because he knows he is a scum bag terrorist.
@bryanmurray9846
@bryanmurray9846 4 дня назад
Douglas Murray, Sam Harris, and Jordan Peterson should listen to this. Albeit, I dont think it would do any good.
@blabla12654
@blabla12654 4 дня назад
I think it's the other way around. Bergman needs to listen to them.
@adz951
@adz951 4 дня назад
We can dream. But they probably wouldn't listen.
@bryanmurray9846
@bryanmurray9846 4 дня назад
Based on your response, I am curious about what you think about the Palestinian Israeli tragedy. For example, what are your thoughts on the 9 IDF soldiers seen on video allegingly sodomizing that Palestinian and the members of society including the Knesset who rioted to protect the perps and the leaders who argue that SA of Palestinians should be codified? ​@blabla12654
@andybryant3052
@andybryant3052 3 дня назад
They think humans have varying value then using the guise of religion pick sides. Had Rome not picked sides we'd probably be happily worshipping hundreds of gods today and possibly none if that was our choice. To think any Abrahamic religion is rooted in peace is pipe smoke. These bastards are all jockeying for the final conflict. YHWH wasn't even that much of a god and we all suffer from the acts of his bastardized disciples.
@mkadi70
@mkadi70 3 дня назад
They are part of the Alt right...
@JohnSWren
@JohnSWren 7 часов назад
1st uprising when nothing done, Palestinians furious.
@fahad1720
@fahad1720 2 дня назад
As others have mentioned, about time this story was told and a welcome change of tone ! I do love the Daily and I believe they weren't very pro Israel before this episode either
@Jaywrites23
@Jaywrites23 2 дня назад
Very important podcast. One note at 9:28 regarding the Six Day War. Israel *preemptively* struck Egypts fleet of jets and Syria’s immediately after. The Arab countries DID NOT attack first.
@moma8956
@moma8956 2 дня назад
Zionists be Zionizing the truth
@Cocodrilou
@Cocodrilou 2 дня назад
🏴‍☠️ ISRAHELL 🏴‍☠️
@paddyholly2184
@paddyholly2184 23 часа назад
1/2 way through is SHOCKING!!! BEN GVEER!
@jasonraider3737
@jasonraider3737 3 дня назад
Mr. Bergman is spot on in his analysis on the dangers that the theocratic hard right and unconstrained settlements poses to the rule of law and democracy in Israel. I looked favorably at the full withdrawal and dismantlement of settlements from Gaza in 2005, hoping that (if it proved to be advantageous to peace and security) it would be a bold step towards a comprehensive two-state solution. But, events have dashed my hopes: a theocratic, antisemitic, antidemocratic kleptocratic terrorist organization (Hamas) seized power in Gaza, and they made it clear in word and actions that they are committed to the destruction of Israel, and no concessions on Israel's part would change that. The first Israelis that they killed, kidnapped and raped were those who resided in the liberal border Kibbutzim that were anti-settlement and pro-human rights. Hence there is zero evidence that dismantling settlements in the west bank and establishing a full palestinian state there would bring peace and security. I hate the rabid right wing in Israel, but they were right...
@AS-kp1xu
@AS-kp1xu День назад
You cannot claim you are a democracy when you are built on stolen land, operating an occupation and running a brutal apartheid regime. They are not a democracy. They are a racist religious ethno state.
@lonecandle5786
@lonecandle5786 2 дня назад
He implies that if not for the settlements, there would be no intifadas. How sure can we be that that's the case?
@AS-kp1xu
@AS-kp1xu День назад
The settlements are illegal theft enterprises. The settlers are terrorists.
@mauricehalfhide3982
@mauricehalfhide3982 15 часов назад
You should critique this question of yours and your reason for thinking of it in the first place. But since settlers have treated Palestinians badly (according to the Jews, themselves) since they first started moving there in significant numbers in the 1890s, we will never know how this might have turned out differently. It is a pity that the few among the Zionists who were interested in fair treatment and co-existence lost to the more aggressive side.
@lonecandle5786
@lonecandle5786 9 часов назад
@@mauricehalfhide3982 It seems like, before the intifadas, there was a real chance for peace under a two-state solution. The intifadas made Israelis not able to see peace as realistic. Seems to me that the intifadas could have happened even without the West Bank settlements because there were enough Palestinians willing to use terror tactics just for Israel existing, and if enough people are willing to use terror tactics unless Israel ceases to be, then the Israelis really do have no choice but toughness or the destruction of their country.
@mauricehalfhide3982
@mauricehalfhide3982 8 часов назад
@@lonecandle5786 Well I realize that you are only interested in giving credit to the Israeli narrative about Palestinians. Perhaps it comes from your being underinformed?--I wouldn't know.
@lonecandle5786
@lonecandle5786 4 часа назад
@@mauricehalfhide3982 Your realization is a false one. I don't care about just one side's narrative. I care about the truth. There was a clear rightward reaction of the Israeli public to the intifadas. It is simply true that the Israelis cannot keep their Jewish state and live in peace if a significant number of Palestinians will use terror tactics unless Israel is destroyed. It's not clear at all that without the West Bank settlements we wouldn't get something like the Intifadas because Palestinians have been willing to use violence against the Jews since they started arriving.
@takfaazul5408
@takfaazul5408 3 часа назад
Israeli crimes started since or even before 1948.
@SamBahour
@SamBahour 5 дней назад
R-E-S-P-E-C-T Thank you for your clarity.
@JohnSWren
@JohnSWren 7 часов назад
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@federicofarneti4927
@federicofarneti4927 2 дня назад
I wanted to thank you for this beautiful update, for the correctness and objectivity of the information, really all very interesting and well presented. very good everyone, I would like to have further news and insights on the Israeli Palestinian situation and also on the Lebanese front and the neighboring or indirectly involved countries. thank you!
@soulfireonfire6423
@soulfireonfire6423 День назад
Wow!! Tons of info out there. Must not want to know that bad!
@Faithfulsheperd
@Faithfulsheperd 3 дня назад
eye opening and sad that the victim becomes the oppressor
@KennethSmith-kq9lo
@KennethSmith-kq9lo День назад
Thank you
@michelnugawela7625
@michelnugawela7625 2 дня назад
A recent Economist article touches on the heavy representation of settlers from the West Bank in IDF combat units. A graduate of Bnei David was a military secy to Netanyahu and the current general of Central Command grew up in a settlement and studied at Bnei David. There’s a good quote from the article: “They’re well educated, ideologically driven and mentally strong. They’re engineering a quiet revolution.”
@soulfireonfire6423
@soulfireonfire6423 День назад
Oh boy!!!! Not going to work! Do people realize that other people have ears and eyes and a functioning brain, A brain, that hasn’t been compromised by any type of indoctrination. It’s very important to keep that in mind when resources of all kinds especially live, approved coverage, via filming, with audio are at one’s fingertips. In other words, with the tools that the majority of human beings are blessed with , by the CREATOR, including gut instinct, common sense and most of all, the inherent gift of emotions and many others, well.. umm.. we SEE IT!! Let’s see if you have the ability in regards to certain comments on this videos comment section , that are being worded to give the reader a feeling of excusing inhumane behavior, what meaning or message is in my comment!
@RobertoMartinez-vu3cl
@RobertoMartinez-vu3cl День назад
Benzion MILEIKOWSKY (fake name Benjamin Nentayahu 😂) has a home in POLAND where he was born😂😂 and he calls himself sematic😂😂😂
@handyalley2350
@handyalley2350 15 часов назад
Do not immanentize the eschaton
@vivavasquez
@vivavasquez 16 часов назад
Facebook has restricted me yet again, i wanted to share this to groups but they will not let me.
@karimb972
@karimb972 9 часов назад
Free Palestine 🇵🇸🇵🇸🇵🇸🇵🇸
@lipedu3k
@lipedu3k 20 часов назад
the lack of perspective is astonishing… ofc the state should go against terror within, with a strong hand! but wow? not a single word on why the arabs in the west B are not (and were never) on board on having a state there and recognizing Israel borders… it is just crazy! everyone just believes that there’s a consensus among palestinians about the 2 state solution that just never been a reality also, what about on why jordan signed a peace treaty and refused to take west bank?
@adriennebraxton-oq9iu
@adriennebraxton-oq9iu 3 часа назад
too late nyt!
@BetsyWillie-t8f
@BetsyWillie-t8f 2 дня назад
Hall Matthew Lewis Jeffrey Lewis Deborah
@NandiniSharma-o7r
@NandiniSharma-o7r 3 дня назад
Williams Kenneth Williams Ronald Miller Maria
@ezekielsaltar4728
@ezekielsaltar4728 4 дня назад
West Bank is now Judea and Samaria with many Jews that are not going anywhere, any solution that includes another state would include them as part of the citizen population.
@AS-kp1xu
@AS-kp1xu День назад
They are the terrorists who make co existence impossible. Stop with your whinging.
@blabla12654
@blabla12654 4 дня назад
To summairze, Ronen Bergman boils down the problem on the Israeli side to the everlasting left vs right problem and blames the right-wing governments and extremism for many of the problems, and he opts to lie to advance his political agenda. More specifically, the obvious falsehoods underpinning the narrative: (1) Legally, neither the West Bank, nor Gaza, isn't occupied territory according to international law, even though most media really like using these disclaimers everywhere - so far, only political UN declarations that have no legal effect and non-binding ICJ decisions said it was, but Israeli sovereignty over these lands is based on (a) Israel being the only country emerging from the Mandate for Palestine (Uti posidetis juris), and confirmed by (b) peace treaties with Jordan and Egypt ceding these areas to Israel, (2) Forced evictions of Israelis from settlements in Gaza by the Israeli government took place before the withdrawal from Gaza in the early 2000s, and could happen again in case a proper peace is on the table. Land swaps were discussed during the peace neogitations with Palestinians in the past - and this wasn't an obstacle during the negotiations once; the key issue each time was the Palestinian "right of return". Bergman's narrative is simply false and is based on cherrypicking facts, the real situation is significantly more nuanced. But I guess it's easier to sell a pre-digested left-wing narrative to the NYT audience instead of covering all available arguments
@adz951
@adz951 4 дня назад
What? Both the ICJ and the Israeli Supreme Court have declared the West Bank to be under military occupation. In fact, it's currently the longest running military occupation in the world. There's also a very strong case to be made for Gaxa being under occupation, as Israel effectively controls all of its borders (yes, including the Egyptian land crossing). Plus, Palestinians in Gaza and the West Bank carry ID cards issued by Israel, colour coded to show which part of the occupied territories they're from, which restricts their movements.
@blabla12654
@blabla12654 4 дня назад
@@adz951ICJ had no binding ruling on this, and the Israeli Supreme Court's decision is inconsistent because from Israel's point of view, the only country whose sovereignty legally applies in the West Bank is Israel, and you can only occupy another country's lands. Btw this inconsistency created by the Supreme Court made it possible for the Israeli Government to keep calling the West Bank "disputed territories"
@bryanmurray9846
@bryanmurray9846 4 дня назад
This is off-topic, but since you mentioned lieing, I was curious what you think about the following claims about Oct 7th: 40 babies beheaded Mass rape Baby put in oven Baby cut out of womans womb Woman's breast cut off and played with as if a football. Were these lies? If so, why were they told? On the other hand are the following lies, that Palestinians are routinely sexually assaulted in Israeli detention camps and prisons, that the Hannibal directive was employed on Oct 7th, that Israel uses Palestinians as "human shields"? I concede that I cherry picked the preceding , but don't you think the answers to those questions are informative, regardless.
@samwhite254
@samwhite254 4 дня назад
@@blabla12654 So you are saying the West Bank is not occupied, because it has been fully captured and it is now simply part of Israel? That's a step beyond occupation, and would imply that all the Palestinians there are now full Israeli citizens (unless there is some sort of apartheid that excludes them).
@kyber1fun164
@kyber1fun164 4 дня назад
1. If the WestBank is fully Israeli sovereign territory, as you claim, then shouldn't the full protection of sovereign domestic Israeli law extend to the Palestinians living in the West Bank? How do you explain why Israeli settlers living in the West Bank have greater legal rights and protections (including the right to have guns, which Palestinians in the territory do not have) than Palestinians? Even more to the point, why has the Israeli Supreme Court repeatedly described it as a military occupation? 2. If you don't think that forced evictions of settlers would be a major stumbling block to peace, how do you explain the fact that Smotrich has explicitly argued the contrary, and explicitly said that he supports the expansion of settlements on the basis that they can never be included in peace negotiations.
@DoddBrady-b8o
@DoddBrady-b8o 4 дня назад
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@E_PHI_r
@E_PHI_r 5 дней назад
איזה שמאלני המפסיד הזה
@hammerhead2362
@hammerhead2362 5 дней назад
You right wing lunatics are destroying your state.
@mardasman428
@mardasman428 5 дней назад
You are proving his point
@PostImperfect
@PostImperfect 4 дня назад
Nothing like resorting to an ad hominem attack when you cannot make a valid point.
@AbuSous2000PR
@AbuSous2000PR 4 дня назад
See u in Dimona soon... checkmate😊
@mkadi70
@mkadi70 3 дня назад
What a genocide lover you are E_PH
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