Israel's long war on Gaza w/Norman Finkelstein | The Chris Hedges Report 

Check out Katie Halpern’s almost 3 hour recent conversation with.Norman.

Katie Helper has amazing interviews with the professor. She is awesome. I enjoy Her show with Aaron Mate , Useful idiots as well as her own show

Agree

At this point being appreciated by the people, the oppressed and the poor should be the crown that shows real kings. The other can keep their titles to themselves, some of us are nto ready to sell their souls.

it's a cancelled culture now no more moral right and wrong if you don't fit the narratives you're instantly attacked and your life can be ruined immediately that's lots of people don't speak out who have the same opinions like Norman. We need more brave people speaking out for justice regardless what skin colors you are. COMPASSION, FAIRNESS, JUSTICE ARE A MORAL COMPASS FOR ONE'S CONSCIOUSNESS!

​@@aninfinitelyvixxedvip6Beautifully said

That was heartbreakingly lovely comment and so true!❤

I can't beIieve how ignorant and truIy bIind so many are. The rest who side against Palestine, yes, are heartless and have no souIs. I cannot imagine a heII worse than being imprisoned in Gaza. 😢

Unfortunately for the good people of Israel, it has been Netanyahu's Modus Operandi to hold on to power by tactically Gaslighting the good people of Israel and inciting the enmity towards Israel and the fear of good people throughout the world.

.... ditto !

Its a tragedy that speaking of fact requires courage

He really is.

Puts Bernie Sanders to shame!

He is the conscience of the Holocaust

First of all before the attacks Israel I had no idea that it’s actually the MOST densely populated area on earth. However, as I look at the pictures of headless infants and in one instance twins who were burned alive appeared to have died holding each other 😭 I wasn’t able to look at anything else after those twins. Now then, it seems like it was announced that Israel had the right to defend himself. I know of no other country who needed to be told that! Gaza is a mess of humanity. No question. Why isn’t there something under way relocating the citizens of Gaza? It’s going to happen after the war is over anyway! Hamas has been trying to eradicate Israel for many years now. They are sworn to eradicate Israel from the face of the earth down to the last of themselves and their suicide attacks against Israel. All war has come from a last resort. But quite like WWII? Once we were attacked, what choice did we have? I’m not trying to start an argument here but I believe both sides need to be heard to make an informed decision about what is right and wrong here.

The essence of bigoted hatred is the unwillingness to imagine or believe the despised nation experiences the same emotions, loves and needs as the bigot.

And many hide behind religious beliefs at that.

"Because most people can't recognize one as it's happening" You are wrong. I saw it happening for many years, I can see it happening now. The ignorant ones are indoctrinated with propaganda by our evil news organizations on TV.

It's sickening regardless if you are religious or not. It's sad that religion is used 99,9 % to conduct a genicide, which has happened over and over again. And in over 90 % of the cases it's always the non-white people who have to suffer .:(

It's sad that he won't be fully appreciated until after he leaves earth.

​@@Rick-bi9fw Humans. So typical what you say.

Explain better, Palestinians have no right to express their rage about the treatment Israel imposed on them? Do Jews have no right to feel and express rage for Holocaust ?

Both him and Cornell West lost their tenure. The Zionists are powerful and extremely wicked. Their tentacles control large portions of the mainstream media and social media.

​@@inacioserralheiro2604 Explain better. Expressing rage not against their former German oppressors, but by occupying the country of Palestine and ethnically cleansing the weakest people in the Middle East? That doesn't even make sense!

@RichieDoop,…absolutely & this man deserves a medal for his courage

If only he could stop yelling with that high-pitched voice. I can only take about 5 minutes of it.

@@gmw3083 your ,we can only take so much from you..

​@@gmw3083Just turn your volume down. He has been to so much for so long, and many people that has been traumatized tend to express themselves.

@@romelleabdulaleem283 I'll just do 5-10 minutes and move on. There's so much to take in. I prefer to avoid melting my brain. There are others who've been through a lot as well. Guys like Aaron Mate and Max Blumenthal haven't, but from what you're saying, their tone will become more shrill if they hang out in more conflict zones. Dan Cohen seems to get himself in the trenches. He's ok. I think the grayz boys partake of the gange weed a bit. Finklestein should consider it...

I hate to say it but being human is not enough-apparently. :( :( :(

Sadly, there aren't enough humans willing to speak up against the atrocities committed against the Palestinian people.

I am sure you are referring to the pain of the 224 hostages kidnapped from their homes and families. Or perhaps the suffering of the woman who were raped. Or maybe, just maybe, the suffering of the babies who were beheaded. Because after all, as you said, you just have to be human to feel the suffering of other people.

What a perspective " I 31:56 can understand being born into a concentration camp and being driven mad"

@@jaykay7180 there is no evidence of women being raped that day, none. It is an IDF claim, but lacks evidence. There were no 40 babies beheaded, that was disproved many days ago. You forget to mention the palestini women in israeli jails that are held without charge, and are being raped and tortured as a matter of fact. You demand compassien for non existing beheaded babies, yet do not mention the schildren that DID die during that incident.,, and you completely ignore the far over 2000 dead children in Gaza.. Do you think bomb shrapnel and falling buildings do not cause suffering? You never mention what Israeli children learn in school.. To hate arabs and pity secular jews. To kill arabs, and take them as slaves. Do you really mean that living a free life in a lovely city, and being born to live inside a prison makes people equal? And.. you do not mention that there was little to no firing of weapons oct 7th until IDF showed up and killed israeli and Hamas without a care of their own people. And still.. yes we do feel for those israeli who died and suffered that day.. but not more, or before those palestinians who had much worse done to them.

It's so disheartening that the oppressors have so much support, even though many of them will openly claim support for other humanitarian and socially progressive causes.

Agreed though I'm sure he would say his sacrifices pale next to those who have died for Palestinian freedom, even as he devoted 40 years to researching and publishing the truth

You should read one of his books! Illuminating no doubt

Massive support from media are you serious? Mainstream media parrot everything Hamas says and cry about every "poor civilian" that gets blown up because Hamas decided to dig tunnels under their house.

When you own one and pay for the other how can you loose?

Lol saying and doing are not synonymous

@johnnysprocketz Tell me about it. Or, no, don't tell, do it.

Agree....brilliant passionate clear insightful ...

Their? His.

I totally agree with your observation. Chris, who is also brilliant, subordinated his own ego to allow his guest the scope to deliver his cogent observations.

Agree wholeheartedly on all points.

There's also an interview of Dan Cohan on The Grayzone. Fantastic. He & Mac Blumenthal spent months in Israel filming a documentary, Killing Gaza.

I'm a simple woman; once I see Prof. Finkelstein's name, I click. Same with Chris Hedges. These two have never disappointed me.

I completely agree

Watch Normans interview with Katie Halper. Lasted almost 3 hours. Wonderful.

miko peled also

There's others to be fair

@@shadmonk I've never heard of him. I'll check him out. Thanks!

30:35--37:26...This is what it's all about folks!

also Schlomo Sands and Ilan Pape (The ethnic cleansing of Palestine)

The Jews have certainly come full circle. Holocaust 1.0 was inflicted by others on the Jews. Holocaust 2.0 is now being inflicted by Jews on the 'others'. This will definitely not end well for Israeli people if they continue to ethnically cleanse another group of people. Who will be next after the Palestinians???

I came here to say the very same thing about John Brown. He did not execute the women or the children. He executed men who were friends and employees of Dutch Henry, a pro slavery zealot who gave meals, lodging and funds to Border Ruffians and other pro slavery militias who had spent the previous years brutalizing and killing abolitionists. The "massacre" was in reaction to the sacking of Lawrence KS, the provisional abolitionist capital of KS, not recognized by DC (the pro slavery capital was however.....interesting) and the near fatal beating of abolitionist Senator Charles Sumner, by southern pro slavery dandy/tough guy, Preston Brooks, cuz his feelings were hurt. It can be argued that Potawatamie was a legitimate military action. One must consider the source when we believe that John Brown killed innocents. I do not believe that he did.

I no longer have words, humanity is indeed barbarians.

@@davidgillette7109 Let us hope that majority of people are of good will - but only small percentage continue believing in the 'chosen by god' myth. Greetings!!!

⁠@@davidgillette7109 I feel like that too but the truth is most of us are good, it’s mostly the people we give power to that destroy us as our systems are so corrupt selling to the highest bidder and war makes money for the ones with their hand in the pot. It will never change, so we have to find our bubbles of humanity and do what we can to not lose sight of the decency. Finkelstein has dedicated his life to this, as has Hedges. We have great decent teachers and there are many more. That’s the humanity to seek out and believe again.

Don't forget the on denominator to all this: US empire US = empire by denial/deception - Immerwahr ...using proxies (Israel,Apatheid South Africa,Germany,Japan,Saudi, France,Ukraine,etc), pawns & patsies

Hear, hear. Yes! Truth.

Exactly, it's indeed what stands out about him. So rare and impressive.

You SHOULD NOT FEEL DEFEATED 💪. BECAUSE YOU ARE NOT!!! ALL GOOD PEOPLE ARE WITH YOU. WHEN YOU USE NON VIOLENCE TO BACK YOU UP, IT IS NOT HARD TO SEE THE EVIL OF OTHERS ❤🎉🎉😮. PEACE AND LOVE, PEOPLE

Perhaps you are unaware that you left out the fact that they are Caucasians and our Torah starts with Genesis ie human origins IE Black people.

All human lives are important, I don't know what your disagreement is based on.

@@davidbenyahuda5190 you're position is unclear to me

Respectfully, I must ask, have you had your head under a rock. Israel is under constant scrutiny in the U.S. for decades. If Israel sneezes the wrong way, the media is on it. As for schools, they are infected with a one-sided agenda. I grant you, this was not the case decades ago, but today you are absolutely wrong. Most churches have gone woke. The fundamentalists are pro-Israel but other than that, Christians are quite willing to criticize Israel...and as for the secular Jews which are in effect the majority of Jews in America, they examine the Palestinian issue in a way that no other group imo would. It's rare when a group is at war, under attack, and/or has land disputes with others, that they even reflect on what might be the underlying issues. The war in Ukraine could have been prevented and resulted from years of terrible U.S. leadership. Notice how in the first months of the war, almost no one dissented or took the time to look at both sides. This is typical. Secular Jews constantly examine their issues--you are in error about this. It's not a matter that Israel can never be wrong. As is the case with all democracies that have a myriad of issues, people tend to look at the big picture at the expense of nuance. Far more nuance when it comes to Israel and what you say, the opposite is true. Israel is the only western power that gets constant examination. My problem with this is that other countries should be examined with the same frequency.

@@davidbenyahuda5190 i am not unaware that the human species originated in Africa. What's the next racist style question? Yes King Solomon was dark but comely. If your a christian... What exactly is YOUR beef.

very sad...ignorance is bliss

At best, a few claims are based on grains of truth. Context matters.

@@user-cg1qq2er8x yet you refute none of them here. let me guess, you're not going to do the work for us...

A huge shoulder of humanity for us to stand on!

RIGHT!?! I get bored if a TikTok is longer than 2-3 minutes! This video was just under an hour (which it totally didn't feel like) and I didn't want it to end. I just discovered Mr.Finkelstein tonight, the first thing I saw was a clip of him pretty much telling a college student to quit the blubbering. 🤣 That clip was only 3 minutes and made me want to find out more about him, so this is the second video I've watched. Off to go find some more!

​@@briannec2016Lol, same!

You'll enjoy his interview with Katie Halper then; it's over two hours long. He gives the actual words that Garrison wrote about the Nat Turner slave rebellion; incredibly powerful! Edit: She has several videos with him, but the other ones I looked at are excerpts from the long one.

@@jumperonthelineI will certainly look for it. Thanks a lot for sharing.

At the GOP debate they approach this issue from trying to say anything the fastest and get a pat on the head, then not know who is getting criticized because they all said the same thing but painstakingly try to make them distinct, vs someone who is pre-emptively smeared because what he says is too distinct.

Yes, That was an incredible discussion.

No he is not.

Amazingly deep life work. An enormous gift he is for all humanity.

Brave and honest. His life’s work will inspire hundreds and thousands of people fight for justice and humanity. Chris is on the right side of history. God bless them

gaza, the biggest open air gulag in the world

indeed

@@Microphunktv-jb3kj. It’s the largest concentration camp. 2 million.

Did the conflict start with Israel claiming land that belongs to the Palestinians?

Superb comment. I was trying to put into words what moved me so much by this discussion. You nailed it, "Your clarity and courage to bring this issue to light at a time when very few are willing to put this war and genocide in historical and social contest is extraordinary". Thank you.

Agree, but they are fighting for freedom and for their lives. Condemn them or calling them terrorists is an insult to justice. I will call the invaders who put them in concentration camps, the terrorists.

Nothing could make me murder innocent people and hold children as hostages. It's not at all okay. Ever.

​@@LeaMumof3Go spend a few decades in Gaza, you'll be surprised what you're capable of.

​@@LeaMumof3I can respect the ideology of pacifism and still understand what it means to act out of hopeless desperation.

​@@LeaMumof3I would want to say the same thing too. But the truth is, humans' mental health is not that strong to endure too much things. We can only say so when we're still not yet been tested so. Depressed people could do a lot of things. And people in Gaza could probably have a much more severe mental health issues than just a depression. I was never oppressed, so I can't understand them. The only thing I could do is just to accept that this kind of condition exist, and it's not impossible. I wouldn't say what they did is right or wrong, but I wouldn't claim that I wouldn't become like that too, if I was put inside their shoes. Because, I was never in their shoes. Because, I will never understand what they really feel and experience no matter how hard I tried. Because, it never happened to me.

Bravo. Thank you!

It’s saddens me that any condemning of Israel is regarded as antisemitism.

I hope you will go even further and go watch a couple of documentaries on Palestine and the Nakba. Glad you see thru it and can be obne of those to help stop the silence.

UK citizens are often clueless and project their own guilt. As for most of the rest of the EU nations, I don't think the people in these countries have ever even though about giving Jewish land lost in the Holocaust back to the Jews. So the people on the other side of the pond from the U.S should not be smug.

@@gertie9881 He's an exception as a professor of Political Science

Did Israel start the conflict by taking land from the Palestinians?

They are brilliant. I'm a real smarty pants but I am in awe when these intellectuals speak. Where I find myself unable to articulate my thinking, these two do it for me.

That’s funny.

He's a one-sided zealot that professes to be an independent thinker.

Maybe he just independently arrived at the right side of the issue through careful study. Or does an independent analyst always take the median view? Seems less independent to me doing that than just following the evidence you encounter through scrupulous research. If he made an error please speak up.

@@user-cg1qq2er8xThat’s like saying the prosecutor of Nazis at The Hague was one sided zeolite. Go to another forum that spouts opinions and not facts

No option but to rape and kidnap women and children? They are holding hostages? How could you possibly excuse that?

It sucks that it took this tragedy to force these conversations

I remember when governments and the media labelled Nelson Mandela and the ANC as terrorists. Pinochet was welcomed on state visits; now it's the Saudis they can't get enough of. Future generations will look back to this time in history in horror.

Lol identical scenario, what a clown

Actually he made a point of making no moral position but instead used loaded language to describe Israeli actions while romanticising the final goodbye's of the Arab insurgents.

@@shauneden4229 Nothing "loaded" about calling a genocide a genocide.

@@ringo8410 Or describing one side as fascist while knowing that Hamas are not running a democracy in Gaza.