I hope you enjoy the video - let me know what your favourite Isshin moment is in the series! Here's hoping he plays a role if Kubo decides to create any new chapters in the future, I'm still hoping to see his Bankai!
@@BigLove91 nothing to do with hollowfication, just makes him a substitute soul reaper, but then again having been one already he’s basically just what he was before
I agree with you in the video, the romance part in Everything but the rain, it was really nice, and also that in the last arc I wanted Kubo to meet Toushiro, Rangiku or Ganju/Kuukaku. It was cool to show him appearing with Ryuuken like buddies, but he should have done more for Isshin. And I mean here mostly show his bankai, but Kubo was probably forced to end too fast, so none of that for us
I think he deserves consideration for being one of the strongest and one of the best shonen dads. Ryuken is more of the traditional shonen dad, but even in his own way, he showed he cared about Uryu.
@@darknesswave100 Parents get in the way of adventure. Since Shounen protags are inevitably minors given the genre having no parents justifies the massive amount of danger the kids subject themselves. Most sane parents do not allow their kids to become mecha-pilots or demon hunters. So then you now need to either have the kids hide their activities or have the parents support them. The first is easily solved with abusive family. The other two create setting requirements, typically some sort of 'safe' entry point like a school (Boku no Hero) or the parents are themselves involved (In Naruto most kids of ninjas are pushed into become ninja in turn because they need to maintain clan secrets but also militaary force)
People underestimate how important a father a life really is. Isshins presence legitimates Ichigo's mature character throughout the series. In this regard Ichigo is special among most protagonists in general
Isshin is an actual good dad in a Shonen, while still being a OP badass. I really like his relationship with Ichigo, Masaki and Ryuuken. Nice video as always.
Just think of the age difference between him and Masaki lol... He was a captain level shinigami so atleast a few centuries old while Masaki was in high-school when he met her and pretty much was with her from that point on but hey as long as they loved each other.
Isshin Kurosaki aka Isshin Shiba, definitely made sure Ichigo was strong with his playful surprise attacks. I love Isshin being so strong but he kept it low key to avoid having his family in trouble
Once they revealed he was a Shiba, his constant roughhousing, wrestling, and sneak attacks on Ichigo suddenly made so much sense. It was immediately reminiscent of Ganju Shiba. Shibas seem to be crass, loud, a bit violent and somewhat aloof. Ichigo and Kien's resemblance went beyond appearance - but much of their personality and way they react in conversation were uncanny. And later, it became obvious that this very closely paralleled Isshin too, as he is much the same way.
I like the fact that Isshin's younger self looks like Ichigo and Ichigo after the time skip at the end of the series looks even more like him down to the haircut and sideburns
I think Kubo very clearly hinted that Isshin was a shinigami all the way back at the start of the soul society arc. When Ichigo gets his summons from urahara to go to soul society and save rukia Isshin stops Ichigo right before he goes and gives him that good luck charm and says it'll protect Ichigo. Isshin presumably to the audience has no idea where Ichigo is about to go but I think that's a pretty obvious hint that he's well aware of what his son is up to.
There is even cooler subtle foreshadowing of Isshin's true nature actually. In the earliest chapters Kubo created little sketches at the end with character descriptions and stuff, and for Isshin he wrote that Isshin was supposed to be a morg owner (obvious relation to death) not a doctor so he looks a lot cooler in the black outfit rather than white (and of course black is associated with shinigami) which makes sense if Kubo planned Isshin to be a major shinigami figure from the start.
@@lanariy6362 Kubo knew Isshin was going to be a Shinigami from the start, when he was initially fleshing out the story of Bleach. I don't know when in the process of creating the Bleach story that he knew Masaki was going to be a Quincy--but the blue Quincy cross on Ichigo's duvet strongly hints at it. When you think abour it, Bleach has the feel of Shakespeare's Romeo and Juliet.
@@rubies200 Masaki was also planned to be a Quincy because Ichigo, Karin, and Yuzu all had high enough reiatsu to be capable of watching ghosts due to their inner Quincy powers.
@@joaquincortescasas8114 Yeah, I want to know more about Karin and Yuzu. Yuzu, especially. She doesn't manifest any outward signs, but like you said--she's got Quincy powers. Like Haschwaldt.
My assumption about why Isshin doesn't tell Ichigo about trying to restore his powers in the Fullbringer arc was always that he didn't want to give Ichigo any sort of false hope in case they COULDN'T do it.
I always paint more as in pride. Both Ichigo and Ishin are pridefull. That is why he wait this last moment to intervene in th izen fight. And maybe why he didnttell ichigo. Ichigo was depress, and execution give him hope, a porpuse, so trying to get ichigo against execution would be dificult, but also may put them in alert.
His secretiveness and goofy front is understandable given who he once was, but him deserting to do what's right and then marrying the near victim of the hollow attack is heartwarming. More so since she was nominally a mortal 'enemy'. Really showed how if the powers to be stay out of it Quincies and Shinigami can get along. Good thing that's become the norm after the war after all the bloodshed.
one thing i thought about Urahara not telling Isshin about the visored is that its in character for Urahara to not disclose any information he doesnt think is essential for someone else to know, and its probably also possible that Shinji and the gang asked to be kept a secret to even allies until it was time to take the stage against Aizen
Yeah he probably didn't want to risk Isshin intervening. The training Ichigo needed was risky as hell and Isshin knew first hand how dangerous White was.
It's pretty much in character for all these ex-shinigami to never give more info than they deem necessary at the time. Ichigo thinking he was responsible for his mother's death for years is a great example. Isshin could have told him the day Masaki died about the existence of Hollows and why they would be drawn to their family. So whenever there's a time when someone says "They could have just TALKED to each other", my immediate response is, "Yeah, but when have they EVER done that and made it easy for anyone?"
Isshin being there to slap Ichigo around a bit is definitely what kept him together after Aizen completely destroyed his will, and him being the goofball he is is definitely what kept the Kurosaki household together. Props to the old man, the Shiba clan is full of brave and strong people.
The fans would damage control this by saying kubo was rushed , but kubo should not have brought isshin and ryuken ( uryu dad) at the last minute . They should have participated much sooner in the arc , and there were plenty of ways to present them with a bigger role, they are both allied to kisuke .
@@bqw2094 I mean it was rushed shonen jump did screw kubo up real good. Futhermore, kubo was also dealing with health issues at the time as well. Like come on dude. Like I understand you're disappointed but please use your head.
@@xblade149 yeah here's why I can't see that as a excuse , the bad writing isn't the only problem , until chapter 681 , bleach was going at a snail pace , being extremely dragged out . Kubo wasn't writing like he was sick, in fact he was taking his sweet time , if he had gone to the nitty gritty earlier he probably wouldn't have been in that situation where he had to cram all that stuff in 5 chapters, we got to much dragged out chapters of unnecessary stuff . The whole " he was rushed/ sick " is not a excuse . I understand shonen jump and editors interference were a problem , but kubo also made several bad decisions.
@@bqw2094 so what? Just because certain scenes dragged long doesnt mean kubo was at full health. What kind logic is that. Futhermore, you forget kubo had hard times dealing with the editors at shonen jump. And its not just kubo other authors were dealing with similar issues like togashi. Kubo even stated himself he wanted to expand certain character but he couldn't due to time constraints and deadlines. That's why he's involved with the anime adaption of the tybw arc to expand upon certain things.There's more to the situation than just oh its kubo fault. I hate that mindset hell that's why he quit twitter for awhile due to that kind of mindset. So please do more research into the situation than just its kubo fault. As someone who studied and worked in entertainment industry there's more to the situation than meets the eye
Do you remember when Ichigo met his cousins? Kukaku got really shocked but instantly recognized her familiar, I guess that the Shiba clan got kinda shattered when Kaien died and Isshin vanished...
My favorite moment with Isshin is not even in the Manga proper. It's one of those sketches Kubo does between chapters. During Uryu's contest with Ichigo in the first arc, after Chad awakens his powers and goes down, Kirin shows back up with Isshin but since Chad is already gone, Isshin thinks she just wants to play. In the sketch, if follows up on that moment by showing and stating that Kirin throughly defeated her dad and completely forgot about what was going on. At face value it's just another goofy moment, but once you know the truth about Isshin the scene completely changes. Isshin let Kirin beat him up to distract her from the deeply traumatic events going on. He was protecting her in the best, and really the only way he could.
to answer your question of Isshin's final getsuga tenshou; he was a proper soul reaper/shinigami. he probably trained with Jinzen and Engetsu a lot, considering he was a captain so, Engetsu probably told him about it, but didn't want to teach it to him. that's my theory as for his bankai, I think it combines what we saw of Isshin using his blood as fuel for the fire of his shikai (similar to Zanka no tachi west and Ichigo's style of power I think Isshin would either wear his power, or the power would stream out of him. though, when injured, the flow would be interrupted. also, about his elemental type zanpaktou, I think that's just the Shiba nature of his spirit energy. Kaien was water, Kukaku seems to be fire and Ganju is earth my personal thought of Ichigo's element, would be water; in the form of rain. (raining multiple getsuga tenshous)
@@Vini-zv3lr well, that spell is hado 63, so she should also know lower level ones. maybe it's the strongest one she knows. she also used kido to launch the group from the flower crane cannon
I feel sorry for Isshin. I mean, Masaki was the best mother figure in the show, he loses her, and he couldnt have done anything to change it, because he lost his powers and Masaki did as well right before her death. Not just that, but he didnt have much screentime either, talking about fights and action. Although his fight with Aizen was cool, showing off that he truly was a captain. And without his help Ichigo would not have been able to achieve Dangai form, nor his true shikai and bankai.
I'm going to admit it. But when Ichigo carries Isshin out of the Dangai, I teared up a bit. When he arrives while Ichigo and Aizen are fighting I was like "holy shit look who it is!"
People underestimate how strong isshin was,he matched Aizen in power and ability and never even revealed his bankai, he's probably only second to Yamamoto in overall strength
@@zenkairanger man there is much bleach never discussed. It would mean that Ichigo is a shiba and one of the royal houses. I wish we had a damn backstory
@@zenkairanger That's disrespecting Masaki Kurosaki though. Isshin made his choice, married Masaki and took the Kurosaki name. Yes, of course Isshin did it to keep a low profile and all that but during their time together while his link to her kept her alive, he genuinely fell in love with Masaki. I personally think if you wanna show the Shiba respect; double barrel it. Isshin and Ichigo Kurosaki-Shiba. XD
Imagine if Isshin mailed a letter to Soul Society after the White fiasco. “Dear everyone Sorry to say that I will never return, I have to stay close to this girl, probably start a family or something. You can give my position to Toshiro, he’s got his a good head on his shoulders. To make a long story short, Good luck. Sincerely. Isshin Kuros----- Shiba.”
It should have been a huge flash back in the fullbring arc. Everyone finding out about ichigo, kiskue begging for their help then Isshin revealing himself. Instead we just get the big moment where rukia snaps at renji.
@@Willhascookies _"Heavenly Radiant Scathing Moon"_ (天明剡月) to match with Tensa Zangetsu: _"Heavenly Chain Slaying Moon"_ (天鎖斬月) _En-_ can also mean 'smoke' or 'flame' depending on kanji, so it makes sense why this Zanpakuto is a Fire-type.
I actually hope that Getsu is a family related Zanpakuto, but that it shifts abit with each member. So it is kinda like the Getsu is specifically maybe a spirit that changes based on what element or type the Zanpakuto is. So you might have a fire based one for one member, thant a ice based on for another, a Kedou based one for even another, and a weapon form one too. I could see even that Zangetsu might even be kind of like a weapon Zanpakuto in that it does not really have a energy type (ice, fire, or such) but when released it changed shape an even in Banki it changed shape an even clad over his body. The fact that both his father an Ichigo can both use Getsuga tensho coould show that this is a ability native to the Zanpakuto, which is changed to fit the element type of the shinigami using it. An Ichigo's released an banki are more of the unique abilities of his Zanpakuto. It would be a fun idea an really explain alot, while also fitting quite nicely without really causing much issue. Even the idea that the hallow was his Zanpakuto matches, as the hallow might have joined with the Zanpakuto's spirit in the way it would with elements or other types.
My headcanon for the lost agent arc is that after finding out it would be possible to get Ichigo his powers back, Rukia had the super cute idea of doing it in a way that would remind him of the first day they met and she could be the first one he sees when he regains the ability to do so; and so she made everyone swear to secrecy because she wanted it to be a surprise. But of course because nobody is telling him anything shit hits the fan and now the surprise isn’t cute anymore because ichigo is literally trying to kill a guy now
Isshin is basically me as a dad. My two boys have no idea how I used to be in my early 20s and for good reason. There is alot of growth that comes with being a father, and I can respect kubo writing him the way he did.
I like that you mentioned that Isshin is really similar to Ichigo in Everything but the Rain because when I was first reading it I realized how much Masaki is like Orihime and how Isshin is like Ichigo so at the end when they both ended up together it made a lot of sense.
if you look back, I forgot if it was shown in the manga, but Kaien's wife also looks very much like Masaki with long hair and Orihime. So basically the all Shiba men have a clear type. Despite how much Kubo built up the closeness between Ichigo and rukia and their complementary natures and descriptions of their powers, Rukia had no chance 😁
I second this and what Nicolae mentioned. I was also of the mind that it the Masaki and Orihime similarities were Kubo jokingly mirroring real life lore. That being, it is often said that sons end up marrying "their mother" - or someone much like thier mother. And the Shiba clan having "a type" could be a bit of Dragon Ball Z inspired thing, with Saiyans having a clear attraction to "strong willed women" (Shibas are abit Saiyan like, to be honest).
There had to have been an off-screen conversation between Isshin and Rangiku after the battle with Aizen and I wish we got to see it, but unfortunately we didn't. Oh well.
I've always liked Isshin. The goofy "human" and the serious shinigami - suits him pretty well. But I didn't thought of Isshin in the Lost Agent Arc as a "bad father" or both not telling Ichigo was kinda dumb. If this kind of spiritual sword is just an "experiment" of Kisuke and has a potential chance to fail (in the end it worked well of course).. Giving his son some kind of "false hope" wouldn't feel right.
I hope we eventually get to see a father and son Getsuga Tensho at some point in the hell arc. That would be badass, also show us his damned bankai already!
I still remember how I felt when Ishin stepped out to take on Arrancar Gran Fisher. I was SO NOT SEEING IT COMING my mind went total bananas over the thought. I literally screamed at the screen "HOLY FUCK THAT EXPLAINS SO MANY THINGS ABOUT ISHIN AND ICHIGO"
I'm surprised that the central 46 never restored the family name and made ichigo a noble considering all that he is done for soul society then again there are many substitute souls reapers
In one of the light novel "Can't fear your own world" Tokinada Tsunayashiro former head of one of the four noble clans suggested to Byakuya and Yoruichi that because of Ichigo's deeds the Shiba clan should be re-instated back to nobility status as one of the 5 noble clans, but Yoruichi told him that non of the Shiba clan members wanted to go back to that life, and Ichigo was not the type of guy to want something like that
Thank you for doing a video on Isshin, he’s always been one of my favorites. There is so much about this character I admire. In many ways, he is sort of an anti-Byakuya (at least in the SS arc). He comes from a very noble family, he is naturally a powerful shingami, yet at no point do we see him treat anyone differently because because of this. In fact, he is willing to sacrifice this immediately to help someone that helped him. I love, love that scene that he immediately agrees to help Masaki with no hesitation. Not only does it connect Ichigo and Isshin in terms of personality, but it defines Isshin as someone who really doesn’t give any credence to power or status, he will help anyone (in this case, a Quincy). I agree that the blood war arc was leading up to Isshin doing something more. Part of me wishes that there was a Quincy introduced that connected Masaki, Ryuken, and Isshin all together for the latter two to fight. Maybe a family member of Masaki or Ryuken whose actions caused the deaths of both their spouses, almost like an anti Soken character. Not only would it showcase their powers a bit more, but maybe show their anger/rage that they keep back for the sake of their loved ones. Lastly, I mentioned this in a previous comment, but I love Isshin as a parent. He breaks many shonen dad archetypes. Like many of them, he has a hidden past and is powerful, but by the time the series starts, he is powerless. He spent years raising his family, being goofy, and being both an emotional support and a provider. Although the series shows him doting on his younger children, I do want to highlight his relationship with Ichigo. He trusts Ichigo to grow and make his own choices. Even when he gains his powers back and could theoretically be more of a mainstay figure, he doesn’t. I think he does this for two reasons: first, if he dies, his children no longer have a parent, which I don’t think he could bear leaving any of them (but namely the two younger) alone like that. Secondly, I think he wanted Ichigo to grow and make his own choices. Ichigo was a shingami/human/Quincy/hollow, in this world he was pretty much every being. Instead of trying to shape him into something, he instead took a supportive role, helping Ichigo when he needed him, but rarely telling him what to do. He never put a destiny on him, never told him he had to do this, or avoid that. He was quite simply his dad, someone that loved him and tried to help him, but still gave the power to his kid to make those choice. Really cool character.
My theory on how Isshin knows the final Getsuga is simple, Engetsu already told him about it and he has acquired it "just in case". We don't know the relationship between Isshin and Engetsu but I highly doubt it's as turbulent as Zangetsu and Ichigo. Zanpaktous tend to only reveal greater techniques, like Bankai, when the Shinigami has gotten to a certain strength. Based on the fight with Aizen I think it's safe to say Isshin is much stronger than a regular captain. So I think Engetsu has taught Isshin this technique as a "last resort". I also think Isshin's relationship with Engetsu was probably very close, similar to Zaraki and Yachiru. I do believe Kubo intended to have Isshin use it in the past and why he had to get his powers back but then decided against it to tie in the Quincy arc.
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Maybe Ichigo can use getsuga tensho like his dad because the hollow inside Masaki learned it or it was imprinted onto it while Isshin was spiritually tethered to Masaki. I’d like that to be the case more so than hereditary zanpakuto stuff.
Isshin’s backstory is one of the coolest things in the series, and the Shiba clan connection is probably my favorite thing. One question that I don’t think is formally addressed, how does the Soul Society react to a Captain going missing like this? I feel like losing a Captain isn’t a normal occurrence, so how did they handle that on their end. Like we know Toshiro becomes the Captain, but that’s something that happens closer to the beginning of the series if my memory is correct. Just being in a Gigai doesn’t Necessarily means they forgot about him right, just that it makes him harder to find. Same thing with Shiba Clan, he’s the head of the household, did they just presume him dead for all this time, without even bothering to search for him? Another thing, Rangiku and Toshiro both stay in Ichigo’s house right? Are we to assume that they either didn’t know who his father was or that they never came in contact with him at any point? This is more similar to your point about the Vizards, and Urahara not being upfront with Isshin about their nature, but at the same time telling him about his experiences with regarding Hollowfication. Like it’s a really great backstory, with maybe like a few moments of disbelief suspension that need to be accounted for. I could be completely off base with questions and those may have been answered elsewhere, but these questions have been bugging me for a while now.
Isshin is not head of Shiba clan Kaien was, he is head of branch of Shiba clan. Since Shiba clan went from one of 5 noble clans to almost nothing I do not think Isshin was their primary concern. But it was cool seeing Shiba clan helping out their relative even if they didn't know who Ichigo really was.
Yeah that’s right, my mistake! Still you wouldn’t think that Losing such a powerful member of the clan would have called them to action, or that we would even see how the Gotei 13 responds to such an event. I do agree though, Kukaku and Ganju helping Ichigo without knowing he was related to them is really dope. I lowkey would love to see Isshin interact with some of these characters if there’s time in the anime.
That's wat they need to clear up Toshiro and Rangiku just all of a sudden don't remember him like wat, they was with him right before he came down to Earth and he was their captain
The tragedy is that Isshin knows Misaki is truly gone, he's never going to see her. So him talking about seeing her in heaven and such is just him telling everyone a blatant lie, bit of comic relief, but on the other parts giving them a sense of relief when they go to the afterlife since they will likely never see her with how big the soul society is.
Regarding Isshin not talking to Ichigo when he was depressed. I always thought Ichigo had to be in that state for him to regain his powers. Like the Quincy who had to empty his power reserve and be shot near the heart. Different kind of weakening but similar technic. One to repair a body(Qincy using too much reiatsu), the other to repair the soul (Ichigo losing his zanpakuto, which is part of his soul)
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Isshin should have played a bigger role in the Fullbring Arc with Ichigo and him answering their questions or developing their relationship after the Aizen fight. Maybe he could have helped Ichigo get his powers back with some assistance from Engetsu, since they are a part of the Shiba clan. It would have been cool to see his Zanpakuto manifestation. Tite Kubo just continues to waste character opportunities and potentials.
An idea I liked very much before TYBW was that Ichigo's mother was the daughter of the Soul King and Isshin was a member of the Zero Division and her protector. Then, through whatever means, they end up on Earth, and decide not to return to Soul Society or are unable to do so, so they marry and start a family. With all due respect to Kubo, I've always felt making Masaki a Quincy added a bit too much baggage to Ichigo's familial history, but making it so both of Ichigo's parents had ties to Soul Society alone might have given his character arc and the revelations of his powers a tighter focus. However, I do hope we can see the story Kubo did give us fleshed out more in the near future.
A small detail about Isshin having his revenge on grand fisher and "stealing" it from Ichigo is that you actually have to remember that grand fisher wasn't actually Masaki's killer. In the TYBW arc we learn that Isshin knows that, and it's even foreshadowed during memories in the rain, when Isshin gives his little speach to Ichigo, completely unphased by the battle that took place and sort of just not really being excited over grand fisher defeat! Same goes for when he actually kills grand fisher
I would have loved to see a quick reunion between ishin, toshiro and rangiku. Like right before ichigo fight aizan. Kubo could have given Rangiku a page. With rangiku being like "no way, he's ichigo's father." Then with toshiro right after ichigo fight ginjo. Where toshiro go to kisuke's shop to meet ishin. Where we get a quick one page of them two talking Toshiro"it's been a while since I seen you Captain." Ishin"it's nice to see you too. But remember I'm not longer your captain nor you my subordinate. I've always knew that you would become captain one day."
24:14 the other thing I feel like could be highlighted more (by Kubo) is Isshin not only losing Masaki but also Ichigo's childhood innocence is destroyed with the horror of having his mother die in front of him and carrying around that guilt forever. Like I can't imagine how traumatizing that was for Ichigo and Isshin.
I find it so annoying that Ichigo either doesn't know that Kaien, Ganju and Kukaku are his cousins yet or he chooses to ignore it... odd because Isshin has already told Ichigo he's a Shiba so, what's going on there?
Well I chalk it up to ichigo being kinda dense sometimes so even if he knows he's a shiba him not being the sharpest knife in the drawer he wouldn't put those things together on his own
@@darknesswave100 I don't know because Ichigo is extremely book smart and well read. Remember at the start of the series when he was still in school and studied hard? He got good grades time and time again during exam season, so I'm not sure if he's that dense lol also the fact he hasn't recognised that Isshin, Kaien, Ganju and Kukaku have the same unique nose bugs me a little bit... I just want to see his reaction or all of them together I guess 😂
Isshin is easily one of my favorite characters in the series. I remember being so hyped with his reveal as a shinigami as I read the manga back in the day.
I would've liked to see Isshin enter Gerard's battle and have his flames be able to burn everything and i mean EVERYTHING, meaning his flames could burn away the power of the Miracle.
It makes since. Wasn't it imply that Isshin and Kisuke what to the Soul Society during the Lost Agent Arc, it's possible Isshin went and visted the Shiba clan since he was gone for a while. He probably could have told them Ichigo was his son, and that's how they probably found out. They have an importance of family but at the same time they didn't know you can go with related to them because Isshin was gone for so long... So when Kukaku mentioned there "mysterious uncle", I was unfazed by it.
At this point I want Isshin's bankai to be a fire based zanpakutou but instead of simply controlling fire like Yamamoto he can produce like a blue fire which is the hottest burning flame
I recently introduced a friend to Bleach, and he hated Ishin's character. Once he saw the reveal of him being a shinihami he absolutely changed his mind about him. Great analysis of Ishin btw, love your content.
I was always comforted by Isshin as a father in comparison to my own, I have only further gained respect for him and the love he has for his children/wife from this video. Thank you 🙏🏼
I think he knows he can't hate hollows because his son is a third hollow basically. If you think about it, Hlhe doesn't condemn hollows to death just for existing because if Ichigo ever lost control you know he'd evacuate the scene and then stay with Ichigo until he either came back to his senses or died trying.
Something I have always wondered is what exactly happened to Masakis soul... 1. Her soul followed the cycle of reincarnation with its reiatsu becoming apart of the world and the personality starting a new 2a. Since she was a Quincy her soul was devoured by a hollow and is gone for good 2b. Since she was a Quincy her soul was devoured but when Grand Fisher was cleansed and it began reincarnation (What if the hollow is killed instead of cleansed?) 3a. Her soul became apart of the All Mighty either right away or after Isshin did the cleansing 3b. It is unlikely but I kinda assumed apart of her was always within Ichigo and Ywach stole that in the final fight Whatever the outcome I hope that Kubo gives some explanation in the new Hell arc on what happens to Quincy souls because it's not just hers I'm curious about now that I think about it 🤔
That's what I also want to know The rukia explained this however it didn't really makes sense, same with the soul chain, and the tap on the head what happened to that, the heaven and hell and purgatory don't make sense, it seems the soul society as rukia said is purgatory but the zero division is God but that's soul king, It's gets even insane, hell ichigo went and it makes no sense. I believe her soul is in heaven like God heaven Catholic wise because if the soul or soul ⛓️ she didn't had Once she got killed and she knew as ichigo father told him it had to be done ( the blood wat arc wth) so she can be at peace, even a episode in vs the espada that A question" do you pray to a God?" The espada that said that to the soul reaper made me wonder are soul reapers Saints or quincy because quincy palace looks like a church
@@isshishiroorderofgoldenkit3550 probably not in any slight at all, seeing you have pass through the underworld to be judged, remember you have to pass through there before going where else
@@maymay5600 but the hell verse isn't Cannon right? And hell is not truly hell cause it makes no sense. I'm still studying the not basic but Going to deep inside the reality and fantasy
I noticed now after a year of watching bleach, Ichigo and Ishida is motherless, Orihime and Chad are both orphans….it’s quite depressing after I noticed….Well, awesome character analysis as always!!!!
One of the moments I knew something was up. Was when byakuya told Rukia that this man looks just like him. He was referring to how Ichigo looks a lot like his cousin the only real differences what is their hair color.
Yes! ...finally had the opportunity to finish the video. ...Sooo worth it! Thanks for this and this new series of "forgotten/sidelined" characters. And believe it or not, although I've known about the whole Shiba family connection, but this is the first time I'm learning that he's an Uncle! Ganju & Ichigo are 1st cousins! 🤯 Side note: From the moment of Isshins 1st "reveal" I've always been bothered by "How the heck could no one from Soul Society NOT have recognized Ichigo's father? Even if certain characters never actually met; they've must have at least seen family portraits. I've rewatched Bleach countless times and always mean to watch for things, but I always forget to pay attention to certain details by getting lost in the experience.
During rewatching "The DiamondDust Rebellion" last year I noticed an accidental easter egg. Hitsugaya sleeps in Ichigos room and leaves his hayori behind. This means that the hayori of the 10th division captain and Isshin were in the same house there and he could have "just taken it back".
Isshin truly belongs to the troope of seemingly goofy characters who in reality are wise badasses. As for the inconsistencies; - Grand Fisher's attack on the graveyard; perhaps Isshin's powers haven't recovered yet. - Isshin not knowing about Vizards; Urahara is kind of shady and doesn't tell the full truth to basically anyone - Isshin and Shinji not recognizing each other's spiritual pressure; there's quite some time between them so when Shinji left Isshin was perhaps just a lower seated officer The plothole that I don't get is how come Rukia doesn't recognize Isshin. I mean she was a Shinigami for decades while Isshin was a captain who left only 20 years ago. But I guess that it can be explained that Rukia was focused on Kuchiki's and Kaien's death while since nothing much was happening, she probably never saw him in person even if she surely knew his name.
Also Shinji is a vizard to that could have something to do with his Espiritual energy being different and isshin barely got his powers back so that could also have something to do
Thank you for doing a video on Isshin. One of my favorites. I sincerely hope we get more of him, either extra content in the anime or in the possible “Hell arc” in the future. Maybe the Shiba clan has more secrets to be explored.
I think Isshin being swatted aside so easily by Fishbone D, in retrospect, really showed off just how much weaker he was without his powers, being easily almost killed by something that defeating back in the day would've been as easy as drawing breath. Also, about what he said about the Vizards after getting his powers back is likely him just repeating the verdict written about them that the Central 46 would've published. You have to remember, when Isshin first met Urahara, he didn't know anything about what really happened that night, and Isshin himself was still under the idea that Urahara was a notorious criminal that probably collaborated with the Vizards to help them gain that power, hence why Urahara would've known about the way to stop the Vizards' souls from self destructing. He only agreed to give up his powers to save Masaki with his help because he owed her, and Urahara was seemingly the only one who could help. Sure, they got to know each other a lot better after, but I don't think the topic of the Vizards really came up. And in terms of his overall power, being able to swap with Aizen, Isshin IS a member of the Shiba Clan, one of the families that are just born naturally incredibly powerful. And he took that to a high class Captain Level, with Shinji and even Ichigo taking note of just how absurdly powerful his Reiatsu felt, even from several miles away. I also love how his Zanpakuto is basically Ryuujin Jakka 2.0, having some Reiatsu compressing abilities added, as that's what's need for Getsuga Tensho.
Urahara is notorious for not telling anybody the whole story at first... so him not telling Isshin about the vizards could fit... and Isshin didn't have any spiritual pressure until around the time he kills grand fisher. So it can work how it came across. At least that's how I made it all make sense to me
Isshin waking Ichigo up with an attack wasn't cruel, it was training. The cruel thing would have been letting him grow up weak even knowing his potential.
I can understand isshin in the fullbring arc. He knows his son is very depressed, but did they even know their plan would work? Giving someone in that place empty hope is a bad thing. I understand Ichigo as well. Ichigos question when stabbed shows he actually still trusted them, but he was so desperate to get out of his emotional hole he was willing to trust strangers and it backfires in the most horrible way for him.
In the last couple of days I watched at least 50 of your videos and I can't stop! Like you I was a weekly reader from around the time the Arrancars were introduced. Bleach was THE series for me and I was very invested in the fandom (especially lore speculation!!). Sadly I had largely checked out after Byakuya was resurrected and the pacing became so obviously rushed. After all these years all I could recall about the final arc was the disappointment I felt at pretty much everything about it and the series conclusion. Which is why I'm really grateful to have found your channel. It helped me remember what I really enjoyed about Bleach, and appreciate the work Kubo put into it. Hope the new anime and manga deliver!!
Stumbled across this channel a few months ago while looking for some Isshin content. Like the channel but now that you have exactly what I was looking for you have my sub. Thanks!
finally, took you long enough and maybe the reason why the charm/talisman didn't used in soul society arc is because ichigo leaves it with his body, he is in shinigami form when entering soul society, so it is possible his body stay at urahara's place with all of his belonging
I have had thoughts on this very idea about the final getsuga, getsuga, and isshin. All quincy have the blood of ywach in them. Masaki also has white inside her. Isshin has to sacrifice his soul reaper powers to save masaki but we really dont know the method as kisuke only talks about making a vaccine to counter soul reapers infected with hollows. If isshin is effectively using his soul reaper powers to counter white, its possible that he had to perform the final getsuga to prevent masakis death, hence the reason he lost his powers. It is also possible, as his power was put into masaki to allow him to save her, (pulling her out of whites literal jaws) he gained access to white and the zangetsu that ichigo acquired. We have seen family techniques and swords so sharing certain familial powers isnt outside the realm of possibility either. Ganju talks about the existence of secret clan techniques in the initial arc, and is also a shiba. My theory: getsuga tenshou is a family technique. The final getsuga is also familial. Him losing his powers was due to him using the final getsuga to hold white at bay in masaki.
So like. Love the video as always my man. Also congrats on 100k. The whole lost agent ark, where ya know ichigo is suspicious of everyone and Isshin could’ve just “said something”, I 100% agree. However, you said it yourself, ichigo was super depressed, and if his father knew if a way, but didn’t know it would actually work he wouldn’t want to get his hopes up. And would want to keep it a ‘surprise’. But since ichigo isn’t thinking all that clearly of course even just the slightest push from ginjo would make him suspicious of his own family and mentor. That’s just my two cents. Again man, keep up the good work love the video!
