A Thorough Deconstruction Of Elden Ring’s Lore And Themes. 

This implies that we as a society can create a mending rune of child labor

@@blargghkipbut how 🤔

@@apolloisnotashirtIndustrialisation and extreme cost-cutting

@@asmagamer728 wrong! Brainwashing!

Wait until you hear about the child labour laws being rolled back in conservative states in the US lmao mending the rune of child labour is already real ​@@blargghkip

I believe he’s also doing the inner or outer pose as well on the hilt. You can barley tell.

I have trained long and hard for this moment!

Bro the fact that you said banger means it aint

Literally just found this channel. HOW DID NO ONE TELL ME???

That makes two of us.

The crazy thing is every RU-vidr has this same comment under one or more of his videos

Excoose me who is you beach

It’s definitely been pointed out before, but yeah it is definitely interesting

@@extrathicc78where and when was it theorized?

@@apolloisnotashirt just search Ranni and Melina, you’ll find a few. Including a video called “Ranni is Melina” which is pretty popular from two years ago

@@apolloisnotashirt it won’t let me respond for some reason when I give specifics idk lol, there’s a video from 2 years ago about it just search for it

@@apolloisnotashirt no idea why but RU-vid won’t let me reply lol sorry man I’m sure you can figure out where they are

Wouldn't even need this ending if mohg just let miquella do his job.

@@reign1594 You, have a great point.

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@@JoseViktor4099 He was talking about the video title, not Elden Ring

@@ClassicPopble Oh sorry.

@@ClassicPopble *she, but yes.

I prefer the more poetic/abstract titles as well, but these kind of titles do better with the youtube algorithm. And if the titles get sacrificed to the algorithm but the content stays excellent, I don't mind the less interesting algorithmic titles

@@nautil_us Do they really? That's surprising.

Let you know. 90% of Elden Ring fans actually aren't sure what the Elden Ring is.

No one really knows, and we assume more well-spoken people do. Elden Ring's lore works as commentary on our own efforts to reconcile our need for meaning with the natural world and the established lore we have around real world religions

Fromsoft sucks at storytelling. Its not your fault for not understanding it.

@@kitno6415 0/10

@@ThommyofThenn you could say i dissagre instead of whatever the fuck that rating means

While term of Outer God might not be right term to use for the Greater Will, we have plenty of evidence that not only the Greater Will exists (Hyetta, The Elden Beast itself, etc) but that other “Outer” gods function similar to it. Especially sending Envoys of the wills ( Twin bird’s Outer god and Death birds) with the Fingers and the Elden Beast. Not to mention the connection with Empyreans and needing a physical vassal for their Order ei Marika ( Malenia with the Rot god, Miquella with the Formless mother, Ranni, etc). Whatever the Greater Will should be called, it’s pretty obvious it’s very similar to the other Outers Gods. Calling it God would be the more appropriate way to describe it as it is THE god as of now, however due to how Marika is also referred to as god. The Greater Will very much like the Outer Gods would like to know evidence you have to make this claim.

By that definition the only thing that differentiates the Greater Will from other Outer Gods is the labels it's devote followers gave to it. No different from saying the Christan God is different from all other gods because Christianity says it's different.

​​​@@Rusty_Spycompletely wrong. Outer Gods represent forces of nature that the Elden Ring can easily seal and keep into a Rune, like - most importantly - Death. Clearly the ER has no chance of tinkering with the GW as the GW is its creator. Heck, one Outer God even gets sealed into a lake by... a visually impaired swordsman. Good luck trying to seal a demiurgic entity that operates from lightyears of distance. There's a massive difference in scale at work here.

The christian conception of God IS actually different. Read the church fathers

​@@Rusty_SpyOuter Gods are embodied ideologies. The Greater Will is Natural Law, or the Monotheistic God, or Nature Itself. Ranni's ending is a massive double-edged sword, obfuscating reality so nobody can be certain just means everyone will draw whatever conclusions they want and go to war still. She's a cosmic midwit and a pawn of Miquella, Miquella who is literally trying to go one step further than Ranni and *destroy reality itself* by finding the Sun and snuffing it out.

The idea of meaning coming from within? Isn't that just Jean paul Sartre's model of existentialism? Where due to the "god-shaped" hole in our hearts, yet the alleged absence of a God, people must create their own meaning day by day? It also seems a bit similar to Nietzche as well. Although he believed the human needed to overcome something and obtain a sense of total dominance and independence as the "meaning", if one chooses to interpret it that way.

@@thesnatcher3616 sartre and camus have a lot of overlap in that respect, yeah. i mean they were roughly contemporaries and both reacting in large part to the humiliation and horror of the nazi occupation of france, and also to france's ongoing occupation of algeria

​@@thomasstone3480 Makes sense. I feel like current history classes underemphasize the sheer impact WWII had on our contemporary culture, whether it may be pop, ideaological, and societal. It wasn't just six million Jews that were killed. The rest of the Jewish community and the rest of the western world were left with scars that still exist today. And the moral panic of the Cold War just made things worse. Not to mention, Nazis sort of became the new "devils" in our day to day language. Everytime someone does something that on person doesn't like, or defends an idealogy that they disagree with, they either call them "Nazis 2.0" or "Orwellian"(something to do with 1984). Instead of our pop culture heroes fighting demons and devils(or some other equivalent), we(at least in America) fight Nazis and gun them down en masse. Just watch movies like Indiana Jones. It's so weird to think of a world where NONE of this really exists. But as for thoughts on Sartre myself, I am inclinded to disagree with it rather strongly, partially due to my preference for St. Aquinas' "Natural Law"(something Ceave forgot to mention!!! CS Lewis did not come up with!) where a God DOES exist, but also due to how while Sartre's theory sounds nice on paper, it doesn't really do much for a person who's inherent moral character can be described as "less then socially acceptable". Sartre himself, along with his pseudo wife, allegedly molested a large number of his students, with his wife's help. And I very much doubt his ideals in this matter really did much to hinder him. There was a whole memoir released from one of his victims I think. Existencialism sounds nice, but it doesn't lend itself to create a form of discipline and order that the individual may not already possess. It assumes that humans will always make the right choice I feel. Maybe I'm misinterpreting though. But the idea of creating new meaning can easily be abused and doesn't create a situation where an indvidual can be called out on. But I guess Natural Law can be the same as people, even in the Christian worldview, constantly disobey it and don't care about ramifications of said disobedience. Not to mention it might get a little too close to a form of "utilitarianism" if it's enforced. Idk though. I'm still young and I'm still learning.

@@thesnatcher3616 ultimately i think if you judge a philosophy by the worst actions of its adherents, none of them come out well- for me, i find the idea of an external and absolute morality uncompelling, and that the politics of most of the people i find most harmful in the world are informed by at least a claimed belief in some absolute external standard that allows them to enforce their ideal of a rigid and 'natural' status quo upon the most vulnerable. obviously, you are correct that there's nothing intrinsic about existentialism or nihilism that means the self-derived morality of it can't be grievously wrong, but within myself at least i think i can argue from first principles why i think x or y is moral based on what i see and think and feel and not external dogma that feels frequently inconsistent with decency and humanity

@thomasstone3480 I see. Although, going by that logic, no form of any law can be posited as it may infringe upon the individual as it all depends on how one defines an absolute standard. Absolute standard in the context of law? man? indivdual? Or God? On the topic of God, again, there are differing views on his role in terms of morality. Will he lead us to the correct morality? Is their a natural conciouness? What is natural and what isn't? Not to mention, you're assuming that you have no subconscious external dogma of your own that may either supplement or poison some of your judgments. How much of external dogma is in reality, subconous dogma? If anything, the idea and value of an individual can be seen as an absolute "value." In fact, by what standard is "being harmful" to the world "harmful" at all? Surely, there is some benefit being gained by those in power who seek to suppress the marginalized. Obviously, both you and I will say this is wrong. Why do we say so? Because people are suffering? Because of empathy? But who is to say we should be governed by empathy at all? What about people who feel no such thing? Or negotiate said empathy away for some other dogma? I feel like for so many people, it really is just one dogma vs. another Dogmas vs. Dogmas. Ideas vs ideas. Morals vs. Morals. My point is that no one can truly live without imposing some form of standard upon either themselves or others. Everyone is informed by some kind of external dogma. Have you ever asked yourself why you think that decency and humanity even matter? Perhaps it may just "feel right." A lot of other things may feel right for some people, yet we condemn them. And you wouldn't do everything that felt right either for the "good of humanity." But why do you even consider the good of humanity to inform a "moral" action? Perhaps enforcing said oppresive policies that undermine decency and humanity felt right to them? Not to mention, are you not going against your initial claim of categorizing the worst actions of an adherent to an ideaology to check it's validity being a bad methodology(which I would agree with), yet you condemn those who hold the ideaology who hold an external standard that is to be enforced or coerced(physically, rationally, etc.) as also being heinous, and use that to form your opinion on it. But you have granted that it is for you and you alone. And in case you're wondering, yes, I caught your subtext. I know exactly what you are referring to. Especially in the midst of our country's political jungle. Odd since you brought it up, as I mentioned Thomas Aquinas. But I will not put words into your mouth. I am not really debating. I probably can't debate you and win. I am still young and learning. I'm just spitballing and holding ideas up to scrutiny.

that's a great way to phrase it! i've never been able to put a finger on why i like how ceave phrases things, only that i do, but i think this really sums it up nicely. he's very able to explain things both within and outside of the context of the game he's analyzing, and as a result it only ever comes off like the game has a bias, but not ceave himself. sometimes he does get very excited about certain ideas, but even then i get the sense it's more about "isn't this concept so cool" or "doesn't the game do a great job of thematically weaving this in?" rather than him agreeing with them.

Dont rush it! It is a wonderful game, and you should try to explore as much as you can. This video wont go anywhere, and im sure all elden ring fans agree that the first playthrough is something truely special!

@@lightningfox0654 Don’t plan on rushing it, I look at myself in the mirror every morning and ask myself “Am I going to quickly, do I know how sad Ill be when its all over?” It’s such a surreal experience and I try to take my time to explore each area. I love it dude, you’re 100% right, ima take it slow. Thanks for the hype advice! Also Draconic tree sentinel is a bs boss fight and Greyoll doesn’t deserve to die for 2 levels aint nobody changing my mind there.

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Yay you watched it!!! Sorry I was so enthusiastic about it yesterday. I was a bit tipsy and I’m a very happy drunk 🤣😂👏👏👏

I just realised how badly I want to hear you talk about Marika. When are you going to talk about Marika?

The SandKings bit was my favourite! It’s the part that made me feel like you had to know about this video lol. But all the Nietzsche stuff and, ugh, just everything else. What a great video this was. I can’t wait for Miquella’s master plan!!!

He also incorporated GRRM influences to really hit things home. Once he revealed the book he was talking about was GRRM, I was fully lock in. Very few talks about GRRM’s influences which is infuriating especially Miyazaki being a self proclaimed fan but instead just make Berserk connect whether it makes any sense or not.

great point me as well cus he linked the real life inspiration of grrm nd the artistic translation of miyazaki

ohh i like that interpretation! makes total sense to me. it'd be like saying "stop trying to get into valhalla and start trying to get into heaven" lol

Flambée? I thought that was for crêpe, not pizza.

You shouldn't, it's against the golden order

sounds like an amazing time hehe

Did you enjoy it?

@heyhonpuds yes I did. I saved the rest for when I'm gonna finish the video (which is now)

isn't the beginning of every ceave perspective video pretty dense?

I'm trying to kill elden beast with axe of godfrey rn

​@@shilohmagic7173 Usually the philosophy crash course comes in art 3 or 4, not part 1.

@@witherschat oh. I like the philosophy crash course, it's like, my favorite part of every ceave perspective video.

@@shilohmagic7173 I'm not saying it's bad. Just that it might scare new viewers lol.

The dead will not be judged by the circumstances of their life and death whether they are follow the Order or not. Dungeater feels like Original Sin dogma, where the only salvation is through forgivness as we are irredeemable by ourselves. Fia feels more like Marcus Aurelious where the dead should not be judged by how devout they were in life.

In spiritualy it means preperation to your next life

Accurate and true. You should make a video to set all these lore speculators straight about what we actually experience as the story when playing the game.

@@mistakai4226 the thing is people confuse lore with story. Like its cool the world has history and stuff, but most of the time it tells you this in text dumping or some person talking to you.