Still smiling and positive, wow! Thanks for bringing us through the battle with you Steve. It'll be very interesting to see what's going on with the converter. Also very counterintuitive about not having the rod bolts torced if they're not being used?
this channel is one of my favorite channels now. you do a great job powering through the happenings while explaining everything to us so we learn. thanks steve! keep on keeping on
Steve, its chunks of weld from the turbine vanes hitting the clutch cover breaking off. You bend the vanes and weld them in place, I bet that is what it is.
In the first video where Steve showed the chunks.....if you look closely at 20:48 you can see that these chunks are smooth, irregularly shaped and NOT broken off welds. If you have to...take a screen shot and blow it up to look at them in detail. Those are shot from a cleaning/deburring operation that got trapped in the pump housing I'll make a bet.
@@recoilrob324 Potentially I would not rule that out. but if you go back to yesterday video, when he is holding the turbine, you can see where the turbine was rubbing across the welds, at one point it looks like one weld is partly missing. I used to work for a well knowndiesel performance converter and transmission shop. We never used small shot to clean converter parts, every thing went thru a chemical parts cleaner. I could be wrong be definitely something I would look into.
Man that sucks, a string of failures one after the other! Awesome you can keep up the diplomatic face, I know the feeling and it sucks when nothing goes your way. Better luck going forward Steve, truly.
I feel you on the customers first thing. I deal with it on a much smaller level, but it is the same thing. My car comes last. I hope you recover your car soon. Sorry this happened I’ve been through many similar things.
Wow Steve what a bummer!! Your patience is awesome I admire your out look and the logic you use chasing down the issues you are having your dedication to keeping your customers racing as well !! Keep up the. Great work ! I can tell your feeling it but we enjoy your work and the content!!
To keep "UP"... All the effort... with a series of back to back calamities, trying to get on the line to race; then have a major incident? What a "BUMMER!" Steve! (& of course the team included!) ALL OF YOU RACERS: Are just: "TRUE GRIT!" J
Steve been watching you for a while. I never post to very many channels, but I have to say something. The professional and Christian way you handle yourself through adversity says a lot about your character and as you as a man. I am very old school and was around and hearing people like Warren Johnson, Don Prudhome and others throw temper tantrums and say things I didn’t need to hear. You remind me of Don Garlits, he was a very nice man. Steve keep up the good work. You are showing people how a Christian should act and a very good roll model for others. Dennis Ringgold Georgia
Well done with keeping the positive attitude. The crap coming out of the torque converter does look like some sort of media from a blasting process. Hopefully you will be able to do a more detailed teardown and inspection, best wishes from England
I Wish I had a Sneaky Pete bottle full of your positiveness! Steve you truly show us how to smile after getting boot kicked... THANKS Those pieces in the converter we something about .015 smaller & it all was from a torington bearing that wasn't really visible. GOD Bless ya Brother
Wow what a drag Steve, but you still have time to make it to Rocky Mountain Race Week, everyone would live to see you out here....letssss.....goooooo....
Does look like media blasting pellets. Suspect somebody at Chance's shop or assembly process did major screw up or worse! We really enjoy Steve Morris and crew. Thanks for the good videos and amazing engineering and educatings us non machinist. Best wishes!
What I love most about this channel and Steve is that when he has an issue he holds nothing back in figuring out what the issue is but the best part is what he does to fix the issue. Always trying to fund a solution is key and if he cant fix it himself he finds the right people to help. Your work ethic is amazing
Steve, Wagon and team! I'm feeling your pain! It's amazing how you can maintain a sense of humour when you are so absolutely gutted and disappointed. I love how you all find the time to engage with everyone including spectators and how everyone (even your competitors) helps each other out. 3:18 Steve physically where the transmission should be, explaining stuff is hilarious 😂😂😂 Keep up the good work and we all know you'll be back with an even more Bad Ass wagon! Take care!
Steve there is an issue with aluminum material right now. The only Manufacture refusing to compromise material or put a disclaimer on there rods remaining torqued is Don Schumacher Racing. Ask John Dunn. Mike Janis Can get them for you also.
Damn Steve! I feel your pain… Always gotta ram and jam on our stuff, customers stuff comes first… Sometimes it’s a losing battle lol. My trucks been down for 6 months waiting for a block to get machined. Tore it down to ring and bearing it in preparation for a Torqstorm, found a crack in #7… Had all the parts laid out, ready to go, started wiping and cleaning each cylinder before assembly and #7 had something that wouldn’t wipe out… lol. Just sucks… How it goes sometimes… nothing we can do about it… good attitude though… 👍🤘👏
You have often said you welcome help, so here goes…. I can see the stripped coil of aluminum on one bolt and a broken bolt on the shank, from what appears to be near the last thread. I’ve tested Detroit Diesel compound, CMD3 with and without oil, engine oil,and ARP lubes both the old smooth formula and the Ultratorque and recorded stretch and torque scatter on high end rod bolts both 7/16 and 12mm. I also note that you often use DD (peanut butter) and if you use that on the rod bolts at the recommended torque for the rod I can guarantee the rod bolts are stretched past maximum and scatter will be high…. I just did a set of ARP L19 rod bolts with it and I was 25 lb-ft below the recommended torque at the proper stretch…. And I had 15 lb-ft of variation bolt to bolt. As for releasing bolt tension once properly stretched I find that unlikely. A bolt can be stretched at least ten times to spec and will return to starting length +\- .0001”. As for brands we broke MGP and GRP at low runs but never had an R and R break…. Even at 10,000 RPM with a 1000 gram pin and piston combination. My best to you and your team, you have created some amazing products and you boys work your butts off….I’m sure you’ll get it all sorted.
Brother I'm %100 team Morris Engines right now! 🤘 Always pushing forward, get that car running and go fast down the track. That's all that matters. Stick with it, can't wait to see what you accomplish 🏆
Im in awe of you just watching this I know people that woud have given up after the first problem You are the epitomy of perseverance i worked on a circle track car and knoww what you have to do to get it into the show your never done
My heart is broken, brand brand new engine, put together by the best person in the world, and it breaks a rod in the very first burn out? Steve: I am so sorry bud. That hurt!
It was really cool to see that car in person this weekend. The workmanship is incredible. Those little balls are the result of the stainless galling because the rotors are interfering with each other.
Ever worked with those bolt together converters before? First time I have seen one, kinda cool being able to crack it open right at the track without cutting it apart
@@jnkfishing9274 Cool. I watch precision transmissions on here and I have only ever seen the old guy use single piece converters. Awesome channel but it looks like hes done uploading due to family drama
You have the best attitude. I probably would have a heart attack every time something went wrong....good thing I can't afford to do your craft. You Sir have the best Race Car channel. Stay safe,and will be looking forward to the next video.
My bet is a bad cap bolt. From what I can see in the pan one bolt cleanly broke at the bottom of the shoulder maybe 1-2 threads down With almost no plastic deformation. While the other bolt was strong enough to rip the threads out of the rod, I say get that broken bolt checked for hardness at the break. My theory is the bolt snapped causing all the strain to pass to the other bolt pulling the threads out.
Man ohh Man soooooo sorry Steve damn man my Heart aches such a nice man and to have all this bad luck nothing but love from my Family to yours Steve i'll pick up a shirt here soon everyone who can help this good man out not many in the World who deserve it this man does!!!!
Im gonna order another shirt from him also.. he needs to get this cR back on the track but take a little extra time to overlook and do some in house tuning before hitting the track..
I hope things get figured out. Looking forward to following you on this confusing chapter. Wishing you and your crew the best. All of Gods blessings to you and yours...
Don't even screw around with it, just replace the entire cooler. Especially at this level the potential cost of any particulate not being flushed vastly exceeds the value of the new cooler.
@@yasha1928transmission building for years. Absolutely change the cooler . We won’t fit a reconditioned box without a new cooler . Some people flush them with trans fluid. Never any type of solvent because the crap will work it’s way loose a week after flushing. Solvents seem to dislodge gunk .
Sorry we couldn't make it--work commitments precluded the fun. Your frustration is felt Steve, and we'd like to share the following: The "don't leave the rods under tension" with the rod bolts makes zero sense as the material does not change under that level of load for extended periods of time and there's no historical indication of that or the dissimilar materials causing galvanic action as the bolts do no react with the rod material. We would lean toward reviewing the certification from the AL supplier which in this case would likely be Kaiser aluminum. We've been using Titan out of Oak Park MI for AL QC and they are both very good at their craft, the turn around time is fast and they are somewhat local in your neck of the woods as they can analyze the material for both alloy composition and tensile. Give Dewey lots of belly rubs! Cheers!
If the ROD manufacturer says rod bolts should be in relaxed mode then after machining they should relax them , rods sometimes sit in inventory for a period of time
You are a inspiration and a stand up guy Steve that's why I love watching your channel that and your a damn smart guy I've learned a ton by just watching
Looks like metal media from a tumbler. Maybe to clean or debur the parts inside the converter. That have been stuck in the fins. And missed on assembly. Of it
Ok, dude - I hope you take us on the full journey of finding the root cause because the suspense is killing me - just like the conn rods that grenade on you, this seems to be an odd issue. Great to see Ms Taylor made it to the track. You guys/gals rock.
I love that the wagon has all that work into it and is such a badass well engineered machine through and through. But it still has a bit of belt squeal. That is just awesome 😂
Thank you team Steve for posting all the great videos on your channel. I get by using exactly 20 minute power naps,/mediation when my mind refuses to shut down for normal sleep. Darn good looking station wagon even setting still .
I would have been so pissed when the car broke at the starting line for the 3rd time in a weekend. Steve you have a lot cooler head than I do and that’s why we love you brother! Keep it boosted. Keep breaking shit! And I’ll keep watching.
Hang in there Steve would gladly trade places with you.Worked in my Uncle's Automotive Machine shop in the early 90. Boring blocks with an old bolt on main saddle boring rig. We did have a pretty neat line boring machine...i got to bore mains on big Brodix. But stuff happens to test your willingness. And then things will get really good!!
I’m going to have to do some research on that rod bolt deal. That sounds really interesting. I’d love to see a photo of the break on a set of broken bolts like that to see the nature of the break. The science aspect of it is what I always found to be most fascinating as a drag racing fan.
Bolts torqued and sitting on a shelf are at the lowest load that they will ever see. I don't see how this will cause a failure nor that running an engine ( adding load ) will alleviate them sitting static. I wonder how often Steve has torque wrenches checked for calibration. This also brings up the question on if he uses torque or bolt stretch when tightening the rod bolts.
@@bobroberts2371 I have seen bolt heads in injection moulds snap off while they were just sitting on a bench. They were zinc coated and caused hydrogen embrittlement and under tension snapped.
@@WilliamPayneNZ They kind of breakage you were a function of an improperly manufactured bolt not that they were tightened and not put into use. I doubt that the rod makers are also making the bolts. I'd be pushing the question to ARP or similar. Given the supply chain issues, I'm betting heat treat / material is an issue.
sliding on the asphalt is easier with a piece of plastic from one side of an IBC liquid tote. They are about 3/16" thick and slide good on asphalt, road base, ... and keep you clean. If you set the trans on it, you can slide it around without scratching it up. It is like a flat creeper.
That sucks, but kuddos to you for not throwing things. I don't know if I could have the weekend you had and stay as calm and humble as you . Good for you.
Steve; that is a great logical attitude for a bad week end. It shows that is what is takes to run at this level. Thank you ; looking forward to the analysis upon engine dis assembly.
Ran Super Stock back in then 70's early 80's (NHRA) . Had issues with my small block Fords a screaming with RPM's. I couldn't handle the pressure. Love your attitude and upbeat nature with your successes and failures. . You are the "Man" for a reason.
Wow...If luck was shit you would be clean as a whistle...I guess all that comes with a 6 second Caprice wagon...It ran before and it'll run again. I know you won't let up and we'll see that insane wagon defy physics some more...Best of luck!
l'm a VW mechanic in san diego, mostly working on vanagons, when it comes to engine swaps, which l seem to do quite a lot of, l lift them in with a come along, front the top, it's SO much easier than jacking them into place, seeing you guys lifting the transmission onto the jack, and jacking it in, has me thinking about my work days, you have a roll bar, pretty much directly above the transmission, with some kind of webbing strap, so's not to mark the cage, you could easily lift the transmission into place, it'd be an easy one man job, they do say, work smarter, not harder.
I feel the pain and frustration you must have. been there and done it. just keep on trucking you get it lined out and it will be fun once again. Love the content. Just keep on keeping on!
Thanks for the burnout. Some people would have given up back at the shop and you guys thrashed it all the way to the starting line. God Bless you and yours.
Thats a whole bunch of bad luck Steve. Hopefully its all out now. Car sounds like my neighbors ol f150 on start up though with that belt squeelin away😅
Sorry to see and hear your troubles with the wagon. Sort of drives the point to dyno the engines prior to fitting to take way as many of the issues that could arise.
Man, I’m sorry to hear you’re having all this. Bad luck. I know one thing for sure you’ll figure the problem out you’ll get it resolved and you’ll be back out there kicking ass. I admire you keeping positive vibes and not losing your cool. I wish I could say the same about myself, keep the concept coming man you’re killing it. Sorry about your bad luck, but great video
Whew, rough weekend. Things just kinda ganged up on ya. Well, it'll get better, but you could surely use a change of luck. I'll be rootin' for ya. Keep that positive attitude, great things are coming your way.👍👍
Yep shot peen shot used to run the thermal oven and shotblaster at a engine shop had 5 small blocks come back with wiped front cam bearings when i tore them down found the shot on the pan it had fell out from the tiny galley that feeds the front oil pressure port above the number one cam bearing shop owner tried to blame me for it but he was the one who did the final cleaning and assembly and had told me not to pull that galley plug because they get lost to easily 🤷♂️
