7:26 because he believes that the second Kira and the original Kira must've met by now, and Light suddenly started going on random dates with nearly every female at his school. So suspecting that Light was trying to hide a new girl in his life, he had Mr Mogi watching Light and reporting every interaction Light had. Then he had Watari breaking into the homes of every female Light interacted with and collect hair and crumb samples which he is now comparing to those found on the masking used to seal the envelopes that the second Kira mailed the tapes in.
I mean L and Light are not playing symmetrical game, and have different win conditions, it is natural for both to use different methods :) And both use everything they have!
@@mucicafrajer in my opinion hard to say, we can say that if we know what happens in this and future episodes it was not as easy, a lot of chaos/mistakes happened that lead to certain outcomes, and it is easier to judge someone when you know what will be his next mistake... Light's problem is how to push pieces in the right places, L's problem is to unravel all pieces he needs to get Kira. Just as example, saying "just tell Misa/Rem to kill everyone" or "just imprison Light to be sure" is easy out, both are not in Light/L character and do not make interesting story. And in my opinion it is important for good show to make things interesting by including this element of chaos, or 'flaws' in characters that do not allow them to do it the easy way. L with deathnote would just probably kill everyone in task force just to be safe, Light would have no issues with imprisoning his "friend". But it doesnt work in reverse. Also you could say L have it easier because he doesnt have to pretend in front of others as Light does, his game is more... Honest. Thats fun about non-symmetrical situations, it is not clear in my opinion who have it easier... Or if this matters to be honest, show is fun either way :)
I think Light is ok with Rem or Misa killing killing L because in his point of view he is the one manipulating them into killing him, so (in his point of view) he is ultimately the one killing him.
L: uses everything he has like wealth, influence, the police and fbi, uses not so legal tactics against a high school/college kid = fair. Light: uses a shinigami to look for cameras = cheating
@@storieswithstyle lol. Is still a grow man, with so much influence he can opperate almost unchecked going against one kid. Even with magic bs light is still the underdog😂
@@RicardoKoei L is about 23 or 24, Light is 18 here. No "grown man" vs. "a little kid". Spoiled kids always cry "I'm just a kid!" after they did something HORRIBLE... By the way, what L is doing isn't legal, of course. The Police is barely tolerating him, as we can see here (and when he fullfilled Yagami's house with camera and microphone). Light is using DARK MAGIC and DEMONIAC BEINGS to try to win... still don't succeding. Do you really want to put them ON THE SAME LEVEL? Dude...
@@storieswithstyle Let's be honest here, Misa is a famous celebrity if Misa files a case against L imprisoning her without evidence. It would be end for L...
Rem cant kill the task force because L used outsiders to apprehend misa. If they all die now after capturing misa, they’re gonna put two and two together.
Since the early 2000s and all the way until the prevalence of modern touch screen smart phones, Japanese used email text services rather than SMS. That way, one didn't even need to share a number, just their texting email handle, sometimes one could anonymously join groups. In Japan anime, one might wonder how they were texting or having multi people long conversations in the 90s, as they used BBSes while the rest of the world was wondering what a satellite phone was.
5:35 I regard EQ not as a separate form of intelligence but the measure of how well an individual is able to leverage their IQ to a particular end, in this case emotional sympathy etc.
The problem is IQ is defined as a specific set of abilities that are quite different from the EQ. And emotional or social manipulation can be done well even with an below avg. IQ.
I have a hard time believing that given the abundance of self proclaimed high iq individuals I’ve met that are so utterly devoid of empathy or emotional maturity. 🤷♂️
@@R-Chitter I could talk for myself at that point, I've got an really high IQ, but on the EQ side... I'm good at controlling my own emotions, but compared to what I've seen of other people they often seem like toned down by default. I also can't read the emotions of other people, as long as they are not thrown into my face. And I feel really uncomfortable in situations that are highly emotional for other people, cause I don't know what to do or how to act in such situations. And even less how to comfort someone who is highly emotional in such a situation. On the other hand, there are people out there that just instinctly know what to do, how to comfort someone, who are able to read even suppressed emotions etc. who are below even the avg. if it comes to logical thinking or other things that are part of IQ mesurements.
What's coming is the most brilliant move I've seen in all of fiction. Literally everyone who saw it were dumbfounded on how the manga author could even come up with it, and most don't even understand it. (for people who've seen it, it's the "going in a circle")
03:42 - Alas, Misa had so much going for her... All squandered, as is not so uncommon, due to her terrible taste in men :(. 17:39 - Indeed. Why would Light ever bother to "play by the rules"? He just wants to win. He wants to set the rules. 25:29 - It's not easy for people to accept things that are cruel but necessary. For a good reason, I guess... They're usually not far from unnecessary cruelty. 31:20 - There you have it. Contrary to what you've said before: Misa isn't in love with Kira. She's in love with Light. Most people find this bit of this scene relatively unremarkable, but it always makes me emotional... She'd rather die or suffer than lose her affection for Light...
I don't think shinigami are physically bound to the human who takes the book, rather they choose to mostly follow them, but can go anywhere if they wanted
No, they are, Rem could only leave Misa after she already gave up her Death Note. The conversation regarding it between Rem and Misa was a flashback not a back and forth from Misa to Light and back. Rem was just telling Light she had already given it up because Rem knew that's what Light would've wanted them to do.
Actually no,the reason Rem can Just leave is because the death note Misa has is not from Rem,but from the other shinigami that died (Ryuk had two death notes that both are owned by him,so thats why ryuk cant leave and rem can)
@@imbuedsemor I agree with you, I enjoy the next part of the story myself and don't view it as a downward spiral at this point. Honestly I think the story needed to flip the board so to speak, because if it dragged on too long, it might cause issues in continuing to demonstrate L and Light's respective skills while not allowing either of them to gain too much of an upper hand on the other.
I presume Rem is not bound because she has her own book, since the book handed over to Misa was not Rem’s book. (Edit) Btw, I like how you laughed so gleefully when L trolled Light. I imagine it would be even funnier if you had steepled your fingers after like Mr. Burns and go “Yes… yes…” 😂
I think a misconception with misa love for light is ppl believe she’s in love with Kira not light but she actually loves light. When people get power or money there true desires and true selves sometimes come out. Which happens in lights case. Lots what people call it is the true light. This is what the true light thinks of the world. How he feels about people. Everything he does is the real him all because he has the power too. Miss has fallen in love to the real light the one that happen to voice and show his opinion on the world. Which helped her and she agrees with his ideals. She goes by his side and gets close to help him out in any way so he can be his true self. Even if he loose it all bc he is what he is and that’s what kind of person he is. She sticks to his side. Now I don’t want to get into spoilers but she is indeed in love with light probably a lil to much
17:44 "... he's just cheating, all the fucking time..." Based on what rules? There are no rules to this engagement. This is war. Light is willing to go further to win than L is, so he does. Thats 100% fair! Just because L limits himself, and is limited by his lack of information and a magical notebook, that doesn't mean Light is cheating by not limiting himself, and using the advantages he has availableto him. 18:00 "He never faces L on equal playing fields" That, my friend, is the KEY to good strategy. Unlevel the playing field in your favour as much as possible! That what many famous historical strategists have taught time and again, includimg the likes of "Sun Tzu". Even the police, FBI, various intelligence agencies, try to do this all the time. And why should they keep things fair? If lives are on the line, you want every advantage you can get! All you are saying here, is that Light is a better strategist than L is.
@@storieswithstyle well a magic notebook IS real stuff in their world. L just doesnt know it. Also, what's the difference between "magic" and non-"magic"? They both have their rules as to how they operate, and can only be used according to those rules! I mean what's the difference between L using investigative techniques that follow logical rules, or the FBI agents that use guns, a tool that follows logical rules, and Light that uses the death note, another tool that follows logical rules? The only difference is that you are not as familiar with, and dont fully understand the death notes rules, on a fundamental level, so it seems more "magical" and "mystical" to you than a handgun. To the shinigami king who made the death note tho, it doesnt seem magical at all! It's just plain and simple logic to him, that this notebook has the power to kill in the exact way it does, with its exact limitations. So, to me it seems the only thing here that makes this so called "magic", so 'unfair', is the fact that it is information that Light has access to but L doesnt, and L has no way of knowing he even needs to get access to this information. And I would argue, L could also get access to some such information, that Light wouldnt know about.
30:20 that would be doing the same thing that got the other shinigami erased. shinigami cannot use the death note to save humans...i don't think there's any guarantee rem could've gotten more than one or two names before fading, and then what? no one is there to deliver a "message" from misa to light if rem does not exist
I want to push back a little against the idea that Light is cheating (but only a little because I'm also a Ryuzaki stand). While it may seem like Light is depending on non-intellectual advantages to win his fight, there are a couple of considerations to keep in mind: - L is also taking advantage of things that Light doesn't have, the least of which are massive sums of money, a monopoly on the use of force, and the lack of information on his identity. Could it not be said that L is lucky to have as many as 5 investigators willing to throw their lives away to help him? Should he have taken on this challenge without them? I know it's not exactly balanced but I think it's also unfair to say that all the advantages are on Light's side. - it was never about a game of chess or morality for either of them. These are highly goal-oriented individuals. The only reason Light doesn't kill the Innocents is because he thinks (rightly so) that it would hinder him from achieving his ultimate goal: the utopian world. L similarly made use of Lind Taylor and, to an extent, the lives of the FBI agents to pursue Kira. It's difficult to say that either side holds the moral high ground (let's not forget chief Yagami confiscating the tapes at gunpoint). Now of course there is a significance in Light's deliberate and manifest acts of murder as compared to the "crimes" that the detective side committed, so I'm not too hung up here.
That's a weird concept a lot of reactors have, especially around war. Like you're not going to just shoot the enemy. You've got to yell to him "hey I'm over here get ready" and if you outnumber them you're "cheating". The point is to live not to "be fair".
@@russellward4624 Precisely! Is Light's carnage justified? NO. THAT is the bad part about what he is doing. Suppose, however, that dispatching someone was the right thing to do. Would it then be even better to give that person a chance to retaliate against you with lethal force? I don't think so. This intuition ONLY makes sense with handicaps and games/sport. Pitting platinum league against silver league is not fair... But "fair play" has its specific domain.
You are right. I'd like to add that is totaly unreallistic to me that in such strict society as Japan they allow some creep not only to lurk around anonymously but work with police force. Moreover i don't believe that "chess-game" while it is talking about mind-games between to persons is meant to be fair like real Chess at first place. It's all about to be more resoursful and overplay your opponent using all possible tools. And it's never happens that both opponets have the same tools or position at start. We know about Death Note from the beggining. Why ever L lovers people consider it like Cheat?
If this was real life and you were Misa you should consider whatever human rights you have waived. Ain't no way any governing body letting you see the light of day again.
Well, that does not make it right. The issue is not human rights but her ability to literally kill by almost looking at people. So it is more that other peoples human rights are endangered by her.
Just wanted to bring up about Light "cheating" in his defence this is basically his first time doing this, whereas L has had years of experience solving near impossible cases and he has the full cooperation of major organisations around the world, a taskforce and basically near unlimited funds. Light only has himself, the Death Note, Ryuk who is a neutral bystander and now Misa/Rem thrown into the mix. So as great as it'd be for him to do this all alone, realistically he does kind of need the help.
I mean, if you can be socially awkward, you can also be the opposite of that. That's what people mean when they speak of emotional intelligence. An ability to understand others, their feelings, perspective, behavior. It's not related to IQ at all, because there's plenty of socially awkward geniuses. Even if the term "emotional intelligence" is incorrect, the phenomenon that people have in mind when talking about it is certainly real.
@@mitromney Iq is just not a complete test, it measures only some specific types of intelligence, like basic logic, etc. and completely ignores the other ones: Telekinesthetic intelligence, emotional, etc.
Is IQ a measure of a person's learned knowledge, or is it the natural capability of their brain to process knowledge? - I don't understand. If I study really hard, does that increase my IQ? Could I spend my whole life chained in a room with no education, and only know how to speak 3 words, yet have a genius level IQ if born that way?
No, IQ don't "improve" studying. The IQ measuring is the measure of what your LOGICAL CAPACITY are... like, how "powerful" your brain is. Of course, to excell in some camp, you've to study hard, because you were not born with all the knowledge of the World... still, it's like making a race: if you've got a Ferrari, and I've got an utilitarian, well, you've a HUGE advantage of me.
Iq consists of a crystalline and fluid part and most of the time they are similar. Cryst is basically the harddrive and fluid the processor. So fluid tells you how quick you learn, react, problemsolve etc. And the other how much you know. So you can increase crystalline with learning, but depending on fluid you will learn a lot faster. You can not improve fluid intelligence, other than with healthy food (braingrowth) in childhood.
@@storieswithstyle Uhm, that's very interesting! Thank you a lot, I didn't know that. I think I've always considering fluid IQ to be "intelligence", while crystalline IQ to be just "knowledge", in general.
I know you prefer the sub, but I will say the dub for this particular anime is amazing. The sheer aggravation in Light's voice is so entertaining to hear.
What I think is interesting is that Ryuzaki and Light's physical appearances are in direct contrast to the way they operate in society as L and Kira. If L upholds society's rules about justice through law and order, he eschews society's rules on attire, posture, and mannerisms. In contrast, Light appears as the paragon for young men; he's well-dressed and groomed, carries himself well, and interacts with others in a charming way that makes him seem friendly and sociable, and yet as Kira he is trying to enforce a new set of rules on society, to force them to adhere to his will or face the consequences he metes out.
Light upcoming plan is stupid complicated but get ready for a fun ride. You should also give us your feelings/reactions to the openings and ending themes and animations. The 2nd opening animation is one of my favorites in all of anime
People who say Light had one sided advantage should re-watch this episode... This imprisonment (kidnapping) is unpresidented display of power... Mind you he has no evidence whatsoever against Misa to do this.. Honestly Misa should have filed a case against L and made him run for the hills...
