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We loved the Beelink GTR7. This is what happens when we get a PRO version. This version has the AMD Ryzen 9 7940HS 8 core CPU an upgrade to the non-Pro version. We also compare this to the GTR7 and the Minisforum UM790 Pro.
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00:00 Introduction
01:29 External Hardware Overview
07:03 Internal Hardware Overview
10:19 AMD Ryzen 9 7940HS with Radeon 780M Performance
12:17 Power Consumption and Noise
14:04 Key Lessons Learned

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@gabrielpi314
@gabrielpi314 9 месяцев назад
One benefit to the bright colors: For people in the "wonderful" position of remote IT support, being able to tell a non-techie to press the power button on the "BRIGHT ORANGE THING" is a plus. Particularly when it lives around a bunch of black, silver and white devices, probably surrounded with a rats nest of cables.
@dedvzer
@dedvzer 9 месяцев назад
Just make sure they don't clear the CMOS 😂 Though I'm sure you can just unplug it (right?)
@ianwalker1182
@ianwalker1182 9 месяцев назад
Presumably a power cycle will restore CMOS to default, probably with a warning and confirm message. I have not changed by settings for many years, and for experimenters it could be usefull.
@marcogenovesi8570
@marcogenovesi8570 9 месяцев назад
@@dedvzer you can rip the button from inside with pilers
@IraQNid
@IraQNid 9 месяцев назад
@@dedvzer Put a small rigid cover over the clear CMOS button that prevents you from pressing it by accident.
@guyot1979
@guyot1979 9 месяцев назад
Exactly 👍
@arachnotron82
@arachnotron82 9 месяцев назад
that proprietary power connector ruins everything
@ServeTheHomeVideo
@ServeTheHomeVideo 9 месяцев назад
Agree. We called that out specifically.
@post-leftluddite
@post-leftluddite 9 месяцев назад
Not everything
@ChaBawbe
@ChaBawbe 9 месяцев назад
Not really, it's just for power, not a deal breaker
@TweakMDS
@TweakMDS 9 месяцев назад
​@@ChaBawbePower bricks fail frequently. Kind of a deal breaker to not be able to replace them once this company moves on to other things.
@NOKIA5593
@NOKIA5593 9 месяцев назад
@@TweakMDS are you saying this from your own experience?
@TwstedTV
@TwstedTV 9 месяцев назад
For those wondering the price ranges from $1,050 to $1,200 depending on where you buy it.
@ghost-user559
@ghost-user559 9 месяцев назад
Man that’s pricy. So same price point as the Mac Mini M2 Pro with 4 Thunderbolt 4 ports and 10 GB Ethernet. But obviously more freedom on OS choices with this. Huh.
@chebrubin
@chebrubin 9 месяцев назад
@@ghost-user559 It is a real industry GPU. Not this underpowered Apple SOC "GPU" cores.
@MyKharli
@MyKharli 9 месяцев назад
perfectly adequate ones if your not fussed about gaming are a 100
@Penskyc
@Penskyc 9 месяцев назад
Are you talking USD?!? I have yet to see the gtr7 pro for more than $850 with 32gb/1tb, even less if you go barebones.
@ghost-user559
@ghost-user559 9 месяцев назад
@@MyKharli I mean definitely cheap mini PCs exist but a computer is more than graphics. Speed of ports, number of ports. CPU speed.
@drdroop2163
@drdroop2163 9 месяцев назад
They just need to make ITX boards of these systems for us to throw in our own chassis
@VeerMaharaj
@VeerMaharaj 9 месяцев назад
Asrock deskmini ftw. 2x m.2 slots, 2x 2.5" sata drives, socketed desktop processor.
@NPzed
@NPzed 9 месяцев назад
Minisforum is maybe doing one
@noname-xo1bt
@noname-xo1bt 9 месяцев назад
@@NPzed Minisforum needs to do a better job with publishing BIOS updates before I would consider buying another product from them. Nice device, but good luck finding an updated BIOS.
@kidsythe
@kidsythe 9 месяцев назад
I'll ziptie it to my desk
@kidsythe
@kidsythe 9 месяцев назад
​@@VeerMaharajthe perfect product. I love you man thank you.
@antonnym214
@antonnym214 9 месяцев назад
Nice reporting and review. This is a new channel for me and you are already my favorite for hardware. You have a gift for presenting super-interesting stuff. Keep up the good work!
@jallen1227
@jallen1227 9 месяцев назад
Really wish Beelink would provide a barebones option allowing people to buy whatever memory or m.2 / SSD speed or capacity.
@ServeTheHomeVideo
@ServeTheHomeVideo 9 месяцев назад
Very much this
@DR-999
@DR-999 4 месяца назад
Your analysis is the best out there...your vids are so full of relevant info and well constructed format makes them easy to follow and interesting. Outstanding !! Thank you......
@BillLambert
@BillLambert 9 месяцев назад
The proprietary power connector is what 100% kills it for me. I like the rest, but that magnetic plug is truly pointless when a plain old DC barrel would have been just fine.
@brayyy5609
@brayyy5609 8 месяцев назад
Why is that such a big deal to people? The PC is stationed at an area on your desk. Are you constantly unplugging and replugging? I dont understand how this is a deal breaker, as it has nothing to do with performance or power.
@jeevejavari8461
@jeevejavari8461 8 месяцев назад
​@@brayyy5609I'm guessing people are fussed about the part failing. The reason being that if it fails getting a new power adapter will be a pain. Or maybe beelink goes under and there's no alternatives for another part. I get the concern but Personally it wouldn't be a deal breaker for me. If I'm not mistaken the device also supports USB c power delivery
@GadgetyMV
@GadgetyMV 9 месяцев назад
Great that you test and show the noise levels.
@chiragshroff610
@chiragshroff610 9 месяцев назад
Perfect Mini PC for the Proxmox Cluster i was thinking but proprietary power connector ruins everything
@carltone
@carltone 9 месяцев назад
You might be able bypass this proprietary connector and add your own. I know it’s a hack but a plausible work around if the original PS or connector fail.
@notreal5311
@notreal5311 9 месяцев назад
you can run it off thunderbolt
@agadiyar
@agadiyar 9 месяцев назад
Doesn’t it also work off the USB-C power delivery port? I think he mentions it around the 13.30 mark
@user-qd9pg8xt2k
@user-qd9pg8xt2k 9 месяцев назад
I also think it ruins it. My thought was one or two of these for a home lab would be cool, but that power connection. That kind of ruins having a common supply for multiple systems. mITX boards... That might be cool if you could stack them like a pi cluster.
@codyrap95
@codyrap95 9 месяцев назад
Just power it via USB-C if you are not ok with the proprietary connector
@Cryptolorian
@Cryptolorian 9 месяцев назад
Add some proper 90mm fans or something and I'm in, those tiny fans are just too risky for me to even give these units a go. They should do a taller version where they have a 120mm fan in-taking air from the bottom which should great for cooling and be super silent!
@phillyguy8541
@phillyguy8541 9 месяцев назад
I'm glad you did kind of a comparison with the minisforum um790. I have been trying to decide which of the 2 I want and I think it's clear now that it's the gtr7 pro.
@diotitus
@diotitus 3 месяца назад
Thanks for this! I think you literally just sold me on the Windows Mini PC concept. I really love the fact that these Mini PCs can now literally rival full blown traditional tower desktop and that I can turn one into essentially a full on Windows gaming desktop just by connecting it to an eGPU.
@techluvin7691
@techluvin7691 3 месяца назад
Don’t drink the kool-aid. They’re not anywhere as fast as a desktop with dedicated graphics for gaming. That’s just pure BS.
@DumbAss-jm3lv
@DumbAss-jm3lv 2 месяца назад
@@techluvin7691​​⁠​⁠​⁠add an egpu, and it could basically have the same performance as a tower desktop
@fk319fk
@fk319fk 9 месяцев назад
My son and daughter each bought one. They are very happy with them, aka they do not bother me about slow computers anymore.
@CIS101
@CIS101 7 месяцев назад
These look really great ! I was shopping for a mini-PC last year which included this brand. I ended up getting a refurbished HP EliteDesk 800 G3. Those types have a modular port option, and with this re-furb that happened to be occupied by a VGA port. So that allowed me to connect 3 cheap monitors without a docking station nor adapters etc. So that worked out great, and so did the price at $600. Maybe my next one will be from the brand in this video.
@13BulliTs
@13BulliTs 3 месяца назад
Nice I have got HP 800 G2 for € 257,- a week ago and paid an extra € 100,- for upgraded video card to watch 4k
@TehFreek
@TehFreek 9 месяцев назад
I just *cannot* take seriously any mini-system that has an exposed "Clear CMOS" button. I don't care if there are workarounds for powering on the system, one day someone *is* going to unnecessarily press that button, either accidentally or deliberately.
@ServeTheHomeVideo
@ServeTheHomeVideo 9 месяцев назад
Totally agree with this
@MartinVonReichenberg
@MartinVonReichenberg 9 месяцев назад
Doesn't need to be held in order to activate?
@WilliamOwyong
@WilliamOwyong 9 месяцев назад
I think I'd be disabling/disconnecting that button straight away if I got one... Especially if it becomes a PC for the kids
@daveme3582
@daveme3582 9 месяцев назад
Same thing I thought when first seeing such a silly feature on something not marketed to a lab or the sort @@WilliamOwyong
@ahilker1
@ahilker1 9 месяцев назад
Although a dumb design, I don't think anyone here commenting about the rubber "clear cmos" button knows how easy it is to remove (it just pops right out). Then the micro switch has to be actuated like we're all used to - by inserting an implement of some sort.
@Enigma8750
@Enigma8750 4 месяца назад
Really good review. I agree about the proprietary magnetic ZIF power port however the save is that you can power it also with the USB port on the back. I remember when these systems came out and the performance was laughable. Now they are putting performance that most desktops don't have with half the power consumption. Thumbs up STH.
@jollojakar8995
@jollojakar8995 9 месяцев назад
UM790 Pro has liquid metal and good cooling. Easy to close any performance gap with a bit of O/C. I would be more swayed by the power connector. Either way, very similar products, can't go wrong.
@BoraHorzaGobuchul
@BoraHorzaGobuchul 5 месяцев назад
Liquid metal is not something I want in my PC for sure.
@spx2327
@spx2327 9 месяцев назад
Regarding the thermal pads for the NVMe SSD's, if I am not mistaken, only the SSD controller benefits from cooling to prevent throttling. NAND chips actually perform better with higher temperatures (to a certain degree needless to say).
@deimosian
@deimosian 9 месяцев назад
There's not much heatsink so depending on the temperature deltas it's entirely possible it may heat, not cool, the NAND packages. Just like how an idle CPU can get heated by a stressed GPU if they're sharing coolant.
@gherbent
@gherbent 6 месяцев назад
Out of all mini PCs I recommend the Beelink brand to my friends as I find their build quality way above others. Sturdy, reliable, well engineered.
@thebrownlizard3988
@thebrownlizard3988 Месяц назад
amazing review !!!! btw i randomly found someone using ur video and put music on it and a logo to hide it ,
@TrusteftTech
@TrusteftTech 6 месяцев назад
That orange one is so beautiful! I kid you not if I had money I would order one right now. Or two.
@JMartinni
@JMartinni 9 месяцев назад
The SSD cooling solution is fine. The controller is what heats up and needs cooling the most. This way there's also no chance to trap heat and transfer it from the controller to the NAND chips.
@lumibraulius
@lumibraulius 9 месяцев назад
Between the "Clear CMOS" button in a place that makes no sense whatsoever and again with the proprietary power connector, it's out....NEXT
@Maisonier
@Maisonier 9 месяцев назад
Amazing device, I'd love that with 10gbe and IPMI instead of two 2,5gbe lan ports.
@blackterminal
@blackterminal 9 месяцев назад
I am using a Intel Nuc that used to be used for business transactions in my Fathers hotel now it lives a new life as a tv pc. Thanks Dad. Its a handy form factor.
@ewenchan1239
@ewenchan1239 9 месяцев назад
I run a Beelink GTR5 5900HX for my TV as well and that thing is absolutely SMOKING fast. In fact, there is so much excess processing capacity, that I have started to get the system to take on some of the virtualisation duties as well by running a backup Plex Media Server (in case my main server is too busy doing other stuff), as well as hosting our own, local, Minecraft server. I LOVE the Beelink systems. They're cheaper than the Morefine mini PCs, and they are more performant than the Minisforum mini PCs. Great job, Beelink! (Good to know that USB 4 power delivery works though, so that way, we don't HAVE to use the proprietary AC adapter.)
@danielgriffith8911
@danielgriffith8911 Месяц назад
keep your eye on Minisforum.. some have Occulink now
@knofi7052
@knofi7052 9 месяцев назад
Thanks for the review, Patrick! Is the Bios complete and unlocked?
@nielsdebakker3283
@nielsdebakker3283 9 месяцев назад
The um790pro with memory cooling and better heat pads for the nvme drives get my vote. Ideal would be a mix, chassis(ports) gtr pro, wifi and memory/drive cooling um790pro. And of course a normal feed plug.
@_GarethRossUK
@_GarethRossUK 9 месяцев назад
the new baseplate with cooling vents drop memory and ssd temps by 14*c
@mikebal7777
@mikebal7777 19 дней назад
I just wish external GPU enclosures would get standardized so I could run one of these as my main PC
@protip123
@protip123 9 месяцев назад
my favorite seventh generation professional grade gran turismo racing personal computing device.
@bastian433
@bastian433 9 месяцев назад
Still happy with my SER6 Pro, it at least uses a normal adapter. it's not as fast as this but fast enough, and sure was a lot cheaper. More people should tell Beelink to quit using the nasty non-standard connector.
@JasonsLabVideos
@JasonsLabVideos 9 месяцев назад
Thank you Patrick, this was a wicked review ! DO these have Legacy bios ? or just UEFI ?
@chuckthetekkie
@chuckthetekkie 9 месяцев назад
My mom would absolutely love that orange PC as it's her favorite color. If I had the money I would probably get it to replace her current Windows 10 PC a 2014 Mac Mini.
@Billblom
@Billblom 9 месяцев назад
I looked at the reviews of the Minisforum and Beelink.. Both are impressive, but that CMOS clear button and pain in reassembly are great reasons for avoiding the Beelink. Performance on the Minissforum is well beyond decent. I have not managed to get any noise audible from 4 feet away. The power adapter is somewhat problematic since getting parts out of the far east if the adapter fails is a serious problem.. I *really* like the beelink pro's dual ethernet ports.. If they put the cmos reset on the back and recessed I would be happy with either box. Mine is on and powered up for up to 14 hours a day, and never gets hot...
@BoraHorzaGobuchul
@BoraHorzaGobuchul 5 месяцев назад
Wonder if: - one can easily reversibly disconnect the clear CMOS button from the mobo - install ssds with heatsinks - will they even fit?
@marksawesomeadventures
@marksawesomeadventures 4 месяца назад
I really liked this Review, I'm all excited about this one, because it's perfect to throw in my Back Pack and use the Hotel TV as a Monitor as I travel the World. 😁 I feel like I would throw the whole White Plastic Divider plate with the Fan out, and just make my own Turbo Fan with a Screen Grid for the whole Top Cover, (I'm not going to be sitting my Coffee on top of it or anything) 😁
@pmusic6414
@pmusic6414 8 месяцев назад
Thanks for the review. Do you have a recommendation for a fanless mini PC?
@pcmicrodude
@pcmicrodude 9 дней назад
Nice review! Where can I find one of your ratcheting screwdrivers?
@hocksengphua7768
@hocksengphua7768 8 дней назад
Yup, agreed on 2 points. 1. The clear cmos button should not be at the front face. 2. Beelink should scrap away the nonsense proprietary power connector.
@MegaMastiffman
@MegaMastiffman 9 месяцев назад
It completely blows my mind! That these manufacturers don’t hire an interpreter and then call oh I don’t know maybe YOU!!! And get a clue on there most profitable market!! So dumb really. Makes me want to buy up BeeLink and just take it to the next level. Great job man love the videos thank you.
@andrewharwood7843
@andrewharwood7843 9 месяцев назад
Just as a heads up. I have the non pro version and you can use the fingerprint reader as a power button. That way you never risk pressing the clear cmos. Also still wiating on full driver support from AMD. I and many others still having GPU related issues that I am parying will be resolved in software.
@_GarethRossUK
@_GarethRossUK 9 месяцев назад
how do you enable the fingerprint power button also does it save the scan until windows asks for it and passes it and log you in?
@andrewharwood7843
@andrewharwood7843 9 месяцев назад
@@_GarethRossUK It just worked out of the box as a power button when pressed. I haven't used the sensor for it's intended purpose so can't comment on if anything is cached for logon. I'm waiting on full AMD support when I can use a complete clean install to do my full investigation about the viability of these in production.
@_GarethRossUK
@_GarethRossUK 9 месяцев назад
thanks i had no idea, learning something new every day :D @@andrewharwood7843
@MiniArts159
@MiniArts159 9 месяцев назад
The fact these things outclass an Intel 12900 (non-KS/K) is really understated.
@threadripper979
@threadripper979 9 месяцев назад
It's funny how the LTT screwdrivers are a flex. OK, OK, I admit I have one, too. 🤣
@Bob_Smith19
@Bob_Smith19 9 месяцев назад
It’s a quick way to tell you have more money than brains.
@threadripper979
@threadripper979 9 месяцев назад
Maybe, but it's the ONLY screwdriver that I've ever had that has the ratchet turn the right way. I happily paid for that feature.@@Bob_Smith19
@ahilker1
@ahilker1 9 месяцев назад
Although a silly design inclusion, almost every reviewer has complained about the "clear cmos" button when it's really a non-issue. It's more difficult to remove the bottom plate then it is to remove the rubber button that pushes the switch. Then you can simply insert a cotton swab or whatever if you need to reset it.
@geekinasuit8333
@geekinasuit8333 9 месяцев назад
I know these are listed as "gaming" boxes, but for me it would be really nice if there was a company making these with IPMI so they can be run headless and remotely controlled, and also it would be fantastic if the chassis was design so that a dust filter can be affixed. I use a minipc (it's not beelink) for controlling dual fibre lines in my home/office/lab, it works really well (5 eth ports, 64Gb ram + 2TB store). I run several dozen lxc containers on it controlling various things such as redundant DNS, email for notifications, and much more. As for Beelink, one issue I have with their products is there's seemingly no option to max out RAM and storage when placing an order, the option is not even available for the "pro" version, too bad and I don;t get why since we're talking about only a few $ for saving a lot of hassles upgrading.
@ServeTheHomeVideo
@ServeTheHomeVideo 9 месяцев назад
I agree, that is why I mentioned they need a barebones. The IPMI is a bit tougher because it adds another 4-5W of power consumption with an ASPEED AST2600 and all of the other components.
@geekinasuit8333
@geekinasuit8333 9 месяцев назад
@@ServeTheHomeVideo I'll happily pay more for the extra features, but maybe there's not enough of a market to make it worth while. I'm wondering if there are separate mini remote control boxes that you can buy that will do remote KVM and power cycles? I suppose if an extra box is needed, an ASRock server mobo and chassis is the better option unless space is very tight. Anyway, I like the work you are doing it's always informative and much appreciated.
@phoneaccount6907
@phoneaccount6907 4 месяца назад
Why do you need all of these, kid? Are you making $ from it, or just waste your time ...
@geekinasuit8333
@geekinasuit8333 4 месяца назад
I own a business, I use these devices for development purposes, and running live services. I rent several cloud servers to run SaaS services for customers, the home based servers and mini's are for developmentand use, and also for my general networking and computing needs. I have a full blown server at home with IPMI, but it's not for development use and is expected to always be stable and working. For development, I need remote access when something goes wrong and I have to reset while away. I could buy another server with IPMI, howerver space is limited, the mini's are great space savers, cost less, make less noise, less heat, and get the job done. I bought a wifi power switch to hard reset each development mini, it works OK, except not as good as IPMI for diagosing issues remotely or adjusting bios settings Everyone has their own unique reasons why they buy these products. I use one mini when away for extended time, it's better for my needs than a laptop, although I also have a laptop, it depends on the situation which device I'll use.
@FrenziedManbeast
@FrenziedManbeast 9 месяцев назад
Great video - these are some handsome looking NUCs! I still struggle to place the Philosophy of Use for these devices. They are extraordinarily expensive, lack pcie connectivity that better priced and maintainable form factors such as mATX offer, and feature proprietary parts making future maintenance almost impossible *when* something goes wrong. To be certain it's a whole lot of compute in a small form factor, but who out there needs this kind of horsepower without onboard pcie connectivity that a standard form factor provides? The SFF (and smaller) devices are probably still best served as ultra-affordable and low-compute solutions for simple end users. Power users seem almost certainly better served doing it themselves in a way that offers better connectivity, similar compute, and standardized parts for better future upgradeability/maintenance.
@WayneReynolds.
@WayneReynolds. 9 месяцев назад
This is exactly my thought process whenever I see these cool mini pcs .. yes they're small ... But they're basically laptops in the form of a desktop and they come with similar maintenance and upgrade handicaps .. I've had friends obsessed with this tiny pcs and when i explained everything in detail vs an ATX system they've just gone ATX with a reasonably smaller case ... So I guess the appeal is the form factor
@TheBackyardChemist
@TheBackyardChemist 9 месяцев назад
The first use case I can think of is traveling, especially as a mobile workstation. You can plug this into any hotel TV, and this is more powerful CPU/RAM-wise than almost any laptop, and a lot of things that would need a PCI-E slot (10G/25G NICs, capture cards, etc.) can be connected via Thunderbolt/USB4. With two internal PCI-E 4 SSDs you can load it with 16 TB of high speed storage.
@FrenziedManbeast
@FrenziedManbeast 9 месяцев назад
@@TheBackyardChemist Who's actually choosing this over a laptop? Who's living out of hotel rooms needing gobs of compute? If they are in media they have workstation laptops with equivalent specs, as nothing in this mini-PC is out of reach of real mobile workstations. And you need a laptop for actual mobile computer versus dragging around a jackery + monitor + keyboard + mouse + mini PC lol. Regarding high speed USB-connectivity: historically running loads sustained for long periods of time over USB controllers has led to unfortunate early demise of said controllers. However I admittedly do not know how well that conveys to USB 4 controllers, and can't recall seeing anyone report on it. I know the spec allows PCIe tunnelling, but not if the same durability of PCIe bandwidth/cards comes along with that.
@TheBackyardChemist
@TheBackyardChemist 9 месяцев назад
@@FrenziedManbeast I think this will absolutely smoke any laptop under 1500-2000 USD in CPU performance, and is smaller than almost all ITX builds. I can see this as a game console replacement for someone who moves a lot. Maybe truckers, sailors, fuck if I know. Or for people who live in really small apartments in Hong Kong or something.
@FrenziedManbeast
@FrenziedManbeast 9 месяцев назад
@@TheBackyardChemist Right, and the entire point I made is a laptop is a mobile computing solution while this is not. It's definitely more compute per dollar, but without the maintenance, expandability, PCIe connectivity, or upgradeability that a standard form factor uses. Now if that suits a user's niche case then great! But this company has spent untold thousands likely bringing this thing to market, and I don't expect they'll move many units at $800+ a pop considering the market saturation when paired with the extremely niche nature of borderline hedt compute in a 1L format.
@shaolindreams
@shaolindreams 3 месяца назад
I do like the teal green one it would match my office nicely. I used to have a bright orange ACER predator monitor... the orange one would go perfectly :D I think with a couple little mods, custom cooling with a noctua fan and a high spec nvme, you're cooking.
@jztpnt
@jztpnt 9 месяцев назад
Using this as two node virtualization cluster with asus flashstor makes a perfect match
@keeperofthegood
@keeperofthegood 9 месяцев назад
I like simple SBC systems for their simplicity of application :) When it comes to "mini" PC's I like their potential to fill a need, but don't know how maintainable they may be (what do you do in 18 months when the magic smoke comes out of the power brick, will they still have these, will third party offer them, will you be resorting to a power drill a barrel connector and crafty modification). But then, the need would include disaster recovery, students in dorms, field research stations which would not be real long term uses. Dunno, will discuss this with my daughter, she is looking for a small system right now and this does appear better than the competition.
@marcogenovesi8570
@marcogenovesi8570 9 месяцев назад
If the PSU dies just cut the existing cord so you can reuse the same connector and solder the cables (either to a female barrel connector or directly to a new laptop PSU with similar specs, 19-ish V and 6A).
@zxcvb_bvcxz
@zxcvb_bvcxz 9 месяцев назад
@@marcogenovesi8570 "just" asking people to solder things is a pretty high bar
@marcogenovesi8570
@marcogenovesi8570 9 месяцев назад
@@zxcvb_bvcxz Context: I'm answering someone that proposed power drilling the case and doing internal solder work to install a barrel plug, so he is capable of basic soldering. For people that can't solder there are also perfectly good non-solder connectors like Wago (lever nuts) or twist nuts, and also terminal blocks. They are all available anywhere and cost a few bucks
@Alpha8713
@Alpha8713 5 месяцев назад
@@zxcvb_bvcxz Electrical tape and/or wire nuts would work well enough. Just need to get the polarity right.
@megabaneen8057
@megabaneen8057 9 месяцев назад
Great video. Love you vids. Love how they have a usb A 3.2 in the front USB 2 what a let down. Wifi 6 not E let down. Can the wifi card be upgraded?
@peffken8834
@peffken8834 8 месяцев назад
Thx for the discription. I miss some impressions and experiences how well the system does in practice, like gaming, video editing, graphics, or a Cinebench.
@gbinman
@gbinman 9 месяцев назад
I bought a Beelink SER6 Pro in May. I intended to use it with 2 monitors. The Display Port is not functional. I was able to use the HDMI for one monitor and the USB C for the second monitor. I emailed support. After several rounds of emails, I still don't think they understood what was wrong. The emails were very polite and prompt. This is a simple thing but apparently their support people know nothing about their product. The last contact was they were going to ask someone. I haven't heard anything since. During this time I got everything I needed setup and tweaked. Now I would rather keep the defective unit than start over. My takeaway is don't buy one and expect anything useful from support.
@brianfoster7064
@brianfoster7064 5 месяцев назад
The propriety power supply isn't a problem. They provide instructions on how to set up the USB-C as power input on the site... If you want to use USB4 port(PD3.0 100W) for power supply, please set the TDP to 54W in your BIOS settings and use a PD charger which supports 20V voltage and maximum OCP of 6.32A. Please be sure to connect 120W power adapter to DC port for power supply if you set the TDP to 65W.
@BeardedGeezer
@BeardedGeezer 4 месяца назад
I ordered one to use as a home theater PC for one reason: it outputs 5.1 surround through the HDMI jacks. The minisforum unit only allows for stereo through HDMI.
@brokeelectrician1463
@brokeelectrician1463 9 месяцев назад
Bought the GTR7 pro after watching your video on the GTR7. I've have the unit now for about 6 weeks. You should add an edit to this video because unfortunately this mini pc will now run more than 1 monitor without crashing. I've been dealing with customer support since I took delivery of this thing and like you stated it's very bad. All they can tell me is to wait for an update to the amd 680m gpu. I've updated to the latest driver (7-20-23) and it still goes into a reboot cycle everytime I add a second monitor. I love the computer and all that it promises but this has been one of the worst experiences with a new computer I've ever had. Had I known I would be dealing with connectivity issues, a sketchy mega link for a fresh copy of win11 pro and a cpu gpu combo that is so new that some of the features don't work properly I probably would have went with something else. Has anyone else been dealing with this?
@s3lfdstrukt317
@s3lfdstrukt317 9 месяцев назад
Yep. Me and a friend having the same issue. Using more than one monitor will result on constant crashes and freezes. These things are garbage. Check their own support forums for the real story about these.
@brokeelectrician1463
@brokeelectrician1463 9 месяцев назад
@@s3lfdstrukt317 Thanks for the reply. Can you link the support forum here? I feel like this should be talked about on the review. Patrick even points out in the review that it can run up to 4 monitors but as you and I know this thing fails miserably with 2 connected. He loses creditability with me when things like this are a known issue but not mentioned.
@gigabit9823
@gigabit9823 8 месяцев назад
I got the UM780 Pro and it's the same nightmare. Returning that turd back to Amazon.
@mr.needmoremhz4148
@mr.needmoremhz4148 5 месяцев назад
Sorry if this is a very late reply and hope it got solved. I initially encountered it myself. The Reboot cycle (with or without a second monitor) has to do with the power consumption/save setting of the CPU and hardware itself. In BIOS/UEFI, if you disable everything regarding C/P states and power saving/ control settings and the "suspend to RAM" option (this is a security issue anyway), I think I also disabled the ACPI feature entirely. The reboot/freeze issue was solved for me, I had a reboot or freeze 0.5 -2 min into the OS if I even got there, and I received my devices back in early June (btw I use multiple monitors). You can probably tinker with those setting to find out which ones are causing it or get an update UEFI/BIOS, or a replacement from them by now. I haven't really looked into it. This problem isn't or wasn't unique to Beelink and I think (not sure) the hardware or specific component firmware got a small update by now. I'm not a Windows user, so this is on a hardware level and should resolve the issue. But because the OS itself can cause various issues in how it controls hardware or requires certain (obscured) power settings to be enabled to function properly, I'm mentioning it. I'm also not sure how this works for MS Win with hardware security (standard secure boot, etc.) parameters (potentially) enforced. Or if the settings provide (full) compatibility/ functionality with x version of Windows and other software on top of it 😉
@herlegz6969
@herlegz6969 9 месяцев назад
Beelink GTR7 Pro us absolutely fanfuckingtastic. Just needs a Linux driver for the finger print reader which is mind blowingly fast. More colors for a total rainbow stack cluster mini singularity would be perfect
@DailyCorvid
@DailyCorvid 9 месяцев назад
Yep can confirm the Beelink Mini PC's are awesome.
@flickerblip9044
@flickerblip9044 9 месяцев назад
That new mag power adapter is coming up through non-PC channels. I have some hyper -power led flashlights with the same high current mag-based chargers .
@jacobsoby3910
@jacobsoby3910 3 месяца назад
USBC power is possible but according to their website.: If you want to use USB4 port(PD3.0 100W) for power supply, please set the TDP to 54W in your BIOS settings and use a PD charger which supports 20V voltage and maximum OCP of 6.32A. Please be sure to connect 120W power adapter to DC port for power supply if you set the TDP to 65W.
@JCDenton205
@JCDenton205 9 месяцев назад
another long awaited retrospective to watch lets go
@GoingtoHecq
@GoingtoHecq 9 месяцев назад
That secured DC port on the bottom is awesome because it can protect the fragile barrel connector. It would be better if it could take a standard plug, but overall I definitely prefer it to a standard barrel connector.
@astrahcat1212
@astrahcat1212 7 месяцев назад
I'm in love with the mini computer trend.
@supervan5597
@supervan5597 9 месяцев назад
do you think we change replace the fan with a noctua one for ultra quiet workflow??
@jpallen
@jpallen 6 месяцев назад
Thanks for the review. Curious, would your recommend it for heavy video editing and picture editing, how does it compare to the Mac Studio?
@ServeTheHomeVideo
@ServeTheHomeVideo 6 месяцев назад
Depends on the CODEC. If you are doing Apple ProRes, then the Mac is better. If you are using AV1, then this will be better. I have the M1 Ultra Studio and it goes largely unused at this point.
@ytuser2093
@ytuser2093 15 дней назад
😊 great vid 👍
@rosswitte
@rosswitte 9 месяцев назад
Excellent video. If I may ask, what do you use a living room PC for? I feel like I might be missing out on something fun and convenient. Thank you.
@ServeTheHomeVideo
@ServeTheHomeVideo 9 месяцев назад
It is used as a home PC. Also, when my wife and I need to look at things (e.g. paint colors for the house) it is easy to get it up on a big screen. If I had time to play games, it might be that as well.
@michaelernst3731
@michaelernst3731 9 месяцев назад
Those Green and Orange cases look knida nice.
@Rood67
@Rood67 9 месяцев назад
I bought my sister-in-law and nephew Beelink SER units through my Amazon Prime during prime days - I’m extremely surprised how well they run. I’ve been looking at getting a beefier unit for myself since setting their units up. This GTR Pro may be my choice for the living room. And although work is tied to the hip with Dell; I may try to see if I cannot replace my aging laptop with one of these. Then the few times I have to go to the office, I have a machine that destroys the current laptop specs and still will fit in my backpack.
@waidaracabudu1827
@waidaracabudu1827 9 месяцев назад
That green one looks so snazzy. I want it
@ChickensAndGardening
@ChickensAndGardening 8 месяцев назад
Thanks for this. I wonder if it can handle Debian Linux or similar, in addition to Win10 which I assume it does by default.
@mrbutts2597
@mrbutts2597 9 месяцев назад
Would this be an upgrade for video editing in premiere if I currently have a amd 3700x cpu? Looking for a significant increase in performance in a small package
@luukkuwet
@luukkuwet 9 месяцев назад
You should include more virtualisation, how much it costs with those units, how much electricity it consumes per mips or flops etc. Even those tiny boxes are powerful enough for Windows and VirtualBox or using Proxmox to run that Windows and Linux home automation or video server. If it is easy enough, people (meaning the masses) will figure it out and start to use it.
@ScreamCheese13
@ScreamCheese13 9 месяцев назад
The NIC's included in these devices have compatibility issues with virtualization platforms like ESXi, Proxmox, and KVM. You either have to figure out how to bake drivers into the installer or use USB based NIC ports.
@luukkuwet
@luukkuwet 9 месяцев назад
@@ScreamCheese13 Been there and used Fedora cause it was the only one to support that specific controller. And we wanted to use an rpm-based distro.
@jcarman
@jcarman 9 месяцев назад
​@@ScreamCheese13 - these are using i225-v. In Proxmox 8, I believe they should be ok, though I haven't actually passed through any of them yet. Maybe that's where the issues are.
@Fitchett2012
@Fitchett2012 Месяц назад
I appreciate y’all‘s videos… Can y’all recommend a mini PC that will accept a secondary 3.5”drive, in addition to an SSD or M.2 boot drive?
@IncredibleMeep
@IncredibleMeep 9 месяцев назад
I currently use an ace magician am06 mini pc. it has 32 GB ram 3200mhz with ryzen 7 5800u. it can actually play triple A games.
@hillcrestvideoprod1
@hillcrestvideoprod1 3 месяца назад
I am trying to put an inexpensive/effective computer to run OBS live streaming for a history museum…any thoughts? Also could use the same inexpensive unit to run scanners and Photoshop for image repairs. What are the drawbacks of using these units for these purposes? I use computers, but don’t fully understand the workings to be honest.
@john2001plus
@john2001plus 9 месяцев назад
I don't see a price, but I assume that the difference in cost will push me to buy the cheaper Minisforum. It is my understanding that I could tune the settings on the Minisforum to get a little more performance.
@Douglas_Blake_579
@Douglas_Blake_579 9 месяцев назад
Wow, that's amazing ... every day I see "The best mini PC" ... and every day they're different.
@StevenMelikean
@StevenMelikean 6 месяцев назад
I just bought this today and I have a question about the back removable plate, i.e., did I hear you right regarding Beelink has REPLACED THE EXISTING BACK COVER WITH ONE THAT IS PERFORATED NEAR THE FAN TO IMPROVE AIR FLOW, whereby noise and temperatures are further reduced? Or, did you ask Beelink to provide you with a special cover to address the noise and heat issues? If you or someone else can answer this question, I would be very appreciative. By the way, great review!
@JamieStuff
@JamieStuff 9 месяцев назад
Proprietary power connectors mean a hard pass for me.
@ServeTheHomeVideo
@ServeTheHomeVideo 9 месяцев назад
That is why we called it out specifically in the review.
@DavidM2002
@DavidM2002 9 месяцев назад
That and the CLR CMOS button do it for me too.
@NPzed
@NPzed 9 месяцев назад
​@@ServeTheHomeVideothank you! And please continue to call out mfg that do the proprietary connector
@Anhedonis
@Anhedonis 9 месяцев назад
It’s not a deal breaker for me, since if it fails I can fall back to USB-C.
@user-lv8gl5yb6j
@user-lv8gl5yb6j 8 месяцев назад
Rocking 2 TB 990 Samsung Drives and 96 GB DDR5 RAM (2 x 48 GB). Works great with Proxmox 8
@generalbystander1631
@generalbystander1631 9 месяцев назад
Thanks for the excellent review! I’d like to hear your thoughts regarding service and support, especially wrt firmware dev. Also, Who is beelink anyway? With this device will all of our data be exfiltrated to Chinese servers?
@dkaustin98
@dkaustin98 9 месяцев назад
I have an older BeeLink. It came with a bracket that can so it can be mounted to the back of my monitor so as not take up any desk space. I am using it in this method. Is this still an option with the new BeeLink models?
@squalazzo
@squalazzo 9 месяцев назад
do you have a video or link on that power monitoring case? thanks
@fk_tech
@fk_tech 9 месяцев назад
connector gets loose when moving the device or lifting it up while it is own. The magnet stays attached but power is dropped causing it to power down.
@nathangilmour1460
@nathangilmour1460 9 месяцев назад
Random question - where could I buy the black and blue screwdriver that you have on the shelf over your right shoulder in the background? Awesome video as always thanks for the insights. I think this device made the top of my list when I retire my main custom desktop and go to a mini pc.
@ServeTheHomeVideo
@ServeTheHomeVideo 9 месяцев назад
I am not sure it is for sale. That is the LTT Creator Edition screwdriver
@nathangilmour1460
@nathangilmour1460 9 месяцев назад
Ahh, thank you so much for the response!@@ServeTheHomeVideo
@Tempo_Gigante
@Tempo_Gigante 8 месяцев назад
Love the 10G+ USB ports.
@brucebuzalski1922
@brucebuzalski1922 8 месяцев назад
One of the problems I've been having with all the new technology is that the Logitech unifying adapters aren't working. Do these devices support the unifying adapter in the usb a adapter.? I have so many devices from logitech that I can't use in my new systems/
@heirtothethrone000
@heirtothethrone000 9 месяцев назад
Have you gotten a hold of the MinisForum HN2673 with the Arc graphics yet.
@BobHannent
@BobHannent 9 месяцев назад
I wouldn't object to a DC coaxial jack socket on the bottom of the unit, but that proprietary magnetic one isn't getting my love. I'm starting to go off USB-C PD for laptops, it's a great idea but I've broken one on one laptop and another is suffering. It's not a mechanically robust connector, and they're not being made easily replaceable.
@WeFixChannel
@WeFixChannel 7 месяцев назад
Hi would this be any good for 3D autocad? have the dell xps 15 9500 currently for CAD and struggles. Looking to upgrade to a mini pc that would out proform my laptop. Any help would be very much appreciated. Thanks Brian
@JapChinLuvr
@JapChinLuvr 9 месяцев назад
The CMOS clear button bothers me. I wonder if it could be disconnected inside, and only reconnected if actually needed? I might think about getting 4 tiny pieces of plastic and super-glue them to make a little box around the button so that it's available if you really need to use it, but the box would make accidental activation unlikely.
@tonycheung1559
@tonycheung1559 9 месяцев назад
They still not fixed the bottom? There is a fan but no holes to exhaust the air.
@kansax8253
@kansax8253 9 месяцев назад
Did you check out the power phases and how hot the VRMs get? That's a big issue with motherboards, especially ones from AliExpress.
@eluthriastarise1770
@eluthriastarise1770 9 месяцев назад
Be great if supply could meet demand. Ready to go all in on PRO but no availability in my region, what a shame.
@sidejike438
@sidejike438 9 месяцев назад
@ServeTheHomeVideo can an external GPU be used with this?
@DW-xt6nt
@DW-xt6nt 9 месяцев назад
Nice one ok in itself, I wish for 16 core 7945HX for use with eGPU, extra USB 4 40G port, 2HDMI's 2.1, omit one Lan and DP, all USB A ports to be 10gig 3.2, then we would be cooking!
@munocat
@munocat 9 месяцев назад
I have the 6900HX beeline GTR6, and it is great at playing 75 FPS, warthunder at fall graphics settings
@justiziero
@justiziero 2 месяца назад
Something that wasnt mentioned at all is the fingerprint scanner on the top. For now, the only brand and model to have iit, and thats a huge PLUS. BTW I dont know what happened with stock, they dont have it anymore on amazon
@realandrewhatfield
@realandrewhatfield 9 месяцев назад
Patrick, maybe I missed it, but can these be run via USB PD? Would love it if we arent forced to use that proprietary power connector. @8:58 it seems to be something wanted/needed and @13:58 it seems to be implied that you could.
@ServeTheHomeVideo
@ServeTheHomeVideo 9 месяцев назад
You need a higher wattage power source to do so, but it worked with the eGPU chassis
@realandrewhatfield
@realandrewhatfield 9 месяцев назад
@@ServeTheHomeVideo Good news, thank you! Next step will be to replace that power brick. Given the current $100 price tag for a 140w USB-C brick it might be a while...
@jonevansauthor
@jonevansauthor 6 месяцев назад
I would love to see these sorts of things with optional better cases. If you could get this, but an inch deeper, and with space for a simple Noctua fan, it'd probably take care of most cooling needs. Plus you could have room for a 2.5 inch drive. It's a bit weird they make basic mistakes like not having vents for the fans, not having cooling pads over the whole SSD etc etc when they're making an 'expensive' machine not an entry level one. Still, these things are all insane compare to desktops and thin clients of the past, and they're coming along nicely now that people are worrying about the silly Intel NUCs. Minisforum just released a really nice looking one which sits weirdly lower than their UM980 (sic?) and higher than it (it has Occulink for an eGPU and a few other bits, but a lesser processor). But it does have a lovely tiger logo that glows 🤣😂And would have me changing the boot up sound to Eye of the Tiger.
@BoraHorzaGobuchul
@BoraHorzaGobuchul 5 месяцев назад
That SSD cooling fail is ridiculous. I mean there can't have not been a point where an engineer looked at it and though "hmmm... Something's wrong here", so apparently they continued that thought with "nah, it's good enough", which is hilarious.
@jonevansauthor
@jonevansauthor 5 месяцев назад
@@BoraHorzaGobuchul I get the impression someone told the mini-PC manufacturers that they're limited to that exact size of machine, and how very dare they consider making it 5mm deeper or whatever. I suspect some of them just want a slightly different box design, but management won't let them innovate too much lest it scare the horses.
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