Depends on the compatibility with my existing hardware/planned future builds, battery life and range IRL (not as reported, since that's never accurate) and cross-brand compatibility. Since I build, my stuff is never the same from drone to drone. Also... for that same price, you can easily pick up a "Refreshed" fat shark or similar from the rain forest online merchant YT doesn't allow named, so it would be a comparison there between a known good product and a new contender. They would have to offer enough more than the old one for me to justify it. I do applaud the price, though, as this puts it in the affordable realm of a lot more people vs the average 3x this price that I see on other brands. Edit: by existing hardware, I mean components like chargers/batteries/controllers I already have from other RC hobbies besides drones. But... as a new user, I'd still want to know I can use it on any future ones I own/build. At least for a few years. I hate buying stuff that's outdated/unusable 6 months later. Edit 2: Oh, except it's not compatible with anything, even the camera modules we might have already, so the actual entry price is $379.99... (Can't just plug in an existing starvis module to their tx module or anything, which also limits you to ONLY using their cameras. Closed system.)
Stu, I'm glad to see you still in it. You are one of a few youtubers that inspired me to get into the hobby. I flew from 2016-2023 almost daily but more recently I haven't really been able to afford to maintain a set of gear. I'll fly again one day but I'm just happy to see you still doing your thing. Happy flying Stu!
Thanks so much mate. Honestly this is the most passionate I've felt about sharing FPV in probably the last 5 years. I've got so much to share and show people cool stuff. What part keeps breaking on your gear?
@@UAVfutures My need to drive somewhere is a large part of the cost. I also need batteries, my bag and GoPro both broke. It all just adds up. No worries at all though. I'll be back in the air eventually. I'm more hyped to see you having a good time talking about new gear.
FINALLY! I've been avoiding DJI for a while due to personal reasons, but man... I won't lie and say I wasn't jealous of their FPV. I feel both amusement at their paying 10x as much as I did and not building it themselves, and also a bit of jealousy over the amazing range/FPV they get straight out of the box. We fixed the range thing, pretty much, so it's just been a wait for the FPV. Thanks again, but I think I can hear my wallet cursing in the next room already! Gotta get this!🙂
@@LovesM855A1if you like your information and data going to China keep using Dji … lol why do you think they’re banning DJi it’s not because they’re a stand up company ….
They do make a very compelling point at $199. Personally on my craft I actually prefer caddx over DJI. I also like the smaller air units caddx walk snail offer. Great for little micro rippers
I’ve been out of the hobby for a few years now. So glad to see you’re still at it! You and Josh Bardwell were my go to channels when I started back in’ 15
These would be amazing for beginners to pair with one of the BNF walksnail whoops from happymodel or betafpv. 👍 I do wish they were a little more flexible... if only they had added some SMA antenna ports.
Great box goggles, but a real shame you cannot change antennas...will have do mod as per DJIs. I thought Walksnail was listening to the FPV community....
Thanx for this great review! Do you have access to the FatShark Recon HD Walksnail goggles and could you do a comparison with the Avatar Goggles L ? They seem to be very similar, as far as I know with basically these differences: - The Recon HD have an external video output, the Avatar don't. - The Recon HD can be used with optical correction glasses, the Avatar is too narrow for that. - The Recon HD have an FOV of 44°, the Avatar 75° - is this like comparison between a home tv screen and imax cinema? And what else differences are there? Is there a difference in visual quality, etc...?
If you purchase these, Whatever you do, DO NOT forget to pull the battery out of your pocket before you set your goggles down and walk off. I've had a set of DJI goggles with a broken screen since my second use of them a couple years ago. I printed a battery clip for them afterwards but the broken screen has progressively gotten worse. I can't justify spending another $300 to replace the screen. Since then my flying time has decreased immensely.
Great point. I do have a set of those but the difference between those goggles and these ones is night and day. I've got a review on them here too. I would like to try the real hd zero goggles though.
Hi Stu. I left FPV a few years back - wasn't happy with analog at all, it just didn't do it for me. Around the time AOMAY V1 with diversity came out and I had those. I sold everything and decided to wait for digital. It might finally be here.
I think this is perfect for us with high end digital setups that want to able to make a cheap digital whoop without investing $ in gogs . I think this will be exactly why I want this product and lack on antenna mid does not phase me
Nice review. For me, head tracking is a must as I use my drone for inspection in tight spaces with lots of obstacles. Would love a review of a complete system ...
@UAVfutures I fly the DJI Avata 2. My needs are long flight time, precise control (no swoopy doupy stuff for me), and head tracking. Typically, I am inspecting outdoor plumbing, farm structures (roofs, fencing, etc), and electrical lines. So far, this has been the best solution. Ideally, I would like to build my own, but I have been unable to find the 'full solution '. Thanks for your videos.
The killer for me are they are not glasses friendly, which is what I was hoping for when I saw a WS box goggle coming. Looks like i'll be sticking with my Cobra X's and getting the VRX instead.
This is what Steve used to fly. Skyzones with the rx. He's not a racer but never complained about latency. He was new back then though so he may feel differently now. Want me to ask him anything in particular?
Either I did not catch it in the video or it wasn't mentioned but I just received the goggles with quite the confusion. I think a huge point to hit here that was missed, especially when recommending these to beginners, is that the Battery connector to the goggles is a XT60 connector found on batteries like the 4s and 6s rather than the 2s which are XT30s.
Looks awesome, just got an analog Meteor85 but might have to switch to the hd version with this coming out. Do you know when the goggles will actually be released (not pre-order)? Thanks, awesome vid!
I guess for the price they had to cut something out. They don't do all the bells and whistles extra stuff etc. but what they do do is cheap digital FPV that feels great. My video going up today actually filmed inside both these and the cobras
I really don‘t understand people like that. Somebody drops a really nice product with price tag that is greatly lower than anything before. And people immediately complain that there are golden bells and whistles missing… 🤡
@@GrmlMaster not really, for people who are already flying analogue, most of them are flying with at least the cobras. For cheaper than these goggles, they can move on to the walksnail system with the walksnail vrx system and get a better experience. Don't you think due to this, walksnail might lose out on customers who are already flying analogue and want to shift to digital? I believe these are amazing goggles for anyone new to fpv, but for those who fly analog and want to shift? I believe they're better off getting the vrx for way cheaper and, more importantly, versatile system.
@@raps55 From what i have seen, the VRX Receiver alone costs more than the new googles, so for less money you get the receiver plus the goggle-hardware instead of a receiver and an hdmi port. So people can choose what is the better deal for them depending on their hardware. I really don‘t know what‘s to complain about…
Cool! For compact single unit and close range it's cheap👌. For long range flights I'd still go with their standalone VRX, DIY antennas, (w/ antenna tracker) output either to a screen or any analog googles that has HDMI in 👌☕
I'm far too invested in DJI now to justify moving to a competitor's system. If I was just starting in the hobby, I'd be buying these straight out though. Also, the VTX recording quality is a bit blurred out, even though it's meant to be 1080p. Compression artifacts, etc. What are the standard and max bitrates of that Walksnail system? It looks like DJI at 720p set to 25mbit. Minor complaint though.
yeah its hard to change systems once you are invested. i wouldnt swap either if I already spent cash on another system. But this is a great system and an ever better price for a new pilot
These sound great but it seems everyone has overlooked the Fatshark Recon HDs. Only a little more expensive, but a few extra good features like HDMI out.
was so exited that i could finally try out some digital fpv then i remember i still need to buy the camera and vtx for this system... well, at least i know what to get when my analog vtx need replacement
What VTX and camera were you using in the video? I'm planning to get the goggles L and Avatar HD V2. Will the video quality on the goggles be similar during daylight?
Im at 2 minutes now and you showed off the gogles, And 200 usd new does seem reasonable that would be like 50/100 bucks used I just hope they are also going to get cheaper camera's as digital cameras are also verry expensive
@UAVfutures yes, I have a hellfirefpv team shirt for sure. @DemonsFPV the founder of the hellfirefpv team asked Zak from risingsunfpv to make us a shirt for people to buy. He did an amazing job of the shirt. We are glad you like the shirt.
I was waiting for something like this do drop but honestly I would like to see different antenna options. Coming from someone that being flying analog exclusively, how relevant is circular and directional antennas for digital fpv? From what I saw these goggles come with a dual directional setup
@@UAVfutures I got HD Zero goggles recently with the idea of testing walksnail in the future with a module... but this comes in even cheaper... so yeah seems like a no brainer to go with these before investing in a new system fully
There aren't really any BnF walksnail whoops, but with the newest version of the 1s lite, you can make a 65mm whoop easily only at 20ish grams. If you do a lot of trimming and some ingenuity, I've seen builds down to 17g-18g.
Man this could the thing that finally gets me into FPV. I've been sitting on the wall forever, my one burning question is : Can you wear these with glasses?
So my question mate is looks like a good starter kit in my opinion i am looking myself at getting a set because i still have analog lol but can these goggles be paired to any of the walksnail vtx IE moonlight kit im interested in getting both these goggles and the moonlight kit because of 4k resolution would look amazing and 4ks range could uou maybe do a complete range test with on screen display of how far it will actually go just curious because i have had many different analog systems and all claim to go 5 or more ks but can never get it myself any information for it would be great
If these had analog input, they would be an incredible steal. The lack of analog really hurts though. I guess there are 1s whoop boards, but analog would be nice
Hey! Will you review the ymzfpv Lighting 2? I know you liked the 1 so much and sadly its out of stock and I wanted to buy one. But maybe the new one is even better?
Do u think these will pair well with the radio master tx16s mark 11 radio ??? I'm trying to enter fpv and it's kinda confusing but I bought my radio first n I figured my goggles next then my drone can u plz let me know tho if them two will work together
Well there's a couple of countries flying quads and possibly planes that might benefit from head tracking, or at least that's what the cynic in me sees. Right now they fly FPV, but imagine being able to look left and right to spot things of more interest while flying and at a price that is nice and cheap. The people that might bulk buy these are the same ones buying 2.5W and 10W analog vtx. ;)
ok - I tried reading all the comments but gave up - so at the risk of it already being asked... what vtx/camera would you recommend to go with this? And - Glasses? Does it still work? Thanks!!
They're box googles so if your frames are small enough you may be able to use them as is but if not the tech specs say: "The detachable lens desgins supports various vision needs, allowing for the installation of near-sighted, far-sighted or blue light blocking lenses..."
Hello, nice video! I want to switch from my analogue FPV to the digital system. My budget is relatively low and is around 300 to 350 euros. I would buy these glasses because I want to mount them on my RC plane, but I don't know which camera I should buy with them so that I don't have to pay more than 350 euros. However, it should be a good quality camera. Can you help me with which camera system I should buy with these goggles?
They don't look big enough for people with glasses. 😢 Am I correct to say you also need a digital camera on board your aircraft? If so, are they expensive?
The googles are not the problem, IMHO. It's the parts you put on a quad and risk damaging in every flight. I started 2 months ago with analog because I was able to buy Caddx Ratel 2 + AKK 800 mW VTX for $40 during a sale. Already gone through 2 x Rush Cherry antennas. Also I just got HGLRC Draknight for a price of the Walksnail Avatar Kit. ($100). Maybe I'll try walksnail on my sub 250 4 inch long range quad, because it weighs less than a thumb cam...
been flying for 8yrs and I've broken less in fact hardly anything at all ever since I switched to walksnail. Flying analog was always a gamble, wait weeks because of weather and other factors only to crash and break a frame or cam or motor.... but was a good learning experince, albeit an expensive one...
No, they didn't. You can buy a lense frame for 4 euros. The detachable lens design supports various vision needs, allowing for the installation of nearsighted, farsighted, or blue light-blocking lenses to meet individual preferences.
Cheap goggles doesn't mean digital systems have become affordable. Goggles were always a one time buy sort of thing and the difference between analog and digital wasn't that huge, the problem is the vtx and camera systems you put on drones, which you often crash unless you fly like a geriatric super careful bloke and at the same time don't enjoy the hobby to the max. When I'll see a vtx and camera for less than $100 I'll get into digital, until then analog is the best option for me and for a lot of people that still fly analog
i just get an almost new avata full kit, remote, goggles drone with 2 batterys, for 500$, know i will at least change the motor for c157, or full axis 3.5 kit. i also buy a babyhawck II HD, for 170$ no battery
Great video. Can any one tell me my Hudson h501s drone would I get the same read out on FPV googles as I do on my screen on the radio control so every single thing on my radio control screen the same on googles. Thanks
great question. So all digital systems need an reciever and a transmitter. we call the transmitter either the VTX for video transmitter or airunit. The RX or reciever is basically whats built into the goggles we wear. all the digital systems need their own system to intergrate with, no mix and match. This specific system is the walksnal avatar system. So the drone has its own walksnail airunit that only walksnail goggles can decode and recieve. does that make sense?
i missed the one on the goggle vid for 2024, just saw that one. I saw some on the drone stop video redcat thingy too. sorry I didnt reply in that one. the comments on that entire video were a little heated. cheers for being here though, appreciate it mate. hows the orcas going?
@@UAVfutures no worries mate would like help with setting up a viewing station for non fpv people to see what is going on from pilots view just a suggestion for future video mate
I dont think its misleading but yes digital does cost more in the vtx side of things, BUT its the antenna, air unit and camera, you could easily spend that on an analog vtx, camera and antenna
@@UAVfutures I have tons of quads with analogue fpv on, most complete all in ones cost £10 to £15 so it is a big difference still. Defo going in the right direction though, I dont race other people but I do fly fast and low through tiny gaps etc making my own race tracks in affect and like a low latency that analogue gives me, never tried digital but from what ive seen the latency is an issue for this sort of flying?
The quadcopter is transmitting on an open channel, you can only connect one for two-way communication but you can connect an arbitrary number of devices for receive-only.
its wireless. SO the main recieving headset passes the image onto the ride along set. and im not 100% sure this, BUT from what i have heard. IF you start loosing signal etc, the main goggles will stop trying to "broadcast" etc and focus everythingon getting your signal back to the main pilot if your drone is about to be lost etc.
@@UAVfutures Yes! I have just never been able to justify investing such an enormous amount of cash into switching to digital, this really brings into into the more affordable range for me, and I am sure for a lot of others as well :-) Most embarrassingly, both my mate and I are still using our very first goggle purchases from years ago when we started ... remember the Quantum Cyclops V2??? lolololol Now just to convince our wives that 'the time has come' LOL
When are these fpv goggles going to ha e the same fov as vr headsets? I use vr daily for work, rhen when switching to these fpv goggles its like looking at 2 poststamps from half a metree away
never, also pilots have consistantly given feedback that too much FOV is actually more difficult to fly with when going at high speed. large fov is great for a ride along, but not so much for actual piloting.
yeah i know right. thats why I was amazed at the range I was getting with zero loss. those flights you see with me and steve talking etc ARE THE EXACT images and dvr we saw while flying. INSANE
Hi Stew, Great video and review for the Caddx Avatar walksnail box googles. Headtracker is a blast to use with fix-wing and wings. As Great as they are, I'm going with the walksnail module for I can use with a ground station. Thanks again for the video and info on the new walksnail googles.
@@UAVfutures That's OK. I would still need to buy the camera and vtx. I haven't the cash for that currently. However it does look an impressive goggle for the money. 👍
