It's NOT What It Looks Like ...!!! | Mac Studio M1 Ultra Long Term Review (2 Months later) 

*Love your videos Unmesh! Are you getting the MAC or PC? I ´m try to decide what is the best for me. I´m a phtoshop user 90% of the time.*

@@OneTap__ I'm the last person to ask, haha. Actually I use both since I have to teach on both platforms and be aware of their quirks.

@@PiXimperfect Thank you so much for your reply Unmesh!! Keep it up with the good work! Was a pleasure to see you replied! THANKS!

You just saved me the trouble of writing essentially the same thing. Thanks...jt

scaling is the problem with the m1 series, the more cores you have the more it stagnates, thats why combining 2 m1 max chips only gave it 25-50% more power, should be fixed with m2

@@mikhailgostev6492 That depends on the tasks, the M1 Ultra is far away from perfekt in scaling but 100% scaling is a dream and everything has to be perfekt, the hardware, the software and the problem/task to finish.

@@mikhailgostev6492 no this is false

I have an LG UHD for my M2 Studio and you have to use their proprietary USB/Thuinderbolt connector. The one quirk you do need to know is that you need a small add in to control the display/volume from the keyboard.

Happy to help

its on the macbook air too. Try running thunderbird on an external non-mac monitor. This is bonkers.

@@theTechNotice Get SwitchResX for MacOS. At $16, It lets you control your resolutions without having to go through the double scale. Just select a non HiDPI resolution and you are set to go.

@@thomasfessler will have to check that out. Thanks 🙏

@@thomasfessler I use EasyRes. I presume that is achieving the same result (avoiding scaling up and down) but not 100% sure.

Why not get both? Many professionals have multiple devices for different workflows. Especially because you can easily get a Mac mini or iMac for the price of a SINGLE graphics card lately. At that point it makes no sense to chose one brand over another. You can easily use different devices for different jobs.

@@ghost-user559 so i have my resources scattered across multiple systems? Especially not between apple and windows, its a pain to even just transfer files

@@drkastenbrot You’re not limited to that anymore. That’s a really old fashioned way to look at computers. With a NAS, you literally can access anything from any computer on your home network and you can easily set up a home server with 8-20TB storage accessible remotely from home or at work off of any machine? You can easily use a KVM or something in software like barrier to instantly use your keyboard and mouse and other peripherals without changing ports. It’s just a personal opinion at this point. It’s easier than ever to have the best of both worlds. Tons of people have multiple consoles for gaming or a handheld like a switch AND a steam deck. It’s literally a good thing to get a better device for a different task. Why not? There is no downside to using multiple devices. Especially if you look at storage differently. Literally store all your stuff from laptops and desktops on a central home server or NAS, and what you store on your device is just whatever you are using at the time. Mac mini’s for example make amazing home media servers to replace Spotify or Netflix to stream your own content without paying for a subscription. It’s a decent investment for people who look at computers as tools. You don’t have to just use whatever Microsoft or Linux or Apple decides you can use. You can use all three for whatever tasks and hardware fit best.

​@@ghost-user559 both isn't bad. though it was nice to be able to upgrade my pc..with thunderbolt..to get 20gbe to the studio..

​@@drkastenbrot not really..? I use both daily..barrier let's me move mouse right across.. no issues with file transfer..and tbh I haven't had any since before win7 on any version of os x..only remote issue i had was Mac smb seeing my 20gve thunderbolt as 999mbps thus less than the 1gbps main lan and preferring that for transfers which was easy to fix by turning off the multi homing feature..

the fans work the opposite way dude. they expel air not suck lol

@@mrcgeraldes Next time your at a Apple shop. flip over a Mac Studio to see what's happening underneath. Then report back to me with what you find!

@@mrcgeraldes okay then where does the air it’s blowing out come from….

lol own goal you duche

It's the same trashcan design but with air exhaust at the back instead of top.

Glad you like them!

So why does he delete even post which refutes his viewpoint?

I’m staying on my 3 Mac Pro 2010 , MacBook Pro 2011, use to make music, animation, Mac programming, run Mac OS X server, Mac gaming/windows gaming

A $4000 high-end, self-built PC can’t keep up with a M1 Max MacBook Pro in anything. That’s what’s frustrating. The only reasons I still use a PC is for gaming where Apple doesn’t choose to compete.

@@broadwayphotovideo yeah okay

Thanks for that input, very valuable!

Since Intel has ARC coming out soon, many are thinking it’ll be like a super up quick sync and support 10 bit 4:2:2 decoding and encoding. Hopefully that’s the case.

You can manipulate background windows without even making them frontmost window with pressing som of the modifier keys.

I’m hoping intels GPUs will act as a decode for 10 bit 4:2:2. Would be super easy for me then. Like a suped up quick sync since I’m still preferential to premieres layout. If it was faster I wouldn’t want to switch.

Video on youtube please? Talking is cheap

@@RiceCubeTech me too but apple owns pro res and other codecs and might not license them to Intel.

@@Tigerex966 I didn’t say anything about pro res. There are 10 bit codecs that are not Apple. For one, Sony uses their own 10 bit 4:2:2 codec and that’s all I need to be decoded since that’s what I shoot on.

In some ways more, in some ways less.

Since it’s SO close to 4000 and AM5 from AMD it’s probably worth waiting. It’s a whole platform and generation jump within the next few months. If it was middle of life cycle for 3000 series (like one year after release it would be worth it) but if 4000 isn’t good enough for the price you can always just get a 3080ti for cheap when people try to sell them for a 4080.

i mean u just guys noticed? apple just take ur money away without things that u really want for example ports in macbooks

Except he's deleting my posts which refute his claims.

@@daveh6356 I’ve read multiple comments from you. What’s up? Why so salty? Apple fan?, Windows fan?, Chrome book fan?

Yea but he’s a windows fanboy. What’s the difference. Lol. I use both daily for years. My take - for gpu intensive programs, use windows and for cpu intensive programs use mac.

@@Boxhead42 I use both as well. Maybe I’m use to Windows more than MacOS. I own a Mac Studio with M1 Max and I have to say the scaling issue is frustrating so if there is a genuine fix anyone knows about I’d love to know.. I’ve held off on getting a 5k display for the time being.

Dude doesn’t know how to order his grade nodes, and he doesn’t know how to manipulate an inactive window in MacOS. Hardly an expert. Why anyone is even using Resolve’s built in NR is a mystery to me.

@@twoeggcups In windows you dont even need to manipulate an inactive window lol

@@billx4266 Why should you do so on macOS? Thing is you can, un like in Windows :)

@@twoeggcups what’s the best NR you recommend? RG?

@@BowenMoreno Neat, it’s brilliant

I don't think you understand how the new systems are made: integrating the CPU, GPU and RAM together allow the computer to run faster and more efficient.

Well, as we’ve seen, not quite fast and efficient enough to justify the price. I love what Apple is pioneering! And I’ve been an Apple fan boy for decades. But they continue to not quite make good on their promises.

@@rsr789 iSheeps will do anything to justify the crap Apple does. Thankfully, it's their money which Apple loots, not mine.

You should make a video on this solution. This is so cool and I’ve never heard of anyone using this for music. Super dope!

This Is new

@@RiceCubeTech It's really cool, but not new, and there are loads of videos about the software. I just had to do some research to find it! If you're interested it's called Vienna Ensemble Pro (VEP) and it costs about 100 bucks for the first license and 70 for each additional networked machine. It's cross-platform so you can add any Mac or PC you own to your network taking CPU strain off the computer that hosts your DAW. In my case, I enjoy the huge 3:2 touch canvas of my Surface Studio 2, but its processor is outdated. Doesn't matter with a VEP network. Pretty dope. 😊

Man you really need to make a video on this showing everything you did. It's always better to show than tell...make that youtube money bro...lol

wrr

Steve Jobs Greedy Phylosophy as Always (Closed System, Propitary Hardware and Software) works as a Monopoly

4K scales fine at 32”.

What a load of nonsense. MacOS and windows are equally terrible at 4k, both need scaling to 1440p at 27 inch to get a functional result. 4K at 32 inch is absolutely fine, on both OS, at native.

@@twoeggcups yeah but macOS scales first to 5k and then down to 1440p on a 4k monitor, when you wanna have a nicely scaled looking desktop, which means you get shitty performance. On an Intel Mac with integrated graphics, everything stutters and chops along

@@TheMetroRetro but it doesn’t, I’ve been using Macs for decades. Scaling from 5K to 1440p is a piece of cake for a modern GPU. There is no upscale in that pipeline, it’s just a downscale, and a simple one.

Not at all as the temps are well within the safe range with plenty of headroom to go higher, Apple needs to resolve this. Check out the other reviews on RU-vid which demonstrates this via stress tests. Cheers

Would this design m limitation lead you to a PC or other Mac?

Sure you did 🤣

thanks for the feedback. im also planning to get mac studio. im not a professional who uses photo / video editting for a living, however i do use it for loght editing for my kids and game streaming. anyway, thanks for your insight

@@RealHanbeats Why you crying? 🤔

@@TomasRamoska 🤣🤣🤣🤣

@@RealHanbeats Sorry you laughing 🤭

If they increase there sells , its not a mistake

They kind of had to. That’s why they carefully chose the watt graph (which no-one cares about on a desktop)

@@MartinAaberge Some of us are very dependent on mobile computing where power efficiency is super important.

When and how did you try a Mac...? ...if ever.

@@peterbreis5407 I have bought iphone 4 and then was hooked into Apple and purchased Mac mini 2011. I was able to update phone only to used one, also later I updated Mac mini to most powerful I. 2011 line. After that there were not updated Mac mini for almost 5 years. After that new Mac mini was even less power than mine, after that it was more powerful but without ability to update memory and SSD. And if I buy ram and SSD I want it came to more than 2000 usd. That was too much fo something that spec. I understood that if I stay in Mac ecosystem I always will buy used things and never have money for new. Not because I do not have money but because I am not ready to pay like half more for same spec, yet never have upgradability. So I made a decision to pay more now and be free later. I've purchased Hades canyon NUC, Android phone and I still use that PC and it is still have enough power. If I want to buy new one, it will cost me half less then current Mac lines. And I should also say Mac os sucks. File navigation is a joke. Memory management bad.

@@serhioromano So you tried a 2011 Mac mini and didn't like it. I'm not surprised it was awfully underpowered and neglected by Apple. Can't say that about the M1 Mac mini, or other current models, and I have checked out NUCs ever since they started copying the mini form factor and have never seen one that was cheap, good or value. Have no idea what you are talking about with file navigation and memory management... ...and I use macOS, Windows, Linux, iOS, Android and ChromeOS.

It’s funny how bad MAC scales display resolution but how well it handles HDR. And how well windows scales resolution but how bad it handles HDR. Can’t stand that there’s no perfect solution.

@@RiceCubeTech I actually think Windows does scaling the same way as macOS, but Windows has a higher granularity, you can chose any percentage instead of a few fixed resolution presets on macOS. So Windows' approach is more flexible. I have a MacBook Pro 16 with Apple Silicon connected to a 32" 4K monitor using 2560x1440 in Display prefs and the scaling and performance is fine, also when watching video that has to be scaled 60 times a sec. No notable performance hit. On the contrary, on my 2017 Intel based MacBook Pro 15, scaling performance takes a big hit with the "wrong" resolution.

@@RiceCubeTech actually windows handles kinda in the same way, but you can choose the percentage, the scale have to be 4x bcs of the grid of pixels, to match with the monitor.

@@Jason_Carnes That's odd. Are you certain you're actually getting 2840x2160 res on your display?

The reason you've never heard of it is because it isn't a problem. This is a well-crafted Apple troll site. Keep believing your own eyes.

I've two external HI-Res rotating displays attached to my MacBook Pro M1 Pro, one of which is a 4K Dell. What "huge scaling issue problem "? I set the pixel rendering on each display and simply enjoy the high resolution as needed.

Im coming from a 2015 iMac myself and thinking the same and want to order the Studio Max. What were you not blown away by? The performance? I do a lot of video editing.

It's not a problem. I have a 5K 27" screen at home that I run at 1440p and a 4K 27" screen at work, which I run at 1440p equivalent. The 5K screen looks better, but the 4K screen looks just fine, too. And it's been fine for the last several generations of Apple. I was able to do this on Intel Macs w/ integrated graphics, even. I don't know what this guy is talking about.

benq claims to have compatible displays

You and I have the same experience it seems. I moved from Mac to a custom PC in 2020. I was a Mac user for almost 10 years. Have no desire to return.

And Cheaper!!

Do you have to do anything different with regard to viruses on PC?

@@e.g.1218 I just use the built in Windows Security and have never once had an issue. The best protection will always come from user habits and practices. A knowledgeable user can be secure on any OS.

i’m moving from pc to mac

I've also got a mint editor;)

Lol. Keep dreaming mate. M1, M2 will never be as powerful as dedicated gpu. Do you think Apple uses magic to develop technology? btw optimization is also not magic. It's usually a give and take, ie you make one area run faster, but sacrafice the performance in another area.

I’ll say this about the new M chips. Part of my job is to render movie trailers for a 16 screen video wall. I use after effects to do this, a 3 minute video used to take 8 hours on my intel Mac Pro, that same video takes 45 minutes on my M1 Max.

@@MrAkaacerwhat do you think a graphics card is comprised of? The GPU cores and RAM. It’s basically a computer itself.

Being enclosed kept me hindered from optimal performance. I've been editing on the Mac 2013 which is essentially still the industry standard. I looked into buying the Mac Pro Tower... starting at 5999.00 but quickly realized that I could build something much more powerful at a fraction of the price. I just started building my own box, PC... OMG, it's a powerhouse. AMD Ryzen 9 7950x, RTX 3090 TI FE, 128 GB DDR5, 4 TB of internal SSD storage, another 20TB SATA 7200 RPM, with a custom loop (water cooled for overclocking.)My machine would outpace a 10k - 15k Mac Tower with no problem... I'm spending around 6,500... I'm not done yet... so the water loop fixtures can mess with the numbers.

You can pull around 1500 watts from a socket safely here. That's still close to zero PCs.

You don't need to rewire your house LOLs. And neither will you need to remortgage your house. ;-)

4:52 Yeah I think that's it, IMO it's misleading

Depending on your eyesight, distance from monitor, and resolution size will determine how easily you can detect it. Also it’s much more noticeable with text. This experience is more jarring if you are switching from PC to Mac because you will notice that with the same exact monitor(s) that everything looks unusually more blurry than the PC.

@@bluecement Good point my eyes might have gotten used to it... i'll defo give windows a try to see if there's a difference soon. Thanks!

@@bluecement interesting point. I've just recently switched from 20 years of windows workstations to the Mac studio connected directly to an LG 5K2K ultrawide via thunderbolt 3. Text crispness has been completely fine and if anything, is less fatiguing after hours of work. Not sure whether my ppi (163ppi) and viewing distance (60cms) play a roll but even gettin ridiculously close, I'm not noticing any downsides.

wrr

Must admit this video really made me hesitate on purchasing 4k, however am running on a Mac Pro 2013 and while ive seen a 10% hit to GPU, it hasn’t been an issue. I’m only editing 1080p content in final cut so far but no issues with playback. I got the Mateview too and have that connected to a 2012 iMac in target display mode as a second monitor, again performs well in dual monitor setup I have 12c/d500/64, way shy of this system.

Yup. And that's why they aren't even an option for pro level live production.

Any updates on performance?

Why would you need 50 youtube videos open at the same time?

It's not for anyone. Seems like you're just trying to justify a bad purchase lol

@@theoriginalKland Wow, we've definitely got a PC mob fanboy here spoken from a position of ignorance....apart from the raw power of these machines versus equally or higher priced similarly performing windows alternatives, you should try learning MacOS and spending a few months actually working with it as your main OS, and then let's hear you justify the Windows operating system (And I currently use Windows as my daily driver.)

@@pixelwash9707 Lol. No I just know what I'm talking about. It barely competes with lower priced machines in benchmarks. As do almost all Apple computers. Owned a mac for years.

@@theoriginalKland Mmmm, a real expert eh? Sounds like you have it all worked out, like the author of this video. If you believe Windows 10, and the PCI GPU architecture is really great, I don't think any rational argument will make either of you change your minds about it, although when Windows machines copy the new unified Mac architecture over the next few years, I'm sure you will change your tune, and so will your fellow mob members. I don't disagree Windows machines on the middle to high performance range especially are cheaper than Macs, but if your time is worthless, wasting it on keeping Windows running seems like a perfect logical way to spend it, lol.

@@pixelwash9707 lol. So, in other words, you've got no argument. How am I wasting my time with windows when it does things quicker and more intuitively that Mac OS. Here. I'll give you an example. Plug in an external monitor and push a non-standard resolution though it. With windows, ez-pz With mac.. lol.. well, first you have to figure out there's secret resolution settings, then you need to figure out how to get to them.. then you pray when you choose a non standard one that the entire system doesn't have an aneurysm. Or how about the fact that if you don't use an Apple 5k or 6k display final cut and premiere will run like they're on a laptop from 2002, because they don't do scaling properly. "Properly".. lol we all know it's not a "bug", it "a feature" designed to force you to buy more overpriced apple gear. Sorry, but I don't want to deal with a company that cripples and sabotages their own machines just to get more money out of people... And their machines don't even perform at professional levels anymore. Say what you will, but I can't see a single objective reason to use Apple products.

Hi, what monitor are you using.

translation: I am not investing in making money...lol

FCP works faster because it is integrated with mac video encoder engine

"invested" hahahaha it's called expend.

I used 4k on my mac mini m1, currently use 2560 x 1440 because i changed to a calibrated monitor.

Then sell it after 2-3 years, get half your money back and plant it on the next one. The benefits of integrated systems far outweight any perceived advantage of "you can make it better later"

What exactly do you need to upgrade? Just order your Mac Studio Ultra with the 64 core GPU option, a 2 TB system drive, and 64 GB of RAM (or 128 GB if you really want to splurge). That will literally hold you for the next 10 years. Then get an 8 TB 2.5" SSD for $700 and put it in a blazing fast Thunderbolt enclosure and your storage needs will be met for the next 10 years. I honestly don't see the problem.

@@ToddCampopiano Ah, if only Apple offered a 10 year warranty.

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Buy the 3090rtx ti, 450 watts of power gone get yuo warm

Why are you comparing a laptop to a desktop? You can tell the difference I presume.

What are you talking about? You can develop on linux and windows just as well. There's nothing inherently better about Mac for development. Sounds like you're trying to justify an overpriced machine because it looks cool.

@@MrAkaacer each has there preferred workflow. For me trying to develop on Windows and Linux requires too much fiddling and time is money when you have deadlines. It also limits scope of your work ie IOS dev

​@@MrAkaacer, everyone knows the pain in the ass that Windows and Linux pop more times than they should! With Windows is just outrageous, one spends more time dealing with the OS than producing really work!!! With macOS it just flows!!! Just check, most developers use macOS, and that's not a coincidence!!

​@@MrAkaacerhaha you lose! Macs are better haha!

The issue is high DPI mode (which apple calls retina). The exact same issue is present with Windows.

@@twoeggcups not true

Apple doesn’t have any scaling options at all, all they do is just lowering the resolution

@@hextobyte I wonder what the ‘scaled’ dialogue in the monitors control panel is, then?

@@hextobyte They have scaling. Just not with some external monitors.

Ya, once I learned that, I was severely disappointed. Cheaper for me to just buy a used 3090 and upgrade to the studio version, than do anything else.

Also 1440p isn't an option for me. I've never used it and never intend to. 4k or more.

Great! I was going to ask that. Getting ready to by an LG 5k monitor with this for work.

actually apple scaling is the only one out there that makes sense, no one with a brain uses a 4k monitor ever, especially 24" that is so awful i have no words for it. do not use inferior pc hardware along Apple products, it ruins everything. there is no keyboard with touch id, and the useless mechanical stuff is complete noisy garbage, slowing down typing speed with insane travel distances. there is no mouse out there that even remotely has the functionality of the magic mouse and there is no mouse out there that is as comfortable as the magic mouse. lets not start about the magic trackpad, windows is pure trash in that regard, they improved like 600% the last years but its still lightyears behin, and still not usable. on a mac the trackpad is completely viable and many use it instead of a mouse. ppl have to stop changing to mac and expect things like in a Pc you have to relearn and rethink everything.

Apple's legal team should take this guy down, his deceptive, disingenuous bias is disgraceful.

@@daveh6356 No need to disguise yours.

Its... Well I don't know... Coming from a background in silicon architecture Apple has made a compromise that the rest of the industry COULD have made, but chose not to... Apple silicon has lower yields than the rest of TSMC and Intel's fabs, this is a result of their choice to go with monolithic architectures. To combat it they have binned chips that had defects on 1-2 cores as the M1, and made the non-defective chips the Pro binned chips, a similar strategy to what all other manufacturers have done within the same chip set for skews within the same CPU, the only difference being the interconnect being designed for the full width of the monolithic die on an accessible edge to reduce all forms of loss (Power, heat, signal, etc). This choice comes with consequences. First consequence, fewer skews. Second consequence, cost per silicon increased. Third consequence, immensely more wasted silicon. Fourth consequence, less hardware flexibility to adapt to new use cases. The chiplet design that both AMD and Intel have done will never be able to compete in pure raw compute with the monolithic design of the all in one massive Apple Silicon approach. The closest we have is AMD Epic processors, which also lack the generalizable application of Apple silicon since they rely on discrete solutions to do what they can't. Obviously Apple has huge gains in power consumption using this method, and it will have the most powerful "single chips" in the industry so long as it continues... Its not clear to me this is actually better though in a ecosystem of software that is increasingly focusing on parallel processing, which is an inevitability because of the difficulty in continuing to shrink nodes, requiring a different way of processing in order to gain continued improvements. At the end of the day, I see neither as inherently superior or "The Future"... Seems to me both have SERIOUS problems... no matter how much we improve fabs, on the scales of current processors defects are inevitable, so yield can never be perfect, and larger monolithic dies will always have much poorer yields than chiplet designs. The increased power efficiency is very helpful, and could create a bottleneck (As it is doing for Intel, although not so much for AMD, proving its less a chiplet issue, more an architecture issue), but we're not at the point where its obviously one yet. I think personally I would like to see a schism in the market... I think there are extremely powerful compute applications where monolithic designs are going to be useful and desired, and I want them to start returning to those for the science and server space applications... However... For most consumer applications, I think I find much more use in chiplet designs, modularity, and the ability to add and alter specific hardware solutions for new problems and applications based on use case... As such, I don't see apples HIGHLY limited hardware suite as particularly beneficial in the long term considering advances in both hardware and software keep splintering into requiring increasing creation of special application silicon to process in specific niche ways.

@@peterbreis5407 it’s the same with all his videos, he “praises” the superficial, then finds suboptimal codec/adjustment combinations & tries to slate the product. When he asks for a benchmark which supports Apple’s claim & I post the GFXBench results, he deletes the posts!

@@dragoonsunite as with everything time will tell. but i think apple's choice of its own cpu hardware may hinder it in the very long run. trying to do everything itself may cause it to defocus. currently they re more profit driven then ever. keep making cocky claims... it may fall into the same trap intel did years ago feeling comfortable and untouchable... arm is not really hard to implement for special tasks for intel/amd. amd went the chiplet design for a reason, the more complex (cores/caches/gpu/ai etc) all packed into one single chip will require high precision level of manufacturing when scaled up. dont think amd is dumb to go chiplet design, they are in this industry long enough. even ibm in their latest designs going chiplets when scaling up. also when people say apple encoder playing multiple 4k videos simultaneously, can someone check whether they are downscaled (1440p) and played by scaled up again? this kind of sound like big cheating. you would understand if this is game gimmick to gain performance but in video/photo editing pipeline? that would sure cause some sort of legal action unless the outputs are preserved and this is for only playback? someone can make artificial video in patterns at pixel level and play it and checked with macro lenses on the display?

Nice one 👍

U JUST GUYS REALIZED IT? NEVER BOUGHT AN APPLE PRODUCT SINCE 2019. IPAD SALE 229

I’m sure Apple’s graphs are for real, but they could be a LOT more upfront about what’s being represented. Of course they’re going to put their best foot forward, why would anyone expect them to do otherwise?

@@wonrei i never bought in my entire life. Just android, formerly windows and currently linux mint

@@twoeggcups Because Apple has done the same trick in the past: MBP 2019 was slower than older MBP

Most Mac users also think that the Magic Mouse sucks 😆

No thanks, nor Mac Studio

M1 did a lot for macbooks... when they used intel, their form over performance mind-set would pretty much automatically nerf performance due to thermal throttling vs pretty much any windows laptop with similar specs. Now apple is king as basically a chromebook/light office workload scenario which is actually the larger percent of laptop users.

If you do any audio recording the Mac Studio is a great option. Fan noise is a real problem on PC. Even with fan control. I use both platforms.

Naw, their laptops are overpriced and underpowered as well. I honestly don't understand why anyone would want to use OSX over windows. It's not intuitive and 50% of it's features are hidden or inaccessible. Not to mention their purposeful effort to ensure that their products and things produced on their products don't work on other products.

@@kzs831 That's still their mindset. They currently give you a fairly powerful chip.. and then purposely knee cap it to run at lower speeds. The M1 could be a great chip, but Apple purposely cripples it.

@@Hue_Nery lol.. never had this non-issue on a PC. There is no valid reason to get an M1 other than : "I want an M1"

If you spec out the HP Z2 Mini with an i9 12900K processor, 2 TB SSD, and 64 GB of RAM, the price is $4,700 and change. And you are stuck with the low end Intel graphics and can have only one Displayport, HDMI, or Thunderbolt 3 port (and not all three at once)! Oh, and if you want a second SSD, the max you can get is a 4 TB drive for a whopping $2,349. That's $349 more than Apple charges for an 8 TB drive! For those prices, you might as well buy a fully loaded Mac Studio Ultra. It's a far better machine for less money.

wrr

Same. It was Windows 10 and its glued together various parts. Only the most surface level stuff on Windows 10 looks slick, below the surface is a mess.

Mac OS is stable as long as you're only using apple software and hardware. Otherwise it has a hissy fit and won't do anything. Lol

@@theoriginalKland I use plenty of software & hardware that isn’t created by Apple, and yet have never had macOS have a ‘hissy fit’. Either in video editing or music technology macOS has been rock solid, I have never had a crash out or lost work on a Mac, I can’t say the same for windows, I got in the habit of CTRL-S every 10 minutes when I was using anything in windows!!!

@@danwillmott9789 I guess milage varies. I've had plenty of issues over the years.

Yes switching to the command key from the control key can be an insuperable barrier for some.

Good for you, @Nighthawk. I have totally different experience. I feel super unproductive and frustrated using windows at home for more than 5 minutes. After 40 years Microsoft still can't present a smoothly working OS. It's still a Frankenstein OS that misses to many features that would optimise user experience... but it's my personal opinion; a view from a person who has used a number of OS's. I will continue using MACOS for most things atm.

@@mcfunthomas_mc me to