It's Time to Be Honest About Gacha. | Genshin, HSR + Wuthering Waves 

WAS THIS EVEN NUCLEAR BC WHEN I FINISHED THIS VIDEO IT ALL SEEMED VERY LUKEWARM AND BORING??? I THINK I HAVE DR RATIO TRAUMA I'M NGL Watch on Twitch: www.twitch.tv/hex_juice Join the Discord: discord.gg/hexjuice

Confirmed. Hex is Abby's VA.

Correct gacha is not a genre. It's a _business model_ . Just like not all arcade games are the same.

I have a feeling that the core problem of all the yapping that is present in these games' story comes from chinese storytelling. I've read some chinese novels before and they also had the issue of using a lot of words to say very little. If that is the reason, I don't expect it to ever improve, but time will tell.

"You cannot reason someone out of something he or she was not reasoned into." It fits so well about gacha game community.

It feels like most people have forgetten or dont realise "agree to disagree" even with your friends exists, kinda sad everything has to be a war over the most silly stuff

Gacha communities are quite literally the most aggressively tribal communities I have ever experienced, even more-so than MMO communities, and that takes some doing. When you have to pay (or get lucky / spent rare resources) for every character, you get incredibly defensive - and that's 100% intentional a feature of the gacha monetization.

yes, good healthy consumerist opinions being aired here, i like it. lets be intelligent customers, know our wants and nots, remain critical and not defend the multi billion dollar company. thank u hex, i appreciate u

I am an addict in recovery and was never really big into video games, but when I started hsr a year ago it was over. recently I’ve had to put down the gacha games because it was getting bad, and I suspect a lot of hardcore gacha players are also addicted to the model. With the guaranteed pity system it offers the illusion of “not *really* gambling” but this just encourages users to keep pulling to hit pity. This is a hyperbolic analogy but I imagine the gacha as the drug and the devs as a dealer. People are willing to accept being treated like crap and even defend the devs as long as they continue to get their “drug”

quite a Kuro stan myself, ok with people reasonable opinion about Wuwas weak point, just trust that Kuro can make it better ,no need to wait for years.

How DARE YOU. Blue power is nowhere NEAAAR the red power ranger

Doesn't seem very nuclear, kinda just logical 😂 good on ya

Preach Hex! 🙏Gacha has been a large reason my disinterest in story across ALL gaming. Ruined my brain by just learning to not care about it.

i'm one of the people who wanted genshin but with QoL 😆 to be specific i wanted an open world that didn't suck to move around in and that's like 80% of the reason i was excited for WuWa. hope you feel more comfortable sharing your takes in the future! it's always more fun to watch someone speak passionately.

For the Gacha community : Completely agree with you. The community is full of themselves and act high and mighty when you don't control RNG and if you pay your experience next to someone who does it less or not at all will never be the same. I'm kinda annoyed personally that people are acting like they're speaking for everyone. You basically said it's yours so it's fair from the start. I can respectfully disagree but I don't really have a problem here For the HSR part : Ruan Mei is so broken I told my friends day one this character is busted as hell. I can't believe people think Sparkle is better than her when the reality is : - Ruan Mei is centered around break effect and helps characters who doesn't have a great break efficiency - Having 2 TURNS when an opponent doesn't play in a TURN BASED GAMES IS COMPLETELY AND UTTERLY INSANE. People don't understand turn based games enough to get it. If I take epic Seven for example there's a reason why bosses in PvE are immuned to stun. There's also a reason why they are a few characters in a game allowed to have 2 turns stun in their kits. The game isn't hard at all. But it just needs you to connect your brain to understand what you need and the game is a cakewalk after that For Wuwa : It's a breath of fresh air. Story in gachas I don't expect much from them (Genshin was mid and still is I don't care) but I'll see how much it will improve. For the VA for the first time I gave up on the EN. I usually use the english voices by default (despite getting annoying comments by the people who use JP voices because of the entitlement I explained in the first point) but I think I'm not brothered too much by JP voices here. I'll give EN a shot in a patches or two but it's possible I won't change again. I'll just play for fun and see how it goes because for once I won't play because my friends play and I didn't mind.

People don't seem to realise that you can like something but also see issues with it and want improvements. I've noticed this in alot of things where if you are not 100% supportive on something then you get labelled as something and all that really does is push people away from the game, series, film etc.

The thing about HSR is that player performance will vary WILDLY depending on a metric ton of different factors and the assumptions/caveats are not given their due attention. I keep seeing a bunch of "catch all" opinions and then at the end there's like an off-hand comment somewhere along the lines of "assuming you have Ruan Mei and her LC" or whatever. The difference in my experience before/after getting Acheron (also Ruan Mei on her re-run) is just insane. Could I have survived without them? Sure but that would require a laundry list of other boxes to tick.

Even though this sucks to see, I'm glad more people are just being honest about gachas.

I hope wuwa fix optimization on mobile before the release of scar because i really can't play or grind for him I hope hsr stop power creeping 5 star characters I hope genshine make the game better

These are great discussion topics I'd like to see you talk about with other creators/players tbh.

Tbh I ended up quitting HSR for the same reason I quit Genshin, being that if I'm going to be playing a low quality long term gacha grind fest, at least let the gameplay be somewhat interesting. Genshin's combat is straight ass and the elemental reaction system is awful. I thought I'd enjoy HSR more because I actually really like JRPGS/turn based combat but HSR's turn based combat is...basically the bare minimum and (like you said in the video) usually comes down to "Do you have the units for this? Cool, you win." WuWa combat is actually pretty fun, hopefully it stays fun/engaging in the long term. ZZZ combat looks fun, but considering I'm now 0/2 on quitting hoyo games, I don't have a lot of faith in them LOL

Bruh, it is honestly soul healing to hear your thoughts on HSR! I really couldn't agree more, even as a Genshin player and as someone who actually likes turn-based RPGs, I couldn't bring myself to keep playing it after a couple tries. Honestly, given the discourse about HSR on social media, it feels like the main reason it is popular is because it implements all the things Genshin Impact players ask for years, it's like Hoyoverse is doing the good cop/bad cop thing with the games in order to make HSR succeed.

Completely agree with the autolock on WuWa. People may scream skill issue at me but its so painful trying to do the hologram bosses in the game when they jump around and I cannot see them because the camera is ass and then I die from an attack that I cannot see coming. I realise learning and being able to predict movesets comes with experience, but the camera really makes me want to stop playing whenever Im repeatedly killed by attacks that I cannot begin to react to. The combat is great, the camera just makes it so frustrating, especially as well on ToA levels with multiple enemies which surround you. Grouping characters can get around this issue as they all come together, but I don't have Jiyan and don't enjoy the playstyle of grouping characters we have. I wish we could zoom out further when there are large groups so that I can see all of them and where attacks are coming from, because the tiny arrows at the edge of the screen are not good enough.

20:59 SO TRUEEE I skipped everything and got the same amount of information during that story quest. Watching you get the same dialogue but upside down or said backwards was wild. All while they’re telling us “time is of the essence”. It hurts me

I don't have Ruan May and I asked, in the official Help section Discord for Star Rail, for some advice to beat the most recently released boss because I get absolutely destroyed by him before I got him to even 3/4 health as he melts my fully upgraded team so fast. They tell me to use Fu Xuaen and Ruin Mei, which I don't have either of, and after mentioning that then the advice is that I should stop playing the game as I'm probably the worst player they've encountered. Why am I mentioning this? Because I can relate to 13:52 a lot and appreciate to see someone else feel the same about getting comments for not having every single 5-Star, especially the good ones. PS. I beat the boss later on by rolling for the newest character and Light Cone, got them both and won on my first attempt after leveling them up, quit the game _(HSR)_ right after for WuWa and FF14. _Not sure if I feel great to be allowed to see the story or bad that it's paywalled for newer players like me._

I think in the flurry of three whole game releases over a year or so we've gotten sidetracked from the reality that we really are living through a considerable drought in good modern Gacha gaming . Now the premier issue is funding, even despite Genshin's success these dev teams tend to not receive investments akin to triple A, but this is closely flanked by development time or rather catch up and the frankly low chance of them being good enough. I suppose there's more I want to say but I think this framing is so appropriate for those seemingly squeezing dry the two whole games we've gotten in 4 years (not including Genshin bc frick that dookie diaper dev team) that could neither expect to fill the void of both content for CCs and just stuff to do in game per update, especially against the expectation void, chasm if you will or backdrop of wanting so so sooo much more, albeit perhaps from multiple games. It's actually really sad that it took so long for this format to be uncovered (that is the open world RPG, modern cell shading, live action combat etc) and now we're all just fiending for more or better but we simply have to wait literal years.

Idk how anyone can be so hardcore over a gambling simulator, pretty fun game (I only play wuwa, my first gacha game ever), but it's literally just an RNG money sink if you want to get the strongest stuff, you can buy way better games (e.g: BG3, ER) or invest into other F2P games that respect your time and money much more (e.g: Warframe). I think it's mainly just because of the anime artstyle and the female characters for coomers (Understandable) that these are so popular for most, but I will admit that wuwa scratches my Dragons Dogma itch, so that's the only reason why I enjoy it, and I enjoy it casually.

Bro what the... I subbed precisely for your unapologetic unhinged takes. I don't always agree with them but they sure are entertaining af. We (I) clearly didn't show enough appreciation so the Twitter crazies could get to you to the point of saying "nah I'm good" but I actually like the "Yeah gimme all the smoke" style Hex Juice. If that isn't good for your mental, then do what you need to do, but just know your unfiltered personality is exactly why we're here and we want more😁😁

"Just use Ruan Mei" Me who keeps loosing 50/50 and has absolute aweful luck rolling for relics. As long as the enemy has no resistance to ice, I'll stick to my subpar Jingliu thank you very much. I left Star Rail on the Black Swan banner, got salty for not getting her by 1 pull, came back to Star Rail this patch for Firefly, I'm a bit overwhelmed with content. Been loving WuWa tbh, although I've found both Calcharo and Jiyan to be underwhelming compared to Encore unfortunately, the damage they deal is just lower. Probably a weapon/support/echo issue, especially for Jiyan since at least Yinlin helps Calcharo. And yeah. Gacha is a monetization system, not a game genre. I am filling a bit burned out in general but that's cause I have Nikke, Snowbreak, Wuwa and now Star Rail again as the gachas I'm playin.

I always love hearing your takes while I'm trying to pass time at work. Never change Hex!

thank you, this was really good video with clever and interesting opinion. I wanna say something about HSR. you were absolutely right about long story dialogs. what about the mirror and new mode - don't know, I suffered with them a lot. mostly because I didn't have the right characters, because I didn't want them (f. e. Imbibitor, or any other male tbh) or couldnt get them (Ruan Mei, Huo huo). I still clear everything in about 10 cycles (I mean cleared before I got Firefly and Ruan Mei, maybe they are broken but I didn't check them in MoC yet). the new endgame 'mirror'-like mode is literally something made for Firefly and break team, it was very hard for me when I was trying to do it without her. the point is, this game endgame is (or can be) hard when you have small amount of characters, or when you are a waifu/husbando gamer. I am the waifu gamer and crossing out all the male characters in the game make it harder. also even when you have a character, it can be not leveled (I rather mean 4* ones), so this also could be a problem when you suddenly need them at this exact MoC floor. well, I suppose you could disagree that endgame is hard... but this is my experience. tbh I would like to see if someone would do way better than me with the exact same pull of characters and relics which I had, and I would like to learn from that person how to do it. what about criticism towards the games - I think you are very right, but... well, criticism is good when it can change something - either the game itself, or your presence in this game. the first thing is improbable, and the second one - I like the game in general and don't want to quit it. it has good amount of pulls per patch (well, it also have 2 new female characters per patch sadly) and it takes a very small amount of time, and it gets some QoL updates from time to time. so maybe it would be better for me to wear the pink glasses, and to close my eyes to all what I don't like in the game to make my experience of it smoother? it's not even an opinion, it's rather a philosophical question, I don't know an answer to it.

6:55 For sure. 1.1 dialogue in wuwa was really really large, you get these massive exposition dialogues with things that can be summarized rather briefly. I just sat through it all because the cutscene visuals and closing in on faces were amazing. Changli talks, I listen.

*Epic music in the background* *HexJuice comes out of the dark* "It’s time to come clean" 😎

Yeah NGL, as someone who came from playing pro/ ex pro players and streamers in Call of Duty 24/7 & who didn’t hear about HSR until Acheron’s banner Hex absolutely COOKED in this video. Not tryna glaze here but I agree 100% with her.

I completely understand what you meant with Ruin Mei! I didn’t have her until this last patch and it’s like night and day playing with her. It’s kinda crazy lol

Overall I think HSR has a good story especially in Penacony and Belobog, but I agree that the presentation could be much better. It's one of the things I'm looking forward to in ZZZ. No clue if the story itself will be good but the way they present it looks like a much needed improvement.

The auto-lock feature is a systemic problem even in Genshin as well, and it's due to the game being on mobile. From what I have read/been told, If there wasn't a auto-lock for mobile games, they would be near unplayable because you can't orient as easily as with a mouse and keyboard. People have complained about this since the initial release of Venti in Genshin as you can't aim his black hole ult for example.

The best gacha game history is The Battle cats; cats conquering the world! Even the future?!?

Damn, I didn't expect this video to be that good! Thank you for speaking your mind.

I completely agree on all your points, this video really shows your sincerity. I love Wuwa but do feel like the community is filled with toxic positivity for the game I do wonder if it's bc of PGR having a similar start with lots of problems and really mediocre story, so everyone that plays PGR (and a lot of Wuwa players do, myself included) have that huge expectation for the game. Outside of that, yeah I want to see Wuwa being its own thing rather than following on Genshin footprints, best way for that? idk, combat is definitely something they can lean on but that might scare away the more casual fanbase that might prefer a Genshin-like, story can be darker and don't think anyone would complain really.

Beautifully explained!!!👏🏿👏🏿👏🏿 I'm hope there's an army of us who share your sentiments! And just like you don't feel like battling ignorance online because we have real-life problems to deal with! You have my sub, and I wish you a blessed life! Thank you for being true to yourself! 💯💪🏿🤘🏿

For the most part I agree with you on the story aspects of most of these games. I can admit that the lore for a lot of these games are pretty good but the storytelling is always so drawn out, lacks action/combat besides 1 to 3 fights per ACT (which is kinda insane imo) and as someone who usually plays tales of games religiously I'm a little disappointed because those games in my opinion do their storytelling really really well I always feel like I'm apart of the world in a sense the enemies are really challenging if you don't know the basics of the combat and I just love how the characters interact with each other and their dynamics it feels alive (not to mention most interactions are completely optional and not apart of the main story so you get to choose if you wanna see all that) hsr I do agree that with certain units you just speedrun the game which makes people feel like they're so much better than others (e2 firefly and e1 ruan mei haver here) the game is already losing a big portion of it's appeal ever since I got these two cause I just feel immortal and I 0 to 3 cycle all content. ZZZ even though it's not out yet just looks like honkai impact 3rd with parrying the enemies lack motion and the characters have the same flashy animations and brainless combo attacks and I already feel so disinterested and I won't act like wuwa doesn't have it's own set of issues but at least I can mald during the holograms and fully exert myself but the story I do find myself falling asleep during most of the time. Overall I think gacha games are good to have as a SIDE game but if you find yourself only playing 3 to 5 gacha games at the same time and nothing more I think you're just addicted and it's an unhealthy habit without a doubt

as someone who only watches your youtube videos i find this really nice i like when streamers are themselves and not trying to be someone else i understand your point about gacha games and kinda understand what you are always looking for(?) in any case you should really try nikke maybe you don't like visual novels but man i just feel like nikke goes with your personality 👍

Ruan mei is busted?....i only started using her when Firefly came out, Shes just been sitting in my "Fuck you till later" box with majority of my 4 stars

Feels like every content creator reaches this boiling point and realization in their career. Continue to speak your mind and do what works for you. Catering to the masses never works.

No problems for me. I like you as you are. I think your cool and you are my evening entertainment. I used to let what strangers think of me bother me even when I try to not let it. However the older I get the easier it is to just let that go. Keep on what you are doing.

Hex I just started a RU-vid channel where I will cover gacha stuff. I’ve been sitting on it for a long time. This is something I’m kinda worried about, because I’m on the same page as you. I’ve got takes, and sometimes they might be right, sometimes they might be wrong. But at the end of the day they’re just takes. It’s not a big deal and I don’t plan to not say shit just for fear of backlash. But the tribalism is so stupid.

I rate your nuclear take as _Depleted Uranium_ It's self contained, out of the way, and doesn't hurt anyone, but somebody will find a reason to be mad about it anyway.

hey hex newbie here idk you or your channel much but i thought someone should say its fine to take a rest if your feeling the burnout and i like what I've seen of your character so take care

As a Chixia main I agree with the auto-lock criticisms in WuWa. I have no idea what their system is doing, but I genuinely don't understand why the auto-target doesn't just pick the closest enemy. Any potential annoyance from switching targets while multiple enemies are moving around would be more than made up for by no longer randomly targeting enemies that are behind the character off-camera and sometimes not even aggroed yet. Maybe I've just gotten used to how Genshin Impact auto-targetting works because I remember it also being really frustrating early on, but at least I feel like I can reset Yoimiya's target by changing my position and facing. I prefer WuWa's combat overall even with the worse auto-targetting, but this is definitely a big issue with combat in WuWa. (Aside: I always thought fire was the most boring element in video games and I preferred melee to ranged generally. Now I main Chixia and Yoimiya. What the hell has gacha done to my brain?)

Hello, i pretty much learned about you today as one of the raiders with Elara. I have to say you've become my favorite content creator with this video. It feels real and that it came from the heart. I'm not sure if i agree with everything you expressed, but that's fine. Your POV and experiences, your life. something all should respect. if one don't like it, one should learn to respect and move along and go play the games they enjoy for their own reasons. In any case, i hope i'm able to join your streams in the future and if not, i'll be checking your uploads here and give my own ramblings while respecting boundaries. Pretty much, you're based and poggers (did i use those terms right? i'm a dinosaur XD) for doing you and i wish you success in the vtuber world or whatever you decide to do in the future should you ever graduate I hope i managed to express myself in a positive supporting way, am not used to leaving comments which says a lot on what i think of this one. Hopefully future ones will inspire me to write some more in the future ^_^

I fell off of hsr a while back because of the gameplay. I hope wuwa improves more, my main issues left are the optimization and that I just don't really find tower of adversity that interesting. I keep it at the end of my daily rotation of 4 gacha games. I find your takes agreeable.

As someone who's first Gacha game was HSR in 2.1 and have been having fun. I will agree the dialog bloat is a bit of a problem but I think playing old JRPGS especially during the PS2 days I'm mostly numb to it. Hell in some anime characters will just talk about the same damn thing for 10mins to me I've always understood this as a weird quirk of JP writing exposition but I guess that extends to CN now too.

well mostly agree with u, who cares what people say in the intetnet, if they agree with your opinion great, if its not its their problem. I like watching u because u have strong opinions, which several of that i can be disagree, but it mostly preferences than real facts.

Been 2 months. Went trough 100+ hours of just yappin in PGR so far since I started. The best 10/10 yappin I've seen in gaming. PGR story is just mins blowingly good.

I spent months waiting on Ruan Mei, being told I NEED Ruan Mei over and over...beat everything without Ruan Mei because it's really not hard, but was convinced I needed her anyway. Finally got Ruan Mei on this re-run, just in time to be completely bored with the game lol. I agree, I stopped playing because I am so tired of the long, unskippable story. I think people take this game way too seriously.

Hot take: I agree with everything you said. I'm happy that finally someone talk about the bloated dialogue in HSR. It's the only gacha that the dialogue is so bloated that I play the story at the background while I do other things (can't skip the dialogue before they finish half or more of the sentence make it worse). Also the tribalism in gacha community just keep getting worse. The WuWa community does not realize that they are becoming Genshin community 2.0

Nuclear Take Rating: Based as Fuck I love listening to your opinion on things in general but the sorta down-to-earth/realistic takes you make are just a joy to listen to. There’s so much brainrot in literally all video game communities so it’s lovely to see someone with a few feet in the real world. Tbh I’ll be watching literally anything you’d like to talk about live or otherwise lol. 💜 Also, every time I finish watching your vids I always jam out to the outro music bro that shit is fire.

I'm a fan of Genshin Impact, and after watching your video, I gained a lot of respect for you. I've seen a few of your videos, and sometimes it feels like you are being condescending and provoking conflict, especially when Genshin Impact is mentioned in most of your titles or icons, even when it's not related to the content of the videos. It seems like you are taking advantage of the tribalism around the game for profit, even though you claim you're not. A common issue with gacha game creators, not just you, is the belief that being right is enough to convey their message. Only the people you'll be preaching to are the ones who already agree with you. But if you're going to call someone a mint picker, demeaning them, then don't be surprised that these people will tune you out. I like to see content creators who can be a force for change, but the way it's being handled will never work Again, it's not a personal attack on you. I do think you like the game's to be better, but the content creators need to be better. If you want change, you can't be at war with the community. It's important to understand we all enjoy these games for different reasons, and your issues aren't the same as theirs. So don't be mad at them, try to understand them.

One takeaway from this video: *It ain't that deep*

I think that the biggest problem with story gachas is that they often write themselves in ways where its better for you to read each part separately from time to time , and often they make it so they are very interacted with and detailed to make sure people aren't missing something or so they can glaze even more on their favorite character . Like I get exhausted from doing a non stop story section in HSR but usually when I have some breaks it feels much better which makes sense for a side game when you think about it (specially with how little time chinese people tend to have due how much they work) . Though the real reason is thatt they probably need to meet a certain quota to compensate for the players since there will be alot of downtime between updates which tbh I don't think it compensates at all and to me its fine for a game to have its downtimes and have a short story aslong as its fun. Tho i didn't feel like Wuwa 1.1 story was really bloated, i thought it was too short but i'm the type of person that don't mind those unless its bloated af like genshin so thats just me HSR having characters being busted on their release is to be expected, and to be fair i think its best for them to be like that and slowly be weaker in the content in certain parts, but not all of it, cause it's better to have a good character than a bad character (Dehya incident ) , the tendency in those type of gachas is that people that have bigger pools and most characters will really have the game easier and yeah it may feel like theres no point in using other characters if they aren't better than them but i think that the beauty in HSR is not it being a exact skill based game and rather a Strategy Team Building game because the way how you build your team is whats the most important factor ,theres alot of teams that are incredible even in Apocalyptic Shadow that so many people think that you need the new characters to be able to build, like how you can make a Hybrid Himeko team to butcher Argenti or use monoquantum for Cocolia, alot of character became rejuvenated , while the strong ones kept strong, you can check Prydwen for those, Iyo also made a video for these. I think that the new mechanics are ok,and expanding further the mechanics in SU are a good idea specially since it has optional modifiers and makes it more fresh, you only need 1 run to start doing auto relics each week (Which you will do since the weekly SU rewards exists) HSR is fun for people that want to have a nice side game and have plenty of built teams to try them out and see them work ,even old ones but in a different manners ,making the game more break focused helps with that, but if you want to just have one team or if you have a limited roster yeah it can be a pain in the ass specially with artifacts farming, if they were easier to farm we would have more reason to make those teams. Btw the camera auto lock on Wuwa redirects you to the nearest target to you based on what direction you are trying to move, so like if you press forward while attacking, you will hit the nearest one in that direction, hope that helps. Great video Hex, all of your points are valid and unfortunely the whole people getting mad with opinions is something that is becoming more common in the internet, not just in gacha and it reaaally sucks

I honestly agree with all your HSR takes lol. Even about Ratio, I like the character but I gotta admit, if I didn't pull for Aventurine, I won't really have fun playing him and even then I still replaced him with Jing Yuan which is also not the best dps in the game but somehow I still find JY more fun than him. And the RM take too -- so relatable lol. 👌

I also read the whole twilight series. I'm not proud of it. But I did it and I enjoyed it.

I think you are fine with your thoughts. Everyone has their own thought. The problem with internet is that there's no filter and it reaches way wider people compare to the old days which make it more noisy. We just have to learn to agree to disagree. You are entertaining with your own ways so keep it up.

the tribalism, no nuanced takes, etc., is definitely somethin ive noticed with WuWa being my first open world gacha and its really weird. Never really seen anything like it in the other gachas ive played? Possibly bc a lot of younger kids got into gacha with GI and they obsess over certain content creators and take everything they say as 100% true. Idk it is weird tho, you should be able to criticize games, whether u like em or not!

The reason people seem to take it so seriously is they seem to view their time and money spent as an investment, so they become obsessed with it being the best to make their “investment” valuable

Dude about that feeling of tiredness coz of those extremely (sometimes unbearable) long dialogues, I totally feel that!! Whenever I used to play Genshin or grind through those side stories in hsr, I would play for about 10 min without being tired at most. But after that, I would feel so sleepy and I lowkey would put the dialogue on auto and do something else coz I cannot stand those😭😭

I think a lot of the dialogue issues can be attributed to the fact that it wasn't written in English, the same as old martial arts films. Maybe they could have done a better job but I don't think it's that deep.

Don't have the best units in a team Don't have good rolls on gears Don't have luck Game isn't skill related,just letting the brain work When you can't make everything work in the list above= Skill Issue

My hot take on Wuwa 1.1 is that I hate the amount of times i had to switch out a unit for chixia to get bells/chimes

I don't know who you are as this is my first time seeing you but I agree with a lot of your takes. Morally speaking I am very against gambling in any shape or form and I also dislike FOMO practices. (Fear of Missing Out) These include limited time events and daily systems that reward you for getting on consistently which makes playing the game a habit and humans are habitual so it's psychological and physical manipulation. I've never spent money on gacha games but many end up with lackluster characters (caricatures), un-engaging stories/role play elements, fanservice that doesn't help the narrative and bloated story elements due to not being to the point or wanting to add too much words that end up making it boring. Some games also have bare bones and basic stories so they end up too short and not detailed so the writers generally don't do a good job. Gameplay elements remove skill expression due to being stat heavy and powercreep being an issue. RNG is by default going to remove skill expression when gaining characters. I could go on but these are my general complaints. I recommend people to never try or support Gacha games due to their inherently predatory practices. I am very bias and am also a MiHoYo hater and they've copied/recreated movesets from some of my favorite series so I have extra personal incentive to hate on them arbitrarily. I won't bash at the community because obviously not everyone will defend the game, I think everyone should share their opinion but know that not everyone should have to agree. Personally I also dislike how intrusive the anti-cheat is. No game should be intrusive. I also wonder how that one chinese politician is doing that wanted to go after fomo pratices in gaming...... I'm assuming the economy is heavily reliant on gacha games at this point over there and maybe in Japan too.

SUPER OMEGA GIGA INSANE NUCLEAR BASED

This is why I don’t really associate or have anything to do with the communities of games I play and I just kind of enjoy them on their own merits. A lot of people are kind of crazy and obsessive and can’t take criticism so I generally just try not to engage, I’ll watch the content creators. I like talk about things but other than that I don’t really have anything to do with the communities so I don’t have to deal with all the bullshit.

Man, I feel like I was talking to a wall when I said there's not much difference between HSR and Genshin. I genuinely think that a majority of HSR players are very, very high on the 10 free pulls per patch that they have nothing to do for. HSR's story lost me super early on with a fuck ton of exposition dumping, which I haven't really seen anyone talk about, while that was a very prominent critique for WuWa. HSR much like Genshin has no skip button, but for some reason, makes me sit through HOURS of story before I can play an event. Lowkey, Genshin did this once in Fontaine, with a 30 minute world quest, and people were LIVID. People will say they quit Genshin because they find the combat boring, which honestly fair, but then turn around and glaze a game where your combat is auto battling. HSR vs Genshin Anniversary? "Wooooh, 30 pulls, Genshin could never!!!" Without realising it's actually just 20 pulls more than usual, which is the same amount Genshin hands out, albeit spread across two big celebrations, Anniversary and Lantern Rite, the latter of which, HSR doesn't have. "Genshin has no content, Genshin's dialogue is bloated, Genshin's combat is boring, why does Genshin not have a skip button", are ALL things that apply to HSR too. And I refuse to count new endgame that's also just an auto battle sim new content. I mean, I can emphasize with the frustration people have with Genshin atm, especially when they're 1.0 players, even if I, as a 3.0 beginner, don't feel it nearly as bad. But I don't understand how people can then turn around, look at HSR and praise it high into the sky, when it's the same shit but with a bow tie on top.

I played HSR in the beginning but as a veteran Epic Seven player (who reached Legend in arena, the top 100 players globally), i instantly saw how easy this game was for a turn based RPG and i quit after getting silver wolf... You don't need to think at all if your builds are good. In Epic Seven, even with my fully maxed limited or moonlight characters, i can't do the last floors of the abyss because i don't know how, you need such a specific and different strategy for every floor which can be achieve with a ton of characters but i literally don't feel like... "thinking" and rebuilding my teams for that, and i'm not saying this is bad, i'm saying that this content is SO HARD that needs this kind of thing even for a player like me, which is a good way to keep you interested in the game. The overall PVP of the game is so incredible complex that you'll never feel bored, every win feels amazing because you'll need to overcome the opponent strategy with a better one. Genshin and Wuwa are what i commented in the Jinhsi story cutscene... Comparing WuWa to Genshin is a offense to WuWa, but this doesn't mean WuWa don't have problems. I love the game but i think i've never had so much frustration and rage in any other game besides this one, and i use to play League of Legends before you know 💀👺. Overall, being critical about something will almost always be a good thing, people who blindly like something because someone told them to like it is not someone you can trust, and these kind of people usually can't take criticism right either, so for me you just divided your community with this video, keeping the good and reasonable people and sent the stubborn kids way, which i think is a good move in my opinion. I'm hoping of the best for you as always 😉

I agree with you Hex, it is fine to use ur brain even if u like a game, no need to be go down to the braindead lvl and chant bs, out of fanatism.

I agree with everything you said. I'm still playing SR but it's starting to get very stale. I love WUWA but I expect it to end up in the same state sadly. I hope it won't but I guess we will have to wait and see. Gotchas in general are just getting old for me and I need to play more non gotcha games. The Elden Ring DLC is a Masterpiece and I'm hyped for Black Wukong in August.

To me, WuWa and HSR are pretty fun games that give me something to do when nothing else is going on. But the second Elden Ring DLC and Dawntrail came out, these games were instantly put on the back burner. I still haven't done 1.1 or 2.3 yet. Now I just hammer out my dalies while I'm at work, but if I'm home with PC access, I'm not spending time on mobile games lol. And it's due to the fact that even the best gacha games are still a 7/8 out of 10 games at best. I think there is potential for great storytelling in video games, because the payoffs can be amazing due to the interactivity of gameplay, and the cinematic nature of the set pieces. However, very few games have managed to find interesting ways to build up to those payoffs, and it tends to be a lot of exposition and info dumps. And then games that manage to do a phenomenal job on the buildup, often drop the ball on the payoff (looking at you Mass Effect.)

So I've unsubscribed 3days ago but after watching this video , I can say that I was brainwashed and U literally woke me up. Now I'm subscribed and can say that ure takes are actually really good . Really good video,keep it up and I hope ure takes reach more people in order to help them to awake from the manipulation that is gacha as it did to me. Thank you❤!

Gacha storytelling is unforgivably bad. Such interesting worlds and characters ruined by the laziest and most insulting delivery ever. It’s honestly sad to see the wasted potential.

Very satisfying take. My satisfaction levels are 100%.

This was a refreshing video. My honest nuclear take level was 3/10 but that might be because I agree with all of it LOL. I will say- this video reminded me why I love Arknights so much and why it's the only gacha I've consistently kept playing. (Definitely insanely dialogue heavy though). But the community is so great, it's challenging, and with so many characters there's always a more fun way to play. Nicheknights is such a win. I've literally paid money to pull for a meh character just to do a nicheknights clear of an event. I feel like the biggest mainstream gacha games get boring so fast 🤷‍♂️ and grinding for relics is not end-game. 0 games with a relic system stays fun for me. Like it's such an unsatisfying retention tactic that has almost no payout. Just let me Gacha a character that's full built and make game challenging instead of making me waste time doing mindless grinding while people shout at me about what's right and wrong

Yes, if you're new player to GI, there're quest, chest, freemogems to spend daily. The longer you played, the less things to do. The map maybe large but it's empty. Endgame contents which are monthly now became too ez to one run. No quest to do( actually i don't like spending 2 3h listening to npc yapping for 60 gems), nothing to explore, no freemogems to spend on new banner which i don't even need to clear new contents. And they completely abandoned Eula, the one and only user of physic goblet :( That one is overbearing for me.

3:32 right, this is also what i felt the first time i decided to interact on genshin's community after playing it a whole year without seeing the community, i noped the heck out immediately when i realized that. it's so bizzare for me to just say one word and someone would come at me like i unalived someone dear to them, or i'll just criticize some things in the game that is based on standard of games that i saw for 15 years of gaming, then they'll say the most *oh what a poor child who got mistreated by this game and got brainwashed to defend them* comment. Like have these poor souls played anything other than gacha games?

Thank you for saying all the things you said. I agree with your points (on the game's I've played). We need more lucidity, it's good to be honest.

I can't get over the fact that I didn't hear "satisfaction" when she said the combat in Wuwa is satisfying.

An excellent turn-based mobile RPG I found was Octopath Traveler Champions of the Continent. The story is good; it is F2P friendly, it has very nice and hard End Game content, the combat is eight units party-based, and it is a single-player game. I don't know if that is your cup of tea, but you could try it out and see if you like it or not.

It honestly was sad to hear doing this video took it out of you. You didn't say that but you just sounded more exhausted by the end. Hope you take some time for yourself, i know I'll be sticking around for more content.

Started WuWa and PGR almost at the same exact time and the combination of those two games shocked me out of my Hoyo phase. Now I actually feel really awful just trying to play them. HSR is quickly devolving into Genshin tier yapping and it's an auto battler at this point with zero interactions for the player in combat. Really can't get past even the latest MSQ with the Yappin from Topaz.

Gacha War is the Console War sequel we never wanted.

when it comes with star rail, as one thing i can directly say because i started in 2.1, star rail has a 5 star problem of to many directly game changing mechanics are 5 star. for one the amount of 5 stars is currently 29 vs the 21 4 stars, plus 3 trailblaze. some outright in terms of power vary much barly feel like a 5 star, like now that we are getting chars that can implant their own weakness, silverwolf outside of vary specific teams like mono quantum feels like a 4 star unit comparitivly. and ruan mei is also another example, a easy 4 star that can exist is a single target break efficency that doesnt really need much else to exist vs ruan meis team wide, well also having a dmg boost. and ruan mei changes accounts.

... So I learned that I SHOULD pull for Ruan Mei! We love an easy button.

I think the fact that some people stuck with Genshin, and added Honkai to their to-do list. Now Wuthering waves and we literally have Zenless Zone Zero right around the corner, I don't see how anyone in this position wouldn't feel burn out. I personality NEVER found Genshin fun after understanding what I was playing (I played a ton because it was new and exciting). Honkai was one of those titles that felt like you reached the endgame but there was no endgame and you were just logging in to just log in so I stopped playing, they probably updated the game a ton since I played but the fomo of missing so many days just made me never go back. I kind of want to go back but missing out on basically so many resources I could NEVER go back. I think Zenless Zone Zero isn't going to be for me based on the art style and what i've seen so far, Wuthering waves is the first game I kind of like a lot and want to play for now. I think until we get a single player experience from a gacha that doesn't make money the primary way of getting stronger, Like Imagine Wuthering waves but you could earn Astrite in game and there was no option to give the money, or remove the waveplates/energy system so you could grind forever. We'll never truly be able to enjoy these games long term. The only reason why people stick around these games is because the game is time gated and you want to have that feeling of I stuck around x amount of days and I was there for this character or banner ETC. The feeling of worth or the feeling of community and being a part of something is why these games stay in the lime light for so long. The shell of the game is turning a month long grind into a 2+ year waiting game with daily and weekly caps.

It was refreshing to hear this from a content creator. Especially about the gacha stories. So many people seem to like them, but for me I find most of them boring other then a few exceptions.

I’m so glad to hear your take! I agree with almost all the points, thanks for keeping it real!

I think most of the opinions expressed here are valid. Don’t really have much else to say but that. I myself am a Gacha enjoyer and I still play Genshin to this day but I’ve always been aware of the criticisms about it and every other game. Here’s hoping that ZZZ will be a more enjoyable experience for me.

None of the takes were crazy, they're just reasonable opinions from a balanced person. Hopefully you don't have a hoard of 12 year olds coming to defend their precious companies and waifus.

I love video games but hate Gatcha monetization.

Hex, the answer to why the plot repeats itself 5 times was in the other complaints, Gatcha players direly need it lol.

people doing people things, obliviously becoming what they hate and claim to stand against over time...