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Tonight we're discussing a controversial subject regarding the current music industry and the Eagles!
TIME STAMPS -
0:00 Intro
2:47 Auto-tuned Vocal
4:44 Actual Live Vocal
8:25 My Issue with Auto-Tune
10:55 The Point
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@pilroberts6185
@pilroberts6185 Год назад
Every record destroyed or falsified Every book rewritten Every picture repainted Every statue, street & building renamed Every date altered Continuous day by day minute by minute. History stopped. There’s nothing but a present with the Party being always right. -G. Orwell, 1984
@ginnyvogel7754
@ginnyvogel7754 Год назад
I was just thinking of this! Funny/frightening how that old book is so prescient!
@IMeMineWho
@IMeMineWho Год назад
Kali yuga..the Bhavagita!
@TheFtm22
@TheFtm22 Год назад
Indeed
@stevepick9527
@stevepick9527 Год назад
Amen to that… they really are literally rewriting history and erasing much of it.
@TheRealDrJoey
@TheRealDrJoey Год назад
Chills.
@paulm749
@paulm749 Год назад
This is an outrage as they are desecrating Randy's legacy. Thank you for calling it out.
@IMeMineWho
@IMeMineWho Год назад
They know no better.
@tomholm4456
@tomholm4456 Год назад
@@IMeMineWho in a gross understatement, precisely. yes.
@matcoffidis1135
@matcoffidis1135 Год назад
You beat me to it. I wonder who decided on this travesty? It's effin disgusting....
@Stacey721
@Stacey721 Год назад
It is outrageous. I want to cry that "technology" is destroying natural authentic talent. 😢
@UberLummox
@UberLummox Год назад
Who cares. It never happens to music that's actually cool. Just stuff like this that you've heard so goddam many times before that you never need or want to hear it again. Adult contemporary lite rock was always destined to become this. They just made it even more palatable for the audience it was intended for all along. Background music for doctor's offices.
@roncypert8255
@roncypert8255 Год назад
As someone who saw Eagles live on several occasions in the 1970s, I assure you, there was not one member of the group or the group in full harmony whose voice(s) needed to be auto tuned or pitch corrected. They were one of the few bands that played and sang with the same precision live as they did in the studio. Thank goodness I have hundreds of the original vinyl albums as they were recorded back then.
@pihermoso11
@pihermoso11 4 месяца назад
Hell Freezes Over was the best rock live album that came out of the 90s, and I was surprised that everyone on the band could sing, even the bassist Timothy was lead vocals for Love Will Keep Us Alive
@user-js7ek9oh3p
@user-js7ek9oh3p 16 дней назад
Ahh... Maybe they were lip-synching when pretending to be playing 'Live'..??
@ChuckWortman
@ChuckWortman Год назад
The more I listen to music from the 70s, the more I am convinced that there was no better decade in the history of music.
@JohnDavis-xk5fi
@JohnDavis-xk5fi Год назад
You need to listen to more 60s music. It has the greatest music of all time.
@alanbenatar1120
@alanbenatar1120 Год назад
@@JohnDavis-xk5fi You need to listen to more 50s music 😀
@JohnDavis-xk5fi
@JohnDavis-xk5fi Год назад
@alanbenatar1120 I've heard plenty of endlessly banal and boring 50s music. As George Harrison said, "The Beatles saved the world from boredom."
@rome8180
@rome8180 Год назад
@@JohnDavis-xk5fi Nah, the '70s were better. You had all the genres from the '60s plus a ton of new developing genres. The '70s simultaneously had folk, early heavy metal, classic rock, prog rock, soul, funk, R&B, early punk, psychedelia, disco, etc. The '60s paved the way for it, but the '70s were the time period when you truly had the most complex and ambitious popular music ever made. Think about having a song like "Sir Duke" getting airplay at the same time as the music of Rush, Black Sabbath, and Pink Floyd.
@jeffreese1828
@jeffreese1828 Год назад
​@rome8180 If someone was to twist my arm way up behind my back , I would be forced to agree with you . 100% . No matter which genre of music one likes , the 70's were a MONSTER decade . Practically the entire catalogs of the original Sabbath , Led Zeppelin , Yes , the best Pink Floyd stuff . The Eagles . However I would be loath to lose the 60's , with all The Who , Stones , Hendrix , and The Beatles , CSN+Y, and even the POP music was , in the main , damn good . And what about those 90's , huh ? Little band I think is great , name of Tool , emerged . Doubtless there is at least some good stuff in every decade....but we were talking QUANTITY AND QUALITY , so I think the 70s , then 60's , rule . .........70s also had all the best ZZ Top , Deep Purple , Foghat , Kiss , AND The Who , The Stones , the Kinks , etc , etc , so on and so forth . Cheers !
@PaulRubino
@PaulRubino Год назад
Music publishers should somehow be required to re-label re-releases as having been autotuned.
@IMeMineWho
@IMeMineWho Год назад
It is the producers that are the culprits.
@TheRealDrJoey
@TheRealDrJoey Год назад
I really think copyright law ought to be amended to outlaw autotuned versions and these dreadful "re-mastered" versions of recordings without the express written consent of the copyright holders or their heirs.
@TeemarkConvair
@TeemarkConvair Год назад
it's always about Label $$ just mark it "REMASTERED" Kaa-Chingggg!!
@gymratt42
@gymratt42 Год назад
Every re master I’ve listened to sounded like shot compared to the original. I hope people don’t buy re-masters so this lunacy stops.
@thesonnytackettshow7949
@thesonnytackettshow7949 Год назад
I shy away from the so-called "remastered" ones. They display that like it's a huge plus. I preferred the old masters, I'm still very choosy about who I get to master a session.
@russdrummond7292
@russdrummond7292 Год назад
I’m with you Fil. Auto-tuning of original music must die. We are humans, not machines.
@janedmunds4218
@janedmunds4218 Год назад
Auto tune does take the life out of it, doesn't it? Boo!
@firewfire
@firewfire Год назад
Everything is fake af nowadays, zero talent, I prefer the genuine version any day
@taniacummings9207
@taniacummings9207 Год назад
At the moment. That's not what Klaus and Yuval have planned for humanity long term. Remember what Yuval said, "Man is a hackable animal."
@stevepaige7557
@stevepaige7557 Год назад
@@taniacummings9207 And so are his vocals.
@stevepaige7557
@stevepaige7557 Год назад
@@taniacummings9207 But seriously...standby for the great culling of humanity as those 2 (and those that are under their spell) weed out the herd.
@jasonl1942
@jasonl1942 Год назад
This is why ive ALWAYS bought physical media. I can always go back and listen to an original performance, watch an uncensored movie, and enjoy it. People called me crazy when i didnt abandon my hard copies in the wake of the digital streaming era. Theyre learning fast that i was right. Again...
@cynn3367
@cynn3367 4 месяца назад
Absolutely the truth. And the frightening part of this is that with digital you might never even realize that the music you are hearing or the book you are reading is not the original version. And so reality is changed and people are manipulated without knowing it.
@Luna-yf3wx
@Luna-yf3wx 6 месяцев назад
I’m not a musician, and I can’t carry a tune, but I can identify auto tune and pitch corrected music right away; it makes me irritable. I don’t see the point of listening to it. I want to hear REAL music, even if it’s flawed a little. I’m so glad you’re making these videos.
@trekkiejunk
@trekkiejunk 4 месяца назад
If i'm in the mood for some Daft Punk or something electronic, i'm totally fine with it. But for jazz, classic rock, and anything released prior to pitch correction technology, then i'm also a purist.
@davidcohencrumpton9884
@davidcohencrumpton9884 Год назад
I'm a singer and I mind it. I can't stand auto tunne or pitch correction. I produce my own music. Randy had a perfect voice. They flattened his voice out. Auto tune kills a singer style to me.
@adamwatson6916
@adamwatson6916 Год назад
If they tried to auto tune Joe Walsh the machine would self destruct. I do love Joe's vocals though
@CO2isfake
@CO2isfake Год назад
It takes all the personal touches out of the song. It’s not good at all.
@michellemachet-philip2801
@michellemachet-philip2801 4 месяца назад
No voice like Randy's.
@bramford7e
@bramford7e Год назад
The Eagles were hardcore perfectionists. Especially when it came to vocals and harmonies. The original vocals sounded great to me. If it ain't broke, don't fix it.
@broeheemed32
@broeheemed32 Год назад
Don Henley and Glenn Frey were the perfectionists. They would explode at Joe Walsh and especially at Don Felder if he deviated from the "studio arrangement" even ONE NOTE on a song when playing live. They were absolute control freaks, where the others wanted to play it looser and change it up for the "live" experience for the audience. To me, a note-for-note live performance is stale and boring..... we already have the records.
@jimw.4161
@jimw.4161 Год назад
Exactly! 👍
@jamesthecat
@jamesthecat Год назад
​@@broeheemed32Interesting. I wonder what that would translate into today. There are some bands that pride themselves on being tight, and even wanting to reproduce the studio sound live by (for example) using fractals instead of mic'd amps, as Metallica does. However, within that, Kirk Hammett loves to improvise when he plays guitar live.
@HocusPocus6969
@HocusPocus6969 Год назад
Its rock music, not a science experiment, its not supposed to be “perfect”. The imperfections make it great.
@Sunny-jz3dy
@Sunny-jz3dy Год назад
Facts!
@laurajarrell6187
@laurajarrell6187 Год назад
Fil, I so agree! They are greats because of their natural voices! It's like painting over gold! 👍💖💙🥰✌
@juliajones1425
@juliajones1425 Год назад
In my younger days, we referred to a TV commercial “Is it live or is it Memorex?” when people faked music, lip syncing at the time. I want to see up front disclaimers or warnings on auto tuned and pitch corrected music. It should be illegal, some form of false advertising or misrepresentation. At the very least it’s unethical.
@lynneg8874
@lynneg8874 Год назад
At 68 years old, I am so thankful that I have kept my collection of original albums from the 60s and 70s. I get to hear all the greats as they sang perfectly back then without being messed with.
@MrVvulf
@MrVvulf Год назад
Original Nat King Cole - "Unforgettable" Pitch corrected NKC - "Forgettable".
@imlistening1137
@imlistening1137 Год назад
I am heartbroken every time I think about the wonderful collection of albums I sold in the mid-90s.
@lynneg8874
@lynneg8874 Год назад
@@imlistening1137 I'm so sad for you. So hard to replace nowadays. 😪
@lr8607
@lr8607 Год назад
Still have my collection but nothing on which to play them, sadly.
@MisterTMH
@MisterTMH Год назад
Unforgivable!@@MrVvulf
@alanjohnston3936
@alanjohnston3936 Год назад
The Eagles had a very skilled ensemble of musicians who were extremely talented singers.This seems a desecration of their abilities to coalesce as a harmony group. Absurd application of technology where it wasn't needed. It degrades, not improves the sound. Good onya Fil for this analysis!
@gregusmc2868
@gregusmc2868 Год назад
Exactly. Can’t wait to hear the auto tuned version of the a cappella ‘Seven Bridges Road!’ 🙄
@1msbucket
@1msbucket Год назад
Absolutely!
@mikekloepfer7424
@mikekloepfer7424 Год назад
OmG. They're killing the music I grew up with. The fact which you point to... it didn't need pitch correction! The vocal was already spectacular. All they did was squash the humanity out of the performance. I do appreciate you bringing this to the attention of music listeners. If left unchecked, the world will eventually not even know what real vocals sound like, and by extension, we won't appreciate those who can sing really well on their own. That is a sad thought.
@DasIllu
@DasIllu 10 месяцев назад
I had a thing for the band Within Temptation some 20 years ago. I first heard "Ice Queen" and i really liked it. Then they did a cover version of "Running up that hill" I got my hands on the single and there was a live track. It featured heavily detuned guitars and a vocalist out of her breath. You know, something you'd hear from a band that was performing for two hours and is hitting their limits. And i loved it more than any radio edit. It was raw, it sounded exhausted, the opposite of clean and tidy. It was messy and so human. Autotune is nothing short of taking humanity out of the equation. Emotions have to be automated. Humanity needs to be optimized. Brave new world.
@revgurley
@revgurley Год назад
This makes me so sad. Freddie autotuned/pitch corrected? Who is next? Prince? Michael Jackson? Whitney Houston? Aretha?!? All beautiful voices that don't need any "help."
@mikevandenboom5958
@mikevandenboom5958 Год назад
They better do Celine Dion and Barbara Strisand and Steve Perry the whole world knows they cant sing. Right? WTF!
@stephenward7856
@stephenward7856 Год назад
Tbh disappointed that Brian and Roger allow it to happen :(
@MrVvulf
@MrVvulf Год назад
@@g.garcia7151 My father saw Ella in Berlin twice (she visited quite a few times in the 1960s). I can't imagine how pissed off he'd be if I told him they might "pitch correct" her. He also sang in his HS choir with Johnny Mathis. Maybe "Misty" or "Chances Are" will be autotuned too...
@MrVvulf
@MrVvulf Год назад
@@g.garcia7151 My father had all the talent in our family. He also spoke 9 languages, and was a cryptanalyst with the NSA which is why he was stationed at Teufelsberg in Berlin for most of the 1960s.
@MrVvulf
@MrVvulf Год назад
@@g.garcia7151 He's still hanging around, in his late 80s now, and his mind is going. He can't be allowed to drive alone because he gets lost. He makes anti-Trump posts on FB which get boring, but he also posts a lot of Calvin & Hobbes cartoons, so there's an upside. He's had a good life and we'll continue to enjoy his company until he shuffles off his mortal coil.
@barackmycat9448
@barackmycat9448 Год назад
I am disgusted. What are they thinking? Not a cent from me supporting this BS. They already did it right! This totally pissed me off!
@Cosmogirl014
@Cosmogirl014 Год назад
Same!!!
@carolsteinitz4590
@carolsteinitz4590 9 месяцев назад
Auto-tune is a travesty. The original voices are beautiful. If this can't be stopped, can there at least a large type that identifies any song as auto-tuned or original? Randy's voice was one of my all time favorites because he sang the emotions. I used to love the Eagles, but after what they did to Randy, and now this bs, I am livid. I can't even listen to the Eagle and will never buy another Eagles recording. Right now, since Randy's death, I'm only listening to pre- post-Eagle Randy songs, which I assume are not auto-tuned. Thank you for Randy's "Take it to the Limit" analysis (so I can hear him) and for your integrity and your "rants."
@debbielay2302
@debbielay2302 11 месяцев назад
Thanks for bringing this to our attention. Randy did not need auto-tune. I would rather hear original and unedited. Long time Eagles fan. Favorite is early work while Randy was in the group.
@roboct6
@roboct6 Год назад
What’s really crazy is that Randy Meisner could hit those notes live. I saw the Eagles in 1977 in Los Angeles and he did just that. Further more, I’m of the opinion that auto tune removes the soul, the humaneness from any track it’s applied to. It’s like having an Art Director grab his brushes to touch up the Mona, Lisa, for God’s sake! The so-called little flaws are what make a song great art.
@arribaficationwineho32
@arribaficationwineho32 Год назад
He had extreme stage fright before singing that song as he was so afraid of not hitting the note.
@unforeseeninsight
@unforeseeninsight Год назад
It’s those slight variations and vibrato around the note that give character and soul to it and ‘chills’ to the listener.
@quantanglement
@quantanglement Год назад
Yes, to me it's like taking a van gogh and grinding down all his brush strokes to make sure none go above 2 mm from the canvas - you know, so they're 'correct'.
@sallyatticum
@sallyatticum Год назад
yes, I saw them in Miami in 1977 and they were wonderful. All of them, spot on.
@SandraHof
@SandraHof Год назад
We may have been at the same concert in Los Angeles. I saw the Eagles there in the late 1970s. It was just when they released "Hotel California".
@charlenehoward351
@charlenehoward351 Год назад
Unbelievable. Randy Meisner was, without a doubt was the most talented vocalist in the band. Even when he wasn't singing lead, his voice was all over each recording in the harmony and backing vocals. His voice unaltered was the voice that made me an Eagles fan, first time I heard Take It To The Limit on the radio. It wasn't Henley or Frey that got my attention. To auto tune or pitch correct Randy is an insult. This kind of thing should not be allowed.
@brianshaffneraclc
@brianshaffneraclc Год назад
Preach. It is unbelievable. Sadly, like others, I believe we're rapidly falling toward a world where the real thing is often going to get veiled, mutilated, or even erased from existence by simulations and digital makeovers. Not just music, but all the visual and literary related arts as well. And an increasingly bigger part of the population will applaud while its done.
@chadhero37
@chadhero37 11 месяцев назад
I think Henley had the best voice (just my opinion though)
@stevesnow315
@stevesnow315 11 месяцев назад
I am so glad I've kept all of the Eagles on vinyl for all these years.
@johnscannell4189
@johnscannell4189 10 месяцев назад
I have always loved going to RU-vid to watch Randy sing at that concert. Just look at the reaction from the band members! No words...
@TR4Ajim
@TR4Ajim Год назад
Don Henley and his lawyers will block any Eagle song played on RU-vid, yet they sit back and allow this to happen!?!?🙄🤨
@ginnyvogel7754
@ginnyvogel7754 Год назад
You would think Henley would be front and center to protest this!
@deed.3230
@deed.3230 Год назад
@@ginnyvogel7754 maybe he and the other performers who don’t protest have a deal of some sort with the re-release companies to not object to it. Or maybe they are beyond caring.
@samanthab1923
@samanthab1923 Год назад
Henley loves to sue. Practically lived for it. Didn’t you see their Doc? It’s all Mr Geffen this & Mr Geffen that when he’s pissed.
@greenacres1909
@greenacres1909 Год назад
@@samanthab1923Definitely Geffen.This is the kind of thing I would think DH would absolutely detest.
@VintageMale
@VintageMale Год назад
Money, money, money.
@cindi1313
@cindi1313 Год назад
This was ugly, that mechanical sound, ugh! To me, the arrogance of the people who are doing the "correction" is staggering. It's like they are restoring a painting and then decide they can "improve" on Van Gogh's work by using some computer algorithm. Very depressing to think we will likely be hearing more and more of this.
@RogCBrand
@RogCBrand Год назад
Think of when they turn a beloved, classic book into a movie, and the Hollywood "writers" think they can improve on the work of a master, by changing important parts of the story. Arrogance is the perfect description of those people!
@marianneunger7069
@marianneunger7069 Год назад
Wow! I love your analogy. To take it a step farther, it's like taking a Van Gogh and making it a paint by number.
@danielnelson2820
@danielnelson2820 Год назад
I agree with you 100%. Don't destroy our music. Let it be!
@murphygraham4724
@murphygraham4724 10 месяцев назад
Good rant, Fil. I wasn’t aware they were going back and ruining these older songs. Pitiful.
@jacquiadams6741
@jacquiadams6741 Год назад
Unfortunately we are slowly slipping into an artificial world and I’m disgusted by this. Thank you Fil for all of your content-as a fellow lifelong musician I appreciate you.
@luckyfk3452
@luckyfk3452 Год назад
Don't buy these records then. Easy solution for you.
@michaelcorbett4236
@michaelcorbett4236 Год назад
Randy's voice is like a violin or cello. You often hit the note slightly sharp or flat just for a microsecond but then vibrato it into tune. And this adds character and uniqueness. It engages because in all those corrections you get the personality of the player as well as the randomness of the universe. Folk singing and jazz has been all about this for years. Even opera does it to an extent.
@bluize56
@bluize56 7 месяцев назад
Thanks for doing this series. I wasn't aware this was being done to older, and classic recordings. A real shame and a sadness that one might never again hear what the originals sounded like.
@madlift
@madlift 11 месяцев назад
I literally couldn't finish watching this video. It's so upsetting to see and hear Randy's beautiful, natural performance desecrated by wholly unwarranted, unnecessary, and unwanted revisionism. Thank you for taking a stand against it, Fil.
@dagmar.6954
@dagmar.6954 Год назад
This is actually very upsetting to me. I grew up with classic rock & had a lot of records. And I remember watching live performances. I remember how all these great artists sounded. They all could sing & had unique sounding voices. To change that original experience is criminal!
@Yesica1993
@Yesica1993 Год назад
I'm just starting off and wondering if I should even watch the whole thing because I know it will make me angry and sad. I feel exactly like you do. I remember it was only about 15 or so years ago that I even learned about all the digital fakery that goes on with music, especially vocals. It messed me up. I started to wonder if I had been lied to my entire life and that NO ONE actually could sing as well as I thought. I love music. I'm an amateur singer. Church, I've done a few weddings for friends. That sort of thing. The only thing that saved my sanity during this time is that, being on the worship team of my church, I have personally known people who had beautiful voices. The real thing. No tricks. I had to keep telling myself, no, people CAN actually sing on key. You've seen / heard them in real life! I know that sounds extreme. But, again, as someone who loves music, has done some singing, and went to voice class for years (until Covid took that away), the thought of never knowing if something is real or fake fills me with a panicky feeling.
@televinv8062
@televinv8062 Год назад
I agree. It IS criminal!
@Badmmajmma
@Badmmajmma Год назад
It’s horrific. It would be like changing Mona Lisa’s iconic smile to a grin. Thank you Fil for bringing attention to this.
@kristopherloviska9042
@kristopherloviska9042 Год назад
I always thought her smile was lacking teeth.
@roadwary56
@roadwary56 Год назад
Right! I think her smile needs some tweaking, nobody will notice or care. Great comparison
@graeabarth2227
@graeabarth2227 5 дней назад
I can’t find anyone on here that actually likes the autotuned/pitch-corrected version of any music. As others have said, it’s the ‘not so perfect’ that gives the ‘edge’ when listening to any performance. I have a few live ‘Blondie’ recordings and they are often ragged and all over the place BUT that’s why I like them! Keep up the good work Fil
@cbhamz
@cbhamz Год назад
It’s such a shame they can’t leave well enough alone. Thank you for trying to keep the great music of my generation pure. My thought process, if it isn’t broke, don’t fix it! Period.
@vinceburris2538
@vinceburris2538 Год назад
You're right Fil we're going to lose all the original live music forever. It sounds terrible. Thank you for all you do for music and the truth.
@Bookhart2
@Bookhart2 Год назад
Quick. Everybody go out and buy up the old vinyls! SAVE THE MUSIC! Or stop purchasing and listening to altered music.
@Yesica1993
@Yesica1993 Год назад
@@Bookhart2 If I wasn't so freaking broke, I'd do exactly this.
@tklrrbccar3906
@tklrrbccar3906 Год назад
Amen to being broke. Thank you Joe Biden!!!
@vicvega3614
@vicvega3614 Год назад
What live performance was this from? I mean The auto tune version so i wont listen to that one
@judyrichards8365
@judyrichards8365 Год назад
It’s sickening. These sound so fake and can in no way take you back to your childhood or teen years when music was so relevant in your life.
@RogCBrand
@RogCBrand Год назад
It seems like we live in a "Ken and Barbie" world. So many people seem to prefer fake over real in all aspects of life! I can imagine in the not too distant future, we'll have robotic "partners" that will have over exaggerated "features" that will be the "perfect" companions to most people, all our music will be created by A.I., art, books, etc., will also be done by it, and so many people will be happy with it! The older I get, the more I understand elderly people that seem disillusioned with the way the world has changed so much from what they grew up with!
@mtp4430
@mtp4430 Год назад
⁠​⁠@@RogCBrandGreat, because coming from one of these old people that you speak about, I’m proud of you, because it’s never too late to learn. We’re not a bunch of old grumpy complainers. We are people who are sick to our stomachs seeing what the future is going to be. And we can’t help but speak up. Sad to say, the only thing that has improved is technology. Unfortunately, they are using it for the wrong purposes. Like autotune, for instance .
@RogCBrand
@RogCBrand Год назад
@@mtp4430 I've loved technology and it has made life better in many ways, but the price might be too high! Food is good- but not if it's abused. I don't drink, but drinking in moderation isn't a problem, but abusing alcohol is. Tech is another thing that is good if used right, but horrible if abused! Kids used to grow up, running around outside, and using their imaginations- working their bodies and their brains! In the Summer I remember all us kids pretty much lived outside, riding bikes, building treehouses, etc., but now, when I go into town, I don't see kids out playing- and I'm sure it's because they are sitting for hours, inside, on their electronic devices. Then COVID just expanded that to a higher level. We're going to have kids that are obese, lack imagination, and have a hard time socializing with other human beings. You can't have a healthy civilization if the citizens are unhealthy.
@mtp4430
@mtp4430 Год назад
@@RogCBrand I believe the ultimate price of technology will prove to be too high. And yes absolutely, you can’t go wrong with everything in moderation. As a kid, particularly in the summer, I was outside all day with my friends. Playing sports, climbing trees and the building, treehouses, riding bikes, etc. None of which I have seen for quite some time. Kids today aren’t into those sorts of things. It’s mostly video games, and things like Twitter and Tik Tok, and they wonder why they have a short attention span? Whatever happened to creativity and imagination? Today they have music creation software. What’s wrong with humans creating music? If you can’t sing, no problem, we’ve got a device that will fix your off key crap. In the old days you just practiced harder to fix that. And unfortunately, not many possess social skills, or are very adept in the social graces. What they need is more person to person contact and less texting and instant messaging BS. I could go on and on, but I don’t wanna bore the crap out of you. Have a good night. But as I stated, I believe the ultimate price we pay, for technological advances, will prove to be too high.
@roadwary56
@roadwary56 Год назад
Amen, I'd rather listen to karaoke 🎤
@rangerwhite5165
@rangerwhite5165 Год назад
I've seen them 3 times and they never disappoint. Glen sang Take It To The Limit the first two times I saw them, Vince Gill on the last tour. Both do a decent job, but no one can touch Randy. They can't hit the high note on the outro.
@nadinemarie3811
@nadinemarie3811 Год назад
I'm glad I have all my vinyl records from 70s and 80s. I get to hear the vocals from these great artists without auto tuning. It's totally outrageous that they're doing this to great recordings that don't need auto tuning. 🤦‍♀️
@KarlaElaine100
@KarlaElaine100 Год назад
Imperfection is a good thing! Younger generations won’t even understand that. Live performances were more personal back in the 70’s era. When a live performance was close to pitch perfect, we genuinely appreciated just how rare, difficult that was to achieve and how special it was.
@mikevandenboom5958
@mikevandenboom5958 Год назад
The problem is they took something perfect and have now made it imperfect.
@E-BikingAdventures
@E-BikingAdventures Год назад
Right. No need to learn how to be a good singer anymore. Just press a button on a drum machine and find some words that rhyme.
@marknease1631
@marknease1631 Год назад
I see your comment about live performances being more personal….may I interject…consider also the visual aspect…concerts in 1990s and later, have large screens…people tend to focus on the screen over looking at the performance taking place on the stage…I’ve done that and after the concert, I felt I cheated myself in missing the musicians on stage..
@ferengoid
@ferengoid Год назад
I'd call it 'humanity' rather than imperfection. The colour, the aliveness, is an essential thing, not to be removed! Imagine putting the Mona Lisa through a TikTok filter to give her bright skin tone and huge eyes, with big red lips.... it would completely ruin the essence of it. That's precisely what these nitwits are doing to music.
@jilltaylor3990
@jilltaylor3990 Год назад
Thank you for highlighting this, Fil. Just dreadful.I hate that 70’s music is being auto tuned. It’s no longer ‘ real’. We are going to lose original live music for ever and it is terrible. I am disgusted at such stupidity.
@LillyMarz777
@LillyMarz777 Год назад
It's not stupidity. It's evil.
@amycurrent904
@amycurrent904 Год назад
I discovered your videos last week when you analyzed "Take It To The Limit." (Confession - I cried when I heard Randy's isolated vocals). I was not aware of the difference beween raw, unedited audio and autotuned content - thank you for the tutorial. Too young to have seen the Eagles live....am now on the hunt for vintage casettes and records!
@JoeSmith-ey2xp
@JoeSmith-ey2xp Год назад
This isn't correction, it's ruining.
@raeann63
@raeann63 Год назад
it is criminal if they don't allow the original live recording to exist. i bloody HATE autotune and now the idea of eliminating the actual, human, real vocal from access?! WHY?!?! luv ya, fil. ❤
@thriftwithjoy
@thriftwithjoy Год назад
OMG I always thought I was virtually tone deaf, but this "improved" version makes my skin crawl. Cut it out people! Thanks Fil.
@paulkersey8788
@paulkersey8788 Год назад
Thanks Fil, you've done Randy proud by being true to his original vocals. Keep up the great work! This would be like going over a Masterpiece Painting and painting over the original to fill in spots you don't think look right. It's like when Ozzy took out Bob and Lee's musical parts and replaced them with session players, it's not original anymore. What an IDIOTIC thing to do to his original vocals, it's no longer original!
@zepgirl6495
@zepgirl6495 11 месяцев назад
Thank you for this truth....he has raw,, God given talent, as do many others, and does not require auto tuning. I saw the Eagles in 1977 and it was one of the best shows I've ever seen!
@kbusby4824
@kbusby4824 Год назад
Beyond sad and I am seeing The Eagles this fall with Steely Dan. I can't stand auto tune. It is like nails on a chalkboard. Randy sang it perfectly. May he RIP.
@A.Briggs628
@A.Briggs628 Год назад
They actually did it backwards, didn’t they? Great vocals like Randy’s, and Freddie Mercury never needs auto-tuning or pitch corrections. Auto-tune, and pitch correction needs THEM! I hate that people destroy perfections! Terrible! What in the world are they thinking?? If it’s not broken, don’t fix it! Thanks for sharing this with us, Fil.
@lisafeerickpollison
@lisafeerickpollison 9 месяцев назад
Thank you SO much for this video. As a singer, I appreciate great singers who can play with pitch in order to achieve an effect. I WANT to hear that. For example, Bruce Springsteen sometimes starts a little flat and bends up to the 'correct" note which can impart a world weary or wistful feeling for the listener. Also, screwing around with a performance can completely erase vibrato s as a stylistic tool. Where would we be without Barry Gibb's Vibrato in Bee Gees' performances? There is room in music for slight modulation of pitch in live OR a recorded performance. Let's hope some people reject Auto-tune and pitch correction. Keep 'em honest, Fil.
@allenanderson3649
@allenanderson3649 11 месяцев назад
Real talent! Priceless, just like Randy!!!! God given talent.
@waynzwhirled6181
@waynzwhirled6181 Год назад
I'm 100% with you on this. By making it "perfect" they ruin it. It really is a travesty. Rather depressing. I love the work you do on your channel. Thank you.
@zephyrbear
@zephyrbear 4 месяца назад
I would say it was perfect before they messed it up...
@twogroove2
@twogroove2 Год назад
As a photographer, this process would an equivalent of pulling out all of the Ansel Adams negatives and processing them in Photoshop to sharpen up the edges. We need to have a warning label on the album covers. As a record collector, this is why I prefer first presses. I appreciate you getting this out to us.
@briandawson1082
@briandawson1082 Год назад
Ansel did adjust his photos through burning and dodging in the darkroom
@jaystone4816
@jaystone4816 Год назад
Fil, I'm with you 100% on this issue. Re-issuing older performances of ANY singer or group with digital manipulation like this is a sacrilege. It's also being mindlessly done almost to the point of being automatic - and NOT being clearly disclosed in the re-release so we have the choice to buy or not buy. As an artist you know singing styles change over long periods of time, and no matter when, some historical performances were raw but powerful and defining. Voices are unique. Now the record companies want to smooth and tune every vocal, eliminating a lot of the sound and nuance of the original. What next? Digitally alter Janis Joplin's voice to make it smooth and "pretty?' Disgusting! Mediocre minds on autopilot are dangerous. An earlier example was the initial modern release of Walt Disney's classic, Fantasia. They wiped the original soundtrack recorded with Leopold Stokowski and the Philadelphia Orchestra and substituted a "new" recording from some hack orchestra that sounded like elevator music. There were so many complaints they later restored the original recording remastered digitally. I'm reminded of a famous quote by Albert Einstein: "The difference between genius and stupidity is genius has its limits.""
@petemartin295
@petemartin295 Год назад
This is so wrong. The vocalist has passed away and is unable to defend himself from this kind of nonsense. Thank you for your diligence in defending the integrity of the performer's work.
@olivemd
@olivemd Год назад
I agree. ‘Perfect’ is not what I want to hear. To me, the joy is missing.
@RosiG73
@RosiG73 Год назад
Why, why, why???!!! What is gained? It is a disgusting perversion when done. Who thinks auto tune sounds better??? You said it’s “ruined” and that’s spot on anytime it’s used. All the emotion is stripped away as is the artistry in where most talented singers chose to sing a note. It is maddening.
@radiojet1429
@radiojet1429 11 месяцев назад
"the people who can't sing and have never sung at this level".....spot on, Fil. Bravo!
@ardentynekent2099
@ardentynekent2099 Год назад
You’re right, Fil. They are destroying the art. In this case, from the first note of the auto-tuned version, it sounded as if Randy has his head in a pillow. I’ve been on channels where teen reactors are responding enthusiastically to people like Janis Joplin and Joe Cocker et al. Viewers are excited because the next generation is loving the music precisely as it was. (Maybe Tower Records will reappear and the original, vinyl records will be in great demand!)
@OuterGalaxyLounge
@OuterGalaxyLounge Год назад
Record companies never get the first clue why their own actions contribute to music piracy.
@chumley5695
@chumley5695 Год назад
IMO, "Auto-tuned/pitch corrected" should be stamped on all music where applicable, whether it's done to a song before release, or after. I think the purchaser has a right to know. (BTW, I saw a few errant brush strokes on the Mona Lisa ... someone ought to correct it 😏)
@HealthAtAnyCost
@HealthAtAnyCost Год назад
That is actually how I describe this to the lay people in my life. Like taking a Picasso and re-working it to look "realistic" for those that don't see what he saw as he drew and painted. They always scoff and I say, "Exactly."
@sueschmied3603
@sueschmied3603 3 месяца назад
So glad I have kept all our original LP’s. Love original versions always.
@davidmlang1
@davidmlang1 10 месяцев назад
I saw the eagles in 1977 in Seattle. Randy sang "TAKE IT TO THE LIMIT " perfect! I'd like to here you sing this! The Eagles are amazing!
@mimi-3212
@mimi-3212 Год назад
With the current trend, young people will sadly think (maybe already do) that an auto-tuned voice is normal to their ears. I'm glad Fil is pointing out the difference and praising the natural voice. The question is, why are producers intent on taking out emotion and uniqueness by auto-tuning everyone?
@IMeMineWho
@IMeMineWho Год назад
They do not know any better.
@VintageMale
@VintageMale Год назад
It's always about money! Follow the money.
@Psalm1267
@Psalm1267 Год назад
@mimi-3212 There's a movement on to dehumanize everything. What they're doing to music is just one small fraction of it.
@soundpainter2590
@soundpainter2590 Год назад
​@Psalm1267 You are 100 % Corect. "Dehumanize" EVERYTHING !! & It's Revolting !
@SyntagmaStation
@SyntagmaStation Год назад
I had no idea live vocals were getting auto tuned, especially old songs. It’s just absurd. Who actually likes that??? Thanks for bringing it to everyone’s attention Fil. You have a great channel.
@danielz2131
@danielz2131 11 месяцев назад
Wings, you are so cool. I love how you express your music genius & help us peasants - understand. I know nothing about music and now can hear very well, but you are a beautiful wonder. Thanks
@TangSongs
@TangSongs 3 месяца назад
I am a voice teacher/vocal coach and I agree with you 100%. Thanks for what you’re doing here!
@TheArtfulAddict
@TheArtfulAddict Год назад
This makes me so angry. It's bad enough that we are forced to hear autotune in today's music, but how dare they taint brilliant performances from the past!!!! Can't the Eagles and other artists reject having autotune applied to their performances??
@wingsofpegasus
@wingsofpegasus Год назад
Yes of course if they knew about it!
@TheArtfulAddict
@TheArtfulAddict Год назад
@@wingsofpegasus That is so sad. As time goes by, I am more and more thankful to have grown up when I did and feel sorry for the kids growing up today in this fake,, autotune world. They are missing SO much.
@4amazinggrace
@4amazinggrace Год назад
that's baffling to me@@wingsofpegasus
@vrbixby
@vrbixby Год назад
I hope some musicians start a campaign and start suing if that's the extremes they need to take.
@alangray9117
@alangray9117 Год назад
@@vrbixby auto tune is cool when used as just an effect like Cher did with Believe in the 90s but when you use it just to take out mistakes then recordings become less human. Sometimes the brilliance is in the mistakes themselves.
@Deyan_B_Travels
@Deyan_B_Travels Год назад
Those who need auto-tune should practice more and those who don't need it, shouldn't use it!
@eddietucker3334
@eddietucker3334 7 месяцев назад
You are absolutely spot-on! Pitch correction/autotune RUINS the passion of performance. I do not want to hear robots. I want to hear humans being expressive note by note. If swoops up to a little sharp or finishes slightly flat express the passion of the song's moment, then that is what is a human performance. Please make laws that identify robotic incursions so that real musicians and fans can avoid them and hear the real thing. The human thing.
@proudmoon3
@proudmoon3 11 месяцев назад
I'm so glad I've kept my CD collection and converted the music to MP3 myself!
@jamesbatcho
@jamesbatcho Год назад
Manipulating existing vocal performances like this is a crime against history. We truly have reached the end of music. I can't believe anything anymore.
@dph025prod
@dph025prod Год назад
The thing that never seems to be mentioned with autotune is the difference between relative and absolute pitch. Snapping vocals to the absolute grid can also ruin the relative proportions of the intervals to make it literally worse from a dispassionate, music theory perspective. You're not just losing humanization. You're potentially losing precision.
@ethanweeter2732
@ethanweeter2732 Год назад
And it can sound hideous when done wrong, meaning the precision you are talking about it seems.
@gekkogrrrl
@gekkogrrrl Год назад
Good point. I was thinking the same. If a singer is singing the third in a major chord, it would need to be a slight bit flat for chord tuning and sonority.
@dominey
@dominey 10 месяцев назад
RU-vid is a valuable historical archive for many live music performances. Manipulation like this may make sense to a record company's marketing department, or whichever third party was contracted to 'remaster' it, but it destroys the original recording. I can understand some re-mixing and loudness adjustments, but this goes well beyond that.
@ConglomerationCat
@ConglomerationCat Год назад
Holy crap, this is ridiculously frightening...i have perfect pitch and I can't fathom the auto tune platform. But this is very scary. Damn it. What were once nuances that were slightly flat or sharp gave it the "human element" that we archive and celebrate. Thank you loads for bringing the "cockroach" into the light. Love the channel and always have. Cheers!
@garlicgalore
@garlicgalore Год назад
I'm crushed. We're losing all the artists' choices, the random differences that surprise and add interest. Even more heinous, it's being done after the artist has passed away and can't weigh in on the change to their work.
@kristygaconnier3637
@kristygaconnier3637 Год назад
Thank you for the rant!!! It’s a god awful thing to do to real, talented singers. I can understand pitch correcting a performance artist who can’t really sing… but a truly great singer should be left alone.
@feversoundproductions
@feversoundproductions Год назад
A Sad State of affairs. Keep up the great work Fil. More people need to be aware of this issue.
@retha1875
@retha1875 Год назад
The Eagles were my daddy's favorite band. He took me to see them with the Doobie Brothers when I was 13 or so, in 1976. I think of him whenever I hear the Eagles and this is so upsetting.
@IMeMineWho
@IMeMineWho Год назад
I understand. That is awful.
@jacqueline1598
@jacqueline1598 Год назад
Hearing Randy's voice in the original gives me goosebumps. Auto tuning Randy, or any other excellent vocalist, is simply, Blasphemy. Thank you for showing this, Fil. One question--How can we protest this?
@Geezer-yf8hv
@Geezer-yf8hv 11 месяцев назад
Don’t go their final, REALLY final tour, and don’t buy the album they will eventually make to bleed their legacy totally dry! It was all done better in the original versions! The Eagles, (Don and Glen, now only Don), were always a cut-throat band! First Bernie, then Randy, then Felder!
@winslowredcross2835
@winslowredcross2835 Год назад
I agree with you 100%. It makes the vocal less perfect. Thanks Fil and great video!!
@SummerRain368
@SummerRain368 Год назад
My personal thought: Perhaps the newer singers with autotune) don’t want the older songs to sound so much better and to have them available for comparison. I totally dislike auto tune … Now I know why it sounds & feels like fingernails going down a blackboard Thank you for the perfect explanations, Fil. I’m loving your channel!
@knockshinnoch1950
@knockshinnoch1950 Год назад
This is so depressing. Is nothing sacred? Why on earth would anyone think that original vocal needed to be altered in any way?
@ElusvOptmst1
@ElusvOptmst1 Год назад
I agree with your objection to autotune. Authenticity is the best, makes the singer unique and better. Now they want everyone sounding like robots. Horrible.
@camillazapolsky8940
@camillazapolsky8940 Год назад
Auto tune is a travesty. You go to a live concert to hear a different, and sometimes imperfect version of the music. That’s what makes live music great. I’m going to the Eagles concert in November, BTW. Can’t wait!
@bonnielee8935
@bonnielee8935 Год назад
Auto tuned and pitch corrected music is like sandpaper to my ears, my brain and my nerves. It's not the least bit enjoyable.
@sunarf
@sunarf Год назад
I'm a 60 year old drummer whose seen MANY concerts over the years. I saw the Eagles during their 'The Long Run' Tour on Feb 5, 1980 at The Summit in Houston, Texas. During the 'acoustic' part of the show, all five members (but Schmit instead of Meisner) came to the front of the stage and sat on wooden stools. The entire arena was dark except for a single blue spotlight beaming straight down on each member. Their voices were EXACTLY like you heard on the studio versions...perfect! That's a moment I'll never forget.
@88Musk
@88Musk Год назад
They practiced that way a lot.
@chappellroseholt5740
@chappellroseholt5740 7 месяцев назад
Good afternoon from the beautiful SF Bay Area. Excellent review. The industry has been awful for decades and this is a perfect example of the corrupting influence of banks on music. We ran into this kind of consciousness back in the 70-80's when non music related "suits" were passing judgement on real music based on their biases. How many times have great songs and musicians been rejected only to turn up somewhere else as a hit. I hate auto tune. Rick Beato has a great analysis as to why my generation hates auto tune. It's both insightful and funny. Thank you, Phil, keep on hammering away at this disease. Such a travesty and insult to such fine musicians as the Eagles.
@Sunny-jz3dy
@Sunny-jz3dy Год назад
I agree!!! I hate auto tune! Leave these classic albums alone!!! They should leave their albums alone...I loved them the way they were!
@jessegreen6138
@jessegreen6138 Год назад
This is down right criminal to do this to Randy's voice. They took and ruined the original version by doing this. What's next is someone going to correct Leonardo Da Vinci's paintings. This is the problem by auto- tuning these song's you suck the life out of the music. Thank you Fil for pointing this out to us.
@joolaloola3402
@joolaloola3402 Год назад
This is shocking! Thank you for bringing it to our attention ... I had no idea. The auto tune bears no resemblance when you've literally grown up with certain singers and bands. To me, it's positively criminal. It's like painting the Colosseum white to 'make it look better'! The idiots who do this need flogging.
@michellemachet-philip2801
@michellemachet-philip2801 11 месяцев назад
Thank you so much for bringing this to everyone's attention. Randy was my soul and this is just not fair
@rongletherow2682
@rongletherow2682 11 месяцев назад
Absolutely correct. It's ruining every recording. Like you, I can hear it straight away. Randy was a great singer. No need for any of this
@xDiscipleOfTheWatchx
@xDiscipleOfTheWatchx Год назад
Randy is such a beautiful singer....How dare they take the life and soul out of his performance? Add this to the disgusting way they copyright block online...Henley has a lot to answer for.
@bassesatta9235
@bassesatta9235 11 месяцев назад
Felder mentions the record label wanting to pitch correct their 1980 live album after they rerecorded some lines in the studio, in his book. I assume its a record label decision
@xDiscipleOfTheWatchx
@xDiscipleOfTheWatchx 11 месяцев назад
@@bassesatta9235 These days they run it themselves. Specifically Henley and Frey, and with Glen gone.I think Don is the primary decision maker. He's certainly the one making the aggressive copyright claims on youtube.
@angrysilence1234....
@angrysilence1234.... 10 месяцев назад
You think that, Don, is responsible for it? REALLY?! Forget the contractors, the studio executives, even the people who presented it to RU-vid (probably, the very same recording company people!)....Do as you please, but I, for one, am not willing to dump in on Don, at least not alone. I bet that MANY voices have been altered or autotuned, including DON HENLEY'S!! Perhaps, one day, they will come up with an "advancement" that can alter the known voice of DONALD DUCK into PAVARROTI!!!! 🙄
@xDiscipleOfTheWatchx
@xDiscipleOfTheWatchx 10 месяцев назад
@@angrysilence1234.... Rick Beato made a video about copyright blockers. He played video of Don Henley. It shows he, on behalf of the Eagles, is one of the most aggressive blockers online. That shows his level of control over the Eagles IP. I love Don's music, he's a legitimate musical genius. But he is absolutely one of the main people behind this autotune move.
@marion_R
@marion_R Год назад
Terrible, frightening, stupid, depressing... Thank you for charing this with us!🌞 I hope the responsible people read all these comments and see what we feel about this. I fear, it's all about the money. If the youth doesn't know REAL singing they don't need REAL artists any more.
@janetsmiley6778
@janetsmiley6778 Год назад
Artists should, from now on, have it written in their contracts that, once they are satisfied with the vocals, no autotune can be subsequently applied.
@bluetuber501
@bluetuber501 7 месяцев назад
I agree completely. Auto-tune takes out all of the interesting sound and makes it sound robotic . . . It's tragic that the original versions will no longer be available.
@darkhosis
@darkhosis Год назад
Couldn't agree more Fil. Like so many things in our society- people throwing the good things away for a cheap imitation.
@Jimi-DV
@Jimi-DV Год назад
One of the greatest Vocal deliveries of all time... these people have no idea what they're doing, please leave these performances alone!
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