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It's Time to Learn a Tonal Language - Why and How? | Actual Fluency NYNL Presentation 中越粵ไทยဗမာ Việt 

Stuart Jay Raj
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@ingathrise
@ingathrise Год назад
As a native Wu speaker, our language has minimal throat actions, syllables are differentiated mainly by the tip of the tongue and the shape of the mouth. Wu also has sub-dialects in the area from south of Jiangsu to north of Zhejiang including Shanghai, we can easily understand each other within the context but not so much without, and in my opinion, of which Shanghainese speaks Wu with the most amount of throat actions while Wuxi has the least.
@gurfatehsingh4328
@gurfatehsingh4328 2 года назад
Terima kasih!
@pavel6073
@pavel6073 2 года назад
Can relate very much to what you've said in the beginning! My company hired me just for the reason to be able to understand and be understood by their Chinese partners, while I have no idea about the sophisticated technical stuff that we sell! But for young people trying to decide the focus of their career development, I wouldn't suggest that they make learning some foreign language their primary focus, after all it's more of an auxiliary skill which can only supplement their main professional competence, imo. But if you're already a confident professional, some exotic language will both widen your worldview and aid you professionally. I'd be happy to be proven wrong though
@davegraham7550
@davegraham7550 2 года назад
Indonesian is a kind of natural occuring user friendly esperanto i would thin.
@LoscoeLad
@LoscoeLad 8 месяцев назад
can you do a video just on Chinese tones please?
@argonwheatbelly637
@argonwheatbelly637 2 года назад
Even English and Russian have overarching sentence (as well as word) tonal patterns, depending on whether or not you're asking a question or giving an answer. Oddly, they also have the reverse of each other, which is why each sounds gruff or even condescending when talking to the other. They're not, but that's how it'll sound to a native of the other until that person learns the tonal patterns. Learn, and have fun!!!
@Blacky-NZ
@Blacky-NZ 2 года назад
Awesome Video Thanks
@rpajay
@rpajay 2 года назад
Dam this dude is clever. Must be unreal to be able to master so many languages.
@yooks5
@yooks5 2 года назад
Hello Jay! I know everybody calls you Jay, but I want to call you Raj! Because I am an Indonesian person and, oh... You dropped something. Here is your crown, king. Because Raj (or Raja) means king in Indonesian language. ;) Keep making great contents!
@reubenismyname
@reubenismyname 2 года назад
Great video!
@varadi23
@varadi23 2 года назад
hello the voice track lags behind a bit, please adjust in next videos
@myownway07
@myownway07 2 года назад
22:38 Zhàn = War = To stand One more vocabulary I'll take away from this video today. ...My Mandarin learning journey is now a little less longer than it was yesterday. Thank you for this..
@pyfpyf585
@pyfpyf585 2 года назад
So true
@JustLooking
@JustLooking 2 года назад
@Stuart Jay Raj: Do you consider Swedish and Norwegian (with their pitch accent) tonal languages?
@StuartJayRaj
@StuartJayRaj 2 года назад
pitch accent language.. there are many tonal languages out there and many gradients. Wu languages like shanghainese have pitch accent rules as well as sinitic tones.
@dvx-ze1qz
@dvx-ze1qz 2 года назад
Generally languages with pitch accents are not counted as tonal, the most famous example being Japanese, where the pitch accent can determine the meaning between homophones(i.e. haNA is nose, but HAna is flower), but Japanese is never considered a tonal language.
@soweli3033
@soweli3033 2 года назад
what a gigachad
@BBP_BKK
@BBP_BKK 2 года назад
Hi, Stu. I've been following you for a while. I know that Mindkraft is a learning language course which the concept can be applied for any languages. Would you recommend the course to an English learner? Also, I just found your CTF book in Kinokuniya a few days ago. It's very interesting and I think knowing concepts in that book can help Thai learners break some of their native-mindset barrier. (Knowing the differences between Thai and English helps me understand some of English mindset too.) I wonder if you have something like Cracking English Fundamental or some other's book you would recommend. Thank you.
@nattkullav8657
@nattkullav8657 2 года назад
👍👍👍
@ryanmwhetten
@ryanmwhetten 2 года назад
Love your videos! Are the first two warfares flipped? Looking at the characters I feel like the first one should be media/public opinion 輿論and the second one should be physiological 心理 I come from a japanese background so I’m not too good with sino-characters
@dvx-ze1qz
@dvx-ze1qz 2 года назад
Yes I think you're right. Greetings from Canada
@pon00050
@pon00050 2 года назад
18:40
@MrRejikuruvilla
@MrRejikuruvilla 2 года назад
in minute 8.43 you say mǎ in Chinese would mean horse and that same mǎ tone in Thai would mean dog หมา, but this word in Thai is pronounced / H̄mā / which is not mǎ
@StuartJayRaj
@StuartJayRaj 2 года назад
no..the H is not present in modern day Thai. only in the orthography. See my latest clip on Chinese Viet Thai tones in one orthography where I cover this in extreme detail
@MrRejikuruvilla
@MrRejikuruvilla 2 года назад
@@StuartJayRaj the question was if the tone is same for the word Horse in Mandarin and Thai (as per minute 8.43), why is the diacritic on top of alphabet 'a' of ma different. i mean ǎ in Mandarin and ā in Thai is it in Thai mā and not mǎ for the word Horse Thank you for the quick reply. i went through ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-oq-FEdKhn5E.html and in minute 25 where you refer to the ma example, but did not find the answer
@QuizmasterLaw
@QuizmasterLaw 2 года назад
skip to 5:00 if you're not interested in listening to his "hire me i'm a consultant" speech and just want to try to extract his content on learning tonal languages. This looks like bullshit but I would love to be wrong so I'm going to watch the entire thing before clicking thumbs down.
@pumpuiwat5887
@pumpuiwat5887 2 года назад
do you speak german?
@davegraham7550
@davegraham7550 2 года назад
If your skills are as you say shouldn't you be owning the petrol companies etc. that you do work for at this point?
@StuartJayRaj
@StuartJayRaj 2 года назад
the irony
@davegraham7550
@davegraham7550 2 года назад
#esperantoforaerospace2022
@davegraham7550
@davegraham7550 2 года назад
# esperanta lingvo por aerospaco en la jaro 2022
@davegraham7550
@davegraham7550 2 года назад
As an aside, a man rushed out to stop me taking photos of the Foxconn factory a few months ago in the digital manufacturimg location Manaus in Brazil I was suprised to come across.
@davegraham7550
@davegraham7550 2 года назад
ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-MtNEP4w6vMk.html
@pandabear153
@pandabear153 2 года назад
Isn't there an African language that's tonal too? Maybe in Sudan?
@justinco7512
@justinco7512 2 года назад
I think Yoruba is a tonal language as well. Very interesting language!
@sungalaxia
@sungalaxia 2 года назад
Most of the Niger-Congo language family is tonal!
@leechoonpeng1123
@leechoonpeng1123 2 года назад
It is very important to master mandarin Chinese as a language rather learning dialects as Chinese dialects are going to disappear in long term, even Hong Kong school also began to teach mandarin Chinese rather teaching Cantonese which is not a language, in future only need to master English and Mandarin Chinese will be able to connect to the world .
@StuartJayRaj
@StuartJayRaj 2 года назад
I would put it another way. Learn Chinese as a language system and master mandarin as an important use case as it is now the official language of china, but also learn other languages and dialects SO that they don't die out. encourage them to have longevity
@mirae9163
@mirae9163 2 года назад
Mandarin is not a language, in the future only need to master Cantonese and English will be able to connect to the world.
@mitismee
@mitismee 2 года назад
well if the China's government really push hard toward erase other language then your statement might be true ( but there'll be riot if they wanna go that route ) . but for now these language ARE NOT going anywhere. They are still there and pass down to the new generation . listen I live in Canada and even the language of the native people that has been erased heavily by the English but now they still remain and pass down to young generation to preserve it , i went to elementary shcool in CAnada they do teach Cree which is a native language for Cree's people ( it's a pitch accent language just like Japanese ) and yeah so no matter how much some government want to erase something completely it'll still remain somehow and someway . but English or Mandarin is just a common language that people study to communicate with different person from different country at the end of the day you come home and you speak your mother tongue . i personally speak Vietnamese i moved to Canada in 7th grade but i'll guarantee this my Vietnamese will still be pass down to my son and grand grand son , there's no excuse for not learning it , even though the environment that my descendant is in are using English only, if i have this mentality so that mean lots of other people do too , the chinese are good at preserving their's tradition and language so don't say dumb stuff like Southern language will be gone. nooo lol
@thefalconflame
@thefalconflame 2 года назад
@@mirae9163 I also don't agree with Mandarin erasing other chinese language, but what do you mean by its not a language? I know there are mandarin oranges.. 😂
@mirae9163
@mirae9163 2 года назад
@@thefalconflame 😂😂haha... Because he/she said Cantonese isn't a language
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