It's like now when rappers get killed, people mourn for a few weeks and then go right back to the norm. But I remember when Pac and Big got killed, it's like hip hop stopped. And the impact is still being felt. For those of us who remember, we still get chills. Shit crazy
Being from Cali and living there when Pac died it felt like the state / earth mourned him the sky was red and the day was just off when biggie was killed it was a different energy it seemed like a different air about things but the sad truth is everyone had pretty much understood who killed Pac it just wasn’t spoken about or mentioned it was like a embarrassing but sad reality of the Cali politics
Well tuapc wanted to be hood do stupid shit to get himself in these type of situations u go jump a well know killer from a hood and tell me if u survive pac was never that hood smart and thats what happen got smoke dby baby lane
@@jonathangonzalez2666 Biggie situation was even worse in my opinion because he didn't put his hands on anyone, he was just at the wrong place at the wrong time and a victim by association.
Oh so true!! My daughter had an episode like that at a small club a few years ago. She had a bad feeling and wanted to leave. After she left a young man was shot and killed that night. I think he was only 17 years old😢
Big was really dumb calling the streets against Death Row during the New York New York video shoot and expecting no retaliation in the west considering the nasty relations between puff and suge...
No matter how many times I hear about that fatal night in Vegas or LA it sounds worst and worst every time...March 9th and Sept 13th two biggest days in hip hop history
@@ShawnDemarcoEntertainmentyou're right. Shot on 7th and died six days later on the 13th. But I get the point. Two different days when one of the greatest, Biggie, died and when the greatest, Pac, died.
Many ppl influenced and mentor big from the jazz musician to Summers in jamaica with his DJ/selector uncle . Even his best friend d_roc to even puff. There were many that played father figure in his life
Crazy how everyone and their momma can recognize Biggie should not have been out there at that time, except Puffy. How do you not realize that it’s a bad idea to have your artist in that kind of danger…
Puffy knew what he was doing. No coincidence Biggie's 1st album is called Ready to Die and then the 2nd is called Life after Death. It was never Puffy's plan to have Biggie around long term.
@@targetegrat I believe that with all of my heart, mind and soul! To this DAY Puffy is still unbothered and wickedly self centered while Mrs. Wallace STILL grieves and fights for her ONLY son’s legacy! Damn shame but Karma WILL get it’s reward from everyone involved in the assassinations of those young men! #stillhurts 😢🕊️🕊️💔#RIPPacandBig #TheBestestEver
It was a dark time when all that went down. Death back in the day was a shock when people who are major stars get gun down. People heard of gang violence in LA they even made a movie Colors. So seeing Pac get killed and then BiG get killed was scary to be famous and someone wanted you dead.
Yep I was 16 year old. Back then it was tough hard-core. I was ready to fight when anyone say negative about 2pac. That's how our youth years was involving 2pac & Biggie
This is a classic example of sometimes we really don't have friends. Young people, no not just young people, everyone trust no one. Becareful who you let into your life. And sometimes they send them to you, and you won't even see it coming. So just another cold lesson in life. . Rest in peace Pac and Biggie.
Happy somebody finally said it.... Biggie should not have been in L.A. it was way too soon.. and celebrating a new album. People were still morning PAC... Biggie had the wrong people advising him and he went against common sense... especially naming the Album "Life after Death".. that sounded like a diss to 2PAC
@jack crain TRUTH. I’ll take the risk of trusting people until they let me down. I’d rather live my life knowing I give ppl chances and that it’s on them if they lie, cheat, steal, etc. This mentality of not trusting people is too negative and exhausting. Plus, you’ll miss out on some genuinely good people. I used to be that way but it’s not worth it for me. Now I’m not a dummy and don’t just believe everything people say lol but when it comes down to it that trust nobody mentality is way too negative for me. And I’ve been fucked over so many times but it is what it is. Gotta weed out the real from the fake.
It's crazy to me how young Pac and Biggie was when they were killed, but to have so much going on around them, made them drop their guard, man, talk about living the fast life. RIP 2Pac & Biggie
That’s point that’s how you know diddy is a snake you think puffy of all people don’t know that it was wrong to send bigge to la puffy is a grimey dude an he had to listen to diddy until he left the contract so he had no choice
i was gonna say the same thing. even jay, jay said he spoke to him on the phone. irv gotti was on the phone with jay and handed the phone to big. i guess its normal cos it was a huge party, but still, cos of the aftermath its a little airy
So sad looking at these interviews with different artists giving their account of that night too many people was telling big to leave. Keith murry said tge same thing when big asked him should he go ti Europe
After Pac and BIG's death the industry and fans were just tired of the 'Beef' and in that void Master P and No Limit records came to power and after their huge success next thing you know the south just basically took over hip hop.
No the South didn't just take over hip hop because then came 50 Cent and the Dipset movement plus you still had Canibus, Pun, and The Roots coming in. Also, Common and Em became big after that time too.
@@hitek9too255 you a preteen talking about shit before your time take a seat chump. Your timeline don’t even make sense leave this shit to the people who experienced not what you researched on google fuck boy.
When, I say he is so on point about this. How LA really died after that major tragedy. LA was never been the same. And really never had the same strong vibe. The energy in the clubs on Hollywood Blvd or Sunset Blvd or Downtown LA was never the same.
Man big FACTS!! Goodie Mob was plug in with a lot of people in the industry, PAC loved them because of their messages in they music. Their music contains to all what happening today. Goodie Mob could have been big, but they wasn't no sale outs. Outkast wasn't sale outs either but them just being so different made themselves industry
@@jonathancoleman6482 people still don't get it. BIG AND Pac's death was over crips and bloods because the crips wanted Suge dead and Suge wanted Diddy dead. BIG should've never been in LA that soon. Diddy sacrificed BIG.....
LA CITY 🏙️ IS THE SHIT… However referring To The Music 🎼 scene, Clubbing, The Vibrant City it once Was… The SUGE Knight Era… Yes 👏🏿 it did Die With B.I.G. No Winners. It Never recovered. The Game Tried to bring The west Back to glory but Nah…
DJ Quik new the same dirty cop that killed Tupac was going to kill Biggie on 9 March 1997 and DJ Quik was happy two of the biggest artist where being killed so other artists can come through and DJ Quik thought he could take Tupac and Biggie crowns 👑 👑 as kings of the game !!!!
Dj Quik was arguing with Biggie that week he died and was affiliated with suge. That why everyone was pointing at dj quik cause it clearly linked it to suge.
DJ quik, 2nd to None and everybody that was in Suga Free Video STAY READY...THEY WENT TO THE VIBE PARTY AFTER THE VIDEO SHOOT... DJ QUIK BODYGUARDS AND 2ND TO NONE WAS IN FRONT OF THE VIBE PARTY WATCHING BIGGIE
both them dudes was in their mid twenties. Jay didn't drop Blueprint until he was 31. imagine BIG and Pac with another six or seven years in the game smh. that's why it's such a joke to me that people call Jay the GOAT.....
@@dawb86 jay had 3 2 critically acclaimed albums 3-4 years before blueprint was even thought of he also did 5 mil and won a Grammy 3 years before blueprint was ever thought of the crazy part is y’all shit on jay when him and big woulda been side by side “The Commission”
I'm a Biggie fan (from the UK), but I also rate Pac highly too. The radio announcement of Pacs death (around 3am) triggered my subconscious mind and woke me up out of my sleep and left me feeling crazy emotions. It was a dark day for hip hop globally. Then, almost a year later...same announcement with Biggie! That's when I knew, losing two of the best... hip hop would never be the same...and it sure wasn't!
I felt the same way when Pac died it was like I lost a big brother and when Biggie died was like losing a best friend....and hip hop has never been the same.... even after Master p took over
No disrespect but 2Pac taught Big the game. Both of these men are very talented and shouldn’t have went out the way they did. Mr Wallace a father and Mr Shakur a father to a lot boys, girls , and men that didn’t have a father. People looked up to Mr Shakur. Children today still sing his music in the streets during the George Floyd riots… it blew my mind that these kids today love 2pac…
nothing against Big but big didn’t put out alot of conscious music like Pac..Pac would of made a bigger impact because o think after he would of got these suckers like Puffy out the way he would of started a vlk political party to help empower blk folks
@@fruitpac there would be no Jay in pac was still alive. Pac talent far exceeded that of Jay. We talking about rapping, movies, directing, producing etc etc.
Biggie was going be like what Jay is doing right now. Major conglomerate in this hip hop game which has conquered every continent. 💯 "Climb the ladder to success escalator style" BIG
@@JohnKing-jz9zb you talking like you know them.. better yet like you know anybody that knows them and they know you. NO YOU DONT!!! Hell.. nobody on this feed knows you either and nobody wants to! Shut up clown 🤡. You sound like a damn male groupie 😂😂😂😂
U know pac had songs he let people here and its videos on RU-vid that never was officially released. And we only know about them because of the makavelli leaks.
Hearing all of these recaps about that time from the 90s Hip-Hop alumni after all those years is heartbreaking. A lot of artists and actors seem to have survivors remorse. Having many years to mature, marry, raise families and wisely reflect shows the pain that these people have now realize they hold. Two young men (among countless others) lost their lives over nothing.
Reason why I never believed that pac westcoast bs. He was not from here and would have eventually turned on us like ue did to NY after breaking up with suge if he lived.
@@jeromelosangels3238 Yeah, its funny. I think Pac was in L.A. for less than 18 months and niggas out there were acting like he carried the flag for them, like they'd die for the nigga. Made no sense and made them seem gullible and without a real identity at the time. The Suge Knight break up was coming, everybody could see that. Those LA murders did irreparable harm to hip hop and none of those dudes were even from out there...
Right, LA had no representation, meanwhile Tupac was throwing up the W, for West Side. Delusional New Yorkers. Even without Tupac, they still had Eazy, Dre, Cube, Coolio, WC.
For Big it's sad in the sense, as someone from the Caribbean you are always told, "nah follow friend', and this is one of the main reasons Big got killed😪
@@trapmuzik6708 Furthermore stop with the fuckery! What good is making anyone rich, if them dead? What kind of mentality you ah work with brother? Yo! More Fire 🔥 for them talk you ah talk😡🔥 What kind of mentor takes you into them situations when you don't have to be there? It's a typical example of how certain friend will get you into some shit 💩! I'm not sure of your age but that album was gonna buss big💥💥💥 even if Biggie never promoted the album fully, and he definitely did not need to go to LA!💯 in that climate😒 Back then if the music was at a certain standard/quality, it promoted its self and people would go and buy it based on how it sounded, not just based on hype, views and likes, very much different than today's mentality, which has people moving mad🤯 and chatting fuckery like you!😤 Regardless if you like Puff or not, he failed to protect his friend or from a business perspective, his biggest asset💰 since you wanna talk bout he made him rich🤨 Really!? Move your self with them talk there!😠
2Pac and Biggie was way ahead of their time. That Era of music was the best EVER! That was real rap. They are turning over in their Graves right now about today's music. And I still say till this day. Half these people making music wouldn't even be known if they was here. Pac said himself when he dies his music will still be hitting!
Pac was actually an Actor first, that rap stuff was second. After Pac did the movie *Gang Related,* Pac was supposed to play the role *Jedi Master Mace Windu* in *Star Wars: Episode I The Phantom Menace.* 2Pac was also gonna play the role *Captain Steven Hiller* in *Independence Day (ID4 1996)* but bc Pac got killed, they gave Jedi to Samuel L Jackson & Captain Steven to Will Smith. It's sad we didn't get to see him be the face of Hollywood. He was about to blow & be much bigger than just his rap career.
Suge Knight blind self is punching the air right now knowing what he did to Biggie and Terry Carter and will never see survive to see parole. Hip hop greatest Karma.
When you hear stories about PAC and Biggie no matter how many times you hear them just know that’s how real shyt was when these two people existed in hip hop. Shyt was real. If you said something out of pocket on Monday yo’a$$ was gon get checked by Tuesday. Catch my drift?…
We still gotta remember pac and biggie was only 25 years old, which is crazy cuz you would of thought they was older. But biggie was definitely playing with fire by coming to LA at that time. Especially him not knowing the LA politics.
back then album were already pressed and folks had copies of they own shit letting magazines and other artists sneak listen before the LABEL put it out
I wanna hear a interview from D rock biggie's homeboy or the driver to the suv big was in, cause we haven't hear nothing from him ever. If Art of dialogue can get them up here it will be something new.
D-rock works for puff, as a bodyguard. I saw a picture of them together at a costume party, dressed as Prince and Company. So I doubt he's going to give a testimony. He's on the payroll.
driver had to be in on it or know why not drive away or anything just sits there bullets fly or think he jumped out of car and on diddys part gene says run the lights or puffy does why would u even do that if u didn’t know somthing was going too or gonna happen so just suss af diddy set that sht up wanting his money from big since he was planning on leaving bad boy
I've heard a lot of accounts of what took place but this was probably the realest way I've ever heard it. Just a real shame we lost these two brothers.
Honest even though many years had passed since they both been gone you just think damn it's so messed up how from 1994-1997 a lot of crazy things happened to them. It's unfortunate that they were young and got killed .Still till this day i still feel the pain from hearing how they both got killed.
frfr, think it's cause he gave more context on the things that was really going on, like them shooting up Guru car. That's what put it into perspective for me.
@@quentinsimpson5908 We can’t factually say Quik was involved but he I’m sure he was aware. It wasn’t a secret that certain people were out lurking around LA waiting for the perfect chance to kill someone from Bad Boy.
All those cats in Goodie Mob - good people. Non thugs, just musicians and good hearts. Southern. Raised well. You will never see any of them ever have any problems like this.
What does telling everyone “ I’m from NY “ before saying Gipp deserves his flowers suppose to mean? Big deal! Who cares your from NY? So what!! Nobody knows you here
@@I_be_e That jus pissed you off huh! Might not be your cup of tea but Live n Let Live my man. Somebody's comment on where they from or what they do shouldn't get to you like that, and if it does thats a "YOU" problem.
I remember after Big passed LA and really Westcoast music scene just seemed like a turn off. Tbh TV shows, Cube movies and the Lakers seemed like the only positive things from LA. Besides that the vibes were shady and grim. Glad it picked up🙏🏾
that was really the only thing that made the west start dropping off in popularity. it would still be a few years before the south came in and took over but after that like you said, people kind of turned away from all the blood/crip stuff in the music. how ironic that all these years later we ended up with the Wayne's, Cardi's, 6ix9ines and everybody else bringing all that stuff back in smh.....
Ain’t nothing changed wit LA. Look at Nipsey n PNB Rock. That’s a dark city to be in if you’re in the streets. Better off going to Disneyland and the tourist sites.
Alot of New Yorkers & Up North people love 2 Pac too.. It was mainly the New York Rappers that tried to team up & go against Pac but Pac wasn't even mad at all of New York Rappers, alot of them was just haters & jealous of Pac
Big was hurt and probably knew Puffy had a hand in 2Pac's killing. I miss both 2Pac and Biggie, rap would be soooooo much better of they in their 50s were still rapping.
Yes they did FOI HAS ALOT OF ROGUE PEOPLE IN IT I HAD A EX MANAGER THAT USED TO WORK FOR DIDDY STILL DO AND HE TRIED TO BLOOD SACRAFICE ME I SURVIVED NOW HE'S LOOKING AT YEARS WITHOUT SEEING THE SUN JUST LIKE DIDDY NOW HE WANTS TO TALK AND MAKE THINGS RIGHT NO DEAL I WANT THEM BEHIND BARS THEY DESTROYED A GENERATION BEHIND FOOLISHNESS AFTER BIGGIE AND 2PAC THEY STILL ON DUM SHIT.
@claudebanks9170 right no one arguing, this is footage that don't come on cnn,fox, youtube allows us to hear from of our people. RU-vid wasn't available in 1996 for us to hear Big Gipp telling us what he witnessed.
