Italian made 1851 Navy revolver shoot out 

I wish you'd make a drawing to come visit and shoot with you for a day.

Morning coffee and watching Mike nothing better 👍🏻☕️👍🏻

I've been rolling up paper cartridges using cigarette papers & just regular lead round ball for many many years now. I whittled a small wooden mandrel with a flat bottom to wrap the papers around, fold the paper as such so that the bottom will be flat, and use a tiny amount of Elmer's glue to hold the paper together at the bottom along with spreading a thin layer around the top to hold the round ball securely in, leaving the top half of the lead round ball exposed. This makes for nicely formed & sturdy paper cartridges which are easy to load. I carry the paper cartridges in an empty tobacco can in my back pocket. It's possible to load + cap all 6 cylinders on a .36 or .44 revolver in 45 - 50 seconds or so (when using a capping tool). I like to walk around my farm and plink, so the paper cartridges make this far easier when plinking around with a blackpowder revolver.

Darn good shooting overall, and a very informative video regardless! The front sight fitment on your Uberti looks like a mod very well executed. Nice pistola!

Great shoot out. 1860 look cool but the 1851 awesome.

Mr. Mike I never noticed until today that your pour spout is a necked down cartridge brazed onto a top. Very cleaver and a great new idea for me. Thanks.

I like Uberti revolvers better mostly because of the hidden Italian markings under the loading lever and the grip is closer to a Colt than the Pietta but they seem to shoot close to the same. Both need work out of the box to be reliable.

Thanks for your great videos! Always informative and entertaining too!

Love my Griswald pietta in 36. I use 375 and they group well.

Awesome show!! Thank You Very Much!!

Thanks for another good video Mike.

These shoot outs are great. Great video Mike.

Good to see you at the range again! Love your work!

Another great video Mike! Thanks so much for all you do.

Nice video Mike. I found it quite interesting. Thank you.

Thank you for a great video. I enjoyed it and appreciate the information.

Mike Mike Mike! Cool video, sir!

Thanks for your videos, I love them all!

Been watching your channel for some years now Mike and I really enjoy you content - Ron

Thanks for a great video, Mike! Boy, that Uberti is a shooter!

Great Video as always! John Taffin has been one of my favorites for Years!

Great video Mike - and some nice shooting! I really appreciate these comparisons; I always wondered how the different brands compared in their approaches.

Thanks Mike very informative.

Another cracking video Mike.....your so understated pure historical whatever the era....🇬🇧👍

I loved that "old" smoking guns, great Video, thank you Mr. Mike!

Great Video, it looks like you had fun out there.

Thanks for this vid.

Great video! I enjoy all the information you share.

I have an 1858 Remington. I like it. But, I have wanted an 1851 Colt for a longer time.. .36 appeals to me.

Great video Mike, I have always enjoyed black powder revolver shooting.

Awesome videos Mike, keep them coming…

Another great vid. 👍

Thanks for video.

Thanks, Mike. I really enjoyed this video. I am slowly catching up on my RU-vid videos after watching the June 6th D-Day anniversary videos for a while. I ordered a Johnston & Dow .44 mold from Eras Gone last week, so this video was very timely. I ordered the book on making cartridges and intend to put it to good use. Thanks very much.

thank you

Month and a half without rain, man last year 2022 les than 7 inches of moisture! The drought is very bad. Good video as always!

A fine comparison between these two Mike and I Thank You. I was cheering for the Pietta since I have one but as you say and indeed so, every gun and shooter vary. But how historically fun regardless! Many Blessings! And Good Shootin! DaveyJO in Pennsylvania

Great vid Mike! I've collected and shot Piettas since 75' and they have come a long way in quality since then. Still require some smoothing and final finishing and tweaking here and there, but truth be told I enjoy tinkering with them almost as much as I enjoy shooting them.

Good job Mike thank you very much

Great video, Mike. I do like these videos and think they show what the guns can do with minor clean up and mods. If the 'bones' were not there they would not be able to be improved to get this kind of accuracy. Keep up the good work and I will be there next week to join you in your video. Bye. 😉

Great video Mike. That Uberti is a shooter.

Great video, thank you for sharing!

Thanks for a great video.

Still weird seeing you load six after all these years. But not complaining by any means. Being from Brooklyn I had never even known about vultures outside of the south and west. Driving a truck few years back in upstate NY I saw something crawling on a dead deer on the roadside. In the shadows it looked and crept like a giant spider. Scared me to my nuts. Found out it was a turkey vulture. Creepy bastard. Thanks for listening( reading).

Now there needs a test of how the navy Remingtons will do .

Hi Mike, I bought a couple of 1851 navy colts from cimmaron about 7 years ago. Very pleased with the way they perform.

Love your videos mike!! You should do one video with conversion cylinders in the 1851s! I absolutely love my uberti with both stock cylinder and my conversion cylinder! It’s super fun small game hunting with! Keep up the great work and I’m rooting for your duelist den ordeal!

My first handgun was a CVA 1861 36 cal navy, I bought a Lee .380" conical mold and used that gun a lot in the woods. I could never get a load to match the sights but knew where it hit by Kentucky windage and had a lot of fun with it. Wished I had known about paper cartridges back then (I was 14 years old) as would have made reloading faster.

Great video.

As they say, that Pietta was made after lunch. Lunch in Italy is traditionally from 1-4. Ubertis are always a little more expensive, so maybe that's why. Either way, we have to thank the boys in Brescia and guys like Mike Harvey (Cimmaron) and Boyd Davis (E.M.F.) for making these repros available. I don't't have either, but am in the market for one. My cartridge CAS pistols are E.M.F. Piettas, and they are excellent. Great vid. Justin Castro's smoke has cleared down here in Mayberry. It wasn't as bad as as PA or NY. A friend of mine mistakenly shot a vulture on the groind during the PA fall turkey season back in the 70s when we had very few. He did not take it home for Thanksgiving, LOL. We're of the vintage where we only saw vultures in cowboy movies. They now follow me around sometimes on my farm near Mayberry, kinda creepy! A feral piglet got roadkilled in front of my property and there was about 50 vultures hanging around.

I was very glad you mentioned the short arbor. I have an UbertI 3rd model dragoon and I was considering doing something about the short arbor, however I do not shoot in competition and shoot it only occasionally, so your comments helped me make my decision. I would love to see a comparison between the 1858 Remingtons.

Very Nice - Thanks ! ! ! 🙂😎👍

Thanks my friend and nice shooting.... Shoe🇺🇸

Good job,Mike. Love your videos. I don't think that I've ever owned an Uberti.

Great review 😎👍

Thanks for another great comparison video. I recently lost the front sight on my Uberti 1851 at the range. Maybe I will check into getting a silver blade sight installed.

Another great video Mike. I have a 1861 navy, not shot it yet. , have a 1862 Police, i have shot many times. I made paper cartridges using cigarette papers. Not bad at 10 yards. I de burred and smoothed the action via your videos. Thank you for all you do. Cheers

I always wondered if loading the sprue up affects the aerodynamics of the ball in flight. I may try reversing them next time I get the pistolas out.

thank you for the John Gurnee book reference. I picked one up.

25 years ago I did a test on a original 36 colt. The round ball was more accurate. I found this pistol the man I got it from his , father was a confederate doctor. He got the pistol from a union officer. The battle was Mansfield louisiana. Doctor was Mr. Hayden from Center Texas.

Shocking! The Pietta cannot possibly be that bad????😳

Another great video, Mike. I think that the reason people get such different results in this kind of test is that these revolvers come from the factory at different levels of quality, so that I have had some Piettas that were excellent and others that were less so, while the only Uberti I have had is an utter piece of crap. That last group was incredibly strange; I just shot my Pietta Navy a few weeks ago, and got a string test measurement of 2.4 in./rd. (not group size, String Test, so it took into account both the size of the string and the distance from the mean point of impact to the intended mean point of impact or bullseye) with Eras Gone conicals in paper cartridges. Nor is my Pietta a great one--this is a piece I have had a lot of problems with. But 2.4 in./rd. is nothing to sneeze at, and that last group in the video would have been closer to 10 in./rd. or more. I am wondering of those hard bullets might not have been a factor--the Uberti's rifling might just be better with harder lead, maybe?

I love my Uberti. Great shootout comparison.

Excellent video Mr. Mike! I Keep up the good work and don't let the buzzards get you! 🤠

Thanks for demo 👍☕️☕️✌️

Cool man cool. I want that front sight.

I like that front sight on the uberti 1851 navy. Do you do a video on that modification?

Nice one pawpaw 😊

very informative video👍👍👌👌

I think the Pieta is very good with both RB and conical. Mike , you’re a very good shooter

That 8 inch group is something. I love this serie.

Watching your testing videos really makes me want to go buy one of these from a sutler at Gettysburg.

Those crafty Italians 🇮🇹

Noticed track of the wolf had some nice dovetail looking sights in nickel silver colored metal. Not sure what size would be best on the Navy though, glad to see you pulled it off successfully

Very good test. The Uberti did well. I have always been a fan of the Uberti. Keep these coming my friend.

I would love to see you do this same test with your 1st and 2nd gen colt 51 navys

Good videos always occur when you "get to make a lot of smoke".

My Uberti 1851 RM is one of a few revolvers that I enjoy shooting. I'm getting custom grips made for it.

I just picked up an almost unfired 1989 Uberti 1851 Navy. It's all steel with a case color hardened frame and loading lever. The trigger guard and grip strap are brass.

Great video. Been watching videos on black powder guns and thinking getting into them. So regardless of which gun I get it may need some work done on it.😢 oh well I guess I should build a Time Machine get one from Colt back in 1863.

Good morning from Syracuse NY brother and thank you for sharing your thoughts and information about the old fashion weapons and the facts and truth and history my friend and no surrender brother

Agree John Taffin is great!

Excellent shooting . I bought a .44 cal Pietti years ago .never been shot . I believed there was excessive smokie powder discharge. Looking forward to shooting it when I find the powder and projectiles.

Ancestral memory vultures, when there was a civil war battle they got fed after.

Seems as if Uberti is more accurate, and more importantly, *CONSISTANTLY* accurate.

The results from your 1860 Army and the 1851 Navy tests both seem to show the superiority of the Uberti. I have a Navy Arms 1860 Army that I bought way back in the early 80's when they still had the retail store in Ridgefield NJ. I'm not sure, but I do believe that the percussion revolvers that Navy sold back then were made by Pietta. Mine gets accuracy similar to your tests with round ball. I can't wait to try conicals. Great test Mike!

Really like the shoot out format, Mike.

Great video Mike! I love the shoot outs. The turkey buzzards around here circle me when I’m weed eating. 😂

A lot of as always!

I didnt get a good look at the conical bullet, but it looks like the .36 Richmond Lab that Mark Hubbs sells at eras gone bullet molds. I purchased one of those molds a couple months back, it makes a perfect bullet, after cleaning and prepping, they were dropping out fast and easy.

I was under the impression that the uberti had a 1:32 pitch for 36cal and only the 44cal had the 1:18 pitch

I use a 3d printer to make my own 12 rd boxes . I do like the looks of those paper boxes

Interesting! Some surprises, considering twist rates. Interesting that the change in point of impact with change of load was not the same with both guns.

Mike great video as always! After I get home n settled at the new farm.I want you to come n visit go hunting with me. Thank God the smoke is clearing a little.

i ended up getting a gun from someone that new nothing about black powder guns. for 100 bucks he sold me a 1851 navy pietta and 5 lbs of black and i thought nothing about it and did not really look at the gun because i needed the black and 5 lbs was a good deal for 100 bucks. after shooting it for a few years i took a closer look at it. the serial number was 538 i thought that was a very low number. then it said navy arms co, on the side it said made in Italy under that it has g/u found out it was the first year of navy arms ubirti made guns 1958 and it is in very good condition.

I just didn't want to spend the extra for Uberti. I've been happy with all of my Piettas so far. I don't shoot my .36 Piettas much, so the .44s see more action when I'm in a black powder mood.

Interesting video regardless of outcome, my old second hand Uberti 1851 was more accurate than a new Pietta I bought later but I put in down to the Pietta having a shorter barrel. I hear that Pietta have have improved the quality of their revolvers in the last few years.

Canadian wildfire smoke? Last weekend we had the Ontario Provincial blackpowder championships. I joked that with the poor air quality we were releasing sulphurous smoke into the atmosphere.

back some powder off and i bet the groups tighten up on the piette for conc and round ball is easier to load and round ball flattens with 21 grains up close like

could Mikes bias toward Oberti manifest itself in a shoot off? he is a good shooter and especially with black powder anything.