I’m not Brazilian. I’m American. And Italia completely outperformed griffin. He did multiple rotations, which griffin didn’t do… he did airdrops into barrels that were much longer and deeper than griffins… he even had more variety in turns…. Not to mentioned he landed far more radical airs on the wave than griffins 2ft ollie at the end of his wave… This makes me want to stop watching WSL.
Yeah, I know Brazilians complain about being underscored and sometimes itʻs not valid, but this time Italo beat Colapinto on his first two waves. Way more critical, just barely getting in to his longer deeper tube rides just after fitting in a radical top turn and airdrop into position, and consistently radical. Colapinto did well but he should not have won; thatʻs some crappy judging. Carrisa Moore was dominant and should have won her heat for sure so they at least got that one right. Menʻs final seems rigged to me.
WSL is looking for there next product to sale and that’s Griffin Colapinto, Kelly Slater is old and ready to retire they need another American 🇺🇸 icon Griffin has the personality the skills he’s from California sponsored by Lost surfboards it’s all about the product they want to sell. In 🏄♂️ surfing Italo won hands down
Actually no. Grif’s frontside had more variety, more fin and rail engagement. Italo’s backside had the best tube ride, more variety and speed. Grif’s Left could have been a 8.50? Yes maybe 8.70 was overscored. Italo’s left could have been a 9? Yes for sure, maybe he was underscored. Grif’s right was pristine with great finish - could have been a 9.10? Yes for sure but never less. Italo’s right had the best tube ride but weak finish, could have been more a 8.50? Yes. Now do the maths and Grif is still the fair winner by a small margin and thats competition at is highest because they are 2 great surfers.
Disgrace. I’m Australian and I say Italo should have been scored higher. How is it that the judges scores extremely differently on every wave yet what should have been a 9 they all scored extremely similar. Disgusting of the judges. Boycott WSL
I thought the score was fair. He did the same turn 3 times in a row. At the top of the criteria for this event is variety. If this were skating or snowboarding the score would have been pushed down by that. Which this event basically is. Which is why it sucks. The poo man stance also hurts him imo
@@Connor-hi2yq still better than Griff’s 9.07! Way more radical, faster with more flow! Griffin got over scored! I’m a So Cal guy so naturally I was rooting for Griffin… I stand by my first comment!
SO TRUE!! AND HAS BEEN FOR DECADES. AND I CAN PROVE IT: 'NO OTHER scored sport, gymnastics/diving/skating/MMA/Boxing/snowboarding....will hold scores until the competitor has made their next performance; TO SLOT THEIR SCORES'. IT'S UNHEARD OF!! HERE at the Surf Ranch they were left to just outright CHEATING! Hey, maybe the good news is this time they weren't cheating out of their terror of having Aussies rat-pack them, as they have been for 20 years.
While I thought Italo surfed great and was underscored, he desserved at least a 9 for that underscored wave... his surfing was more varied than Griff, the power surfing and flow clearly in Grifs favor. Some of the power turns on the high score Grif got were insane. Italos small size is less impressive throwing spray. Its a contrast of styles and as an old school surfer POWER RULES! Brazilians STOP WHINNING, Griff has been underscored constantly in the past few years and lost many heats as a result. Watch how "fair " the judging is in El Salvador and Brazil contest.
Assistir essa palhaçada, e repetidas vezes confirmar que o resultado não foi esse , a WSL nunca deveria postar esse vídeo, flagrante perpétuo de sua parcialidade.
It would be interesting if the WSL did online polls after results of the heats for viewers to decide who they think won. It also would further delegitimize the bias judges who appear to be choosing winners based on narratives and story lines in order to create exciting new stars.
@@LucasMelhad0 letting viewers vote for the winner is so hilariously stupid. If that was done in any major sport, the team with the largest fan base would win. Same with surfing, Brazil has a massive fanbase so fans would overwhelmingly want the Brazilian to win over the non-Brazilian in a 1v1 scenario.
Critérios novos da WSL - comprometimento e grau de garfada - garfadas inovadoras e progressivas - combinação de grandes garfadas - variedade de garfadas/repertório - garfada, força e fluidez
Italo's speed, power, and flow was way superior to Colapintos - like on another level level. No way he was the 2nd surfer in this heat. Underscored comparatively on the first wave, no doubt.
speed and power maybe. Flow? No way. Grif was way smoother. Italo looked very hectic on all his waves. Like he was forcing every single maneuver. Honestly they could have given it either way.
@@dannilosoares1775 Chega de choradeira. Porra. Xenofobia. Tá louco? Tem juízes brasileiros a dar as notas aos surfistas e os brasileiros ainda falam de xenofobia? Minha nossa senhora. Desde 2017 só brasileiros a ganharem o tour e ainda falam de xenofobia? Muitos de vocês sofrem é de um grande complexo de inferioridade e pensam que todo mundo quer algum mal dos brasileiros. Comecem mas é a resolver os vossos próprios problemas que devem ser poucos não...já chega
I don't know what these judges are doing against the Brazilians, first a 9.07 for Ethan against Medina, then against Ítalo, besides this shameful final, it makes you not want to watch it anymore, wsl what a shame, pure trickery!
Já. Está perdendo a credibilidade 😮😢 muitos faturam , ainda vamos era muito no futuro 😅 app do celular já tirei fora , só vejo tudo depois do resultado meu ipop ao vivo não+
Listen to Turpel after Italo's left wave say that it's probably all over, expected a 9+. Listen to Strider's surprise earlier at Colapinto's 9.07. There was a moment of disbelief. Italo was the better surfer.
I keep thinking the judges were trying to set it up for Italo to win on the last wave....frontside, to make it, what they thought would be more exciting...then he unexpectedly went down.
@@scottthomasen8978 Yeah that could b true I didn't rhink of that. Italos was def surfing better ur right they prob just wanted to build up the drama then IF fell....lame either way
@Septic Hank It really went sideways when Griff got that 9. Staying consitant with the other scores that was around. 6 to .8 too high. Just seemed like they were ratcheting it up for what then came next to keep building hype. With that machine wave it becomes way easier to get a gauge on the scores....that 9 was off and the timing suspect. What sucks is this was lame for both Italo and Griff. These guys both work so hard and have reached such high levels, to have this mess thrown on them. I am sorry for both of these rippers.
What a shame! The soft Colapinto should step ahead WSL representatives, excuse himself to the rest of the world and give the Champion Trophy to the actual winner of this event, Italo Ferreira. WSL has been destroying a reputation of more than 70 years of surfing as a serious competition sport with these biased judgements it has been supporting in order to unconditionally restore the US dominance on this now worldwide sport.
Hey. Don't go after Colapinto for a turd that was, perhaps, put in his pocket...and call him "soft." Your argument is fine without slamming Griff like that. Think Italo would have done that is the roles were reversed? I don't know if he would have, but I certainly wouldn't have slammed him for being put in a position he didn't cause.
@@scottthomasen8978 I did not have any intention at all to slam Griff, by the way, one of the top surfers of the circuit. If you observe my translation to Portuguese above the English version, I called him SUAVE and EDUCADO. If you do not understand Portuguese, feel free to use Google Translator and confirm that both words are not at sall offensives to anybody... However, I agree with you that the adjective SOFT I used at the English may lead to a controversial interpretation. Thanks for your feedback!
@Coral Ahhh. Got it. Thanks for the clarification. The rest of your comment was so well thought out that the "soft" part did stand out as odd! Language...and btw your written English is solid! Can you imagine anyone handing the trophy to anyone else though and how that would completely blow up! Years back I watched the US Olympic boxing team just completely get robbed in South Korea. Same set up where the US team was from very humble beginnings and were all great guys, got totally robbed by the judges, and when the opponents were given the fights they just had to stand there awkwardly. I will be interesting to hear if the judges come back and explain their thought process. I hope the result may be both Italo and Griff can come out with a deserved positive from their insane efforts and abilities....this has been a bummer thus far. Cheers
Griff 1st 2 waves where very similar with Kelly's 1st Round IMO. Kelly's pushing through the lip on his 2nd barrel was incredible though (i think was Kelly's wave number 2 during first round...). But going back to compare Kelly's score and Griff first 2 waves was imo very similar to as scores given at least for those 2 waves. Just for References 📑📑 Going back to this final Heat i agree with you guys, Italo's waves have been underscored.
I'm a huge Italo's fan, but let's be objective here. Italo's first and second right weren't as good as griffin's 9'07 nor 8'7. Italo's turns weren't as radical as griffin's. Yes, he had a longer barrel on both rides but he wasn't enough deep, he was visible all the time. His maneuvers were repetitive and didn't even got to the air. If he would have smashed an air instead of repeiting the same throw-tail reverse again and again, he would have won, but he didn't. Griffin was more radical, better timed, had more variety on his turns and maneuvers. He surfed better and won fairly. Stop with the "judges hate me because I'm brazilian" argument.
I think Italo just threw that last wave cause he realized no mater how good he surfed it , the judges were against him and he’d lose regardless. Sad honestly and I’m more of a griffin fan but this was just blatant
@@heyman8820 So what? He is an employee, it’s not about where the judges came from is who they are tell to benefit. And it’s clear who was it. Medina vs Griffin was ridiculous. Italo vs Griffin was also a joke. Don’t pretend u didnt notice.
Look at Italo's reaction to the scoring on his first waves. He is sportsmanlike but really expressing what we all saw and thought, WTF JUST HAPPENED!!!!!!😮😢
@@DCfurnfe-vp1mz u don't even know what u talking about... U don't understand how the championship works and keeps talking shit. It doesn't matter that he fell at his last wave, Griffin fell too, whoever has the best sum wins, and Italo already surfed an amazing left before this fell
Colapinto's first moments in each wave, were just navigating the waves , then some soft turns, until he got some rythm. Ferreira's were solid and heavy turns from the very beginning of each wave. The wave that he got right to the tube from a step down, that was a 10. What kind of game is this? Totally biased.
Griffin's second right should be 8.5 whereas Italo's second right was a 9.5 in my opinion. That 360 in the middle of the ride was far more risky than any of Griffin's turns. This competition should reward progression, innovation and flow more than anything. Italo had the best overall performance in this final, undoubtedly. It is important for WSL to think about what is happening with the judging panel and criteria as many heats are controversial. Of course surfing is a sport with subjective element, but in a controlled environment such as the surf ranch it is clear that the judging has an issue that must be addressed for the good development of the sport.
They did reward flow. Italo's waves were all very hectic. Not smooth at all. I will agree he was more exciting to watch but Grif was way smoother and stylish. Honestly I don't really care either way. They both surfed great.
This gets to a point that keep rattling around my head with scoring this sort of controlled environment. This, and in my opinion sadly, is a format much like and certainly heading towards gymnastics floor routines. The way those are scrored it deducting points for errors in set "moves" that need to be performed and cocideration given to more difficult "moves." I don't want surfing to come to this as a person who loves flow and power mostly, but it seems there is a tear happening where some are pulling it the gymnastics routine way and others the power flow way. Squaring scoring with this in mind will be tough. I think this is also a problem, or for some a benifit, of running a contest out of the water and in a machine.
Faz 20 anos que fazem isso..mais hoje o roubo foi descarado...no Brasil tem que a ver protesto..de todos os surfistas e torcida ..contra a wsl..por um surf limpo..
Pls explain, how do surfers in this event get ~8.5 scores when they dont complete the last maneuver and here italos first right is a 8.13? I cant understand
Rapaziada hoje foi sinistro de mais kkkkkk a wsl tá metendo a mão com gosto e cada etapa vai perdendo credibilidade e não tá nem aí, mas tava muito na cara que eles não ia deixar outra etapa vim para o Brasil, ainda mais a onde
Parcial e caseiro. Etapa nos EUA vence um norte-americano, assim como na Austrália eles também são muito favorecidos. É muito vergonhoso isso, e cansativo. É muita má vontade com os brasileiros que pra ganhar tem que surfar ondas muito acima do que necessitam pra vencer
@Lucas To your point, it happened in Brazil as well during the stop last year. What is odd to me was the 2 judges who scored Italo lowest were the Brazilian judges! Maybe all thought Italo would win it on the last wave and that would make it more exciting?
@@tapeworm6093 bruh, ítalo was superior in every single detail in that final. I really like griffin’s surf and I think he’s a great surfer for sure, but that’s a SHAME for wsl and also for griffins career.
@@matheusbe5040 clearly you’re biased. If you’re a seasoned surfer you would know that the combo of major moves Griff did were by far more powerful and stylish . And italo fell. You can believe whatever you want, but the WSL is not going to make everyone happy. Individual sports touches so many different aspects that you don’t understand
After JJF was out, we were all rooting for "great surfing" and sane judging. Well, we've had great surfing for sure! But, come on guys, this judging was a travesty! 😂
The saddest part about the whole thing was when they interviewed Italo in the awards ceremony you can really see him frustrated, and holding back in his speach That loss could cause serious psychological damage in an athlete's life. It is beyond criminal. Professional surfers doesn't deserves that.
Yes, they do lose money when Brazilians win. Viewership drops everywhere but Brazil, which makes advertisers and sponsors weary of staying in the game. So why are Brazilians the least popular surfers globally? Easy answer: too f-ing aggro and violent. Ethan Ewing received death threats from Brazilians after the judges gave him the nod over Medina. A woman was physically assaulted in Indo by a Brazilian after HIS friend blatantly burned her. And the violence continued on land. No other surfing nation and its people resort to such insanity and mayhem with such flagrant consistency. If Brazilians don’t CTFO the WSL will have to cancel all events in Brazil just to protect tour surfers. Seriously, man, WTF is it gonna take for Brazilians to get the message and stop being the biggest a-holes at every lineup on the planet🤔🤷🏼♂️ Brazil, you’re doing this to yourselves. Lift your game and embrace civility. After all, y’all claim to be a deeply Christian nation but there’s no evidence of this.
@@coral9597the WSL is a money pit. It bleeds millions annually. But here’s the rub: literally the only reason viewers log off when Brazilians advance is because of the bad reputation they’ve cultivated globally. Yea, there are really cool and chill Brazilians but a disproportionate percentage of them are excessively aggressive, violent, and greedy wave hogs. This has been a well established fact for a very long time. Even Daniel Tosh did a bit about it. Brazilians have got to learn to get along with others. They’re finally a serious force in surfing and deservedly so. But rubbing everyone’s noses on this success like a dog’s face in a pile of poo is a serious turn-off. Sore losers are bad enough but no one likes sore winners.
Italo is the people’s champion… should start his own series, WSL lost my interest and all my friends and families interest… lots of generations of interest lost today
I get that you score each event differently but you then should reward the creativity. The scores for this are horrific and its a shame as this will only add to peoples agenda. You can see why.
exactly my man, its been a shame what wsl judges are doing, even people out of Brasil are saying the same, to dont be a Brazilian cry, but it's been ridiculous
The WSL is a loosing money machine. The billionaire that owns the WSL makes money by deducting the WSL losses from his federal taxes. I think he wants to sell the WSL and the WSL price would be higher with an austrialian or american world champ
The WSL really is completely fkd at this point, Italo's power and intensity is no match for Griffin here but gets totally under scored for it. The whole judging panel needs a complete revamp or some re-education, there is some conscious or sub-conscious bias going on. I always thought the Brazilian bias and complaining was kind of funny but now taking sides with it.
Tenho pena dos atletas brasileiros. Há sempre roubo, conspirações etc. tanto trabalho investido e raramente são avaliados pelo seu surf, é sempre outra coisa. Torcedores assim não querem o melhor para o seu atleta, só querem levar a vitória, a taça, roubar o esforço do atleta para dizer “é nosso” quando não é. Esse tipo de torcedor que abunda por aqui é que é a maior vergonha do surf e do país.
@@Aian1982 estás a falar de duas ondas que nem contaram para a pontuação 😂 vai dormir mas antes vê as baterias dos outros atletas também para perceberes que eles deram 8’s a muitos atletas, incluindo brasileiros, que fizeram alta onda mas caíram no final.
@@agathondmiurgus of course says the Brazilian fan mate you need to watch them again Italian fell half way through a wave none of his waves had as critical turns and he spent too much time in the barrel to get a good score anyone could just sit in the pit for extra time turns are scoring better griffs turns we’re much more impactful and italos we’re not drifting the fins attacking steeper sections that’s why he lost nothing to do with theft
Southern California native saying Italo got robbed. I for sure felt like he had at least a low 9 on his second right and how did one judge give him a 7.8? I seriously dont get what else he could have done. You want him to give a point of different, well he did with the deepest, longest tube of the event and multiple rotations. Griffen surfed relatively safe and Italo deserved that win. I was so soured after that final.
Colapinto did not complete any waves. Give the title to Colapinto or Ewing at once They harmed 3 Brazilians at once. Entreguem o troféu de campeão mundial para o Colapinto ou Ethan Ewing de uma vez. A WSL nem disfarçou e prejudicou 3 brasileiros.
Sem os brasileiros a wsl tinha um final, ficava uma marca com pouco valor, mas os brasileiros precisam porque é o ganha pão deles. Hoje concordo que os juizes foram parciais para o americano, o Italo foi melhor.
