Italy's falling birth rate is a crisis that's only getting worse 

And yet, the politicians don’t seem to get that.

Ir has been like that for centuries!!!!!

@@4lugan Idk about that. My dad supported family of 5 on a new teacher salary in 2000 in Turkey. I started teaching this year in the US and I'm panicking after my roommate left the house, so I'll have to pay the whole rent.

It's more than just for economic reasons; many people see what mass 3rd world migration is doing to Europe and they don't want to rear children in such an environment. I agree though, the primary reason is the economy.

I clearly understand what you mean but it is not a reason . And facts are even showing it is exactly the contrary that is happening . Poor countries have the highest birth rate , this is a fact.

The main problem is rapidly growing infertility. Maybe they shouldn't target surrogacy!

Falling birthrates are not a problem if you want to stop pensions for the elderly and let them starve to death and if you want to see a big drop in GDP collapsing the economy as businesses cannot pay their bank loans with reduced economic activity. Why do you thing governments are panicking about falling birthrates?

italy shud replace Christianity with izlam. inshallah

​@@Queerz4Palestein no, better the old gods

@@paolomartinelli345 I'm a hindu from India, Currently living in Rome, my reasons to choose Rome was I really liked the anime called JoJo's Bizarre adventure which is the image I had for Italy, then food, I don't need to explain about Italian cuisine, Another Reason was history,I mean, I really like your old gods like Fortuna, minerva, apollo and jove.They all feel so special to me It was so rich and complex until it was changed into something a bit more monotonous but hey, to each their own.

​@@paolomartinelli345 let's make a new religion

Personally, I think it might be worse in Italy because immigration is inflating the numbers

And those countries have zero immigration and net migration. Especially China.

Birthrates dropped worldwide ☝🏿🧐

Thailand too and here's there's no housing crisis and people are dating a lot. Still barely no kids

China is huge. They can easily recover. They sustained overpopulation 30 years back, they can sustain under population by the next 30 years easily too.

That’s an exceptionally intelligent concept lol. Yes, having a suicidal rate is so smart.

😂​@@aminahmad2595

​@@aminahmad2595 Suicidal rate ? not having kids isn't suicide...

No, my friend, we are not at all.We have destroyed this country. We complain about the political class and sell ourselves for 20 dollars....

​@aminahmad2595 u can't force people to have kids though, so what's ur solution

Quite opposite. In medieval peasants had to have children in order to pay all the taxes. Needed an extra pair of hands to work so they can pay up so they were getting kids.

Do you think in the XIX century it was easier? What about the XX century ?

Did the thought that we may have evolved just a tiny bit from the XIX/XXth century where workers didn't have rights, women belonged in the kitchen and life was quite miserable cross your mind, yeah? ​@4lugan

​@Speedkam it's not the middle ages, technically, Italy is the 8th largest world economy... we live in 2024, not 1024?!

@@Speedkam Did you build your own wooden hut next to your occupation, or do you need a mortgage to buy a home? Do you have your own livestock? Or do you need to pay supermarket prices after mass distributors’ mark ups? Do you walk five minutes to work, or do you need a car? Do you give your children a smack in the mouth when they don’t shut up, or refuse to pay your taxes, or are you likely to get locked up for that and so see buying toys as the only option, will you let your family chance it and die young of horrible diseases and rotten teeth, or do you need to foot medical bills, etc. etc. It seems the comparison is somewhat anachronistic.

The only people who claim to be stoic are teenagers and young adults who watch too many youtube videos on marcus aurelius made with AI images and AI voiceover

The main problem is rapidly growing infertility. Maybe they shouldn't target surrogacy!

And more and more extinct.

Capitalism is always hungry for new slaves

With a fall birth rate and young skilled people moving abroad, the numbers will help more, it’s a concerning situationship in Italy but the Goverment is a joke

No. People have figured out how more awesome it is to watch RU-vid rather than raise kids.

In 2020, Argentina’s fertility rate - i.e. the expected number of offspring for every woman - fell to 1.55, the lowest number in history, even below countries like Sweden or Norway. Good luck seeking immigrants from a country without youth.

Europeans have this guilty complex, they rather to import people from countries that hate them and expect them to be subservient to them, I am ethnic italian, my both parents are italian, born in South America, moved to Italy when I was a teenager, as soon I completed 18 I left Italy, why? Bcs I was a foreigner in my own land, I faced discrimination not in the face2face as many other immigrants but hidden, so, if they want to take these “extra-Italians” back they need to learn how to treat them as equals.

They give them passports, they go to Spain for the language or UK and Germany for the money. They should force a language exam and a at least one year experience in Italy to allow them to have the passport, this would help a lot. I met lot of them and they were not able to speak any Italian but hold the passport,which is kinda weird.

Yes. There are hundreds of Italian descendants on the American continent, including me. But many of them cannot afford the citizenship process or do not speak Italian. The Italian government could finance the process for families, provide free Italian courses for these families, incentives for these descendants to undertake business, etc. The language barrier and Italian bureaucracy make them prefer to go to countries like Spain, Portugal, Ireland, before the Brexit, the United Kingdom... Because they speak Portuguese, Spanish or English.

@@Hawkguyy they should start an advertising campaign like Argentina and Uruguay did a hundred years ago encouraging Italians to settle there. They could use Lionel Messi (😆) but as you said make it much simpler to get citizenship. Italy has a lot of houses for 1 euro! With permits and repairs you could have a decent house for 40,000 euros.

and owning nothing, eating ze bugs and being happy!

@@scottwebb4722 zero jabs, zero swabs here

You will be whatever the secret organization that governs all these countries wants.

Few money? Where? In Italy??

You can start yourself by actually following Catholic doctrine and not using contraception. I always hear Fellow Catholics complaining however they don't follow the sacred teachings. If no Catholic couple used contraception, we would be the fastest growing religion and not Islam!

@@TheReichoflightThat’s the thing. We know it’s a numbers game for the thugs who caused the problem!

@@miriamwells35 Who are the thugs that caused the problem?

@@TheReichoflight GEWS

@@matheenarif8645 No, we ALL copped it including Jews in their millions who bore the brunt of the blame for their crazy counterparts who wanted a holy land.

What a refreshing point of view!

Dude you need to see doctor

This is actually your consciousness level and totally fine , even I feel the same😂

yeah you're depressed. Maybe it's time to wonder who and what did that to you, and why.

@@backintimealwyn5736 you can’t diagnose people via RU-vid comments 😂

It’s bad when the refugees become the majority

Lol, the forests were cut centuries ago to make space for fields. You do have a point, though. Many are starting families abroad.

What will replace consumers? What will businesses make if there is no one to buy?

@@gregvanpaassenbingo

Nah Italians have no ability to create Ai or even implement them 😂

@@gregvanpaassenImmigration might be a solution. Italy is pretty closed to legal and illegal immigration. If it would open at least to legal immigration population decrease wouldn’t be such a big problem.

@@greenlime8726 But those immigrants won't have jobs, because AI is replacing workers (in donnpatez101's scenario). So they have no money to buy anything, so they don't help.

Eventually, there won't be enough fans to fill the stadiums and generate revenue

That's because you don't understand even the very basics of economics.

What a genius 😂😂

No, the problem is that falling birthrate means an excessive number of elders, too many elders means less taxpayers and the government forced to spend more and more resources on them, leaving the young completely burdened. Regarding overpopulation: in the west, a good chunk of Asia and now even S.America, the birthrates are falling all over the place. The only place on earth where births are exploding is subsaharian Africa

I agree with reducing population but without importing millions of migrants which change the ethnicities of Europe

It's all pro ganda to force Mass Migration. As you rightly say Italy would be fine with 30m people. Of course the EURO is another mechanism to squeeze the Italian living conditions to be too high and wages not pay enough to support families in high living costs. remove EURO and devalue the Lira was always the solution in the past to make living conditions affordable and bring in investment and promote export. It's a massive con by the politicians on the people of Europe - been going on for decades. All while they bleat about sustainability: The best way to do that is to reduce population of consuming people back to lower numbers! In the interim AI will take on more productivity inevitably. Government spending is clearly massively out of control and the political institutions only care to prop up their power structures stealing the money off people via taxation without consent.

Yeah, expecting your Partner to treat you with respect is crazy. Or do you mean all the t xic people on Dating Apps? Only Bottom of the Barrell people use dating Apps. And 90% of Dating App Users are men, so of course the imbalance makes things just awfull.

A lot of yung women don't want to date. 4B and Celibacy

Every time women complain about the negative thing they experience in relationships, men say "choose better". Now women finally choose better...

@@CordeliaWagner1999 you chose better and now society collapses and it's on both of you guys bruh 💀

​@@CordeliaWagner1999 what is 4B?

S Korea : we have a record breaking birth rate drop Italy : Quick! We need to catch up! S Korea : No! I won't let you follow me

This is happening almost everywhere. The old are getting nervous that we won’t support their pensions haha. It’s the same with Boomers in America.

We're not. We're simply having fewer kids. And what about it? There are almost 20 million people of Italian origins in America alone anyway, and we've experienced massive decreases of population in our history & yet We're still here.

@@carlomontecarlo7881 you're comiting self geno-de. Three generations , you'll be either a minority , probably opressed , either extinct. But I guess it's worth it, I'm sure you'll be super happy. My descendants will mourn you. I often tell my children that the world is a better place thanks to the italians, the japanese, the koreans , the east europeans, for the culture they create ,the beauty, the food, their beautiful language.

​@@carlomontecarlo7881cope ur replacement is here

@@carlomontecarlo7881 Italian Americans are far removed from Italy Majority of them do know the culture nor the language. At that point they aren’t any different from any other migrants

@mistermood4164 my Italian American cousins all speak Italian, so do my Australian and Argentinian cousins. I understand your point. But they can already vote 🗳 cause they're citizens. Maybe this will have to change in the future, but we could use this to attract more Italian people to Italy. After all, I met plenty of Argentinians & Brasilians of Italian origins who decided to relocate to Italy (they could, they have our passport)

Italy was already on this trend way back to the 80s

women empowerment ahem ahem

You're either delusional, uneducated or a liar.

Uhm nah. I'm Italian and our governments have the duty to make our lives livable. If people aren't having kids cause the economy is in tatters, something must be done about it.

@@carlomontecarlo7881 it's not the economy. I think it's much deeper than that. What pushes a people to delete itself? NOrmaly it takes wars, desease, starvation, but people keep that survival instinct. Italians don't.

@@backintimealwyn5736 it IS the economy. Are you Italian? What the hell are you even talking about?

@@carlomontecarlo7881 no it's not. Thi srefusal to have children is only coming from the wealthyest countries in the world. It's not. It's actualy comfort. As soon as a country enters the top GDP nations, fertility drops ex: China, Korea, Japan , regarding Spain and Italy it happened when they entered the european union and got massive economic growth, same for eastern countries, the drop happened with the collapse of the soviet union ans the westernization of their economies. TO explain it by economic reasons you should be able to show the existence fo many couples that refrain from having children because of money. But it's not the case, people have less S. people have stoped geting married , and people stay single.

no it wont because they are massively replacing them by millions of migrants.

☝️🤡

Who’s gonna pay into the pension if there aren’t enough young people? That means fewer young people will have to pay higher taxes to support the elderly. Who’ll be your plumber, mechanic, doctor, police officer, etc if there aren’t enough workers?

Or let African girls in and Hangout with Italian Boys. The fertility is a problem, because they use condoms, not the activity in general, try to let your girl alone in Italy for a while and you'll eventually get it 😂

Why not Indian man? 😂

@muhamadfaizal2006 yes us too bro 🤣

Btw this means as there is less young people. Italy would become weaker and weaker overtime. You would start seeing less Italian music, less Italian movies, less Italian products. The country would turn into an elderly house. Italy would not be a global power and would become a normal mid-sized country that no one cares about.

@@tunisian_stats These apocalyptic predictions are quite stupid. Italy experienced many ups and downs through its history and general was able "to recover", not because people were doing tons of children but because there were greats minds supported by an intellectual and dinamic environment. I would like to have a more cultured and pacific country. Generally to be a big power means that you have to have a completed indoctrinated population like China, Russia or USA, where they think that the power of the nation is something morally important, but actually is important only because people are stupid, wanted to dominate and are unable to share

@@tunisian_stats these apocalyptic predictions are quite stupid. Italy experienced many ups and downs through its history and general was able "to recover", not because people were doing tons of children but because there were greats minds supported by an intellectual and dinamic environment. I would like to have a more cultured and pacific country. Generally to be a big power means that you have to have a completed indoctrinated population like China, Russia or USA, where they think that the power of the nation is something morally important, but actually is important only because people are stupid, wanted to dominate and are unable to share

​@@tunisian_statsthese apocalyptic predictions are quite stupid. Italy experienced many ups and downs through its history and general was able "to recover", not because people were doing tons of children but because there were greats minds supported by an intellectual and dinamic environment. I would like to have a more cultured and pacific country. Generally to be a big power means that you have to have a completed indoctrinated population like China, Russia or USA, where they think that the power of the nation is something morally important, but actually is important only because people are stupid, wanted to dominate and are unable to share

​@@tunisian_statsthese apocalyptic predictions are quite stupid. Italy experienced many ups and downs through its history and general was able "to recover", not because people were doing tons of children but because there were greats minds supported by an intellectual and dinamic environment. I would like to have a more cultured and pacific country. Generally to be a big power means that you have to have a completed indoctrinated population like China, Russia or USA, where they think that the power of the nation is something morally important, but actually is important only because people are stupid, wanted to dominate and are unable to share

Exactly

I am italian , sorry to hear your story,

Please elaborate. Even if you have to say in Italian.

​@@serafinacosta7118 the plandemical orchestra showed the level of State and its sheeple

👏 exactly. Women in this paese, are homosexual. a huge portions, now label that as feminism, etc.

The fact that women don’t depend from man as it used to be doesn’t make birth rates lower. It’s the economy, women are literally obliged to work in order to survive but it’s not what feminism is about, in a current economic system women don’t have a choice. And speaking about divorces and marriage, marriage as an institution actually encourages monogamy that leads to lower birth rates. If a divorce happen the probability you will have a new baby increases if you can afford it.

@@greenlime8726 I completely disagree. Women not depending on men leads to one less incentive to associate with men. Pair bonding is no longer a necessity -- a fact that results in less opportunity for baby making. And indeed, women might be required to work due to our current economic conditions but you couldn't have used that lame excuse sixty years ago. Our current economy doesn't explain the lowering marriage rates and rising divorce rates in the 1960s. Also, research out of the University of Pennsylvania suggests married women are three percentage points more likely to have a child than their unmarried counterparts and are drastically less likely to have an abortion. Further other studies have clear correlations demonstrating that fertility rates fall when women’s education and incomes rise. A lack of income has never been seen to cause lowering fertility rates. It is often the most impoverished nations that have the highest birth rates. Rather, it seems that economic affluence is what drives down birth rates when people place material acquisition and personal life satisfaction above pair bonding, marriage, and producing children.

Funny thing is, that what happens but they go to the USA instead of Europe. Because think of this. Your a engineer, doctor and computer scientist in a third world nation and you can move. Moving to the EU isn’t bad since there’s a robust welfare system and it’s modern. But then what does that matter in relation to the USA. Healthcare cost a lot of money but that doesn’t matter when you can afford great insurance with your paycheck which is higher in the USA. For schooling you can just send them to costly public schools or private since in the USA you have money The EU is set up to work for lower/middle class people while America is for the higher class. The desirables would rather go to the USA because the draw backs don’t matter as much when you have money and you get to pay less taxes as a whole. Also our “culture” is easier to integrate. You guys scream and shout if you see Africans in Europe. Doesn’t matter if they are educated and have a job. You assume them to have welfare

The US is crumbling. They need a lot of money to live in safe areas.

That doesn’t solve anything is just kicking the can down the road like the eu has been doing for decades. When a country gets richer birth rates decline because kids become liabilities instead of assets is very analytical but is the truth.

Bring over ethnic Italians from South America; Brazil and Argentina have millions of people of Italian descent. Argentina is in a economic crisis, Italy should recruit unemployed people in Argentina, millions have Italian heritage.

and eventually you wont be able to call that country as ''italy'' anymore. like germanistan and swedistan today

Italians who migrated to other countries and continents will live .

@@john-fr5yd Mixed in other nation...but at the end of the century in Italy they will be a rarity✍🏻

@@massimodenaro9934 Who's to blame

@@john-fr5yd With these new young people we do not reproduce. In more incidents wars emigrations becomes depopulated

@@john-fr5yd This new generation doesn't reproduce. In about fifty years everyone will see it ✍🏻

I support feminism so that I can divorce my abusive husband, instead of poisoning him.

Italy is full of misogyny and Italian men are known mama boys so it's not surprising that women are opting out

Uhm what? People here aren't having kids cause of the economy. It's not possible to move out of your parents' home cause they charge you 600-800 euros / month for a ROOM in cities like Milan, Rome, Florence, Bologna (where the jobs are). How can you expect to have intimacy with your partners while living with mom and dad? And migrants face the same problems once they come to Italy - stats show their birth rates plummet, too, once they settle. Moreover, the idea of shipping people into the country instead of making life bearable for us is disgusting, people aren't goods you take from other parts of the world to get a quick fix on structural problems! & newcomers would need better living standards anyway. Maybe we could start with doing something so that young people stop leaving Italy because we're forced to if we want to build careers, yeah?

I never cared about building a family tbh

Yes, thank you. Too many people cry about feminism, when really they just resent the fact that women have more choices now. Some of us want a career. I am a workaholic and I love it! Children are not a fulfilling idea.

More germans than😂

So u want women to birth babies and go 50/50? Which most women I know in Florida are earning more than their men. All my friends/family women are higher earners than their men, yet still had babies. Which seems crazy to me. But why are u unable to find a lady? U think it had to do with your earnings? 😂 NO. "TO THINE OWN SELF BE TRUE" 2:31

My paternal and maternal great-grandparents were Italian and Portuguese who came to Brazil, I'm white, but neither Italy nor Portugal want me in their country. It's no use, they see us as animals because we were born on another continent, no matter their appearance or cultural similarity... They prefer immigrants from Africa and the Middle East... That's the truth! make it difficult for us to get a visa and make it easier for others. The process to obtain citizenship is expensive and time-consuming. If Italy gave me back the nationality of my great-grandparents I would learn Italian with pleasure, I would live there and have 10 Catholic children, but they prefer to give nationality to people from the Middle East and Africa...

@dolydoly5679 That is a lie.They turn back boat loads of Africans daily,even allowing or causing some of the boats to sink.; and if you were truthful about your whiteness you would have gone to the U S by now.

Controversial

What culture is that? Old buildings and pasta? Who cares.

@@magesalmanac6424exactly! Nobody cares. Italy has been a massive recession for iver two decades now and he they still think there culture mktr important then they actually are and still blame immmigrstion or migrants for all there problems when other countries with higher simikar immigraronnlke Germany, Canada, swizerkand, singapore, Austelia, New Zealend are economic powerhousees compared to Italy. They need to get over themselves and get realistic.

A lot of wrong prejudices about Selenky Country...

Meanwhile Germany has tenthousands of social and fraud cases committed by Selenky's people... Nah, send them to Afghanistan.

Immigration is never the answer for a shrinking Population. It just destroys a country. Just Look at Germany, France, Netherlands, Britain...

There are tenthousand of reporter cases of social and Frauen committed by U kr nians. Nobody wants them anymore expect for lefties who h t e their himecountries

You post the same bs 10 x times, we got your point.

Yes, it is. Hence the video about it. Fertility is below the replacement rate.

@@dashund365what is the replacement rate ?

​@@alib4859 when each couple have at least 2 kids on average, the new generation consists of as many people as the previous one, therefore you have a replacement rate of 1, which means that for every old person there is a young person growing up to fill the spot.

A shrinking Population is great. More Power for the individuals of lower classes.

@@alib4859 2.1 births per woman (on average) 2 is the true number but the 0.1 is added to account for birth and infant mortality.

Natural selection is currently favoring Africa. Their share of the word population would go from 18% to 39% in 2100

Don't think so unemployment in south Italy is very high and salary really low

@@ambessaseway5594 Certainly not that low for brazilian or argentinian standarts. Plus, soon the laborforce in the North won't be enough and there won't be southern italians to move north either, since birth rate is rather too low in the whole country.

@evaristoabrahao2216 I know italy young people are moving north to Switzerland/Germany because they have no future specifically southern italy

@@ambessaseway5594 Sure, I know that too, and that's because we're probably thinking of young, highly qualified people unsatisfied for european standarts. La Dolce Vita (the economic growth from 60's to the 90's) in Italy is over and italians are seeking its benefits somewhere else. You're probably not thinking about a maid, a bricklayer, a plumber, a janitor, a nurse, cause these sorts of jobs are usually not fit for modern italians. Any south american not too picky can get a job in Italy in less than a month (most of those who migrate can't afford being picky at all). You're also not thinking a lot of people on the globe would be glad simply to buy a car, dress properly and enjoy healthcare instead of drinking the fanciest expresso or spending vacations in Ibiza. We're easy to please and not soft at the same time. Just like the italians who moved here one hundred years ago. Look at the amazing rise of brazilians in Portugal. From 100.000 people 10 years ago to 400.000 now. The minimal wage there is under 800 euro, rent alone consumes 500-600 euro, and people keep going, cause they enjoy good education, security, and can save some money to send home. Japan has over 200.000 brazilians and peruvians working in factories, with labor conditions much worse than in Europe and they still won't come back to South America (those who could, already did it). Italy (even South Italy) is no less than Portugal or Japan when it comes to income and oportunities. Germany, Sweden, Switzerland or Australia being rich doesn't mean Italy, Portugal, Spain or Croatia are poor, the world is way bigger than that.

@evaristoabrahao2216 most of this Brazilian in Japan have Japanese ancestors and know Japanese culture well, personally I believe there will be a huge economic crisis in southern/Eastern Europe because the largest payer in EU fund is Germany/France their Economy is struggling as well Portugal/Italy benefits largely from EU fund. People go work everywhere there are 250000 portugese in Angola

We are glad

4B🏅💐🥳🎉🍾❤️‍🔥

Thats when the men wake up.

Mgtow

LOL good, men can go their own way because women don’t want to be stuck with those losers. Face it, women have options now and men need to step up or get left behind.

😂😂😂 No thanks, maybe they should open the borders for women, they could help them with the fertility, isn't it troll?

Do you like BBC, right? tell the truth

✡️ I smell

No, effects of a broken economy. My grandma was a feminist and she had 6 kids.

​@@carlomontecarlo7881 she was an exception in her times. Nowadays feminists just hate men

Men who complain about feminism just aren’t getting laid, and refuse to accept they are the real reason why.

@@carlomontecarlo7881 It is the fiat currency system. We need to go back on some sort of standard involving a fixed digital currency

@brent4073 I have no idea about it. What I know about contemporary Europe is that we've got high taxes that should fund social services, but these services aren't always so great. Salaries are stagnating, there isn't much technological innovation, countries emphasise exports over consumption for various reasons (which means having to keep salaries low), and large parts of the continent had to endure harsh austerity measures that had profound negative effects on birth rates. I'm Italian and I remember very well all the stuff that went down in 2012 - it was not pretty & our GDP still hasn't gone back to its 2007 levels. Italy recorded 576k births in 2008 vs 379k in 2023. In the 2000s births were going up, until the crisis struck. Coincidence?

Feminism isn’t the issue. What do you mean “trying to be like men”? Everybody wants success in life? To do something, to achieve big things. Everybody has dreams and hopes. It has nothing to do with you what one does with their life. It’s mostly the younger generation that don’t want to get married. It’s on both girls and guys. Young people just seem to care about status, wealth, fame, social media and followers.

The only solution is live like Amish people in rural areas they have 6 children per Women

@gravity8014 well what I mean by trying to be like men just means traditionally in the most cases women where responsible for keeping the family intact and men would work so that all the requirements of family would be fulfilled but now that women don't want to do that they used to and try to be as competitive as men are but the problem is the fundamental biological difference between men and women. the women can't marry at old age as men while doing the the jobs to provide for family and expect to have a healthy working family.

Oh my… your ideas about society and the family are outdated. Women as being nothing more than mothers and homemakers was the norm decades ago, but many of us want something more than that. Why so critical of women who want careers? Its not healthy or practical to be financially reliant on your spouse.

@magesalmanac6424 well I guess you don't have a problem with your bloodline getting extinct.

She's allowing migrants in. Sadly

No, population is growing. Every day.