Item duplication is still happening in OSRS

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I was originally going to go into more detail about the rumours adding to the rampant speculation, but I decided to stick to the key facts: worlds are being crashed, and duping is still possible using world crashes. I don't think we need more than that to determine that dupes are still taking place.
The extent of those dupes cannot be known unless Jagex, or an insider doing the duping, decides to make it known.
Footage (and info) from Rendi's duplication video: • The Hidden Runescape D...
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0:00 Intro
0:53 NordVPN
1:48 World crash dupe recap
2:53 The recent crashes
5:06 Sneaking onto a crashed world
7:05 Anyone can dupe during a crash
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@Gudi 2 года назад

Go to nordvpn.com/gudi to get a 2-year plan plus 4 additional months with a huge discount! To state it once more: I am not saying that these dupes are not being handled. I am addressing the many ppl who seem to believe that no dupes are happening whatsoever - as that is almost certainly not the case.

@chattychatotchannel 2 года назад

this video was really cool and I was having a fun time learning about old school with my girlfriend and how the economy can get messed up from this stuff and then I got really sad because you used the Alex Jones clip using the r slur. It's really saddening and isolating watching a video having fun only to see ableist stuff like that would you be so kind as to not do that? I wish you a nice day your videos are very cool also great job catching the world going down and the dedication refreshing so much it's great to have documentation of that stuff

@Jesujej 2 года назад

Gudi lives again

@richardjones8846 2 года назад

*re-subs with malicious intent* (doom music starts) but seriously... what's the point in caring about the economy when jagex never did? they actively have policies not put in place so botters can be subscribed for multiple months to make money off them. it's a very easy solution; no trading over a certain limit for the first 3-6 months of your accounts creation, and it's very easy to accurately gauge if someone is a bot or not based on the behavior of 3-6 months of data while it's not possible for them to make a profit botting for 3-6 months if they can't get the gold or items off the account.

@matthijs2981 2 года назад

One thing to bear in mind is that Jagex can't share much about bugs and the ways in which they might resolve it, because it would just point out further weaknesses. That being said, Jagex has a history of communicating very poorer with even the best-mannered, helpful members of the community reaching out, or in fact processing bug reports at all... So... Doomsday it is, I guess.

@jordanclarxon6246 2 года назад

@@chattychatotchannel go away

@War_Numen 2 года назад

Wake me when these naughty boys find a way to actually trim armour.

@p.wizzle8157 2 года назад

Lol! for real XD

@l3w154 2 года назад

your comment wins sir!

@psyjinx 2 года назад

Melvor Idle

@SirPugger 2 года назад

One of the biggest problems is the clients that assist people in logging into 1,000+ accounts at once have been sold to other people and spread further into the bug abuse community, so more and more people are able to crash worlds, and as you say, anyone can dupe in those worlds.

@hitppohiman 2 года назад

And fortunately those people who want to dupe were given very detailed instructions by Rendi in his original video, smh

@timdeud1615 2 года назад

You should not blame Rendi.. As he only brought this to the light. I would gave the same information to everyone in the world in the hopes that jagex actually changing it but apparantly they don't do anything about it.

@Turkingtang 2 года назад

@@hitppohiman or he could’ve stayed quiet.

@1ronman1 2 года назад

@@Turkingtang imagine thinking rendi was the only person to figure it out.

@MegaTanese 2 года назад

@@hitppohiman whats worse tho, bringing it to light to have a solution created, or leaving it in the shadows and having the true culprits trickle in and abuse it unnoticed

@sean8893 2 года назад

It’s been a wild night watching rendi’s 99att bug abuse, crumbs staking plug-in video, and now a gold dupe video. Jagex gonna wake up to a shit storm

@drew7044 2 года назад

Lmao had the exact lineup today great minds select alike

@THERAMMSTEINFAN490 2 года назад

Thank you for the comment. I only saw this vid until i read it.

@ValhallaLad 2 года назад

Literally exactly what I just finished watching in the last 10 hours lol

@T-Knight 2 года назад

Hell yeah brother

@iwev1852 2 года назад

Gudi was talking about jagex fixing it and having comprehensive logs so they can sort it out. Meanwhile an account got 15m attack xp in an hour orso and didn't get banned for months (still not banned?). Yeah, seems like the logs do jack.

@Blitsen 2 года назад

best money making guide ive seen in a while, thanks theoatrix :)

@xKingxTitus 2 года назад

Wwwwhats goin on guys, my names Theoatrix and today, I’m bringing you the infinite money guide!

@Sidoxenized 2 года назад

Lighten up mate

@DecimusTheThinker 2 года назад

Is theoatrix the guy that melted down on Twitter?

@ethanavrigean6734 2 года назад

@@DecimusTheThinker yup

@hughmungus1235 2 года назад

@@ethanavrigean6734 lighten up, mate

@lancemc1977 2 года назад

Hi this is jagex, we fixed this issue now so plz don’t try Sincerely, Stakeholders of jagex

@anormalguy8407 2 года назад

Dear payers, i mean players. We are fucked, we don't know how to fix this without spending a shit-ton of money. So we ain't gonna. Sincerely, Jagex people

@luked4800 2 года назад

Actually doubling gold.

@ruskibruski 2 года назад

Doubling money legit

@ivlark1 2 года назад

Better then the trimming armor

@deanmartin9508 2 года назад

Wanna know whats messed up i assume double money started as hey loan me a few mil and ill go stake it and return you gp but in the end they'd lose or get greedy and never return now doubling money means ima scam the pics out of you

@Fr0zenEagle 2 года назад

@@salt-emoji Except he literally admitted to that at the start of the video...? Jagex isn't talking about this, so there are no facts to go off on. Besides, the only thing he set out to prove was that a dupe could be possible, which he did, and confirmed nothing else. All of this was simply speculation because that's all we currently have on this.

@Nextia_ 2 года назад

@@salt-emoji Typical Brit behaviour he says, I’ve seen plenty of other nationalities do it including Americans the most lmao

@Liam-rc6vx 2 года назад

All this really just feels like Ronan tipping us off that we can dupe too

@Leroyteam 2 года назад

Then Jagex should fix this even sooner

@SairasSiika 2 года назад

Lets 👏 crash 👏 gold 👏 price 👏

@RuneSwagga 2 года назад

Please dupe gold so I can be osrich

@0ia 2 года назад

@@Leroyteam That's why I think this is a good thing

@THERAMMSTEINFAN490 2 года назад

Information is just that. Jagex should just get off their asses really 🤷‍♂️

@BARZOOSRS 2 года назад

Make a bot to monitor the worlds and dupe my own gold you say? 🤔

@Gudi 2 года назад

no no no no no no please please no oh god oh fuck

@RSpkerPro 2 года назад

@@Gudi Rekt

@soufyboufy6030 2 года назад

do it

@zaino60 2 года назад

fr why give them more ideas, the situation is bad already. There's a reason Jagex goes silent when it comes to dupes n' shit, at least until they situation has been resolved, which clearly isn't the case atm...

@anormalguy8407 2 года назад

@@Gudi Whats that? You want me to dupe gold so i can sell it and never have to more a day in my life?

@ColonelloRS 2 года назад

Spat out my drink at 4:37 LOL

@skunktank5751 2 года назад

Shit had me rolling

@THEDISABLEDFERRET 2 года назад

Amazing. 😂😂

@maxivy 2 года назад

You have the voice to pull off this kind of content.

@BradShreds 2 года назад

gayyyyyy!

@MinecraftWillZoBoB 2 года назад

@@BradShreds lol

@Sahbab11 2 года назад

@@BradShreds not gay, true. I could not take Framed’s voice seriously for a second if he did a topic like this. Guy sounds like he’s straight out of a dungeons and dragons bender 24/7

@FunniesRS 2 года назад

@@Sahbab11 i swear framed speaks out his fuckin nose lmfao

@clemfandango8380 2 года назад

I think uncle attack is a testament to the fact that gagex does NOT have detailed logs of the things that happen.

@setosorcerer 2 года назад

Imagine not just using Gamemode 1 smh

@KrakenKidMinecraft 2 года назад

imagine

@CabbageGod 2 года назад

@@JamaiiQ it's a minecraft joke. The command /gamemode 1 puts you into creative mode allowing you to easily spawn any item in the game (amongst other things) Seto is an og RS player but also quite well known for his minecraft days.

@JNCressey 2 года назад

you should have duped something worthless to prove it, like 13 cooked trouts.

@kingdavey90 2 года назад

exactly. It is very suspicious that he had a perfect opportunit to prove duping was real but chose not to do it.

@RumpelGameSkin 2 года назад

The best tactic to disguise something heavily abused is misinformation, or highlighting another issue to distract from the one the people are abusing. Anyone blanket denying that the dupes are happening is probably doing just this. Also wouldn't a very simple solution be to save accounts after trades? About as simple as adding a call to save after a trade is resolved. Similarly you could do it for dropping. The process of trading or dropping probably also won't be made too taxing by it, considering trading is already doing quite a lot of things by ways of sending messages between players, showing items, having menu transitions and checks for both people being ready to trade, actually moving items.

@MyNameIsSalo 2 года назад

Saving more frequently = more stress on the server If the average player is staying online for 4 hours for example, And now you change it so every trade saves the account then this could go to like every 30 minutes if you’re including the GE in that, as well as dropping items. 8 times the stress on the server. No world would stay alive, game would permantely crash. Sure the “fix” might be simple to program. The hard part is minimising the consequences of applying that fix, as every fix has potential for abuse and downsides. It’s definitely not going to be 8times the load on the server, much less than that, but even a difference of like 1.2 times could cause massive problems. The final solution to this is to make it so crashing worlds isn’t possible. That’s a lot harder to solve but it completely removes the problem without increasing server load.

@suidice5596 2 года назад

They could also just bandaid fix and limit f2p worlds to like 500-800 people

@1ronman1 2 года назад

Lol. The servers would never be able to handle it

@mattparkin7224 2 года назад

Every time someone says something would be easy to put into the game, I sigh

@Itsudemo1 2 года назад

except the current dev team has no knowledge to fix engine bugs from game created in 2001

@Eziuxxx13 2 года назад

Great content. Thanks, Gudi. Nothing else could be expected from Jagex. Always when some actions needs to be taken asap nothing is being done.

@MoonPact 2 года назад

/r/2007scape is unbearable

@stevepasquarella823 2 года назад

Jagex cannot announce that they have identified a dupe *until* it has been fixed. Otherwise, if Jagex announced they knew of a dupe, but still have not taken action, the entire game freaks out about the impending rollback-apocalypse. A random f2p world at 2 am doesn't just get 2,000 players to join unless Zezima logs in with his pchat public. Let alone multiple f2p worlds per hour. What it sounds like here is, Jagex has never actually fixed the world crashing dupe simply because they don't know to create a way to continuously save a player's account in real-time. I'm assuming the data required to do such a large amount of gamesaves would be phenomenally large. Requiring them to invest in massively expensive data storage solutions, which, I am assuming is not in their business plan. Did the ever stop these types of dupes? Didn't they try some ways to curtail it on rs3?

@simmerke1111 2 года назад

One way of dealing with it is to safely disconnect that world. Assuming it runs out of memory or something. Wouldn't be a great solution, since crashing worlds or even disconnecting them can still ruin the game. But it'd be far better than allowing dupes to go on and hoping you catch them before damage is done. That's only assuming the abusers are overloading the world in some way that could be monitored. But we know nothing for sure.

@strangedevice2547 2 года назад

have you seen world 308? Someone keeps dumping crafting supplies and other f2p items claiming its a giveaway. I know last week a streamer was doing it, but today some random guy was doing the same items.

@Gudi 2 года назад

I caught the giant dump which happened on a F2P world a couple of weeks back, but I hadn't seen what was going on in 308. I tried to avoid all but the most necessary details in this video - as the key source of controversy seemed to be the rumour mill churning out tales of ely/tbow drop parties etc. Hard to discern fact from fiction in those areas. Not possible to know the source of what is happening in those worlds. I am hella curious, though.

@THERAMMSTEINFAN490 2 года назад

VERY interesting video! Thank you for taking a step out of the ordinary path for this!

@ivlark1 2 года назад

Imagine knowing about this 15 years ago.. oh wait.

@Black-Dawg-Jesus 2 года назад

I think that a rumour of dupes can also be a way for merchers to increase their profits since a lot of people will most likely panic sell if they hear that "item XY" can be duped.

@NaughtyKlaus 2 года назад

So what’s the exact reason the server crashes? If it’s a memory allocation issue, they could set up a script to restart the server when the server passes a memory threshold. If it’s bandwidth, then they can restart the server when the server is nearly out of bandwidth.

@Rockett. 2 года назад

Why not just make characters save after confirming a trade?

@SherryDC 2 года назад

Because they would just avoid trading and move to something else

@OdinPlays94 2 года назад

@@SherryDC save account status after trade, duel, item drop, player death and storing gold in a coffer. Problem solved. Every single way to transfer items would effectively create a save of both accounts to prevent a duplication.

@Bronsteim 2 года назад

great video man! always like your content!

@RedeemedOSRS 2 года назад

Gudi do you remember when hax unit crashed the world at ge using clockwork cats around 2009-2010? It was only like 30 people or something with 200 cats each, inspired by a forum post and done for fun. It's likely they are using some quest item to crash the worlds and spamming it such as clockwork items. It has to be something that puts a lot of load on the server so that it can't recover.

@LimitTheInsane 2 года назад

Can't believe rendi is at it again!

@jeremyklein953 2 года назад

Loooool

@coreym5068 2 года назад

Very well done and narrated. You have good theory crafting at the very least. Brings good insight

@sammys362 2 года назад

Thanks for this. I’m getting in on this for sure.

@Jop3lius 2 года назад

This happens in rs3 during every system update but the window of doing it is couple seconds before you are booted out of the game. Just try it out by running forward during system update, mark where your character was when time hit zero and when logging in you will notice you are about 5-6tiles off of the place you got booted from.

@hisammy3969 2 года назад

“So I’ve taken some precautions” Skip Skip Skip Skip Skip

@jreverie7018 2 года назад

Such a frustrating thing. I made 4.5bill legit and it’s taken me ages. Seems worthless now. Imagine if 500 accounts traded each other 100mill each. That’s 50 bill in one attempt. Unreal

@arsevillian6816 2 года назад

wave2: Duplicate GF 2k e/a world 1

@icelord447 2 года назад

No need for dupes, if rendis new video bug worked also for one of the quests that give gp as reward they already could have generated unlimited money that way.

@Gudi 2 года назад

I haven't watched it yet. Loading it up rn. You're the third person to mention it to me, so it has to be good.

@TheVastoLordes 2 года назад

Pretty sure he said they've patched what he used in that video

@username-du2er 2 года назад

@@Gudi rendi's recent videos are all crazy good

@icelord447 2 года назад

@@TheVastoLordes Yeh they patched one way to do it, doesn't mean people can't find a new way to do it. The usual.

@icelord447 2 года назад

@@Gudi Yeh it's worth the watch, when you get to the steel claws part don't want spoil it, you will understand what I mean that they could have done the same thing but with GP rewards potentially.

@rundmv6534 2 года назад

i was today years old when i learned why duping always was mentioned along with world crashing lol. thanks Gudi cool vid

@carcrashjayson 2 года назад

Are you ever making that video about pking Yolo Mission that C Engineer said you would make? Or did I just miss it?

@nicholaslortie9847 2 года назад

Did anybody notice his name ? “COIN “ he’s apart of dicing bots ! ;)

@superflux1654 2 года назад

These crashes also mean that if you were to get a good drop or lets say a pet just before the crash, you would no longer have it when you log back in. So the savepoint system needs fixing anyways, as it's not impossible for worlds to crash on their own too.

@Shteven 2 года назад

I thought of this too, but most people leave or log as soon as it starts lagging. So that eliminates a lot of people, i'm sure it still happens or if you were doing tempoross or Wintertodt.

@bonewelder1471 2 года назад

It seems like this could easily be fixed by just saving a players account status after a trade. Then again, I'm no programmer so who knows how hard this would actually be to fix.

@NetherHawk 2 года назад

The game engine might not be able to support that without major reworks. Though I don't know either how it works, but it's possible that they designed it to save only with log outs and changing it now is essentially too late.

@atroxie 2 года назад

@@NetherHawk its probably a bandwidth thing servers constantly having to save ppls accounts all the time could and probably would cause server lag so its limited to logouts

@elsiekonpaku9530 2 года назад

People would find ways around it, they could drop trade or put items on tables or get pked etc.

@NetherHawk 2 года назад

@@atroxie Yeah true, it could really be any number of things. We can't know how or why they designed it like that.

@Rerbun 2 года назад

@@elsiekonpaku9530 it becomes a slippery slope very quickly but still: why not save state on those events as well then

@user-ex6ks1qc4x 2 года назад

thank you. ive duped countless tbows now.

@zachcole7966 2 года назад

ill venmo u 20 doll hairs for one

@JustHereForTheDialogue 2 года назад

LOL the music at the beginning really sold it XD.

@rhyuke 2 года назад

why hasnt this been posted to the sub reddit yet? It feels weird how little discussion there is still

@CluelessUri 2 года назад

could they go to a congested 3rd level post trade to force the crash?

@johnrogers9981 2 года назад

If Jagex has a method of logging players logouts and their items. It would simply be a string return. kind of like itemID:1234, itemID:12345, itemID123456. Which if the first statement is true, the inverse would be true. The same string could be generated on login. With a very simple line of code you could compare the item ID strings of player logout vs login and IF not a match notify person X and flag account X. I personally believe that Jagex has a margin of error, or a low variance rate, which they allow to occur on purpose.

@MeAtHome5 2 года назад

Surely the fix is just to save the profile after a trade, and other transactions, such as after a stake, if this means a 5 second delay to "finalize" a trade then that's totally worth it.

@RyuuRider 2 года назад

Honestly what should be done. Just taking a snapshot of the accounts after a trade and uploading it as a save-state for the account might be the only thing needed.

@Top3Unveiled 2 года назад

That fixes exactly nothing. They will just drop their items over or kill each other in the wildy.

@RyuuRider 2 года назад

@@Top3Unveiled Well, it fixes one method and forces them to do drop-trades or get into PVP areas where other players could screw them up. But yeah, doesn't fix the issue altogether.

@MeAtHome5 2 года назад

@@Top3Unveiled It makes it far more work for them, and more opportunity for things to go wrong. There are multiple small mitigations that could be implemented, which would make it far less practical. - Reducing the world capacity, so that the servers have better performance, building a performance buffer so that hopefully they don't crash. - Login queues. So that regular players aren't affected (most of the time) it could activate when it detects a sudden surge of players, or by monitoring the hardware of the server such as memory allocation, CPU usage, network usage. The queue could allow in 1 player per second or something. Long term the solution is most likely saving data at runtime, but this will likely require hardware upgrades which will take time, such as high performance SSD's or increased RAM to act as a write buffer, and tweaking the engine.

@blacknyellow962 2 года назад

Thing is how do they determine who specifically is involved in this. For example what if you and a buddy happen to be a on world where the 2k accounts decide to do it on while trading and inadvertently dupe whatever it was you traded is that ban worthy? The chances of being on world that happens to targeted by this group while trading is slim but it's still possible.

@ghunther0111 2 года назад

Gonna depend on the circumstances on a case by case basis id imagine, if you're trading like, bond money they probably wont ban but if you "randomly" trade your friend a Tbow or 1b+ on a crashing world, it would seem those players knew exactly what was about to happen. They'll probably set a value threshold and look at things like login / log out timings and other activity from the same IP.

@sugondiesthephilosopher 2 года назад

They collect two two terabytes of data everyday on every players action. Every trade, every click. The difficulty is sorting through the data.

@jordanclarxon6246 2 года назад

@@sugondiesthephilosopher how do you know

@sugondiesthephilosopher 2 года назад

@@jordanclarxon6246 a former big cheese Jagex mod gave an interview with content creators a few weeks back. Mod Mark or Matt K I think is their name.

@jordanclarxon6246 2 года назад

@@sugondiesthephilosopher thanks

@felxstorm 26 дней назад

Simple solution would be to somehow significantly increase the capacity of each world so it would take twice the number of players to crash the game but keep the player limit at 2000. Simple in theory, not sure how simple it is in practice. Also they can always lower the max players able to be logged on in the same world at once

@bullydungeon9631 2 года назад

i love how sir pugger has a monopoly on that one song

@purepunisher1 2 года назад

Your voice makes me so happy!

@Pomelu 2 года назад

They have bots upvoting comments that deny the dupes and they downvote the post itself

@sillyjobbernowl 2 года назад

Thanks Bowl man I'm gonna join in on the next one.

@RipBankk 2 года назад

You wanna tell us why mod lenny is "worse" or you gonna ignore like jagex. Go to 5:05

@tvwizard369 2 года назад

Ironmen over here not giving af about the economy lmao. Ironman is the only way to play RuneScape anymore

@dylanmica1 2 года назад

@@devilselbow kinda devalues your entire account and all your achievements but ok

@sweetwater2128 2 года назад

@@devilselbow ironmen that brag about being ironmen are the saddest virgin losers on the entire game. Who cares of we don’t waste our time fletching and crafting?

@trackandxc450 2 года назад

Is this because the worlds cant handle 2000 people doing stuff in one spot? Would it be the same if the world cap is 1500 instead? Could jagex keep the theoretical cap at 2000 but actually cap it in game to 1500 and start a queueing process to log in if you are #1501-2000+ to ease the strain on the world?

@kirk5649 2 года назад

It involves alot of people all doing very complex movements and emotes simultaneously in order to put too much strain on the server causing it to crash. Maybe as you stated having less people per world may fix that issue, but I feel like it may just take then longer to crash the world and not fix the problem. Idk though i dont know exactly how it works but you may be onto something

@NightInBh 2 года назад

Easy fix, set lower player limits so the servers don't get overwhelmed if they refuse to get more powerful processing

@emiliovasquez594 2 года назад

Woah, I just have one question… if you’re getting setback to your last save… and let’s say you trade an ely, you’ll get that ely back, right? But wouldn’t it mean that the person you traded the ely to would get his last saved spot too therefore the ely wouldn’t be in his inv anymore? Or would the person who got traded the ely, keep the ely because his last saved spot was when he got traded the ely? And how is your last saved spot determined? And would you be able to manipulate it by logging out?

@GizzyPope 2 года назад

the person getting the ely literally just has to log out and he gets saved. one of the first things explained in the video

@emiliovasquez594 2 года назад

@@GizzyPope Yeah but he didn’t confirm it. How are you so sure that when the player logs out it won’t reset him back to before he had the ely? Because it would be a whole world reset so whoever was on that world within the last 10-20 seconds gets reset to where they last stood within 10-20 seconds

@garrettking1488 2 года назад

I dont know anything about coding but cant Jagex fix this duping issue by making it so when you make a trade it saves your account?

@xFuaZe 2 года назад

Any exchange of items/money, so also dropping gp will need to be saved then

@JTimba 2 года назад

what is the soundtrack in the background??????

@MountaindewM 2 года назад

Why not do a forced character save when a save is completed when it's value is over a certain amount of value?

@xFuaZe 2 года назад

Interesting idea. But it would also have to work for droptrading then.

@quackatoa6105 2 года назад

you can also unban any account through a specific automated process (though you can be manually caught, it's never happened to me), it's not an in-game thing but possible on quite a lot of games due to their customer support processes & greed.

@quackatoa6105 2 года назад

oh and regarding the dupe process being complicated/difficult to pull off - many tools necessary for this were made public after Jagex went after Rendi. hence the boom.

@gottaproxy8826 2 года назад

when i see stuff like this i honestly wonder if it's corporate espionage. Stuff like this could permantly break the game and kill the playerbase

@fraai 2 года назад

the bots could be in multi in wildy and if the crashes happen that frequently then that indicates the gold is not getting removed otherwise the crashers would stop doing it

@samoaspider 2 года назад

that was public white portal, they coulda done a private one

@lonerider5315 2 года назад

if you ever make a less than 10min vid again ill do something wild on osrs. MORE GUDIIIIII

@HippoTheBaws 2 года назад

Jager watching: *eyes squint* Rendi!

@Jolfgard 2 года назад

yesterday some dude on YT claimed that item duplication happened, citing a trustful anonymous source. I didn't believe him, because I was told in other videos from other sources that the issue was fixed for quite some time on both OSRS and RS3.

@TheFriskySquid 2 года назад

indeed. it was "fixed" a while ago. But Jagex themselves said it was not impossible to crash a world or dupe, and that they only fixed that particular dupe. Oh and they fortified the servers to better handle it, obviously not well enough.

@savagecommentator8593 2 года назад

Thanks to this I finally got my T-bow :)

@urban94 2 года назад

This video needed to be made by someone like you

@Fridge_Fiend 2 года назад

Why wouldnt you dupe something like 1 raw shrimp just to see if its truly possible

@brohoe520 2 года назад

Where can I purchase this cheap gp?

@jesusmejia1334 2 года назад

That Alex Jones edit is so fucking golden. OMFG 💀 🤣

@RiseSoup 2 года назад

Everybody gangsta until Spooky comes on the video

@Slothptimal 2 года назад

Could the game not just save your profile after you perform a trade?

@p3rexrang3x 2 года назад

I feel like this should get pinned. I have no idea, (I'm not a coder) but I feel like this could be a super simple solution...

@Slothptimal 2 года назад

@@sleysin2501 Drop trading becomes riskier. It also forces people to learn that a fix is in place. I think when Jagex addresses this, they should not tell the community.

@johnb9242 2 года назад

You're very brave, going on the 07 Reddit... even with a VPN

@gaynano42 2 года назад

My friends brother works for jagex back end and he says they dont care if people dupe because the price of gold would be worth nothing if they keep doing it, which means pvmers and stakers would have no purpose in osrs people would just stick to HCIM which is what jagex wants.

@TheMegatuz 2 года назад

If this is true, no wonder why Ironman modes are been developed further and accounted on every update.

@gaynano42 2 года назад

@@TheMegatuz you are correct every update are just minor fixes and hcim developments for the future, any other questions will be ignored or tossed out.

@igotshotman 2 года назад

legit as he said "people could leach and dupe" i was already making more accounts on a vpn. lets fuckin gooooo bois. LOL

@HannibalBarcaRTW 2 года назад

Gudi just taught us how to item dupe, now im refreshing worlds every few minutes with an inv full of tbows :D

@dutton2666 2 года назад

Loan me just one of these beast so I can waste my life at inferno

@Heeeheeheehaww 2 года назад

its been happening with the general store dumps at the varrock general store on f2p worlds

@Anaxzorax 2 года назад

Thanks for the video, i've succesfully duped large amounts since the release of this video. Large amounts of nothing because i dont play this game.

@jaffacow 2 года назад

Realistally if Jagex were able to track the dupers with logs and stop the gold before they do anything with it, then these world crashes wouldn't be so common.

@Oakdice 2 года назад

At this rate dupers are gonna fuck the game harder then bots already are 😂

@chancerobinson80 2 года назад

Could I not also take advantage of this by having 2 accounts just trade money on worlds I expect are about to get crashed?

@chancerobinson80 2 года назад

turns out... yes lol

@danrobinson3714 2 года назад

@Gudi - I have an idea if you have connections with Jagex. Could they have a timer that checks the ping of a f2p world, when it hits a certain amount it saves all player data and then restarts the world? Hopefully this helps:) - good vid mate

@user-ew1jb7ox5q 2 года назад

They fix shit when it’s to late more times then not

@bdup4173 2 года назад

This was happening over a year ago last time i played

@DianaMcFarland 2 года назад

for sure if i had GP rn id be taking advantage of these dupes

@lolsamftw 2 года назад

Yo help me look for the duped worlds and I'll pay you good

@moltenaura5418 2 года назад

The dupe brought gold prices from .55 to .19, overnight. While that was mostly due to panic and people not knowing how severe the impact was, the prices still haven't recovered to what they were prior to the dupe. Should these large, public dupes continue to happen, where people know something happened and then gold vendors proceed to confirm it, it's going to be an issue. If gold prices continue to crash, and the bots/gold farmers/bm services all pack up shop to go find profits elsewhere, the game dies.

@lancewright521 2 года назад

I can't tell if gold prices being cut down so hard is good or bad...

@-Letitkillyou- 2 года назад

Now take a look into the world economies and the havoc being rekted by the central bankers...

@deebly_goncerned 2 года назад

That Alex Jones edit made me laugh my ass off for a solid minute

@MNtoCali 2 года назад

We dun do this as much anymore, use 2 b tbow now god sword and mid tier items

@JustJanitor 2 года назад

Awesome video man tyvm.

@Aidez 2 года назад

wait doesn't the explanation at the start assume the devs haven't figured out the obvious solution of saving both players's data after a trade?

@__________________________4597 2 года назад

true dat

@highalchemy 2 года назад

00:07 look at those chesticles bounce in the bottom right

@jakelee2681 2 года назад

Lower world limits would fix this AND hopefully bring back the social part of the game by forcing players to not always hop to empty worlds

@rafaelcimardi 2 года назад

that would be shitty imagine pvming and slayer with less w

@Wildm0use 2 года назад

When mobile was released an absurd amount of F2P worlds were added to the game. I think it's time for them to go.

@breedam 2 года назад

The world was lagging like crazy… WHAT DO YOU MEANXD my worlds are always like this….

@Joao2k12 2 года назад

What if all the lag and worlds being full / crashed is actually jagex testing it to see if any chances they implement work and stop the possible duping ?

@KillingDemons 2 года назад

At 2 oclock in the morning on a Saturday? lol no

@papapsych2746 2 года назад

@@KillingDemons To be fair thats like 8 am where jagex is, but they don't pay any of their employees overtime.

@Elias-ns2lg 2 года назад

Here is a fix: When a trade is completed, label it with the time it occurred and the players involved. When a world crashes, ensure that all players on that world log in next go through an extra check of their most recent trades, deleting any items that they traded to another player but are still on the save file that is being referenced due to the server crashing.

@Top3Unveiled 2 года назад

It's a cat and mouse game where the bug abuser almost always win. They will just drop over their stuff or kill each other in wildy to bypass this. Goodluck implementing this "fix" without breaking the game.

@jaymcgary6164 2 года назад

Pretty easy fix in my opinion. Add a log-in queue, say, if more than 50 people are trying to log in at once, person 51 gets put at 1 in queue. Just an example. Could be fine-tuned further.

@Ben-ow7ws 2 года назад

In my opinion this would not help, as it is not how long it takes the accounts to log in, it is hundreds of accounts doing an action in the game in an enclosed space creating too many packets in one area to be sent back, ultimately crashing the game. I believe it works very similarly to a minecraft lag machine

@afrizzyy 2 года назад

The Alex Jones clip lmaooooo love this!

@Uglier. 2 года назад

sorry that was me, I accidentally turned the worlds off for a sec

@Some_Awe 2 года назад

i feel like a simple solution would just be to save a profile every succesful trade, they would have to move on to drop trading which is much more difficult