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Ivan Kozhedub - Allied Ace of Aces and His First Victories 

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Ivan Mykytovich Kozhedub was a Soviet Ukrainian fighter pilot who achieved the highest number of aerial victories among all Allied pilots in WWII. And yet, he doesn't seem to be given enough attention, at least not in the West. In this video, we will learn a little about his background and see how his fighter pilot career got off to a shaky start.
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- Кожедуб И.Н. - Верность Отчизне
- George Mellinger - LaGG & Lavochkin Aces of World War 2
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@Clive697
@Clive697 9 месяцев назад
Like several future aces Kozhedub had a shaky start in combat. Lucky to make it down alive after being hit early on and not scoring a kill until Kursk months later. Also making risky head-to-head attacks on ME109s and emerging victorious more than once. To survive as a Red Air Force frontline fighter pilot from 1942 until the war's end was quite an achievement - as was his 62 kills.
@showtime112
@showtime112 9 месяцев назад
Exactly! I find it particularly interesting when a really successful pilot struggles initially.
@edw9124
@edw9124 9 месяцев назад
Great vid! Always been a fan of the pilot and the LA series of fighters
@vadimpm1290
@vadimpm1290 11 дней назад
We must not forget that Alexander Pokryshkin is said to have downplayed the number of his kills at the expense of his wingmen, so his final score may be higher than that of Kozhedub.
@Clive697
@Clive697 11 дней назад
@@vadimpm1290 That's right, many pilots also had shared kills after being unsure which of them was responsible for downing the enemy plane. Kozhedub shot down Mustangs in self-defence near the end of the war which weren't added to his tally for political reasons.
@baselhammond3317
@baselhammond3317 9 месяцев назад
An interesting thing I read in one of his interviews was that he would often sit in his former La-7 white 27 (preserved in a museum) decades after the war - just to get that boyhood thrill and exhilaration of flying again.
@showtime112
@showtime112 9 месяцев назад
Thank you for contributing! That's understandable, to those veterans the was was the most intensive experience they would ever have.
@ghostb9339
@ghostb9339 9 месяцев назад
Great video about person who was born to fly! I am proud we share common motherland.
@showtime112
@showtime112 9 месяцев назад
Thank you for this comment!
@yeetboi911
@yeetboi911 9 месяцев назад
Yet another masterpiece of a story brought to us by showtime. Well done, i really liked this one
@showtime112
@showtime112 9 месяцев назад
Thanks, I'm glad to hear it!
@m.m.w.8773
@m.m.w.8773 9 месяцев назад
as a german..... i really neverver heard of him, which is quite sad. Thx for telling this story, and R.I.P. sir
@showtime112
@showtime112 9 месяцев назад
Thanks for commenting! This aspect of WWII history deserves more attention for sure.
@i.setyawan
@i.setyawan 9 месяцев назад
I've heard of Kozhedub's name, but I never knew any details of him, particularly his early career. Thanks for yet another excellent episode. It's also very nice to see Il-2 game footage again. Used to play it almost 20 years ago, but sadly not anymore.
@showtime112
@showtime112 9 месяцев назад
Thank you for commenting and enjoying the video. I actually used War Thunder for it as I've acquired more proficiency with its mission editor.
@i.setyawan
@i.setyawan 9 месяцев назад
@@showtime112 Oh, I see... My mistake
@showtime112
@showtime112 9 месяцев назад
@@i.setyawan No problem. It's easy to confuse the two if you are not currently playing them as these games evolve constantly.
@schwarzz6784
@schwarzz6784 9 месяцев назад
Main Il-2:1946 juga mas?
@i.setyawan
@i.setyawan 9 месяцев назад
@@schwarzz6784 Main yg Il-2 keluaran awal. Udah lama enggak lagi, sih. Terakhir main udah lebih dari 15 tahun lalu. Hehe
@ariannescharfi9366
@ariannescharfi9366 9 месяцев назад
A video of Alexander Pokryshkin would be awesome since that guy was a beast!!
@showtime112
@showtime112 9 месяцев назад
I agree! Plus, he flew P-39s which makes his career even more interesting in my opinion.
@ernstwiltmann6
@ernstwiltmann6 6 месяцев назад
@@showtime112 Than there where Achmed Khan, a Crimean Tatarian Ace flying for the Soviets (26) , that Shhut (54), Glinka (21), and some more I can not recollect right now by names.
@user-wc6gu7zp8o
@user-wc6gu7zp8o 9 месяцев назад
Thank you again for one more excellent video. These men and women who fought against the evil must not be forgotten. Again, excellent video.
@showtime112
@showtime112 9 месяцев назад
Thank you for such a positive feedback!
@robgraham5697
@robgraham5697 9 месяцев назад
Thanks once again for an interesting video about a little known facet of aviation history. Much enjoyed.
@showtime112
@showtime112 9 месяцев назад
Thank you for appreciating the video!
@gerometorribio2127
@gerometorribio2127 9 месяцев назад
Excellent content and production applied to an overlooked subject. The black and white newsreel effect at the start, along with the patriotic accordion music, are masterful.
@showtime112
@showtime112 9 месяцев назад
Thanks a lot! I had fun experimenting with some techniques I haven't used before to get the 'old' effect. It can be done better (and I probably will when I get more time). The music is the march of Soviet Anti-Aircraft Defense. Not 100% appropriate but close enough :)
@ernstwiltmann6
@ernstwiltmann6 6 месяцев назад
@@showtime112 The Lyubimy Gorod (by Mark Bernas) is a haunting Soviet Song, which would go well with another Video about a Soviet Fighter Ace. Also Smugljanka Moldavanka = The Moldavian Dark Haired Girl. As seen in the Movie "Only Old Men go to War"!
@showtime112
@showtime112 6 месяцев назад
@@ernstwiltmann6 Thank you for your suggestions. I'll check out if these songs are copyrighted.
@dante666jt
@dante666jt 9 месяцев назад
10:20 this is a head on dogfight... where only the bravest will survive..
@showtime112
@showtime112 9 месяцев назад
As any WT player knows, it's a gamble.
@dante666jt
@dante666jt 9 месяцев назад
@@showtime112 absolutely! I respect the pilots here as no one chickened out in the end!
@PappaBear_yt
@PappaBear_yt 9 месяцев назад
Great video and I really like the intro! Not the fan of ads, but congratulations on sponsorship! 👍🏻👏🏻💪🏻🍻🍻🙋🏼‍♂️
@showtime112
@showtime112 9 месяцев назад
Thanks Pappa, I was happy with the intro too. Everyone hates the ads but sadly, we need them to survive in this cut-throat business :)
@branka4226
@branka4226 9 месяцев назад
Nice video 👍
@showtime112
@showtime112 9 месяцев назад
Thanks!
@il-2forsale57
@il-2forsale57 9 месяцев назад
Great job! Now we need video about Pokryshkin
@showtime112
@showtime112 9 месяцев назад
Thanks! There will be something like that, hard to say when exactly because my inspirations are hard to predict 😁
@il-2forsale57
@il-2forsale57 9 месяцев назад
Good night!@@showtime112
@dominiqueroudier9401
@dominiqueroudier9401 9 месяцев назад
2nd.....was at work😢
@showtime112
@showtime112 9 месяцев назад
Still a podium finish :)
@dominiqueroudier9401
@dominiqueroudier9401 9 месяцев назад
@@showtime112 watch later now in LIDL shopping 😛
@soumadip_skyy_banerjee
@soumadip_skyy_banerjee 9 месяцев назад
❤ Another awesome video! Loved it
@showtime112
@showtime112 9 месяцев назад
I'm happy to hear it!
@yveaux500
@yveaux500 9 месяцев назад
Great storytelling. And good to see that ST112 is finally getting found by sponsors. Hope this will enable to channel to stay "in the air" (pun intened)
@showtime112
@showtime112 9 месяцев назад
Thank you! Sponsors are not too frequent but they help me keep my head above water :)
@jeannezehner9450
@jeannezehner9450 9 месяцев назад
Excellent idea for speaking about a russian ace during world war II. They have been forgotten by Western military story which have forgotten Pat Paddle, the Commonwealth ace, or the first western allied pilot with 51 aerial victories. In the Eastern front, there were a lot of planes, and the battles were huge, gigantic, so you were more able to score more easily. There's Alexandre Pokrychkine, an other ace russian pilot who has 65 victories but not all was confirmed and some was gained by cooperation. So officially Kozhedub is the ace of the aces of the allied camp.
@didierdenice7456
@didierdenice7456 9 месяцев назад
One thing very rarely explained is that one should be careful to compare apples and pears ! 🤔 Russia, like France, Italy, Romania ... kept the same scoring system from the First World War where one shared victory was counted as a full victory ! Kozhedub score, though undoubtedly great... includes full as well as shared victories all mixed in one bag with no distinction.
@gbcb8853
@gbcb8853 9 месяцев назад
To be accurate, he wasn’t Russian he was Ukrainian, and he flew with the air force of the Soviet Union. Two years ago I wouldn’t have known the difference myself, but history happened.
@jeannezehner9450
@jeannezehner9450 9 месяцев назад
@@didierdenice7456 The victories is very complicated to determine with precision, each country had his own system, that's true. For an european pilot in second world war, which is not german, the highest top score is due to a finnish guy with 92 victories. But Finland had fought against USSR and after on 1941 was allied with the German Reich until 44.
@jeannezehner9450
@jeannezehner9450 9 месяцев назад
@@gbcb8853 Yes, it's true, he wasn't born in Russia, it was an ukrainian. But he was a soviet citizen, it's more simple like this, because it was USSR period. USSR was an Empire and inside an Empire there's no borders only administrative boundaries. So, the nationality was not very important at this time, its decorations are soviet. But it stay an allied pilot, it's the essential. Pokrychkine was borned in Russia, at Novossibirsk it's the reason why I have wrote this I was thinking about him.
@dominiqueroudier9401
@dominiqueroudier9401 9 месяцев назад
Tous les 2 ont volé sur La 5 et 7. Pokryshin à tâté d'abord du P39 Airacobra. Avion mal aimé du côté ouest. Le La7 était plus puissant, 1800hp et 3x 20mm ou 23mm canons. Faut pas oublier le finlandais Elmo Jutilaainen
@emanuildimitroff
@emanuildimitroff 9 месяцев назад
The ambient of the video is superb!
@showtime112
@showtime112 9 месяцев назад
I'm glad you think so. Getting the ambient right is half the job.
@bjornsmith9431
@bjornsmith9431 9 месяцев назад
USSR aces are the rarely mention in the Western historian.
@showtime112
@showtime112 9 месяцев назад
True. This video isn't going to change much but it's a small step.
@randallturner9094
@randallturner9094 9 месяцев назад
The Russian Air Force in ww2 was unbelievably inept from beginning to end. Every new bit of research turns up more falsifications and cover ups. Until Russia actually declassifies ww2 records we won’t have a clear picture of what happened.
@wongarnold2879
@wongarnold2879 6 месяцев назад
Ivan deserves more praises, he’s the best pilot of the allies in ww2.
@kevinmccorkle7476
@kevinmccorkle7476 9 месяцев назад
Love the historical videos. All of these pilots and crews bear remembering.
@showtime112
@showtime112 9 месяцев назад
Thank you very much! I certainly agree with that.
@juancarlosperezcortes9259
@juancarlosperezcortes9259 9 месяцев назад
An interesting story. Thanks for share it
@showtime112
@showtime112 9 месяцев назад
Thank you for appreciating it!
@offshorequest
@offshorequest 9 месяцев назад
I was not familiar with him. Thanks !
@showtime112
@showtime112 9 месяцев назад
Thank you for commenting! This aspect of WWII is not known well enough outside the former USSR.
@1joshjosh1
@1joshjosh1 9 месяцев назад
I'm continuing to watch Showtime 112
@showtime112
@showtime112 9 месяцев назад
I'm happy to hear it :)
@BruceK10032
@BruceK10032 9 месяцев назад
Wonderful! Lots of stuff I didn't know.
@showtime112
@showtime112 9 месяцев назад
Then the purpose of this video is fulfilled. Thanks for the feedback!
@ISSH-nu7rn
@ISSH-nu7rn 9 месяцев назад
Excellent job 👏
@showtime112
@showtime112 9 месяцев назад
I appreciate your comment!
@Kay-51995
@Kay-51995 9 месяцев назад
Not someone I know much about, always interesting to see.
@showtime112
@showtime112 9 месяцев назад
Most of my viewers don't seem to find it very interesting but what the heck, I had fun doing the video 😁
@mikemosier3497
@mikemosier3497 6 месяцев назад
I certainly do! Keep doing what you do.
@sohrabroozbahani4700
@sohrabroozbahani4700 9 месяцев назад
He earned his stripes through the rise of soviet union as a super power, and he died with it as well... such a poetic fate... as the Romans had a saying... there is no greater glory for a man, than to die defending the ashes of his forefathers, and the temples of his gods.
@showtime112
@showtime112 9 месяцев назад
And he was born roughly at the same time USSR was created. That generation had a very very tough time, not just because of the war.
@TK57477
@TK57477 9 месяцев назад
@@showtime112 in Russia we consider this generation a blessed one of sorts. Tough, but meaningful and glorious life.
@ratagris21
@ratagris21 9 месяцев назад
Excellent work by Showtime 112! We can always expect the unexpected in these presentation. Aviational history kept alive as a blast from the past. ♠️🎩🎯🎱🇺🇸🏁🇮🇱🇺🇦🔱🌻🏵️💮🌸🌼🏴‍☠️🏹
@showtime112
@showtime112 9 месяцев назад
Thanks again! I enjoyed this topic. I know it might not be the most popular thing among my viewers but that might change :)
@didierdenice7456
@didierdenice7456 9 месяцев назад
One thing very rarely explained is that one should be careful to compare apples and pears ! 🤔 Russia, like France, Italy, Romania ... kept the same scoring system from the First World War where one shared victory was counted as a full victory ! Kozhedub score, though undoubtedly great... includes full as well as shared victories all mixed in one bag with no distinction.
@TK57477
@TK57477 9 месяцев назад
No, you are wrong. In Soviet system personal and shared scores were apart from each other, which was marked in pilot's logbook and other documents. For example, Kozhedub shot down 62 aircraft in person (+ 2 USAF P-51, which were not officially counted due to politics) and 45 aircraft in an element
@TK57477
@TK57477 9 месяцев назад
Also, victory count was very strict in the VVS. To score a downed aircaft for himself pilot need to have a confirmation from two sources: another pilots in the area AND ground observation posts or from ground troops. Actually, if there is no wreckage in the vicinity you probably will not get the score. A lot of damaged German aircraft that fell not on the frontline (70-100% of damage according to Luftwaffe system) were never scored because of VVS rules, but nobody cares ^^
@eduardodeandres3864
@eduardodeandres3864 9 месяцев назад
Hola. Muchas gracias. Extraordinario video. Muy bueno. Gracias
@showtime112
@showtime112 9 месяцев назад
Thank you, I am glad you liked it!
@oveidasinclair982
@oveidasinclair982 9 месяцев назад
Alright I just got off of double secret probation and can post on RU-vid once again. This Bolshevik pilot was actually lucky to have survived the war flying La5 and the previous Lag3, although by late in the war the Soviets had far more aircraft in the air then the Jerry's
@timonsolus
@timonsolus 9 месяцев назад
He never flew the LaGG-3.
@showtime112
@showtime112 9 месяцев назад
You've been naughty? 😁 It is correct that Soviet pilots had huge casualty rates. But once they gained enough experience, they could achieve remarkable careers.
@oveidasinclair982
@oveidasinclair982 9 месяцев назад
You bet ya😇@@showtime112
@SilentGeorge
@SilentGeorge 9 месяцев назад
So when Germans had far more and far better aircraft over soviet skies to get triple digits of kills it was ok? La-5 wasn't inferior to any german plane.
@timonsolus
@timonsolus 9 месяцев назад
@@SilentGeorge : In 1941-42, the German Bf 109F had a sizeable performance advantage over most of the Soviet fighters (except the speedy MiG-3). Although the Germans were still using a lot of Bf 109E’s at that time, which were slower than the F. However, the Germans were massively outnumbered by the hordes of Soviet fighters in 1941, and were still outnumbered in 1942 after the enormous losses of older Soviet fighters in 1941.
@coldwaterhunter8176
@coldwaterhunter8176 9 месяцев назад
Hey Showtime, I just got word the Panther hit DCS. You know what time it is. :)
@showtime112
@showtime112 9 месяцев назад
It's Korea time :) But it looks like Essex class carrier is coming out too later. I'm thinking whether to wait for it for the full experience.
@dharmendrasharma1458
@dharmendrasharma1458 9 месяцев назад
Amazing content as usaul, happy u got that sponsor 🎉 id like to recomand an interesting incounter when p2v neptune downed a russian mig15 during the korean war
@showtime112
@showtime112 9 месяцев назад
Thank you for the positive feedback! The incident you recommend is interesting and it could make a good video. The problem is that we don't have the Neptune in DCS or WT Perhaps it will show up someday.
@leighjones5551
@leighjones5551 9 месяцев назад
Nice work very interesting
@showtime112
@showtime112 9 месяцев назад
Thanks for the comment!
@branka1980
@branka1980 9 месяцев назад
👍
@showtime112
@showtime112 9 месяцев назад
Hvala!
@1joshjosh1
@1joshjosh1 9 месяцев назад
Another wonderful song for the soundtrack. And he didn't pick one of the top 10 so to speak songs. Nice.
@showtime112
@showtime112 9 месяцев назад
It's the march of the Soviet Anti-Aircraft Defense. That one was in my waiting list for a long time.
@dominiqueroudier9401
@dominiqueroudier9401 9 месяцев назад
Thank you for a not well know russian top ace. His friend was Alexandre Pokryshin, 59 kills. Best plane was La7 with powerful engine and 3x20mm Guns or 23mm
@showtime112
@showtime112 9 месяцев назад
Thank you for watching! Speaking of Pokryshkin, I definitely need to cover P-39 in the Eastern Front. Nothing like a good 'it sucked in one front but it excelled in another' kind of a story.
@dominiqueroudier9401
@dominiqueroudier9401 9 месяцев назад
@@showtime112 and dont forget finnish ace elmo jutilaainen
@johnforsyth7987
@johnforsyth7987 9 месяцев назад
I agree 100%! Mr. Pokryshkin's story would be a great one for your channel. @@showtime112
@janlindtner305
@janlindtner305 9 месяцев назад
👍👍👍
@showtime112
@showtime112 9 месяцев назад
Thanks for the comment!
@TyroneSayWTF
@TyroneSayWTF 9 месяцев назад
I assume this video was made with the War Thunder combat sim - or is it some other combat sim?
@showtime112
@showtime112 9 месяцев назад
It's War Thunder.
@edtim1984
@edtim1984 9 месяцев назад
Did you have an idea to visualize the events of May 13, 2023 over the Bryansk region of Russia? Let me remind you that 2 planes and 2 helicopters (Ukraine claims 3 helicopters) were shot down almost in one moment. At that time, many versions were put forward, but even to me, a person far from aviation, it was obvious that it was a long-range SAM. The USA just handed over the Patriot air defense system to Ukraine, and it became clear what exactly they did. Moreover, a few weeks later they published a video where 2 airplanes and 3 helicopters with the date May 13 were painted on the Patriot. You can Google it, you saw the video, or a scan from the video of this moment. One Ukrainian aviation expert explained almost immediately after that what could have happened. The Russians once again flew to bomb the border regions of northern Ukraine. The Russians had the following tactics: Su-34 armed with Glide bomb, Su-35 covering it from Ukrainian fighters, two Mi-8MTPR-1 with the Rychag-AV electronic warfare system and one Mi-8 to evacuate possible downed pilots. From a high altitude, before reaching the border with Ukraine, the Su-34 launches a Glide bomb. A few days before that, the Patriot air defense system had shot down Russian Kinzhal hypersonic missiles over Kyiv. The Ukrainians probably secretly moved the Patriot air defense system to the border with Russia (somewhere in the Chernihiv region) and intercepted Russian planes and helicopters that regularly bombed Ukraine before that. The only thing that is unclear is the third helicopter. There are videos of 2 planes and 2 helicopters falling. There is even a video of the moment when a large missile hits a helicopter (why I immediately understood that it was a long-range anti-aircraft missile). And, of course, all the crash sites are clearly known (except for the third helicopter). Therefore, all information can be submitted with distances relative to the border and to each other. Of course, we do not know the exact location of the Patriot air defense system, and I think we will never know. Maybe you can, like a detective, recreate the whole picture of this day. I think the video could be very interesting. And no one in the world has done this before. Sorry for my bad English. I hope you understood what I wrote.
@showtime112
@showtime112 9 месяцев назад
Thanks for the suggestion, your English is more that good. For now, I mostly stay away from current conflicts as there's usually not enough information for a proper coverage. Let's hope the war ends soon so researchers can dig for precise information. Also, current simulations I use might not have all the necessary assets for such reenactments but that might change.
@Tadeo_Carrizo
@Tadeo_Carrizo 9 месяцев назад
I love your videos , i think we need a Jalil Zandi video , the most successful pilot of the F-14 achieved 11 kills , being the most successful pilot in the Iran-Iraq war, greetings from Argentina 🇦🇷❤
@showtime112
@showtime112 9 месяцев назад
Thank you very much! I agree that I should do more videos on Iranian F-14s in the war with Iraq. Sadly, I've only done one so far.
@Tadeo_Carrizo
@Tadeo_Carrizo 9 месяцев назад
@@showtime112 Yeah , Iran F-14 pilots have some crazy stories
@jankutac9753
@jankutac9753 3 месяца назад
The aircraft is called "Lavochkin five"
@paulhickie6974
@paulhickie6974 7 месяцев назад
Kick ass pilot 🤘🤘.
@showtime112
@showtime112 7 месяцев назад
Certainly. Thank you for commenting!
@Whitpusmc
@Whitpusmc 9 месяцев назад
I am sure he was a skilled and brave pilot. Given the difficulties with information gathering due in my war time, given occasional lapses in diligence in scorekeeping even among democracies with a free press, and the difference in scoring methodology, there’s little chance he was the top allied ace. Still, hardcore, lucky, brave and skilled. Undoubtedly one of the best allied pilots of the 2 WW.
@showtime112
@showtime112 9 месяцев назад
Thank you for the comment! It is true that methodology was different for various nations and that some of them were more strict in recognizing kills than others. If we use the common denominator (i.e. official number of individual kills), then he does come on top. If someone was to investigate every single kill of every major ace and try to corroborate them, it might give different results. (of course, that will not happen 😁)
@Whitpusmc
@Whitpusmc 9 месяцев назад
@@showtime112 Darn, my comment got put the in wrong place or I screwed up… Also, to be clear, I think you do an excellent job of your videos, and I’m not saying anything intentionally to take away from the quality that you produce .
@geordiedog1749
@geordiedog1749 9 месяцев назад
What is super cooling if an engine? I can’t seem to find any info on it. Plenty on overheating but not on the opposite.
@showtime112
@showtime112 9 месяцев назад
I believe it simply means that engines were sometimes running too cold and unable to achieve normal temperatures.
@TK57477
@TK57477 9 месяцев назад
Well, if engine is overcooled it works not properly, resulting in faster deterioration of components and loss of power. Finally it may result in a breakdown that will lead to loss of aircraft. Soviet WWII engines had pretty low service hours, so pilots needed to be very careful when putting temperature mode of the engine.
@geordiedog1749
@geordiedog1749 9 месяцев назад
@@TK57477 I guess it was how an engine that’s got thousands of tiny explosions creating masses of heat inside it every minute can get “super cooled” is my question?
@damnmedic1986
@damnmedic1986 2 месяца назад
​​@@geordiedog1749during the dive, to meet these thousands of tiny explosions, the air flow moves at a speed of about 600 km/h IAS.Oh yes, it is also cooler than the operating temperature of the engine by about 100 ° C.
@jerrymail
@jerrymail 9 месяцев назад
Often, you have the feeling that Soviet pilots, as Soviet tankers, were hastily trained and quickly shot down. It's obviously wrong.
@showtime112
@showtime112 9 месяцев назад
Generally, they were but this was especially true early in the War. As it progressed, level of training was getting better and some very good pilots emerged from it.
@timonsolus
@timonsolus 9 месяцев назад
No, it's correct. But there were some Soviet pilots who were both lucky and skilled, and they racked up high scores. Just like British pilots in WW1, the vast majority were shot down before becoming aces, but some scored very many kills.
@Ruweisat
@Ruweisat 9 месяцев назад
War Thunder? I thought it might have been made using IL-2 Great Battles but it’s not.
@showtime112
@showtime112 9 месяцев назад
Yes, it's War Thunder. It offers a very wide selection of aircraft and I'm probably more proficient with its mission editor that with IL-2's.
@Whitpusmc
@Whitpusmc 9 месяцев назад
The USAF has revised its kill counts occasionally over time, there was just a revision published last year of one pilot if memory serves. I don’t know if I’m actually in favor of it unless some indisputable evidence comes mea forward as witnesses and other evidence is long gone. I completely understand the reasons a country might deliberately inflate a kill count, or like in the case I think of great Britain during the blitz, not rigorously investigate every shoot down claim. But I think we need to take the Soviet unions WW2 kill claims with a grain of salt. How large a grain of salt can be debated. I think mine might be a little bit larger than yours, but you’re probably better informed. Watch the 1950s edition of the movie Stalingrad to see the lengths the Soviets were willing to go to to manage “history.” But to be very clear, I am taking nothing away from the dedication to bravery, the hard work, and the skill of the individual in question.
@showtime112
@showtime112 9 месяцев назад
I am aware that the official score of many pilots may not necessarily reflect reality and that the Soviets might be more guilty in that aspect than other. But that is very hard to quantify. Unless someone compared all the records carefully. But I have no doubt that Kozhedub was still one of the most successful and skillful Allied pilots. And if we go by the officially recognized victories, his score is the highest. Also, YT video titles need to be at least a little exaggerated and sensational, otherwise they are ignored. Thank you for contributing!
@damnmedic1986
@damnmedic1986 2 месяца назад
The applications of any countries that took part in that war should be treated with skepticism. However, the fetish accounts of fighter pilots were in Nazi Germany, not in the USSR. You are unlikely to find an overclame higher than 10 to 1 for one fight on the part of the pilots of the anti-Hitler coalition, and for example, the guys from II./JG5 28.Vl.44 drew themselves 27 victories in one battle (Soviet losses - 2 aircraft).
@Narses_the_aremnian
@Narses_the_aremnian 9 месяцев назад
he died with his country
@showtime112
@showtime112 9 месяцев назад
Same time, yes.
@Narses_the_aremnian
@Narses_the_aremnian 9 месяцев назад
@@showtime112 i am kinda happy he didnt have to see the country he fought for so hard collapse
@TK57477
@TK57477 9 месяцев назад
@@Narses_the_aremnian yes, he was lucky. For example, Meliton Kantariya, a guy who put Soviet banner on Reichstag outlived his comrade and USSR, was forced to leave his home due to one of post-Soviet civil wars, being a 90 years old refuge in a new Russia who had another problems to deal with. In his last interview he regretted living up to 1991 :(
@raypurchase801
@raypurchase801 3 месяца назад
I distrust the claims of a Soviet pilot in the same way that I the Soviet claims about who committed the Katyn Forest Massacre.
@philipfoster7269
@philipfoster7269 3 месяца назад
62 actual or 62 claimed but not verified?
@showtime112
@showtime112 3 месяца назад
62 confirmed by the Soviet Air Force. This basically means that his superiors believed the claims (or chose to believe them). As far as I know, claims of Soviet aces haven't been precisely compared by German records (and they probably won't be)
@damnmedic1986
@damnmedic1986 2 месяца назад
​@@showtime112No, such work is being carried out by Russian historians, including with regard to the applications of German pilots on the Eastern Front. For example, Vasily Stalin officially counted two shot down, and now it has been established that he can claim one (for the plane lost by the Germans in the area of his combat departure, there is another application from a pilot of another regiment).
@SilentGeorge
@SilentGeorge 9 месяцев назад
Ukrainian and Allied? Lol Quite laughable how the author avoids words "soviet" or "red army" in the title. :) Afraid to be ashamed? Kozhdub was Ukrainian by ethicity, soviet citizen, flew for Red Army Air Force and yes, he was a pilot of antihitler coalition till the end of the war. As a Soviet pilot he then was on the other side of course.
@showtime112
@showtime112 9 месяцев назад
It's laughable what some people think as laughable :)
@SilentGeorge
@SilentGeorge 9 месяцев назад
@@showtime112 Yeah, same sort of laughable with "politically correct" statements from politicians like "7 million ukrainians fought nazies in allied ranks." LOL, like if they had their own army. They were part of Red Army and fought along side other 23millions soldiers of dozens of nationalities. They were Soviets. But some people deliberately distort meanings nowadays or are afraid to say things as they are to don't get pointed or to don't get hit by "cancel culture" train of modern politically correct trends ;) Your videos are good though. Keep up the good job.
@krzysztofgawe1089
@krzysztofgawe1089 9 месяцев назад
There are no books about Kozhedub because it's still impossible to realistically verify russian combat reports. It's not that that they're not coherent with german reports. It would be understandable. The problem is, that russian squadron reports don't match russian regiments reports. Russian regiments reports don't match russian division and corps reports, and so on... Add german reports to it, and you become a mess that no serious historian can decipher. Most literature is either pure propaganda and are written without any reality consideration, or totally opposite: Written to discredit famous ace. Neither of them are good.
@showtime112
@showtime112 9 месяцев назад
Thank you for providing the insight.
@Chilly_Billy
@Chilly_Billy 9 месяцев назад
How ironic that the leading Soviet Ace was Ukrainian.
@showtime112
@showtime112 9 месяцев назад
Yes, you could say that. I wonder how he would feel about the current situation.
@SilentGeorge
@SilentGeorge 9 месяцев назад
Why? 7 millions of Ukrainians were fighting in Red Army. 500.000 of them were from Galicia. And only 70.000 western ukrainians collaborated with nazies, but now are glorified as heroes. There is nothing ironic that leading ace was Ukrainian. It's actually absolutely normal given the time.
@Dog.soldier1950
@Dog.soldier1950 9 месяцев назад
Just a reminder. The Soviets were co-belligerent not allies of the west
@showtime112
@showtime112 9 месяцев назад
Not according to every single historical source I've ever seen. Here's the definition from Britannica for example: www.britannica.com/topic/Allied-powers-World-War-II
@TK57477
@TK57477 9 месяцев назад
In WWII our countries were allies, learn history properly. It doesen't means that we share all the causes in common. Russia always was and will be contender to your country, it's OK, I guess. The situation of last 10 years reminded us this truth.
@chups1447
@chups1447 9 месяцев назад
👍
@showtime112
@showtime112 9 месяцев назад
Thanks Chups!
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