18.06.2023 Ivo Pogorelich Chopin Recital Live recording, National Centre for the Performing Arts, Beijing, China (国家大剧院) F. Chopin Polonaise-Fantasy in A flat major, Op. 61 肖邦：降A大调幻想波兰舞曲，Op. 61 Photo by @NCPA
Thank you for sharing this. To this day, Pogorelich remains as one of the very few pianists that fully expresses themself in their music. Quite the stark contrast to hyper-efficient modern playing
Honestly, we did this to ourselves. I have being slightly taught (less than 1 hour) by Pogorelich and Pletnev, you cannot imagine how much they want to understand the music and how humble they are. Yet, there are so many "so-called" international competition winner, "famous" musical school professor who said they just had "terrible taste". In a way, they can afford to play like this only when they become famous. Should any lesser famous pianists try this, his/her career is ruined. If we are just a tiny bit more lenient towards what a interpretation can be, we will not have been in this power struggle. I am sorry as a part-time concert pianist under Olga Scheps, the consensus is that classical music is dying. We have not really new exciting works like Rachmaninoff's to connect the audience, and now we are losing those who are daring enough to slightly deviate from the score. Once designed to be a chance for young pianists, competitions have become the gold standard, even if it GOES against the writing of Chopin and Neuhaus etc. Soon, we will be in a stage where pianists will only play to the same circle, and quoting some famous pianists, "we eat our own sh*t and feel infinitely good about that".
I have never heard this piece pled with such thoughtfulness and depth It was almost as though I were hearing it for the first time. Ivo Pogorelich is the very definition of an artist, which has often meant taking The Road Less Traveled, come what may, rather than following the pack. He is the kind of legendary pianist that we thought only existed in days gone by. Today, only he, Grigory Sokolov and a small handful of others can measure up to that standard. Ivo Pogorelich is and always has been great. Even so, is is sad to think that he could have been even greater if he hadn't had so much tragedy in his life. I feel for him and wish him Godspeed and continued good fortune as he continues to follow his own Shining Star.
All the stupid comments about mental health, medications, and so on et cetera. What a shame on that thinking system. He is free from poisoned tongues and poor minds. In there alive presentation, ego is sacrificing for give music into a perfectible so plastic modelled world. Go on! Somebody replied this comment saying: "( ...Valéry He plays bad as never before, his phrases make no sense, his dynamics neither. You must be from another planet to understand the "structure" of such mess. He lost contact with music)." This is a fine example of the thinking system as I've heard so many for so many decades, students, masters, audiences, collectives in conservatoires and academies, etc. The so called: 'bad as never before', the 'makes no sense', the 'lost contact with music'. All of that refers to the standards. Forget about this inquisitive ideological correctiveness and there you are just music, in sound format, and the human contribution. Then, all poison attached, disappears, replaced by pure Joy of the possibility to make it. Making it as a simple performer or audience contributor. The unnecessary is not the way or form he do this, but the insatiable mind linked to the pornography of the perfect. Pure misery of mind attachment
Pogorelich was once a remarkably talented pianist, but this is a disaster, as are most of his performances now. The difference between then and now is so great, something has obviously happened. What happened, I don't know. But it's understandable that people are speculating about it.
@@golden-63 It is your opinion. Blah blah as always people don't care about the artist processes far from people's reactions, ethics, morals, standards, just a bunch of data in their minds. Shut up and feel respect. With kind regards far away from your ego expectations. We are swimming together all of. What are you hiding looking from excellence standards. Relax and enjoy new renewed music, just pure with no should be this or that. Look at it if you can, sure you can bro. With no mind corrupted between. Shall be Love
Desiring a performance which delivers coherent musical ideas should not be characterized as, “pornography of perfection” as you put it. That is nonsense with all due respect. The work of Chopin in this case has been skewed to the extent that the original meaning has been sacrificed for Pogo’s hyper-individual approach. Take, for example, Kissin’s most recent performance of Rach 3. Although much slower than the ballpark of standard performance tempi, he still communicates coherent musical ideas because it is clear that his first and foremost priority is to communicate the music that Rachmaninoff composed. Although his interpretation is still very personal, the integrity of the musical pacing is firmly intact. Not the case with this performance. There is no doubt that Pogorelich is a living legend among us, or even that he has the liberty to make such bold interpretive choices. But that also does not mean that his choices are true to the composer’s musical intention, or that audiences will enjoy his unusual interpretations.
And the applause…. If you compare the score as it was written by Chopin with what he plays it is quite shocking. Imagine playing the last bars marked pp with this ugly ferocity. But, there are stunning moments in all this what at times is quite grotesque.
@@iianneill6013 True. I used to like his interpretations and playing a lot when he was younger. I agree, musicians should use their imaginations and not be a carbon copy of everyone else. But something is wrong with him. Perhaps health problems?
@@golden-63 I find some of his performances very eccentric, as if he had over-thought some line of logic, or if he was stretching the rubato in search of something novel ... but there are other performances where he achieves real emotional engagement, where he finds something profound in the piece that most other pianists overlooked. He is a complicated man. I'm grateful that we have performances by him and others like Nyiregyhazi but also less eccentric interpretations. I feel that we can enjoy the unique qualities of all of them.
"Chopin´s playing evoked all the sweet and sorrowful voices of the past. Chopin sang the tears of music...in a whole gamut of different forms and voices, from that of the warrior to those of children and angels..." Bohdan Zaleski, polish poet, personal diary 2 feb 1844. "Under the fingers of Chopins´s hand the piano became the voice of an archangel, an orchestra, an army, a raging ocean, a creation of the universe, the end of the world." Solange Clesinger. Ivo is the archetype of the modern artist, the isolated and courageous master, who finds his own way to new heights of expression, no matter the prejudices or the barriers of misunderstanding raised against him. He stands alone at the beginning of a new epoch like a prophet, mapping the routes that art would take. Pogorelich´s cathartic and mystical sound, is concerned with the ultimate mysteries that transcend this world. His grandiose, colossal and majestic art, symbolizes the struggle of the human soul to find release from the bonds of its material body. His exquisite and overwhelming music continues to echo throughout the entire performance and beyond, so the action is at once momentary, eternal and complete. Pogorelich´s interpretations are indescribably beautiful and irresistible. His sound is pure poetry and extremely emotional, yet entirely unsentimental. We are hypnotized by his new and radical naturalness, by his nobility, dignity, severity and sobriety; transporting us to states of wonder, ecstasy, meditation, redemption, love and compassion. Sound and Silence, Life and Death, Time and Space; collapse into the Eternal moment of Infinity. - THE KING OF CHESS - You are the protégé of Death contemplating nailed in your Grave the game of Life. You're the one with the eyes on the nails of a Cross. Your hands caress tenderly the blind backs of your soldiers. Your armed and soulless guardians they ask you kneeling that you nail a cross to their chests because they are afraid of not being crucified at the desired time. Loyal painters advance drawing you the secret roads of Death. Your steel tears destroy when they fall the bare toes of your feet. Over the Earth keyboard the rain unearths the thousand hands of war. ! Oh King of Chess living pain of your childhood! ! You die for not winning and you also die to win! Alvaro Serralta - EL REY DEL AJEDREZ - Tu eres el protegido de la Muerte que contemplas clavado en tu Tumba el Juego de la Vida. Eres el que lleva los ojos en los clavos de una Cruz. Tus manos acarician con ternura las espaldas ciegas de tus soldados. Tus guardianes armados y desalmados te piden de rodillas que claves una cruz en sus pechos porque tienen miedo de no ser crucificados en el momento deseado. Leales pintores avanzan dibujándote los secretos caminos de la Muerte. Tus lágrimas de acero destrozan al caer los desnudos dedos de tus pies. Sobre el teclado de Tierra la lluvia desentierra las mil manos de la Guerra. ! Oh Rey del Ajedrez dolor vivo de tu niñez ! ! Tu mueres por no Vencer y también mueres por Vencer ! Alvaro Serralta -----
