It is incredible how he has been able to find such originality in a field that admits so little innovation. Martha Argerich was right: Ivo Pogorelich is a genius.
When I first heard him, I thought he was Martha Argerich's brother, though most of the belief was due to their names which are related (at the time I didn't know their exact names): Pogorelich and Argerich
Totally agree. I believe that recording industry is mostly to blame. Editing, splicing, re-takes, etc, have DESTROYED the notion of spontaneity: both in terms of the performer’s drive, and the listeners expectations.
Le génie est une fête. J'ai eu l'occasion de préparer le Steinway D de la Salle Mercure à Montréal lorsqu'il vint y donner un récital et y avait inclu la sonate N0.2 de Chopin. Il m'avait dit ne pas bien connaître les Steinway New-York et avait pris plusieurs heures pour s'habituer à l'instrument qu'il avait finalement apprécié. Quatre heure de répétition dans un éclairage ne dépassant pas l'équivalent d'une simple chandelle, à un tempo métronomique d'environ 40. Un récital unique. Avec Pogorelich, il faut oublier tout ce que nous avons déjà entendu et nous laisser habiter par son jeu unique, ses tempi parfois étonnants et son approche incroyablement originale.
He absolutely went for it, and left everything on that keyboard! Who cares about the wrong notes, when the music comes alive? Competitions nowadays are so boring, everyone keeping it safe, sounding similar to each other giving interpretations within the accepted norm.
Ivo Pogorelich è un pianista straordinario, tecnici ne abbiamo a iosa, chi invece (come lui) ha tecnica, espressività, sentimenti così evidenti, è una perla rara; rientra tra i pianisti che più amo. Grazie.
This rendition is the proof why competitions are stupid. Yes, Pogorelich did make some mistakes. But his approach was more daunting and mature than most of competitors these days.
Mistakes? That thing was as perfect as the sheen of a facet on a cut diamond. His technique is flawless. Like it is with very very few among pianists. (Michelangeli, Weissenberg, etc.)
This performance has brought us right into the head of Chopin how exactly he felt. Ivo Pogorelich is indeed an absolute genius. Bravo and bravo ! The funeral marche was felt just like it happened RIGHT NEXT TO YOU !
@@skynox7777 actally quite many Russians were laureates of the Int. Chopin Competitions and others. No need to write non sense. Btw, learn some history too.
I can't stop watching this. It's inspired me to relisten to Pogorelich, especially his earlier recordings, and I appreciate him so much more than I ever did before. A true genius.
This is such an incredible performance. He puts out all of the potential from this piece. This has very good, concrete structure and great dynamics, nuance of playing. I think I need to relisten all of my added videos with him. What a talent
We need a "Horowitz" contest; we have the Rubinstein, Van Cliburn contest - why not Horowitz? Rather than the standard being "note" perfection to the exclusion of great performances, why not one that focuses on amazing performances, etc. This is past due. The piano world needs something like this.
"In the third stage, Pogorelić once again caused controversy, performing his program in the wrong order, leaving the stage part way through, and wearing an extravagant concert attire that made him look like "a prince dropped in the middle of the desert". In the end, Pogorelić was not admitted into the final. Martha Argerich resigned in protest, proclaiming him a "genius" who "her colleagues could not appreciate because of an entrenched conservatism", which is "why she was ashamed to be associated with them". -- 1980 Chopin Competition Wiki page
Max, thank you for this. I heard him here in Sydney in the early 80s. It was an experience that has never quite left me. He sat down at the piano, and an Aladdin's Cave of wonders was opened up before me as he began to play. He held the audience spellbound. I love him!
Ja miałam to szczęście - stałam w nieopisanym tłoku przy bocznym wejściu i z zapartym tchem chłonęłam każdy dźwięk tego genialnego dzieła - zagranego przez Ivo tak, jak powinno zabrzmieć. To była chwila - jedna z najważniejszych w moim życiu. Miałam wtedy 20 lat, a gdy po kilkunastu latach żegnałam bardzo bliską mi osobę, ponownie odczułam prawdę tej interpretacji i ta prawda pomogła mi dalej żyć.
@@user-ho3fy9xs5b Zazdroszczę, ja miałem wtedy 10 lat, nie byłem na konkursie ale nawet relacja TV mi wystarczyła żebym się zachwycił Ivem. Nawet dzisiaj mnie to dziwi, a mam teraz 53 lata. To wykonanie Pogorelica to było coś z innego wymiaru.
Attualmente tanto tecnicismo circo , ma questi titani avevano tutto e ogni volta torno sempre ad ascoltare le meravigliose incisioni di Richter , Argerich, Pogorelich . ❤. Sempre fedele a quell epoca feconda libera e piena di vera e misteriosa Arte
Thank you so much for posting! Imagine the audacity of people complaining about this incredible musician?! The passion overflowing, the heartfelt meaning to every note and such mastery. The bravery to put everything into a performance, such total commitment. Mere mortals can only dream of such accomplishments. Love Ivo!
Like a living organism! Makes you watching this coming to life, and grow, and wow, the first movement went over like nothing! Yes, the jury has its tastes and prejudices, we all have, competitions are just competitions, but this man could really create some magic! And these unique Goliathic hands, honed in sweat for years until being able to control the keys from virtually all angles. Thanks for sharing !
Pamiętam szok po werdykcie jury niedopuszczającym go do finału konkursu. Był ulubieńcem publiczności i faworytem Marty Argerich, która na znak protestu opuściła grono jurorów. Skandal, który zaistniał wokół jego osoby, tylko mu pomógł. A w ogóle- olbrzymi talent i odwaga wykonawcza.
Chopin Piano Sonata No 2, Finale LE GENIE a la force d'exprimer l'univers illimité dont il se sent de plus en plus attiré mais les "formes traditionnelles" qui restent derrière ne lui suffissent pas pour illustrer le nouveaux univers qu'il ressent, qu'il découvre, et avant d'y pénétrer, quand le corps semble être épuisé, abandonné, il a encore l'énergie de peindre en sons le manque de contour de devant qu'il flaire, la nébuleuse, le néant, la perspective de la fin ... après tant de recherches tourbillonnantes et précaires, la force qui l'habite encore marque deux points vigueurs, deux accords qui le ramènent, le retiennent, le réveillent d’un sommeil hallucinant... Il est encore là !... !! (dans un état d’esprit pareille je ne suis pas sûr que Chopin aurait eu le temps de penser à l'atonalisme...(voir Ligeti)
Wonderful ! I saw him at the Palacio de Bellas Artes in México City playing Chopin Concerto 1 and his 4 Scherzos, among another masterpieces. He was simply excellent !! Mr. Pogorelich is one of the great permormers of Chopin ( and many more ).
Such a profound and graceful interpretation. Pogorelich and Sokolov are for sure the best living pianists. Their sound transcends the superficial world of "just right notes at the right tempo" of almost all modern pianists from today
Иво, браво! Сергей Арзуманов, мой отец, пианист, ну и я сам. С Малинином вы встречались. Бах? Вообще - шедевр. Гаспард. Держитесь. Ваша марка - золото.
I am imaging a severe storm hit Warsaw in 19th century and Chopin was hit by thunderbolt, which somehow transposed him into the future - this very competition in 1980. He regains his consciousness by hearing familiar notes Ivo was playing. Chopin is stunned. He slowly comes to the podium, but Ivo is already gone. He wanted to tell him that this is exactly how this should be played and thank him for pointing this out.
On the one side, he unfortunately did more mistakes than acceptable for a semifinal in THAT Competition. On the other, he still had a much higher Level that a lot of the Jurors TOGETHER. So, this is a big Problem! Because just few of them (the best ones, like Argerich) liked him and recognized him as a COLLEGUE. The gave him the maximum points. Many of them where just professors which find him an interesting Pianist but really hated the few wrong notes, as professors do. They gave him mediate marks. And a lot of them where mediocre pianists, which felt like being amateurs while hearing to him. They HAD to hate him. It is interesting that this kind of Jurors did not refer to mistakes while giving Zero or one point: they neglected him from being a Chopin player at all! They tried to eliminate his Career chances. Ironically, they could not imagine, how much they helped him doing so. Now nobody knows the 1st Prize winner of that Edition. we only see him in the panel of Jurors of Chopin Competition every 5 years, we are forced to remember for a few days that he was a former winner, and then we Forget his Name again. But we still know Pogorelich.
@@vladibaby79 The winner of 1980 Chopin competition is Dang Thai Son, which is well renowned pianist. I do agree Pogorelich performance in the competition is ironic and definitely deserved to get into the final round, but you have to give credits to other talent pianist too.
Martha Argerich walked out after he was eliminated. That's how he became famous although he is a singular phenomenon. And I don't think you can either love him or hate him, but it's possible to feel both love, hate...he certainly never did anything conventionally.
On comprends pourquoi la grande Martha Argerich a reconnu en lui un artiste unique . Quand on dit " unique" on parle d'un artiste qui ne reproduit pas ce qu'on attend de lui , mais un pianiste qui fait VIVRE la musique , selon son ressenti , son âme. Cette sonate est tout à coup une nouvelle oeuvre de Chopin jusque là inconnue ! N'est ce pas ça, le talent , sortir des sentiers battus ? Et tant pis pour les gardiens du temple qui n'aiment pas !
Martha Argerich left the judging panel because she knew how much of a genius he was and couldn't accept the fact that he didn't win the competition. All that being said and what is often the case is that he went on to a major professional career performing
Ivo is Frederic. Pogorelich = Chopin = Frederic Pogorelich. This performance was on the same fuckin' level with musicians like Emil Giles, Arthur Rubinstein, Mauricio Polini , Claudio Arrau , Yulianna Avdeeva and Martha Argerich! No : it was something brand new . We never heard Chopin like this! Never!
Pamiętam ten Konkurs Chopinowski z 1980 roku.Ivo Pogorelic zagrał wspaniałe, szczególnie sonatę B-mol.Coś wspaniałego. Grał po Konkursie w Krakowskiej Filharmonii ,ale bilety były nie do dostania.
I'd like to be a heavenly fly on the heavenly wall, witnessing Frederic meeting Ivo (some time in the heavenly future, of course) for the first time and saying (in French): "I heard you playing some of my pieces and I thought: I wish I had written that"
"Fight to achieve quality, go deeper... find the origin of the sound. You have to get into the phycological frame of mind in which composers wrote their works in order to discover its secrets. One should always try as much as possible to rediscover music as though one is hearing it for the first time, searching everywhere for new meanings and new depths. The highest function of the artist is to release the spirituality and the emotional immediacy that lie within the score. A composition can only be performed well if it is entirely yours, not only every note from memory, but the notes have become you, and you have become the notes. Fight and find the substance, then go to the higher spheres. Music takes you to another universe of eternity that remains with you after the concert is finished." Ivo Pogorelich. --- "Under the fingers of Chopins´s hand the piano became the voice of an archangel, an orchestra, an army, a raging ocean, a creation of the universe, the end of the world." Solange Clesinger. --- "Chopin´s playing evoked all the sweet and sorrowful voices of the past. Chopin sang the tears of music...in a whole gamut of different forms and voices, from that of the warrior to those of children and angels..." Bohdan Zaleski, polish poet, personal diary 2 feb 1844.
Well, in all fairness, pianists are dropped at various stages of the competition - so being dropped is not that unusual. However, Pogorelich was a very passionate player. And - I loved his performance of the Scriabin Etude Op. 8 #2 - beautiful! Check YT for video. Pogorelich's star has risen - while the winner of the 1980 Chopin competition has not been a major name on the concert stage.
