Iwata WS400 Series 2 v Series 1 For Clear Coat

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First video, Unboxing of Series2 and spray pattern compared to Series1
• Iwata WS400 Series 2 U...
Second video, revision spray out,
• Iwata WS400 Series 2 &...
Third video, review of WS400 Series 2 1.4HD
• Iwata WS400 Series 2 1...
Fourth video, a review of the WS400 Series 1, 1.3HD in the new configuration.
• Iwata WS400 Series1, C...
My Top 12 Mini Spray Guns Video,
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Comparing different clear coats;
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9 дней назад

I've been using the old model for about 10 years. I've noticed the split spray pattern everyone talks about. It seems that a simple adjustment prevents the problem. However, I would not mind trying the newer one.

@peteshobbies5383 9 дней назад

Hi buddy, I've only had one person who says it didn't work. Everyone else has found it does allow you to use full fan, cheers mate 👍

@ricardo436 Год назад

Hi Pete, I'm from Brazil. Congratulations on the important and exceptional work presented. Please continue with videos of this quality.

@peteshobbies5383 Год назад

Thank you Ricardo, much appreciated 👍

@cam81366 Год назад

Aligning the tip worked for me.

@peteshobbies5383 Год назад

Hi Tony, it really does make a difference, once that's done i really can't see any difference between the old and new in the way they work, cheers mate 👍

@walterwalters3069 Год назад

Thank you Pete , because I started to read from other "specialist" something like WAY WAY better or a Lot better. Now every body can see that nothing really new.... For me even body style on version 2 very cheap .....I will keep my Black Mamba for sure!

@peteshobbies5383 Год назад

Thank you Walter 👍

@ANDY-we7mr Год назад

Hi there pete super like 👍 from me yes mate that W400 is a nice spray gun 🔫 I seen a video 📹 with someone spraying a classic car with the clear coat gun 🔫 excellent quality results the finsh was outstanding he used novol classic clear coat paint thanks again pete for putting the settings on helps people out who are just starting out.

@peteshobbies5383 Год назад

Thanks Andrew, much appreciated, how are you now, you ok?

@ANDY-we7mr Год назад

@@peteshobbies5383 A LOT BETTER MATE THANKS DO YOU PUT THINNERS PETE IN THE KAPCI 6030 SOMEBODY SAID IT REDUCES THE SOLIDS IN THE CLEAR COATE OR DID YOU JUST WARM IT UP MATE

@peteshobbies5383 Год назад

Just warm it up mate, you can put thinners, just 5% or so but it isn't needed really but warming it up really does help

@rodeocz 4 месяца назад

Maybe you don't see the difference because you have a great hand. It could make a difference on a less experienced person like me. Thanks for your videos and your answers.

@peteshobbies5383 4 месяца назад

Hi buddy, yes, the series 2 clear gun is easier to set up than the series 1, so many will find it easier to use. I appreciate the comments mate, thank you 👍

@bdautobody Год назад

Aligning the the tip with the cap air horns. Definitely works! and yes some align easier than others as I’ve got 4 ws400’s! Thanks for the tip Pete 💪💪

@peteshobbies5383 Год назад

Thanks mate, yes, it really does work doesn't it, it could also explain why some have said they can use the WS400 series 1 on full fan without problems , I have seen one that lined up perfectly without over or under tightening the tip, of course that one sprays perfect. Cheers 👍

@lutra7670 Год назад

Is there already someone who did a mod to the old nozzle to line up correctly ?

@peteshobbies5383 Год назад

Hi Lu, haven't seen one yet , it's actually not a problem holding the gun at a slight angle, in fact you don't know you are doing it as you follow the patern. I've seen a few series 1 guns and the tip actually finishes at different points on each, one was spot on, just like the series 2, this might explain why some people get on with the series1 better than others, cheers buddy 👍

@peteshobbies5383 Год назад

Ok mate, thanks 👍

@lutra7670 Год назад

@@peteshobbies5383 I modded my nozzle to perfectly line up with a lathe. Will try these days and let you know how it turns out. Posted an update on Instagram LackLude. Surely marked you on my post Pete. Thanks for all your effort

@AdrianProPainter 10 месяцев назад

Great video well done. Good job. 👍👍

@peteshobbies5383 10 месяцев назад

Thanks, Adrian, much appreciated 👍

@JohnWD40TC02 Год назад

This should be interesting but I'll have to wait until tomorrow before I watch it Pete👍

@peteshobbies5383 Год назад

Cheers John, hope your ok 👍

@camerongrady4644 Год назад

hey mate hello from australia just tryed your trick yes it works thanks heaps love your videos

@peteshobbies5383 Год назад

Hi Cameron, greetings to you guys in Australia, yes, it does work doesn't it, you need to hold the gun at a slight angle but it does make the older gun performe just like the new, cheers buddy 👍

@camerongrady4644 Год назад

@@peteshobbies5383 i saw your video and thought ill give this a go i am spraying my ws400 1.4 hd full fan and full fluid wow its changed the gun , to be honest its alittle slower now because the fans not wound in heaps to tighten the fan pattern but it atomises and the pattern is perfect , i might try a 1.5 nozzle as well now but yes very happy iv fallen in love with it again was always a finicky gun to set up i found , its no big deal holding the gun at a slight angle you dont even notice it when painting , comes natural , i look at the pattern when i paint not the gun cheers mate

@peteshobbies5383 Год назад

@@camerongrady4644 Yes, exactly the same as me, it's just instinctive that you hold the gun following the patern, I've had a 1.5HD setup for a few years but didn't use it much, it's was a bit wet on full fluid with the fan around 2 turns out which is how you had to use them, you can turn the fluid in but then i may as well use my 1.3HD setup which i normally did, now the 1.5HD with the new setup comes into it's own, since this video I picked up a 1.4HD set on ebay so now gives me a good choice , thanks mate 👍

@camerongrady4644 Год назад

@@peteshobbies5383 ok cool ill stick with the 1,4 hd its pretty good , sometimes less is better man it atomises well iv never ever used this thing full fan until now cheers mate

@camerongrady4644 Год назад

congrats on perfecting the ws400 i think thats gold ,

@JohnWD40TC02 Год назад

Hi Pete, fantastic video as always mate you did a great job on the voice over making it easier for people to understand what the differences between the guns and what you need to do to the Series1 to make it spray correctly. As you mentioned in the video the Series2 will be released to the rest of the world in November I'm not sure why Iwata has done this but I do wonder if we (UK and Europe) are beta testers for the gun to see if they get any negative feedback and if the USA/rest of the world will get the same gun or an updated version of the WS400 Series2🤔 I doubt they would tell us if they updated the gun anyway🤷‍♂ Have to agree with your findings though Pete as there is no noticeable difference between the 2 finishes and both guns did a great job on the clearcoat, I've had my WS400 S2 1.3HD Digital for quite a while now and it's performed flawlessly with no issues and the digital gauge is the best I have, even though it's way over priced I have no regrets buying it and hopefully will be getting the Series2 OBS at some point👏🙏👍

@peteshobbies5383 Год назад

Thanks John, yes, maybe we are the test bed for the rest of the world 🙄, The new setup on the Series 1 definitely makes a difference to the original gun and there really is no difference between them, well over priced though but people will pay it as we have 🤑, cheers mate 👍

@Cavalier_Steve Год назад

Hi Pete, great video as always, both panels came out the same by the looks of it to me which is good as they both have a really good finish I can’t see by peel either. I’m pleased you find a usable way of using the gun with its little quirk at an angle, I does make you wonder if other guns are the same or if it’s where the thread is started on the nozzle. See you in the next one. Cheers.

@peteshobbies5383 Год назад

Hi Steve, holding the gun at an angle isn't a problem, you instinctively follow the pattern anyway so you don't realise your doing it and it really does transform the old gun into the new one, apart from the styling and the little adjustment to angle i don't think the old is any different from the new, apart from the £200 price difference of course 🙄, cheers mate 👍

@Cavalier_Steve Год назад

@@peteshobbies5383 Maybe it’s not a fault but a feature 😉

@peteshobbies5383 Год назад

😂😅🤣

@saifulamri1829 Год назад

😍😍😍😍

@AGRB4 Год назад

I can't wait to try this on my original ws400. Thanks for the tip!

@peteshobbies5383 Год назад

Your welcome buddy, please let me know how you get on as me and other's would like to know, cheers 👍

@AGRB4 10 месяцев назад

I totally forgot I commented on this, I did try what you did with aligning the tip, but I didn't have the same results as you. I was really hopeful. Pattern still was split when run wide open.

@peteshobbies5383 10 месяцев назад

@AGRB4 Hi buddy, think maybe you're the only one, I'm wondering what pressure you run at?, also the viscosity of the clear, so higher solids content means it has more chances to work

@AGRB4 10 месяцев назад

@peteshobbies5383 28/29 psi. Not sure on the viscosity. I think it's suppose to be 17/18 seconds. But I'd have to check that.

@peteshobbies5383 10 месяцев назад

@AGRB4 That sounds about the same as my setup. I'm not sure why it's not working, I've tried it on 4 or 5 guns, and others have as well, and it works

@3n1fss 7 месяцев назад

Thank you for the information. I think I will stick to the series one.

@peteshobbies5383 7 месяцев назад

Hi Donny, Yes, I think that's a wise move, so much hype about these new products and really there is little change!

@scottherr642 Год назад

Very nice finishes Pete...guess my version one might get the dust blown off this week. Thanks for this very informative video(although the sagola still wins every box checked for me). The 5000 is second and ws400 would be 3rd if the wbx didn't work flawlessly without the cap/tip fiddling. Keep up the lovely videos Pete.

@peteshobbies5383 Год назад

Cheers Scott, yes, definitely give it a go, it does make a difference, I love my Sagola Xtreme, and the 5000, another one, not sure if you have tried it is the Walcom Carbonio 360 Lite, it's really very good although you do wonder when something will break which you don't with the Sagola or Sata's, thanks for watching mate, much appreciated 👍

@grahammorgan5025 Год назад

Cool video Pete very informative and helpful but my question is for on the series 1 ws the fan control is all the way out Or out a number of turns from closed?

@peteshobbies5383 Год назад

Hi Graham, think i put settings on the video but maybe not, its fully open, so full fan and full fluid , same goes for the series 2 👍

@grahammorgan5025 Год назад

Thanks mate I watched it again and missed it but you did say but thank you for sharing

@peteshobbies5383 Год назад

No worries, thought i did , cheers mate👍

@grahammorgan5025 Год назад

I was thinking Pete are the threads the same as like the Gtipro to prolites if nothing has changed so if you have a series 1 you might be able to get a series 2 setup and the best of both worlds old style gun with the ease of painting like a new one unless if you’re one of lucky ones to get to hold the gun straight up and down? Just a thought?

@peteshobbies5383 Год назад

The Gti Pro and Gti Pro Lite share the same caps and tips but a different needle, they spray the same. The older caps were same fitment but different numbers, so T1 is now TE10 and so on, the Pro lite is lighter as the name would suggest, most parts aren't interchangeable but most of the nose parts are, as i say they spray the same.

@dandee28 2 месяца назад

hey pete, Im looking to buy a new one for work. Which model should I buy and how does it compare to my x5500 1.3 O pattern?

@peteshobbies5383 2 месяца назад

These Iwatas are slower than your X5500. They atomise better, imo, but many that use a Sata fine it hard to make the change

@gerridhodges4084 Год назад

Great work!! In your opinion cost doesn't matter.. Which gun out of all the guns you have tested will give you the slickest finish the easiest?

@peteshobbies5383 Год назад

Hi Gerrid and thank you, I am making a top ten clear and base video and one of the hardest things is ranking the gun's, taking price out of it makes things easier though. For Clearcoat in my top 3 would be Sagola 4600 DVR, Walcom Carbonio Lite HTE 360 and Iwata WS400 Series 2 or Series 1 set up the same. For Base the Devilbiss DV1 Base, Sagola 4600 Xtreme Aqua and the W400 WB Iwata are all very good

@gerridhodges4084 Год назад

@@peteshobbies5383 I have always used sata where does the sata 5000 and 5500 fall in line with your top 3 clear guns.. I'm not stuck on sata its just all I have ever used.

@peteshobbies5383 Год назад

I like both of them, i prefer the 5000 as it's faster than the 5500 although the 5500 is a little more refined, the sata is right up there, when you get to these top gun's there isn't that much in it and the materials used may mean one is better for you than another

@satamanschmidt3428 Год назад

The reason they've done this is the SEMA show in Las Vegas where Iwata is going to introduced the Series 2 to the world. The UK was more or less the test market.

@peteshobbies5383 Год назад

Hi Sataman, that makes sense, the promotion stuff shows the product being designed in Italy and France so i assumed it was some kind of European thing. I would still love to know weather they have known for years that lining up the tip cut outs with the air horns transforms this gun or weather they stumbled on this wile researching the new one, i suspect the former rather than the latter 🤔

@satamanschmidt3428 Год назад

@@peteshobbies5383 Trust me, as thorough as the Japanese are they knew about six months after the introduction of the Series 1 when the complaints started to come in. It didn't take them 10 years to figure this out.

@jeremyoetken2094 Год назад

I got mine in Italy shipped to the USA

@peteshobbies5383 Год назад

Hi Jeremy, probably got a good price as well as the dollar is so strong, have you used it yet?

@jeremyoetken2094 Год назад

@@peteshobbies5383 Yes, it was a very good price and it sprays amazing. I really like the digital guage.

@jeremiahtinsley8048 Год назад

Hey Pete what is a good gun settings for the iwata ws 400 evo supernova and air pressure for clearcoat

@peteshobbies5383 Год назад

Hi Jeremiah, for the series 1 WS400 I would recommend the fan between 1 3/4 to 2 1/4 turns out from fully in, full fluid at 2 bar which is 29psi, if you can turn the front cap so the air horns are level with the splits in the tip and still use it then you can open the fan right up

@davidray4655 Год назад

Hello Pete. Just bought a ws400 series1 off ebay that says it has the base cap. My question since watching all your ws400 videos is, can I just but the 01 cap or do I need to buy the clear fluid nozzle as well, I've read where you say the holes are bigger in the clear nozzle. Is this the best route for setting this gun up for clear or will the cap change suffice? Thanks for all you do.

@peteshobbies5383 Год назад

Hi David, the only difference between the WS400 clear and base is the tip, the cap is the same except for the very early ones where everything was the same before they realised there was a problem if you used it for base. So for it to be a clear gun all you need is the tip

@davidray4655 Год назад

@@peteshobbies5383 thanks Pete.

@peteshobbies5383 Год назад

@@davidray4655 No worries 👍

@davidray4655 Год назад

@@peteshobbies5383 well, looking on spraygunsdirect it show a needle nozzle set for OBS and the other one doesn't. Which one is for clear ?

@peteshobbies5383 Год назад

@david ray The OBS is the base version with the smaller holes, the clear versions normally sold are HD so slightly bigger than the 1.3 it says, 1.32 in fact, so the clear will have HD or Clear on them, the base ones have OBS or Base on them

@vehiclesprayerssociety Год назад

😍😍😍😍😍

@peteshobbies5383 Год назад

Much appreciated 🙏

@3rekoatskustoms929 Год назад

So is this a manufacturing defect if not why don't Iwata give this info out. I have the supernova and will try this thank for sharing.

@peteshobbies5383 Год назад

Hi buddy, I'm really not sure if they have known about this for a long time or just stumbled over it wile designing the new one. I think the reason they haven't said anything is they are only interested in selling new gun's, I don't think they could care less about the old stuff, this really has transformed the old gun so they aren't going to say nothing to damage new sales, thanks for watching 👍

@chrisrushton3719 2 месяца назад

Do you think the series 1? Is better than a dvone clear

@peteshobbies5383 2 месяца назад

There's very little in it, and it depends on many things. For me, I would rather have the WS400

@les1ed Год назад

Im, going to advertise you on 2 paint channels

@peteshobbies5383 Год назад

Ok mate, thank you 👍

@Supanova70 3 месяца назад

What were your final settings for Series one question mark

@peteshobbies5383 3 месяца назад

Hi Mate, because I lined up the cap with the tip you can use it flat out, so full fluid and full fan at 2bar or 29psi, if you don't line the tip up then I normally use the series 1 on full fluid, fan 2 turns from fully in at 2bar, it's a smaller wetter pattern like that 👍

@Supanova70 3 месяца назад

I just got the series 1 and hosed the job with clear.I knew the standard settings were not right.

@peteshobbies5383 3 месяца назад

Did you get problems then? , what settings did you use?

@Supanova70 3 месяца назад

@@peteshobbies5383 full trigger 3 out from closed 2 bar. But panel temp was 70 and so was clear. Might have got too close.5 " away.

@peteshobbies5383 3 месяца назад

It would be worth checking your fan pattern, on most, but not all series 1 WS400 clear guns turning the fan out more than two and a quarter starts to split the fan, top and bottom heavy. On the WS400, I'm normally around 7 or 8 inches because the fan is closed up it gives a wetter pattern, so too close will over do it, it also allows better atomisation, so it gives the gun a chance to work

@patrickpeterman8736 Год назад

Hello Pete, Patrick here; hope I,m not wearing out my welcome- I cannot afford $800 " for an IWATA WS400 !! I have 2 IWATA 1.3--1.4 BELLARIA,S- IHAVE 2 WS400 TULIP TIP NOZZLES (CALLED H.E) high-efficiency i.3 and 1.4 one has 3 slits and 1 has 4 slits- I have an "LPH400=LV4 AIR CAP AND I also have a WBX400 AIR CAO -PLUS THE STANDARD Bellaria 1.3 &1.4 needles; is there Any Combination I mentioned to PRODUCE SIMILAR RESULTS TO THE WS400 GUN?? IT IS STRICTLY FOR CLEAR COATS ?? ANY ADVICE APPRECIATED thank you, PATRICK.P ps stay well !!

@peteshobbies5383 Год назад

Hi Patrick, the nearest you would get is the WBX cap and the 4 split nozzle, the Bellaria needle will fit as long as they are for a 1.3 or 1.4 tip, run it at 29psi and see how it goes

@patrickpeterman8736 Год назад

@@peteshobbies5383 THANK,S PETE

@peteshobbies5383 Год назад

Your welcome 👍