@@lisamareepritchard6375 That's why he said to his wife he married her because "he wanted to feel NORMAL"! That was his confession right there that he is into men not necessarily women!
Iyanla Asked her "with another Woman" and she responded "I don't know"....... She knows, and has ALWAYS known, that he is attracted to men. She kept quiet and dismissed it because she too is hiding her own secret. She sympathizes with him, which is why she stayed with him... Iyanla didn't stay long because she saw right through him. She knew that he is not going to tell the real reason and they both wasted her time.
If he truly is gay. Experiencing molestation as a child and then the brother blaming it on "how he is" is truely painful and probably the reason he can't be honest with himself.
Idk bout waist of time ... not all communication is fully verbal ... dude gay n he just didn’t verbally say... at the end of the day ... they all got something vital out it and tied the cored they finally cut
When he said he slept with another person instead of another woman I knew why it was so hard for him to tell the truth I hope they’re both feeling better and free.
God I miss this show so badly. She was soooooo good at this. I think he was promiscuous with men and Iyanla needs him to be honest with her, with his wife and w himself.
I think the wife knows it was men. I think she saw something for herself or he didn’t admit it but didn’t deny it either. I think it is a bigger slap in the face for others to know.
@@tinajackson6875 exactly…. I was just left feeling like the true story still was left unsaid. And until everything is out on table and spoken about out loud and in honesty .. there will be no healing and as they posted at the end of the episode …. The divorce will drag on and on and there won’t be a conclusion. That woman won’t be free to get therapy and move on to find a true relationship with someone who desires and respects her in all ways. And the husband will continue with his double life and his lies and his shame and guilt all just to protect this false picture of who he thinks he is supposed to be. I think Iyanla can only push people as far as they are willing to go. But it’s a real shame because they almost got to honest truth but I feel stopped short. And perhaps they did uncover everything with Iyanla but then decided they couldn’t/wouldn’t go public with it and declined to allow the whole truth to be part of the show … maybe trying to protect his pastoral position. Which is why the church is so messed up because there are all these people on power living double lives while preaching what is ‘moral’ to others and everyone knows it’s all a big sham.
@@meghanmisaliar no. It's all in the verbiage and tone. He uses the words "people" and "friends" which are a dead giveaway. He chooses those words very carefully versus using pronoun that of a woman... "she, her" or referring to them as women or terms for women specifically...vwey evasive when speaking around Thai entire situation. Then his emotions regarding the entire situation... His demeanor toward his wife. He interacts with her like a good buddy. No spark, no interest. Yea, his eye may turn for a drop dead gorgeous woman but for how long & because he's actually attracted or he knows he *supposed* to be. You can tell that he's a good manipulator, the soft speach is purposeful. It's meant to disarm. He's very calculated.
He’s beyond selfish. To request her friendship after telling her the last 20 years was a lie is insane he’s looking for absolution not real forgiveness
Yeah I really feel that he is still being selfish, using her as a shield for his misdeeds and who he really is. Like at the end they wrote he asked her to put her wedding rings back on etc etc like why is he sending these mixed messages as if they’re a normal couple when they’re clearly not?
i felt her rage when they had that conversation. men really do not take marriage or anything seriously. they will waste your life until you have nothing left & end it with “just friends” it was definitely more information that he was holding back.
he’s tried to fight against his sexuality with all these women and tbh i think he’s been with men. he’s cruel. he knew he never wanted her and chose to hurt her. I don’t fell bad for him.
I agree. Broken people love to see other innocent people feel crushing pain. He enjoyed leading her on and making her believe he could change and return home. He enjoyed building her up to let her down. And NO, he can't blame that behavior on being molested. He intentionally and deliberately did her dirty...... knowing she just wanted to be loved. That is EVIL.
The oldest one jaw actual flex when he lookec at his father talk and seeing his mother crying. The youngest one is going to need help later on. Jennifer should take time to enjoy her life and cut contact with him.
He’s a manipulator through and through. Told Iyanla what she wanted to hear then manipulated his wife into the same exact situation. Living apart, he doesn’t wear a ring, she has hers, not divorced. Scary guy.
Unhealed trauma almost always manifests itself as lack of sexual discipline and selfishness. And yes, it does usually break or cause great strife in a family FOR GENERATIONS.
It was the unsaid that said a lot, I was wondering how he ended up in ministry? Bc if you know the word, what kind of power did you have to execute it and help others. His priorities were wrong. Jen didn't want to come out of her nest. He was her stability and functioning in dysfunction.
@@kamariaspeaks haha...well, that's how this husband sounds. I guess he can go and apologize to his kids and tell them I never meant to marry 20 years ago and I'm sorry I had you ...
He Was Playing Crazy! Iyanla Knew The Truth When She Said " You Don't Have To Lose Your Dignity, You Just Have To Tell The Truth! The Truth Will Set You Free"!
20 years is a lot of time. Yes, I hear you!!!!!! I think Iyanla helped her to see that she played a big part in that 20 year Lie. Jennifer made excuses for 1+1 equalling 13. But, now Jennifer can take authentic control over her life. Tough lessons like this help us to gain DEEP wisdom and discernment. And Truth!
She said yes! And chose to stay even when her own intuition was screaming at her to get out! She bears some responsibility for those twenty wasted years!
When they talked face to face and he told her he didnt want to be married, if you ever been in a situation where you felt RAGE you will understand her whole aura. Her silence is so loud with rage.
She is still living a lie. My heart breaks for her. He has already told her that he does not want her as a wife, yet she does not have the strength to love her herself enough.
@Knizzle28 I think it can be assumed she was, and none of us would ever know. However, she was holding him accountable for owning why she was there and stating the problem.
David wants Jennifer to continue to be his beard. Jennifer wants to cling to her fairy tale belief that she is still in a marriage. Sorry Iyanla, nothing changed with the two of them.
Could you imagine your husband telling you the proposal was a practical joke and he didn't mean to get married after 20 YEARS OF MARRIAGE AND TWO KIDS?!?!? This man is the king of "waste my time". He is lucky she didn't slap the hell out of him.
I'm not buying it. No man breaks down like that over JUST "Corn". What TYPE of corn was it? Was it legal? Plus, there's also the elephant in the room that he may not just be into women, especially in light of what happened to him as a child
I completely agree. This man has done awful things. He spoke of hatred when speaking on his past trauma and he is very evasive. Idk his vibe is so dark to me he's crying but his eyes are not sad.
Right?! In the beginning, he said there was no bounds to what he would watch, that's what made me think. The way he was saying his life would be over...like, sir, Over basic 'corn' 🧐 and you're so right. It all felt manipulative to me. Bless his wife and kids for real.@@j.g.3719
Fear paralyzes people. Fear begets anger, begets guilt,begets fear, begets anger, begets guilt, over and over again. Geez! 20 years of this because of a joke?
I had forgotten how riveting these true life stories were. I think the demise of this show came when they started to bring on more reality tv “stars”. I think many were there for another “moment” and the paycheck.
I respect that iyanla wanted to encourage him to be honest rather than “out” him I love that she seeks to see people whole, prepared and with their dignity in tact makes for something truly transformational. I miss her but she has earned her beach lilo and cocktails for life!
Trama bonds has to be one of the worst things a person could go threw especially when you realize you’ve helped in doing so but your to hurt and scared to even address it 😢 give her guidance
Even though he could not confess his truth to his wife, I commend him for not perpetuating abuse on to his sons as some stories horribly turn out. I pray they all continue to get the healing they need to thrive and love self and one another.
But imagine how broken they must be, so a young lady is going to see the outer beauty and be totally unaware of what’s on the inside. Not saying they are terrible people, but people who grow up in broken homes tend to have toxic unhealthy relationships. Because hurt people, hurt people! I know! I grew up in a toxic environment.
I hope she did not be-friend him, this level of manipulation and lies is unconscionable, even though she knew deep down, the fact he wants her to be his friend after he played her for over 20 years… The kids are grown, the door would be closed 💯
The saddest thing to me is that he's a false shepherd... he's lying to himself about so many things! He should have just gone to work in a store or an office instead of standing behind a pulpit lying to the congregation. His poor wife.... and children.... 😞
They should remain close friends/coparents but they need to divorce. She deserves to find someone who will love her and be as devoted to her as she was to him for 20 years!
I think he doesnt want to admit there was illegality with what hes holding. He keeps saying his life is gonna he over, and i dont think it was sexuality, i think it was an underage situation
Exactly. How about "I did you wrong, and I hope you can forgive, not for me, but for yourself" .EDIT: "I was joking when I asked you to marry me". WOW.
DL DL DL…why would she still want him?! He is not a prize!!!He is a cautionary tail of what can happen when you don’t do your research and don’t follow your gut instinct!
He Broke Her Heart When He Admitted His TRUTH that He Never Wanted to Be Married, that Crushed 😭 Her!! They Have two Beautiful Sons!! I Hope they're Okay!!
This story is powerful...Iyanla good job tackling this story to bring clarity from that stubborn husband of Jennifer that probably would've never tell her his real truth...this is deep Lord have mercy.
Ashamed, Afraid and Loss. She experienced foster care, many express the same feelings through the foster process and displacement. She was young and my guess, seeking unconditional love that stays and doesn't abandoned her. He was sending mixed signals as a young confused man, not knowing how to navigate.
My heart goes out to wife...what Iyanla said at min 26 spoke to my soul. I cant help but to feel like he did all of that on purpose and hurt that woman for YEARS only to say now "lets be friends"
Looks like he is closeted and didn’t want the church or the world to know. He used her to cover up his mess. I feel bad for her but she knew all along she was holding on to something that wasn’t there. Beautiful children though.
I know she is hurting but hes telling her without telling her that he def is not interested in this marriage. We women have that gut instinct and red flags are going off and just like I have in the past she is ignoring them :(
God certainly WILL help you change but, he won't force you. If you don't want it for yourself....don't blame God! You do your part and he will do his. You have to love God more than the sinful life you're living.
Yes, you always have to make the first step. The word says resist the devil and he will flee.. to resist is to say no even when you want it so bad… I hope he finds his way back to the Lord though.
He asked her to keep the ring. That's not fair. He clearly hasn't addressed the fact he's afraid to lose his appearance as a straight male. He's still lying.
