J-7D In War Thunder : A Basic Review 

“Basic review” *does the most in depth review of the vehicle on RU-vid*

Something to keep in mind is that the PL-5Bs have a very short burn time, so opponents wont see the red missile Icon when they look behind them, they are also more flare resistant compared to the PL-7s. The PL-7 is basically the Magic1 so 1 Flare pop and they are gone.I personally prefere the PL-5Bs. Best distance to use them is around 3km, if u use the jet as a second line fighter to clean up opponents u will have a great time.

Lol at the arrows halfway through the vid

After watching the past few reviews and seeing the history section move about I really think it is fine going either at the front or at the back. This video proves that you can do it seamlessly either way. I fully encourage and support you doing it whichever way gives you the best results.

This plane either needs to go down in BR or receive historical missile loadouts, aka get PL8s

The fact that this is 11.0 while f-5e is 10.7 tells you something is wrong with J-7D br

One of my favourites, certainly over br'd. Engine power is effectively between the MF and SMT, and although the PL-5B's are stellar and can catch people off guard with how soon they stop burning, it doesn't really make it that much easier to fight the F-16's and MiG-29's The FM doesn't really become an issue until you go too slow, because that's where your comparatively weak engine for the br starts to show

This thing should be 10.7 or give it the pl5c or pl8

PL-5Bs are my favorite non-allaspect missiles. Fast and long range

Did brought it on the sale (I think its my 7th Mig-21), but till it gets a "fix" or a BR. change I'm gonna stick to the Shenyang (witch btw got an RWR recently) when I need a premium in air RB .

This is gonna be a good one!

I hope we get at least one more J-7 with more advanced systems and missiles

Id say i prefered the historical part to be the first in the video (it flowed better i think) but its too insignifcant to really bother me so id say stick with what works the best

This plane gets carried by its kit, and it's hard to justify this vs talismanning the J7E or F5E. I still do generally okay with it, but the flight performance and RWR compared to other jets become a pain to deal with at the higher 11.7-12.0 matches.

Gaijin has a TON of issues with Chinese jets that they refuse to address for some reason. Made up loadouts, equipment and weapons for a lot of them are just plain wrong. Is there a reason for this?

Been grinding this plane a lot to research China Air. Its not great but I love the Mig21 platform so it works for me

This is the best thing I ever saw.

Ahh I grinded around 85/80 percent of China air in this thing, learned top tier in it, currently at a 63 percent win rate which I think is not too shabby for a 11.0 mig21

Can you do a review on the F4U-7 in the French tree it has so many secondary weapons.

The full-Russian cockpit really annoys me too, I am not sure what Gaijin is up with these days.

How does the RWR perform in sim? Can it pick up PD signals?

Ah the Mig 21's. Easily my favorite planes to play. Expecially the R 13-300. None of the Russian ones have those wing rip or overheating issues though in my expeirance. I pretty much run the afterburner the entire match and pull 12-13G turns at 1200+. Odd the Chinese one has those issues.

Ever since, maybe 3 updates ago, all IR missile can turn into all aspect missiles depending on target and situation. This means that with certain missiles you can launch them on a headon at extremely close range, and the PL5B turns out to really like to do this, pair this capability with its insane acceleration and by some reason insanely good proxy, you can use this missile to do the "funny headon" to a lot of targets, deserves a try.

I got it on a sale with the ztu tank. max kills in a arb battle was 6. pl-5b slaps with radar slaving

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I always felt this was halfway between a MiG21MF and the Bis. I wish they'd lower the BR to 10.7 to show that but someone would probably say the lack of needing a flare pod or gunpod is cause for that. It's a cool machine, just not 11.0 material.

The biggest issue I got with this one is that it's just easier to write what Gaijin get right about this jet rather than what they get wrong, even by current WT standard.

Getting the superb A-5C Fantan is probably a better choice.

idk why but i really enjoy the j-7d even tho i only have a 2k/dr

While I fly and enjoy the game a lot, I continue to have some really serious gripes about the low level play. I am aware that certain models of Mig21 that got breathed on could go 1300Kmh, but that would only be for a clean plane. In most cases its 1000, and certainly IIRC the early none breathed on models really had a flight limit sea level to 12000 ft of 595mph. Part of this issue is my own as I play at arcade level. But - none the less, too many planes modelled in game have too much acceleration, too little drag, and too high a speed - and a lack of what would really be a crazy fuel penalty if you want to afterburn everywhere. There are vast differences between a 600Knt Buccaneer at low altitude and other jets. The difference between Mach 0.92 and people pushing through Mach 1 is small, not large, and pushing on 'way' beyond Mach 1 should not be 'easy' - even for the highest tier planes. I would make certain ... excuses for F111, some Tornado models. Historically these had both a design, and an operative speed difference at low altitude. But no one is doing Mach two in the dirt, and the game would get a benefit if the fast jet boys had to climb out to get that large speed difference they get for very little penalty low down. I think slower entry low down has additional benefits too. It would ease back some of the silly furball fights, and bring back a bit of strat into play. The Mig23 may well have been fast enough to catch any western plane, bar maybe the F111. But the context here - and to show the silly place we are in, that Mig at low alt had a max at mach 1.14 (Clean F111s IIRC could do Mach 1.2 with spare thrust avail - but temp and other limits biting after that) Another example that people speak about is 'planes being ''subsonic''. So the Harrier suffers being a mach0.8 plane (or less) when loaded with ordanance, but drag is real, and bites hard on fast jets. Anyway - point is - things should be closer than they are. IMHO.

The J-7 III/C and variants aren't just "all weather upgrade" of J-7IIs, they were newly-built airframes with like 90% components being proprietary to it. Why? Because while J-7IIs are divergent variants of early soviet MiG-21F-13, the J-7IIIs are reverse-engineered MiG-21MF. It's like saying the F-18E/F is just an upgraded YF-17. AVIC teams visited Romanian in 1978, inspected their MiG-21MF, took measurements and bought some individual components for evaluation. They later imported 2 MiG-21MF airframes from Egypt and did what the soviets did to the Tu-4. That's why its the only J-7 not using Type30 / NR-30, and where PLAAF jets afterwards got their hands on the Type23 / Gsh-23. The "some changes to the engine" is a whole new ass reverse-engineered WP-13 / R-13-300 instead of the original WP-7 / R-11. J-7III wasn't "modified to house the radar" but the other way around: they picked the 21MF to reverse-engineer in the first place for its bigger nose space. As for the "inaccurate performance" of the radar ingame, I don't see how an accurate one will be fundamentally different. The JL-7 radar is based off Type317 which itself was based off F-105's R-14A. The JL-7 is so infamous for its unreliability that Pakistan would rather only instal radar gunsights on their F-7Ps than the JL-7. The JL-7A is mainly there to improve the reliability by simplifying old electronics with more modern integrated circuits (also giving it radar slaving capabilities, which we do get ingame). If anything, the most inaccurate thing is J-7D should get PL-8

Me : see the title, then try to find upload dated😂

Sadly, it's kinda just a worse plane than the J-7E in the tech tree, at the same BR. There's no reason to suffer with it unless you REALLY prefer the PL-7, which is arguably worse than the PL-5B in many scenarios.

But is it worse than the f4j uk?

basically just a mig21bis with 4 PL7s instead of 6 R60Ms, might actually be good if the 11.0 matchmaker wasn't so bad. also I hate that the current J7 is basically made up by gaijin, really doesn't help the "china just copies military tech" stereotype.

You'd think the higher alphabet means better ver, but infact its weaker/side grade.

Nothing is worth 70 bucks in this godless game. Especially not a powercrept copy paste jet. Thanks for another great review^^

btw J-7D got most broken rear aspect missiles in the game (pl-5b). With it's a bit lower BR (11.0 instead of 11.3 of most top tier jets) it become on of the most simple and fun top tier premium jets (imho)

Short review: Get the A-5C

I hate the small maps at top tier. But then I don’t like huge fur balls.

Pl5b = free kill

It is a MIG-21 with fake Chinese super missiles. you SAY those can be flared off, but I have used them and in your videos you can see people use 2-3 flares and you still get the kill.

Who tf picks pl7s over pl5s

1 min ago damn