It’s a shame that as black people we allow our own brands to become played out and obsolete. I rocked FUBU back in the day and they had some great gear. In my opinion, Sean John, Karl Kani and FUBU are 3 brands that could and should still be killing the game! I’ll never forget a young dude told me that if Brand Jordan ever left Nike he would not love Air Jordans the same. I was shocked! 😯 I said to dude.. suppose the quality was exactly the same but Jordan just went independent of Nike and he said that he would bail on the brand. That’s when I knew that Black people would never succeed like other groups. We lack pride and respect for our own business! Meanwhile, I can rock the same Lacoste and Polo shirts that I rocked back in 1982 and still be considered fly! Damn shame 😡🤬😒
and brands are brands get that right off tops your paying for the brand name. quality is a whole other story nothing beats a plain shirt and jeans and nike af1s what they say clothes dont make the player...
@@wiifii5.071 yes! That’s my point! If I wear FUBU now I’d be a laughing stock in the hood but not if I wear Polo or Lacoste which I was wearing 40 years ago. That’s my point.
Most of what u saying come from black owners chasing trends.. polo kept it polo, fubu started doing too much, going crazy with colors and large logos.. if you go crazy you gotta put quality and a large price tag on it
Absolutely, but lets not miss the point he made on overcompensation. You can be versed in cashflow, but still have holes in your beliefs system which will override better decisions.
TRUST AND BELIEVE THIS BROTHER IS KEEPING 100%. THESE BROTHERS WERE WAY AHEAD OF THERE TIME!!! MY BROTHER CLEON WILSON WORKED FOR THESE DUDES DOING PROMOTION!!! SO I SAW THE SUCCESS FIRST HAND. ITS WAS DEFINITELY OVERWHELMING.
I'm so happy he brought up that Fubu album. I had that album just for "Fatty Girl" that song use to slap crazy. Luda, Keith Murray, LL and Track master. Mr. Cheeks was on there too.."Lights, Camera, Action".
I met all these guys at magic convention. I had the biggest black owned store in Arizona. 3 mall locations. Cool dudes. But I was amazed on how many so called black companies actually where in distribution deals with china. The problem with that is when china get tired of fronting the manufacturing for your company you need to have the capital to do your own. Which 99 % of the black brands didn't. Too much popping bottles.. This happened to all the brands in the 90's and in 2000s. Needed to invest in the production side of things. Still happens to this day..
I lived in Phoenix in the late 90's till mid '00's. What were your stores named? I probably was a customer. Especially if you were in Metro Center or Arizona Mills. I used to go to Magic too but never met these cats. Met Karl Kani and Maurice Malone tho. The good old days. 💯
Thanks. Love your response. I'm like Damon Dash in my thinking, do it our way, control it our way, intellectual property. Most of our folks just don't comprehend that, they're buy chilling and looking big.
Facts… they were stuck on that big baggy look when the style changed into a more fitted and clean look. I had a bunch of Fubu gear, even the boots. I heard they was selling out in Japan and some other countries though so they was still eating when the American crowd stopped buying Fubu.
Bro that's the thing with a lot of the urban clothing companies from cross colors Karl Kani rocawear phat farm all those companies die out Bec they never evolve...I remember they came out with some suits in the early 2000s that were really nice way better than that Steve Harvey shit...
@@wayofthegun6224 facts... They became the textbook for how not to move with an urban brand. That logo is a bad idea... Diddy learnt better. Sean John could've easily been Bad Boy Gear, but the name and signature logo screamed on the edge of fashion that wasn't limited to the urban market
@@PancakeDiaries they wasn't Tommy Hilfiger and Polo do the same thing but they didn't do it on every damn shirt or jacket...also the fact that blk urban clothing companies copied everything each other was doing didn't help...look at how phat farm had a great simple look when it came out but then Russel nut 🥜 hugging asian put that Asian graffiti artist in charge of design and they started pumping out straight trash...all those companies should still be around today if they only looked at the game differently... That Marc echo kid still pumping out clothes for Ross, Burlington coat factory, forman Mills and half of Mexico and south america...
The reason these urban clothing lines died was because the clothes did not evolve at all and the public's tasted changed. Slim pants and skinny jeans became the norm.
That is one component. Another is urban companies didn’t invest in their manufacturing and struggled with supply and demand. To offset this when demand started falling off they took their wares to lower end companies and off loaded them decreasing brand value.
FUBU, Karl Kani, Cross Colours, Sean John among others died off or were hemorrhaging long before skinny jeans and slim fitted tight shit became the norm.... Some like Cross Colours were practically dead before 96'.. Like homie said, the main issue was the manufacturing/production aspect, which had to be outsourced to low wage countries(since the manufacturing industry in the U.S kept shrinking and losing out to cheap low wage 3rd world countries.. Affecting the supply chain(you have to expend major figures to get stuff manufactured wholesale on the other side of the world)... This ties into globalization as well, and the loss of manufacturing jobs in the U.S, being shipped to Latin America and southeast asia, but these urban clothing companies felt the pinch much harder because they didn't have the proper economic structuring to weather that storm..... Black businesses (and minority owned in general) will always feel the pinch the hardest because they dont have the financial resources to withstand or endure changing times
Yeah I was a teenager where you had Fubu, Phat Farm, Sean John etc. It was crazy because the Hip Hop culture was slowly transitioning into prep then into European styles. The entertainers wanted their clothes like their card (foreign). They didn't want to look like the masses, but the masses want to look like the masses.
Kudos to J . Alexander Martin, you and the entire FUBU family, you all opened up door's, made Quality clothing. LL Cool J. issued a Statement, very detailed, explained and in layman's terms. Anyone that reads what he wrote won't have another question, when it's comes to Black and Brown People's contribution!!! Big Respect to All of the People who Paved the way, that reach back and grabbed somebody else up with them, that made a way, so that other's, so that Platforms, Blogger's, the Media, etc can eat Today and much Love to Everyone who spent time being an Advocate and doing Grassroots work; Paid, Passion, Called or Volunteer. You did your Part. Thank YOU 💯🎯🦋.
Fubu was the shit on a whole different level. Im from Europe and the most expensive gear out would be Fubu denim suits,Clench tracksuits and if you had a leather jeff hammy or avirex pfff you was a baller for sure.
Dam u jus put me up on game. I did not kno DGK wuz owned by a black man. And a black skateboarder at that. That's ill. Its never been my favorite brand but I gota couple nice DGK pieces in my closet
Listening to J talk here, 2 words came to mind and no joke, "Money Therapy". I feel it is a serious thing that people need. I personally added money affirmations to my personal custom audio subliminal to help me develop a mature mindset for money. I want to spend my first mill I get maturely as possible. Now I am considering creating a audio subliminal to help people develop a mature financial mindset. Hmmm...
I laughed when jay-z dame , diddy and master p first came out with clothing lines .. fubu was huge and it didnt seem like anyone could possibly compete wit them. FUBU was everywhere.
I think the Culture changed! All the OG rappers and Hip hop artists got older, started families, moved away from Rap as their main source and went into businesses, movies, TV, and the new young generation coming up behind didnt jump onto the fashion which everyone wore in the late 90s and early 2000, there was a transition period around 2004 to 2008 where fashion was changing... hip hop changed, street wear changed the Music charts affect the fashion, the movies affect fashion.. so FUBU is still a famous label no doubt and arent going anywhere. they burst onto the scene! and took the world by storm. They had their PEAK it wont come back to how it was in 98 to 2003. that 5 years is time in a bottle, it was lightning in a bottle. it was a cultural time and FUBU was the clothes of that era. no question This man and his team built an empire and 30+ years its still here going strong. Respect!
This dude is full of it saying FUBU did $350M for 10-12 years. 98'-'02 was it. '02 with the last Harlem Globetrotters gear. They did their thing tho. The Ali stuff was dope, had some of the Fat Albert Platinum FUBU too. Leather football jerseys and velour tracksuits around '99. Shit was cool back in the day. Wasn't cheap either.
It just wasn’t cool anymore. Nobody has control over something like that. Trends change all the time. Seven years ago it was Yeezy, but that too will eventually pass. And right now everybody is surely gunning for the next big brand.
I'm surprised that he said that Fubu was at its peak in 2002-2003. From what I remember, FUBU had already fallen off by then. Fubu was poppin from what I remember in 98-99-2000.
In America, but since there are many countries success overseas was probably way crazier. Think of any American-act going over seas mostly instantly successful even are trash movies like water world did huge worldwide numbers but considered a flop in USA
Avirex was my favorite back in the days. Enyce was fly too, Akademiks was cool too but their jeans was like wearing cardboard. The good ole days lol now you gotta spend 3 bands on a outfit to be considered fly. No way I’m spending 800 on jeans and 500 on a shirt. I used to spend every dollar I had on clothes, won best dressed in high school but as I got older I realized I was just doing it to compete with other people. As long as your clean and wear some decent clothes it doesn’t make a difference. I never heard a girl say, ohh no he’s wearing Nike I’m all set with him lol. If a girls talks to you because of your clothes, you don’t want her.
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All facts. Those were the good old days. The days when swagger was in full affect. You could rock a pair of Tim's and One's with all these clothing brands and be balling.
I remember 7th grade I only had bout 60$ and wanted new shoes man. The fubu shoes look similar as hell to the 5s..like literally the same silhouette except the logos .. I bought that shit and my mama told me mfs at school would prolly trip on me , bc that’s back when skinny jeans were becoming popular and rappers already was dissing mfs was wearing Jordan’s in they songs , shoe game was changing😂😂😂long story short I wore em to school and they fuckin teased me until we went to 9th grade 😂😂😂shoutout this dude cus I’ll never forget that shit . All my homies had something to say . Literally every homie 😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭
FUBU guys Yomi Martin (Nelly's Cousin from Apple Bottoms) Jay-Z & Beyonce Wiz Khalifa These are the MOST DOWN TO EARTH/BALANCED people I met in all of my times in the entertainment industry.
I met Nelly WAY back in the day when I was working for The Source Magazine at their Awards show in Miami, FL. He was REALLY "down to earth" to me... And also Chad Hugo of The Neptunes.
This $350 is gross profit I'm assuming, or maybe how much the merchandise sold for retail. It's a big difference and I'm curious but maybe if that was mentioned then Vlad would have to bring up one of his stories.
I was off of it by 99, but people DEFINITELY was buying it in 2003. It just wasn't considered "cool". I worked at the mall then. That time period was when the Fat Albert line dropped, followed by the Ali collection.
@@Mercury804Fat Albert and Ali were early '01. The Harlem Globetrotters dropped in '02! to go with the jersey theme that was blowing up but didn't catch on. By fall '02 FUBU was played in the US.
I think there are 4 co-founders altogether. The Shark Tank guy (Daymond John) started FUBU, but the 3 other guys joined afterwards and were always considered as co-founders.