J. Krishnamurti - Ojai 1984 - Public Talk 4 - Is love part of consciousness?

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J. Krishnamurti - Ojai 1984 - Public Talk 4 - Is love part of consciousness?
Summary:
What is it to be free? What is freedom that is not 'from' something and not a reaction?
Is freedom possible when thought is operating all the time?
What is the relationship between desire and thought? Is thought driven by desire?
What is beauty? When do you perceive the sense of immensity and the truth of beauty?
Can you look at something with all your senses fully alive, alert? When there is total attention, is there a self?
Is love in the realm of thought? To understand the depth, greatness, flame of love, can jealousy, ambition, and violence end, not tomorrow but now?
What is religion?
Why is it necessary to meditate at all?
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@regenagvocate 3 года назад

I just don't understand how anyone can say anything negative about what K used his life for. If this quality of perspective were valued amongst all humans, it would surely be a different world. the fact that that is not obvious to some people is disappointing to say the least.

@kalapitrivedi6966 3 года назад

Simple words!! Crystal clear explanations 🙏

@zoltanfazakas3152 3 года назад

@@jyotinoname2577 lp0

@noone5461 3 года назад

just try what our friend says.observe your thoughts every single one for several hours or until the thoughts will come to the end and you will see everything what he was talking about, just try it - thats is the only one message he had been trying to deliver to us to humanity. Please try it

@SRIKANTH-bq5zy Год назад

im trying it and i get sleep in the middle.what to do ?

@akashdeep-xc6nc Год назад

Yes when mind still it start sleeping.

@noone5461 Год назад

@@SRIKANTH-bq5zy keep Trying, my brain sometimes does it too, when it’s attached to the thoughts and when it starts to observe the thoughts it’s kinda trying to go sleep, you can find this moments, sometimes it keep trying to do something and before attention gets stronger to recognise thoughts with out to be identified with them it can take some time. But remember no one can explain how to do it, it’s your job, it’s your discovery. I would just suggest to try to listen Krishnamurti with out any effort to understand anything, you can listen any other person it doesn’t really matter who you listen to, what really matter is the listening you just need to pay attention to the sound with out any effort sooner or letter you will start noticing that you don’t have to do anything to understand. More you are not doing more energy-more attention it gains. Observation sob Very interesting thing. If want to find out you just try to observer thoughts with out effort to achieve anything the best attitude is I don’t know how to meditate and I don’t know what it gives me, I’m just interested in observation it’s self because I like to study my brain and how it works, anyway it’s all words, like I’ve said it’s only you who can figure it out, more hours you “try”-not doing anything but observer the thoughts more attention the brain will gain, but since our brain is used to do anything it will resist and it’ll keep on trying to achieve anything.

@sabvrao Год назад

@@SRIKANTH-bq5zy get good sleep in the night before ? Maybe good to rule out sleep deprivation … … also - do you sit while observing thoughts ?

@hugojj101 Год назад

@@sabvrao You don't need to sit. Observing your thoughts won't lead you to meditation. If you try to observe your thoughts, all you'll be thinking is "where are my thoughts?" haha. You see? It's weird. To be capable of meditation. You need to focus on TRULY UNDERSTANDING that "fear causes desire for another moment filled with something else other than what your experience is right now and this is why you think". When you truly understand this and realise that the thoughts are fear themselves. The thoughts just stop. You don't want to think anymore unless you have to or want to for fun. For example, maybe you're meditating peacefully because you don't think much anymore and then you get hungry and in pops the thought "I maybe should eat something". Hope this helped.

@karenkurdijinian2069 3 года назад

Beautiful .This soul radiates such a powerful loving energy ,to construct consciousness ..as simple as 2 friends having conversation ...and that simple , natural way of harmonic , sensitive flow of energy wave form handing the information to the humans . His soul is so sensitive and rich in colors having that inner feeling of acknowledging and experiencing the thinner structures of quantum world ...and the mechanism of opening the inner beauty resonance of love sensitivity , the connection to bring out on the observation of understanding what is True Love ....💝🙏🌻🌻🌻🌻🌻

@SeductionSaga 2 года назад

if you are aware you'll do it what is needed at that moment therefore there is no conflict

@endergoran 3 года назад

There is always a greater understanding while I'm listening him. Even if I listen the same sentence. It's not about the words of him, İt's me, I'm changing while the process of listening. He is always talking about "there is no method or guru" but while I'm listening him again an again a great admiration appears. I'm not saying he was a guru but while I want to talk or think about him my admiration says "What a method to teach of unteachable!"

@AmitKumar-uu4ni 3 года назад

Careful.......

@Cuisinenomade1 3 года назад

And the contradiction or the FACT, as Krishnamurti says, that someone that "says" there are no gurus or methods, yet Krishnamurti sits in front of other men and "speaks" like a "guru" (and let alone that certainly also make a good deal of money...) hahahaha it is the Lord laughing at the face of the blind! hahahaha It is amazing, not krishnamurti alone the the Master of krishnamurti altogether! perhaps the answer is in the "unseen"...

@regenagvocate 3 года назад

@@Cuisinenomade1 K was not exploitative. Whatever vices he had, were surely meager when compared to 99% of other speakers in similar positions as him. The spread of these kinds of shallow critiques are not helpful to the human condition

@349ams 3 года назад

@@Cuisinenomade1 Do not mock a man as tall as Krishnamurti! If you cannot understand what he is talking, maintain Silence. Any criticism of wise people reflects ignorance on ones part.

@sureshgaikwad5004 2 года назад

@@regenagvocate We are not capable of comparing one speaker with another.They are complete at their times.

@souravdas-zp1kt 2 года назад

If you don't do something now, it will continue tomorrow

@sureshgaikwad5004 2 года назад

You are right. Simple but powerful sentence.

@MassMultiplayer Год назад

one of the strongest communicator of "observing the ego" , to notice its mechanism, and "who am i" related to it

@cryptosurfer9289 3 года назад

Un uomo straordinario! Grazie grazie grazie per la condivisione 🙏❤️

@daladameditations 2 месяца назад

Thank you thank you thank you 🙏🏻

@pavanprajapati5532 4 года назад

Blessed🌹🌹🙏

@seekersfinders8801 3 месяца назад

So simple so clear. For all the attention sapping evils of RU-vid .. these jk videos is redeeming RU-vid’s value to the species. At least it’s there for one who is ready to listen and move.

@ornellamiliciani7074 3 года назад

Beautifull🤸‍♀️❤️❤️🤸‍♀️❤️🤸‍♀️❤️🤸‍♀️❤️

@jixie_93 5 месяцев назад

"...that is beauty...that is love..." ❤

@zhizhi9138 3 года назад

Best.

@karenkurdijinian2069 3 года назад

I think Humanity is hungry for Love ....😔....🥰🙏🌻🌻🌻🌻🌻

@zhizhi9138 3 года назад

Knowledge

@kaykaur8318 3 года назад

Humanity hungry for Love, means hungry to know they real self (Consciousness)

@brianaspden7000 4 месяца назад

The hand of love.

@brankabozic1991 5 лет назад

V govoru Krishnamurti povzame vse kar potrebuje človek uvideti v življenju. Še več skozi sodelovanje v razmišljanju spoznamo, da nam je hrepenenje najbolj skritih kotičkov srca dano v naročje kot darilo. Ne vem, če sem vredna tega, za tako malo mi je dano tako veliko. HVALA.

@cmanjularao9833 4 года назад

K....❤

@chinnojeerao2756 Год назад

This world needs many more JK's to survive. If not. Nobody can save it.

@ricardoribeiro1213 3 года назад

♥️🙏

@leoghamari9899 Год назад

❤❤❤

@user-lf8mt7qq8e 7 месяцев назад

🙏❤️

@preethikrao 2 года назад

🙏🙏🙏

@azurebttrfly Год назад

🦋

@pearljung5190 2 месяца назад

Jk murti is the best version of authenticity of spiritual realm.he is the real guru beyond ❤❤❤

@alexandreedgar4773 Год назад

If all there is is love, who would be there to witness it? If all there was was consciousness, who would want to witness himself alone? Who would want to gaze at a mirror for eternity, unless that mirror was two-way and the reflection is that of a soulmate? The two secretly are one. Can it be that love and consciousness are polarities of the same perennial, unspoken miracle: that there is something rather than nothing? The two secretly are one. This something is nothing more than the expression of love. What is prior to consciousness? Love. The paradox is that consciousness and love need each other to coexist in eternity but somehow love is prior to consciousness.

@elvuelodelaguila.5532 3 года назад

🥰🥰🥰🥰🥰🥰🥰🥰🥰🥰🥰🥰

@steftharula 3 года назад

🙏🏽🙏🏽🙏🏽

@oscarinterprises 3 года назад

1:07:46

@karmukgupta6338 Год назад

Desire sexual energy source of life. We live to reproduce, survive to reproduce, every drive in us is based from this sexual energy

@Per_se 9 месяцев назад

Beauty exist only when the self the me the persona are not…. Not sure to understand I thought the idea was the self mattered…

@healthpediashop8536 3 года назад

1:04:35 kenyataan diluar kenyataan di dalam ilusi realita atau kebenaran apa adanya bukan kebenaran tp pengamatan apa adanya mendatangkan kebenaran kenyataan dan kebenaran dua hal yg berbeda

@healthpediashop8536 3 года назад

1:14:50 lihat rasakan sebenarnya pikiran terbatas....bukan imajinasinya , bukan ide untuk mengakhiri ...tapi nyatanya lihat sendiri

@healthpediashop8536 3 года назад

si pengontrol, kehendak ingin agar pikiran/waktu berhenti jg bagian pemikiran 1:16:45

@healthpediashop8536 3 года назад

27:50 keinginan?

@healthpediashop8536 3 года назад

43:24 sensasi ini diambil alih oleh pikiran ....diberi bentuk atau gambar

@healthpediashop8536 3 года назад

44:20 ketika pikiran mencipatkan gambar dari sensasi...keinginan muncul

@laureenvanessavaxelaire4887 2 года назад

Traduction en français svp

@Misslotusification Год назад

Il faut choisir sous-titres auto-généres.

@vigneshoff 2 года назад

Root meaning of word - Mantra - ru-vid.comUgkxalmmBo43PgDOdbFGAGcgWh5PEkqJ84Ip

@debbiejordan3955 Год назад

You have clarity or you don't

@Cuisinenomade1 3 года назад

When speaking, always goes back to "problems", "misery", "poverty"..., seems as if Krishnamurti could not avoid to see corruption of what IS and at the same time talks about FREEDOM, yet he speaks of "solving" problems, that is through the eyes of krishnamurti, I see, "problems" to be solved and NOT LESSONS to be LEARNED. Or which athlete stops in the middle of the race to "solve" the obstacles? hahaha the "problems" krishnamurti saw then are Now beginning to be revealed as what they are, obstacles, to to be fought, not to be resisted, not to be judged as "problems to be solved" but as OSTACLES TO BE OVERCOME! At the end of the day all krishnamurti does is mind gymnastics, other do other kinds of show, magic, fits of strength, music, etc. What krishnamurti does in public to be admired by other men can be done in the inner room, with nobody around and it is 1000 more challenging than listening to another man do what I do all the time, to those who I choose to... Be aware of false prophets who come in sheep clothing....

@regenagvocate 3 года назад

what value do you get out of projecting your discredit on his perspective? His dying words were "my life was a waste of time". If you think such a sentiment and melancholy comes from a place of vanity/hubris, you should analyze that a bit longer. Obstacles can't be overcome if you have people with no clarity of mind trying to solve the problems. The tragedy of humanity is that with every "solved" problem man has seemingly solved, he has created several new problems. I personally find K's teachings to inspire the greatest clarity I have thus far come across. But to each their own..

@yudk8418 3 года назад

The Words of Silence.... I like when the speaker mentioned that Our own judgments opinions and conclusions are so strong we are never free from them ...Selah💫💫

@83robertk32 3 года назад

Sir, could not you just put it has a question for investigation, rather than enforce your opinion?

@elvuelodelaguila.5532 2 года назад

K is pointing out to look , to observe and he is nor and never was a guru , only a brother who in companion has a dialogue if you are listening with all your heart, your mind and everything.

@elvuelodelaguila.5532 2 года назад

And this is not about challenging anything . !! That is basically american propaganda , challenge !