If a human being has composed such music, then I think that in the end everything will be well. Much Love and gratitude to the Bach Stiftung and to all the listeners of this channel!
Danke für die wunder- und gefühlvolle Aufführung meiner Lieblingskantate. Ich entdeckte das unglaublich Trostvolle an Bachs Musik, als ich in der tiefsten Hoffnungslosigkeit steckte. Nach einem schweren Autounfall war ich im Koma, muss damals gut geschlafen haben, denn nachdem ich aus dem Koma erwachte, habe ich drei Jahre lang überhaupt nicht mehr geschlafen. Drei Jahre pausenlosen Wachseins, drei Jahre ununterbrochenen Bewusstseins. Es war eine unvorstellbare Hölle. Damals entdeckte ich Bach neu, zunächst eine Einspielung der Goldberg-Variationen von Glenn Gould. Ich hörte sie immer wieder, mehrere Male täglich. Irgendwie beruhigte der Kontrapunkt meine rasenden Gedanken. Dann kam das Wohltemperierte Klavier hinzu, später die Passionen und Kantaten. Diese war die Erste, Ich nenne sie die "kleine Passion." Der Dialog der Seele mit dem Herrn, "du hasst mich", "Nein, ich liebe dich!" Dass sich Bachs großartige Musik mit Wahrheit paart, macht aus seinem musikalischen Lebenswerk eine kaum zu überbietende Wohltat für Menschen, die sich in der Moderne wie im Exil vorkommen.
Was wäre die Musik ohne Bach? Bach s Kantaten zu lauschen ist immer wieder ein Genuß, besonders,wenn sie so wunderbar dargebotenen werden, wie in diese Aufnahme.Vielen Dank🙋👑💕
My wife struggled with and finally died from bipolar disorder for 50 years of our marriage. I listened to Bach for hope and patience and often thought of the faceless millions of God's children who faced sickness and death and heartache and found hope in J.S. Bach. And he comforts us today. Thank you.
@@aurora60505 Same boat here, man. But daughter #3 age 38. Bach consoles, deeply and with substance. Schumann once said: Bach's long chorale prelude on Schmücke Dich, O liebe Seele restores to me any and all things that were ever taken from me. I've forgotten the bwv#, but it's part of the collection of "Great 18" (chorale preludes for organ). My faith (quasi-knowledge is that good folk like your 'main squeeze' and my Stefanie DID "adorn their souls with gladness," that is, died well. Another day you'll be standing there, and there she is right in front of you. Mark my words. Mark (Arizona)
Of course people may dye of bipolar disorder, quicker than of cancer. Is it a lack of imagination or of empathy? I lost a girl-friend at the age of 24 by suicide, another in her 30ies, in her bipolar phases she made love to anyone and got killed with a knife by a casual lover.
In una sua intervista, disse che decise di diventare cantante quando sentí la cantata BWV 21 eseguita da Herreweghe! Quindi dovrebbe conoscere abbastanza bene, penso!😉
Lieber Rudolf Lutz, und sehr liebes Ensemble, Chor und Solisten, was für eine wundervolle und bewunderwerte Interpretation dieser großen und so schönen, aussergewöhnlichen Bachkantate. Ich bin sehr erfreut und dankbar, ich kann das richtig genießen, danke! Das hebt die Seele in eine andere Ebene, wunderbar. 🌻💖🎼👌🕯
In this cantata Dorothee Mields, of course, is hors-categorie. But all performers are in top shape. This is the most deep, dark and profound (and in the end most joyful) performance of BWV 21 I know and the choice for Bach's first version (from Köthen) enchances the dramatic effect on the highest. This performance has become my favorite and made me realize that in this early work of Bach it is already all there: the St. Matthew Passion, the Easter Oratorio and the B Minor Mass . Thank you all so much!
In these dark times when most of us are not able to attend performances, I must let you know how uplifting it is to come across a video like this. It was truly a delight to hear this!
dear people, Usually the vocal soloists get the most attention, but I would like the instrumental solo-instrument can also be called by name, as here the oboist. he played so beautifully.
Dear Hans Hesseling, the name of the oboist is Andreas Helm. You can find the names of all players via the link to Bachipedia mentioned above: www.bachipedia.org/werke/bwv-21-ich-hatte-viel-bekuemmernis/
@@brunogsilvestri Ours is just one of various performance options. We might have done it differently in another context, but we think Dorothee Mields does a wonderful job here.
@@Bachstiftung I agree. She did a wonderful job. Her voice was sweet and clear. Every "difference" brings new colors, new combinations of musical ideas, new visions into sight. She really put her heart into this performance.
Bach and Mields - incomparable individually… incomparable together…!!! Thank you, Maestro Lutz and your elite company of instrumentalists and vocalists, for delighting and exalting us with your incomparable performances!
A most interesting cantata. Some elements seem awfully reminiscent of Aus der Tiefen while others seem consistent with stylistic elements picked up in Weimar. I’ll have to read up on this cantata. I love getting to hear some of the voices in the choir on their own. Some beautiful voices there. Thanks so much for sharing your talents with us from the U.S.
And Bach's evolutionary process(es) beginning to end never stop forming, pretty slowly, new constellations of "everything" .. think the Science of Physics. Listen to "541" as we organists call it among ourselves. By Walcha if you do a little research here on YT. For clarity. Several musicologists, independently, have seen Bach reprising the theme of the finale here into the fugue (G Major!😁) of 541. And why not?
@@davidswan3071 Got just 1 more for ya man. Here on YT enter århus mendelssohn overture to saint paul.' Be sure to watch the vid. Literally: spring in step. Felix was Bach's diehard promoter. Take my word for it that this do or die dedication to "bigger than he," namely JS Bach is the main cause of Mendelssohn's WAY too early death. Mission accompliahed tho! Human goodness does in deed exist. Duh... (NOT) in this year of 2021.
This is the best performance I have ever heard of Cantata 21. Thanks for this living beauty! And thanks dear Bach, you are the absolute top of European culture.
Unendlich trostvoll - was für eine geniale Textausdeutung!! Dabei ein musikalisches Meisterwerk und ebenfalls meisterhaft vorgetragen. Wahrhaft ein Werk "per ogni tempore", wie Bach selbst es überschreibt.
When Mozart died, Saint Peter welcomed him to Heaven and took him to meet God. As they slowly made their way, Mozart was thrilled to hear the heavenly sounds of what he thought was the most beautiful music he'd ever heard. It was Heaven's choir and orchestra. Thinking this, he met God and God said unto him: "Oh, Mozart! I am very pleased you're here. You will be in charge of the ensemble." And Mozart, a bit confused, responded: "I would be most honored for this position. But, do I deserve it? I mean, shouldn't Bach be the capellmeister?" And God looked at him and said: "I'm Bach."
Beatiful interpretation and a so beatiful cantata. Bach so near, together to God. Pablo Délano Thayer, classical composer from Chile, South América. "!¡Congratuletions!
This is an unusual cantata but a favorite of mine because of its uniqueness. It starts off so subdued and ends very exuberant with trumpets and drums. The counterpoint is without parallel. Bach's music is miraculous.
At the time of writing my little review of this performance, I have some distress that some poor minded people have given these most excellent performers of this work the thumbs down. I find this incomprehensible. Personally , I have been moved and also delighted by what I have witnessed and listened to. Yet again, I am uplifted that such youthful performers are giving their all to Bach's work and my heart is hopeful that in years to come, these works will continue to uplift the lives of generations still to come. Thank you.
Bach has been doing this for over 300 years! Ever since the "rediscovery" of his music by Mendelsohnn & Beethoven. ALL composers INCLUDING Mozart were inspired & continue to be by his music! What an irony that the people of Leipzig during his lifetime didn't realize WHO they had in their midst.
don`t overestimate the amount of thought that was put in people giving thumbs down (or up, for that matter!). I never base my apprecition on previous placed thumbs. I know good music when i hear it :)
Extraordinaria cantata, extraordinaria y sublime interpretación. NO tengo palabras para expresar la tristeza profunda aceptada se puede experimentar y finalmente la consolación desbordante nos invitan a participar. Infinitas gracias. Úrsula Werren
Ascolto spesso questa sublime cantata per il suo bellissimo primo motivo, che mi immerge in un raccoglimento interiore profondo. Ma al centro dell'opera il chorus 6 è per me un gioiello, una pietra preziosa incastonata, dove si trovano forza e tenerezza armonizzate alla perfezione.
The last movement is actually at 36:38. The original score marks the fugal entries as solos, for good reason: it makes the entries as well as the melismatic countersubject more distinct, and produces a pleasing contrast for the entry of the choir.
Erstaunlich! Innerhalb von eimem Zeitgeist, wo nichts mehr uns erstaunen kann. Tausend Dank! Da die bloße Sprache zur wahren Steigerung des Gefühls--kitschfrei--nicht mehr fãhig ist.
Suono l'organo in una piccola parrocchia di Roma e voi, umili e perfetti interpreti del grande Bach, ogni sera riempite il mio cuore, perché ogni domenica possa aggiungere almeno una piccola emozione, rubata ai deliziosi Bachstiftung.
3:46 chorsatz Ich hatte viel Bekümmernis 24:32. duetto Komm, mein Jesu Sopran & Bass 28:40 choralsatz Sei nun wieder zufrieden - Was helfen uns die schweren Sorgen 33:30 aria sopran Erfreue Dich, Seele, erfreue dich, Herze. CELLO 36:40 chorus Das Lamm, das erwürget ist TROMPETEN
An utterly beautiful piece beautiflly performed, especially the S/B duet. During all the solos by Miealds, the meditative significance of the words seem to capture the focus of many members of the chor and instrumentalists. Perhaps they fully understand the deep meanings or just sense their significance. Either way, a very sensitive performance.
The "21st" is certainly one of Dear Bach's most important and wonderful cantatas. It's length, richness of orchestration, grandeur of scale and affect, and emotional expansiveness, easily puts it in the category of the Easter and Ascension Oratorios. Our Great Master Bach lavished so much Tender Loving Care on the text as well as the music that we stand in speechless awe.... Splendid performances - and what a great JOY! Many thanks to everyone! 👍👏❤️
I am so glad you love Bach as much as I do, and this splendid performance! But "Cantata 21" is not "his 21st". The numbers in the Bach catalogue are not chronological in Bach's life, but , the case of the cantatas, numbers assigned by the Bachgesellschaft in the 19th century as they incrementally published their now classic (if antiquated edition), i.e., ##1-10 were the ones people wanted to see published most/first. As the Bach catalog numbers (BWV) are the same, for cantatas, "Cantata, Ich hatte viel Bekümmernis, BWV 21" is how it is usually stated, or "Cantata 21". In the case of Beethoven symphonies, "Beethoven's 5th" really is the fifth one he wrote and published. Mozart's Köchel numbers are chronological, too, but not Bach BWV's. BWV 21, believe it or not, is fairly early, but so is BWV 150 (Nach dir, Herr, verlanget mich). Bach did not number, or even publish, his cantatas.
Magnifique ! Tempi lents un peu déroutants au début (ce n'est pas ce que j'avais dans l'oreille), mais finalement pertinents. Prestations splendides des solistes, le chœur et les instrumentistes ne sont pas en reste... Merci.
Personnellement, la Bachstiftung de M. Lutz m'impressione depuis toujours par l'enthousiasme de *toute* la formation, la qualité des artistes et de la direction d'orchestre. L'ambition avouée d'enregistrer tout le corpus des cantates est sûrement à sa portée : les enregistrements effectués à ce jour sont d'une grande qualité !
Comme l'opéra, les oratorios et les Passions, la cantate doit atteindre un équilibre entre la dramatisation (le jeu) et la musicalité (le chant, y compris celui de chaque instrument). C'est le cas ici, en particulier dans l'air de soprano, si attentif à la fois aux inflexions du texte et à celles de la mélodie.
Herrliche Musik, und auch gebührend herrlich dargeboten, im Gegensatz zur Aufnahme Karl Richters... Aber ist nicht die ein oder andere Partie von Frau Mields für den Tenor vorgesehen?
Le (un!) fruit de cette fameuse Révolution Tranquille (toute quebécoise). Une nation +/- vivant au Moyen Age accède d'un coup magistral à la modernité. Moi, Etatsunien Mark, n'arrive toujours pas à sonder comment ça s'est produit. La puissance innée de la langue française? J'en sais rien. Ce dont je suis sur c'est que vous autres Québécois m'ont initié. Pendant deux année où je jouais 'le missionnaire" le mieux que je pouvais. Je ne pourrai à tout jamais exprimer ma reconaissance pour ce bien de tous biens m'étant survenus dans cette vallée de larmes (parfois), appelée *Terre*. Me reste qu'à te dire, ami instantané grâce à la *québécité* : reçois de ma part une main pleine de meilleurs voeux. Mark (Arizona)
I love Dorothée Mields, her performances are always of the highest quality and here she is particularly inspired and inspiring. I would have loved to hear more complicity from Mr Kooj's part in the duett especially when she is "proposing" all the time. Lovely anyway.
I'll never forget the first time I heard the concluding choral fugue of this work. I wanted to grab all my musical friends and say, "Just listen to this!!" You'll notice that the text was used by Handel in the last chorus of Messiah (in English, of course: "Worthy is the Lamb that was slain.") Both Bach and Handel used the text in the same way, beginning with a chordal declamation and then proceeding with a fugue at the words "Blessing and honor, glory, and power . . . etc." ["Lob, und ehre, und preis, und gewalt . . ."] Someone, please correct my German. I can't find my dictionary right now--plus, spell check kept wanting to "correct" my German with English words!
@@lauterunvollkommenheit4344 Oh, yes, absolutely! I just put 4, 21 and 131 on the podium, then 82 and 106 and a bunch of some others (198, 201, 26, 27, 62...) immediately under those. Then the remaining cantatas (there are probably no more than 2-3 of them that don't have at least a movement which I find worth listening). :)
If I remember right, this was composed soon after the death of Bach's first wife. Some yahoo mocked Bach's use of "ich, ich, ich".... Be true to yourself, the right people will appreciate you. I"m not used to a soprano singing "Bäche von gesalznen Zähren" I am now. :)
La cantate est écrite pour trois trompettes, timbales, quatre trombones, hautbois, deux violons, alto et basse continue (avec basson et orgue explicitement indiqués), trois solistes (soprano, ténor, basse) et chœur à quatre voix.
Hi Mitch! Nice to coincidentally see you here, and this cantata is pretty new to me but it's already becoming one of my favourites! The permutation fugues in here (I think there are 3 of them!) are absolutely legendary!
@@Nooticus Hello there, Nooticus! This cantata has been a favorite of mine for many years; nothing tops it. I love all the fugal movements in this one!
@@MitchBoucherComposer Absolutely! The fugue at the end of the first part is a simple but excellent permutation fugue and the fugue at the end of the cantata has an extremely unique theme for Bach with a rising arpeggio!
@@lakkfatt2321 From wikipedia: 'Permutation fugue describes a type of composition (or technique of composition) in which elements of fugue and strict canon are combined.[39] Each voice enters in succession with the subject, each entry alternating between tonic and dominant, and each voice, having stated the initial subject, continues by stating two or more themes (or countersubjects), which must be conceived in correct invertible counterpoint.'
Jedes mal wenn ich diese Kantate höre, denke ich, wie konnte Bach so genau meine empfindungen wissen? Mein Jesus weisst es,und nicht meine, und schenkt uns Bach ! Danke für wunderbare Möglichkeit, es immer wieder anhören
Ahhh...die Deutschen. (Insgesamt 7 Jahre Kiel und n paar km von Ffm entfernt. Die Hesse omg zum Todlachen. Desto mehr Schleswiger Bauernvolk, you know, etwa# Wat de Bauer nüt kennt, dat fritt rr nich. Unverschämt? Jawohl! And keep it coming; ganz ernst...kein Hauch von Ironie, Herr Thomas Du unverschämter Kerl. PS Es lebe "Berliner Schnautze" samt der Currywurstbude untern S-Bahn Gleisen. Du wolltest Unverschämt liebenswerte, grossherzige Menschen? Mark (Arizona)
