J vs Ben: ULTIMATE Golden Trio Harry Potter TRIVIA Quiz 

If I saw right, they're making that into a movie... 😮😦😨🤢🤮

I don't really will mind if a movie comes out. I only hate the story and plotholes.

@@DhanushV2206 Exactly why money, time and recourses shouldn't be wasted on making that abomination into a movie.

@@rainynight02 That better be the loosest adaptation ever. If they're faithful to the book in any way it's going to be atrocious.

Same, OP

I think that quote is word-for-word. *checks Deathly Hallows copy* It's "You need to really mean it", but points for closeness.

yeah it was on Amycus Carrow, after McGonagall answered the question to let him into Ravenclaw Tower & he spat on her as a thank you! 😡

came to say this listened to it last night. He tried unsuccessfully in Order to use it on Bella, but she tells him he has to mean it. when it works on Amycus, he says that about Bellatrix.

Thought so, glad i remembered correctly

he also tries to use crucio on Snape when hes running past Hagrids hut in HBP and turns to disable Harry

I laughed out loud when he said it and I saw his math was wrong😂😂😂

Ironically, he was closer to the correct answer before he changed it to fix the maths, never change Jay :D

Well they use the math budget last month

I was thinking...but did you pay the math budget?

His name is Jonothan and they shorten it to J. Its J vs Ben not Jay vs Ben

yup, and that was in PoA. Ron's one was in PH, before they "became" the golden trio.

Yup and in the film Ron says "he's got a point you know" but book Ron defends Hermoine against Snape.

How have I never heard that explanation before?! I love it!!!

That´s another thing. - almost killed by a troll = - 5 points - out of bed late at night = - 50 points (each)

@@johnyshadow but it also is a huge matter of the teacher who caught them, how often they'd been in trouble, the underlying reasoning as to why it was bad (ex: why the wouldn't let him go to hogsmede when black was escaped)

​@@Osarah96wasn't it McGonagall both times, though? I don't get how "I went looking for the troll" was not worse than "oops running around to Hagrid's" I also still don't get why Hermione lied that she went looking for the troll instead of saying she was sick in the bathroom and they came to check on her...or just that they heard her scream so they came.

@@hicat808 oh I totally agree on her lying with "looking for the troll". I've always found it a lame thing to say where she had a literal world of options far more clever to cover them.

Yeah i know right!!!

Same!

My husband ..who is not a fanatic... got the questions right.

Yeah I’ve been pretty disappointed so far. And also the scripted feeling when the players clearly know the answer but have to discuss amongst themselves and reason to what they clearly immediately knew was the right answer.

Yes 👏

That's basically their podcast

@@ashgreninja7521 great now i have to listen to their podcasts. Thank god I just finished exams

@@bobisawesome99 oh exams i feel your pain

Same here! Team Ben all the way

Do you like Doctor Who?!!

Yes I second this! Make it a game. Give the book, what the scene is, and first two characters lines, see how much they get. And there could be hints about how a character is feeling or thinking about, etc. lol now I really wanna see this 😂

Cool theory! Sadly, though... even Voldemort seems to need to say the words. Also, the very fact it was deflected belies it being the Killing Curse. 'Regular' HP magic, not the 'purer', but more erratic old magic, offers absolutely no defenses against the Killing Curse. I used to think the Killing Curse needed the amp of the Elder Wand to destroy a Horcrux, due to Dumbledore stating the importance of Voldemort killing Harry personally. However, this would be inconsistent with what Hermione tells us about destroying Horcruxes. It's far more likely the reason Voldemort was the only 'good' pick is at that point the bond between the two was so strong there was no real telling what would happen; Harry might even survive. Hermione says a Horcrux must be destroyed beyond magical repair. The Killing Curse fits this bill. We also know the Killing Curse separates soul and body. Hermione says on a human, this doesn't damage the soul, but on a Horcrux, the soul is destroyed with the body. If Ron successfully cast a Killing Curse, Nagini should have been destroyed

@@JustFlemishMe you can cast it nonverbally. also where does it say it separates soul from body? i’m pretty sure that isn’t true/confirmed. i always saw it as killing someone without harming their body, so against a horcrux where you have to destroy the vessel i don’t think it would do anything

@Merijn Orsel Riiight, I forgot about the fox! Poor thing. I guess it's possible Belletrix did say the words, it just wasn't stated, but given that every other word seems to be written down, that's a weak argument, I'll admit. OK, so maybe someone as hateful as Bellatrix, or Voldemort, could pull it off. Yeah... Bellatrix put it best. Saying the words isn't enough. You have to put meaning behind it. You have to WANT it. Basically, more passionate and driven individuals have more powerful magic. Conversely, self-doubt, as we see with Ron and Neville, can cripple your magical prowess. Barty Crouch Jr. put it... a bit unfortunately, in my view, but absolutely it is possible to shout 'Avada Kedavra!', even as a wizard, and for nothing to happen. We do know Cruciatus can work imperfectly, so the Unforgiveable curses aren't binary - either works or doesn't. A partly successful Killing Curse would be less a nosebleed (physical damage) and more like Kronos' scythe in Percy Jackson, attacking the soul, as I see it. Of course, I could be wrong. Yeah, maybe that's what happened. Ron could have tried it in desperation and failed to do it right. *Chuckling briefly* Not that it matters, because it happened in the movies and not the books, leaving it non-canon, but still, it's fun getting into technicalities.

@@JustFlemishMe but it could be more effective against more vulnerable targets. So like a nonverbal one cast against a fox wouldn't really take much magical ability cuz it's just a fox vs. children with no actual murderous intent against a full-fledged wizard. Also, didnt voldemort kill harry's family nonverbally too? As for Voldy vs. Harry, he had to say it verbally because Harry was already powerful enough and was basically already his equal at that point (i mean the prophecy did say that he would create an equal and that one would kill the other). Also i think, that avada kedavra does destroy the vessel. A dead body is a broken vessel regardless of the damage in it. That's how the horcrux in Harry was destroyed. I think a powerful avada kedavra would kill the horcrux in nagini. Then again, nagini isn't just a random snake, it's also powerful and has magical abilities of her own. And i don't think Ron has a strong enough conviction to cast avada successfully even if he tried.

@@notmiruku29anymore Hmm. Well, again, we sadly don't know enough about how the Killing Curse works. We do know there's no defense against it, apart from love/sacrifice, part of the 'Old Magic' (which I presume means pre-wand, less controlled but more powerful than basically anything 'regular' magic has to offer). Wooden objects catch fire, and animals, Muggles and wizards all die from it immediately... if you have the strength to do it right. As acknowledged, there could be precedent for the Unforgivable Curses, including the Killing Curse, to have 'measures' of effect. However, apart from the Imperiatus, this seems more determined by the strength of the caster than the target. (Stone and metal are unaffected, but wood catches fire; to me, this is probably because wood is organic. However, plants aren't alive in the same way animals are (and humans are technically animals), and as such the Killing Curse, while it has effect, has a different effect.) Actually, if Voldemort did kill the parents non-verbally, that would be a great argument in favour of at least the sheer presence of magical power not helping any. James was a powerhouse in his own right, extremely gifted, an illegal Animagus who never got caught, someone who figured out these extremely complicated secrets at 15/16. And he and Lily were a real power couple; like the Longbottoms, celebrated Aurors specifically trained to fight Dark Wizards, they thrice defied Voldemort. James on his own without a wand obviously couldn't do much to hinder Voldemort, but together and armed, the pair apparently escaped him before, perhaps even fighting him off. So... Yeah. Voldemort killing them non-verbally says heaps about his own ability, and probably about his psychosis. Not so much aboutthe lack of power in the victim. My best guess as to why he loudly shouted the words is he just loves drama. I actually doubt very much that Voldemort knows any defense whatsoever against Avada Kedavra, and he certainly would be aware if his 'beloved' snake had something of the kind. But perhaps she had something innate, unbeknownst to him; we know after all she's actually a woman with a Blood Curse. The Blood Curse could provide some defense, I suppose, or more likely any number of things could have happened to give her a lasting protection. If enough of her own will was still present, perhaps she could hide it? However, that's irrelevant, since the far likelier answer is Ron just doesn't have what it takes to kill when it comes down to it (which speaks volumes to his good heart).

i believe it was Amycus not Alecto, but yes everything else u said is true. :)

Harry also used imperius on that death eater that was following “Bellatrix” (was it Yaxley?), making him go hide. I’m pretty sure he also tried to use the cruciatus curse on Snape at the end of HBP when he was chasing him (No Potter! No unforgivable curses for you!)

@@jennv2948 He tried indeed to use an unforgivable curse on Snape, but it was the cruciatus curse not the imperius curse.

@@JuanMataCFC You’re right, I forgot they stunned Alecto first and then Amycus arrived with Professor McMonagall

@@patrickdematosribeiro1845 Yes, that's what I meant!

Haha I know this one

Yeah, I always took it to mean that college kids don't care much. But also, it's not exactly hard to pass college. Getting a 4.0 GPA, yes. But "C's get degrees", and that's pretty easy for most college classes

Really? I always thought it meant “putting in a good solid effort” even if you are likely to fail

Definition of give it the old college try US, old-fashioned. : to use one's very best effort : to try very hard We can win this game if we give it the old college try!

"Bellatrix was right you've got to really mean it!"

-her future husband and father of her children

To be fair, they weren't friends yet

[to her other best friend]

@@idkmynameyet7589, indeed

@@Kangakool Tis a joke

Definition of give it the old college try US, old-fashioned. : to use one's very best effort : to try very hard We can win this game if we give it the old college try!

I also am a treasurer and accountant! For our charity committee, we have to have a chair, treasurer and secretary in order to function. The position I'm treasurer for is only £500k, whereas the budget I manage in my actual job (at a linked but separate large company) is a bit over £13 million. I've lost all perspective on what "a lot of money" actually is any more.

Pretty much the way I use it. "Eh, I´ll give it the good-old college try, I guess..."

Also used it on snape when chasing him on the half blood prince. He just missed/snape deflected it. No one seems to remember that one

No that was sectum sempra that he used on Snape. However Harry did use Crucio on Amycus Carrow in Deathly Hallows after he spits in Magonagalls face

@@courtneytrent6570 go back and read it again, I promise you it's in there. He doesn't even get the whole word out

@@ToddChristensen27 I think I remember what you’re talking about. I can’t believe they forgot about Amycus, I thought that was a huge moment!

@@courtneytrent6570 definitely was a huge miss. I expected them to miss the one in HBP, but the one against Amycus was a huge moment. Only reason I didn't mention it was because it was already mentioned when I made my comment

A lot of people seem to have forgotten that one.

Thanks!

Agreed! They're so fun to watch, especially the banter!

I don't think any first years died did they? I remember Collin Creevy I believe died. Either him or his brother Dennis but either way, they died but they weren't supposed to be there because everyone who wasn't 17 was being escorted to the Hog's Head/Aberforth Dumbledore

Yeah she knew it would be to hard to control

well done!

Snape Snape Severus Snape

DUMBLEDORE! 😁

Hermione. Hermione. Hermione.

Not confirmed, but also the question referred to the spell being verbally cast and we didn’t hear it

@@lordvindican4830 you’re right it was supposed to be verbal. Thanks!

Definitely

Nonverbally, so it doesn't count.

oh never mind, question said verbally, not sure which other occasions could be added if non-verbal uses were added thou, kinda curious

This one is a mixed bag for me. For one, none of the trio are capable of casting the AK but i can see in that situation it was necessary.

@@DhanushV2206 except in that instance they all could in order for the killing curse to work you need to truly want the target to die all 3 of the golden trio wanted nagini to die so the last horcrux would be destroyed so any of the 3 COULDVE used it they just wouldn't for moral reasons

@@mindovermatterbecomingyour1561 True, if Nagini wasn't inside that protective bubble in the books, the killing curse would have been affective at killing her, I guess Nagini is 'magic-resistant' in the movies without explanation but the point still stands

You mean THE J fan

Yep 😂😂… as an older sibling who likes both trivia and Harry Potter, I was bound to be THE Jay fan

Actually they said that Hermione achieved 12 but I am pretty sure that she only received 10 (9 outstandings and 1 exceeds expectations in DADA I think)

Originally Hermione takes 12 however she drops divination during third year and she drops muggle studies after the end of the year to put her on a regular time table of 10 classes for fourth year

@@hollymacnamara9986 You're not wrong, but they're talking about the max amount you CAN get, not just how much Hermione got.

oh yes sorry, because they said that’s what Hermione ‘got’ I assumed they were talking about how many owls she achieved but rewatching they were talking about how many lessons she ‘got’- how many she was aloud to take

Also in your original post you said that Percy didn’t take divination, so if Percy achieved 12 OWLs which subject did he take that Hermione didn’t original take? As she did take divination at the start of 3rd year when she was originally taking 12 but if he didn’t he must have taken an extra one ?

No, Hermione lost 5 points, and Harry and Ron earned 5 each. So in the end, it's only 5 earned collectively

Hermione loses 5 points before Harry and Ron are awarded 5 points, so Hermione's 5 points puts them at -5, Harrys 5, would put that back to 0, and Ron's 5 would make it 5 points.

And attempting against Snape at the end of HBP

I stumped J and Ben! I love being a Quizmaster. It's awesome to get to submit and vote for the Quizmaster questions used in the quizzes, see my name in the videos, AND to support SCB whenever I can. P. S. Sorry for the complex question, but congrats on those brownie points!

WELL... Rowling says its canon so... but I agree 😁 it shouldn't be

But it's still a type of memory charms, so not that big of a difference if you ask me.

Which has always been ironic to me because most people in College don't try very hard at all. Spending most of their time drinking and partying and doing assesment at the last moment.

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Add Tyler... There is a trio

DID YOU PUT YOUR NAME IN THE GOBLET OF FIRE?! Dumbledore said calmly.