JACK HANMA VS KURE RAIAN IS THE BIGGEST ROBBERY 

Jakc 7'11" raian 6'2" **SAME HEIGHT**

Fr they nerfed baki universe so much its ridiculous

Looked like a fan animation and Jack got nerfed unreasonably hard.

I think it shows how strong jack has gotten because he forced raian to use his removal to win I was hoping this fight was gonna finally activate jacks demon back but unfortunately they still want to shit on jack for some reason

Idgaf what the referee said Jack got back up and still fought!

Jack vomiting was definitely a fan service callback. The movie is filled with them. I’m honestly glad their fight was cut short. Spared us from more Papenbrook Raian.

They did Jack very dirty.

This seariously shows how powerscaling doesnt matter if the writer wants them to lose

Why no one is talking about raian being like almost the same size as jack 💀 Jack Hanma : 2.13 m (2.45) Raian Kure : 1.87 m 💀💀💀 Officially this figth was a robbery , the script was on Raian's side and against Jack

Bruhhh Baki literally had gone toe to toe with Yujiro prior to this crossover and we just got a draw with Ohma, and I think it's just giving respect between the writers because we knew Ohma ain't doing shit to Baki. still they robbed him of his victory as same goes for Jack.

Jack may have lost which disappoints me. But at least the fight was much closer. It wasn’t completely a one sided massacre. Jack bit good chunks off from Raian. Also gave him a couple of good punches and kicks. Hopefully Jack gets his revenge next movie. But it sucks that Jack keeps taking L’s. The disrespect has to stop.

Sad for me. Jack lost his height and got bully like ali jr. Sorry if my eng not good😅

6:40 Baki is so casual with his words

"Scripted fight from the beginning" My dude, it's fucking FICTION, no shit it was scripted from the beginning! It's a crossover designed to hype both series, everyone's going to get to look good and the results of the fights are arbitrary. I could get upset that my favorite character, Saw Paing, was written to literally headbutt Hanayama's fist repeatedly until he knocked himself out, even though the Hammer of Burma was always intended to target the opponent's head, but i recognize that this crossover has no bearing on the canon of either series, so I just move on.

my boy jack can never get a W 😭 not even against a dude who is in a weaker verse, jack is the Vegeta of the baki verse.

Exactly what i was thinking ! Well said ❤ !

People don't seem to understand that they nerfed the characters so they'll Macth nerativlliy

Such a damn let down i was waiting all this time FOR THIS!?

It's like Baki characters are DC comics and Kengan are Marvel.

Jack vomiting all the steroids is not Fan service call back, wdym bro got nerf after that. 😂

You gotta look at it like the 2 old men were having their favorite Pokémon fight each other. And it's like Hey, Hey, Hey, Hey guys, you're not supposed to hurt each other.

Raian won which makes sense I'm glad they made the right call

I waited for this just to get this jack should not have max out they should made jack gone rage mod like garland fight

Jack swallows more steroids as if he doesn’t swallow a bucket full every day.

The only thing I was disopointed was: Jack and raian: sharing the same height which it's impossible Ohma: being kind and calm like baki

He knocked out pickles? What a load of crap.

Guys it was not a robbery, Remember that they are both from direfent universes and power scale the reason why I dont like baki is because they do some stupid stuff that is not normal, for this crossover to be made I said it before and at the end I was right, They had to nerf Baki Characters because they are Stupidly broken, it was not a robbery, all Character were placed between the same power level for this to be enjoyable, This is how it was to supposed to go down.

Baki was like this fight is crazy vs. crazy and you know what that means.

I thought all the fights from this movie were just okay. Honestly it was more fun just seeing all these different characters interact. I like that Oliva and Julius were best bros, haha.

Ohma should not be able to even MOVE pickle. Kenyan universe got some major plot armor.

Jack got disrespected so hard , all that effort even when his body adapted to massive amounts of drugs, they make a small capsule of drugs to cause him to go skinny and not even give him a boost of any kind is just wild, I know I shouldn't be invested in the character but oh my god the amount of times he's just been beaten is just dumb, hopefully he unlocks the demon or something similar cause he needs a boost for real

It would be better if this crossover was a tv series.

They were keeping the Kengan verse happy with this crossover.

What’s the instrumental music that you have playing over your commentary??

I love how salty Raian was despite winning lol

The thing is, if Jack and Raian had a draw as well Kengan would lose since Ohma and Baki will obviously have a draw. The only way for Kengan not to lose if Jack and Raian drew is if Baki pulled something similar to Yujiro before he fought the Grand Kiohin saying that if he didn’t win their first victory wouldn’t count

This whole movie was a DISASTER lmao

I'm genuine animanga fan and I don't usually get deep into anime debates like this but cry about it real fans of both anime know the fights ended fairly and correctly

Bro jack made raian actuall loss muscle😂

They did Jack way too dirty in this fight

To be fair raian is very powerful like he literally split a man in half with his techniques

I'm a Jack Hanma fan myself, but it's not Raian's fault Jack does not have submission defense. He may be superior in strength, but if he is not smart enough to negate a simple choke by controlling Raian's arm with an overhook, it's his own fault for losing.

2:00 i was genuinely believed jack doing that face was him trying to imitate the removal. I missed the drugs x ray completely lol

saw paing being on the ground for 30-40 seconds=nothing jack being on the ground for like maximum 5 seconds= yeah nah he clearly lost 🤓

Poor Jack was used for the fall guy

I cant agree more than you

Jack falls asleep for a sec from a choke "CALL THE MATCH" Baki ali jr's Omha at the start of the fight flat on his face "hmmm lets see where this goes"...

Calm down bro its not canon💀

To be real, i was so hype that i didn't care that jack lost or that the fight was short. yeah, i wanted jack him to win, but, the battle was so cool that i didn't care. I was scream and my smile was bigger than the jokers, i litteraly couldn't stop smiling

Jack didn’t not lost pickle interrupted the fight Raian and jack were a tie

The fact is why would Jack vomit out all this chemicals Jack has been so above doing that unless it was like a last resort

You guys just gotta remember the crossover isn’t canon

My main issue with this fight is that, instead of throwing his signature uppercut, which he was in a perfect position to unleash, Jack got up and retaliated with hanayama's overhand right. This aggravates me beyond reason, it's just plain wrong, especially since it was shown in a "oooo he did the thing" way

I don't think they so much nerfed Jack just remembers he punched Pickle hhe weight 200 kg and he fly 2-3 meters and he have so Insanity reaction and just remember He can just kill Raian one single punch

The only reason they shorten their fight because it's not an episode

Raian would've win either way but i just hated how jack lost but they were both nerfed

Funny how Saw Paing was knocked several times but wasn't declared a loser

Even though they should prioritise Jsck since Baki Rahan shows him as the protagonist getting stronger, it was s close fight though. My only complaint is the lack of movement and overall stuff. Felt like the 2 just stood on the same place during the entire fight.

It wouldn't have been close if raian used the kure techniques so anyone crying that jack got nerfed so did raian

Do you guys forget that Raian ia AN ACTUAL DEMON???

I’m okay with suspending certain aspects of logic, but not power scaling. Ohma should not be able to even MOVE pickle. Kengan universe got some major plot armor.

This is what we call in DBZ, the Vegeta treatment

It's clear that they nerfed the Baki verse a lot. It would be better if they had packed the Kengan characters further into the story and manga then you wouldn't notice it so much with the nerfing and scaling

Baki fans are mad their power scaling got debunked i wish this was the same for other animes cus these power scaling things are getting boring to watch or read and just annoying now if animes debunked every power scaling then nobody would power scale anf just enjoy the show -peace out

I wonder if people would still be upset if saw pang won against hanayama and Jack beat rayn

Somebody butt hurt.

For those of you complaining about this what did you expect in a crossover the strength of these charachters won't be cannon at all if it was all the fighters from baki would of won in a single attack

If they hadn't baking would solo all together

Finally someone with a justified and true opinion on this fight!

It's not current jack that for the time line looked like right after pickle before father son fight.

Well this is before jack got another bone lengthening surgery, titanium teeth and his goudou so it kinda make sense that Raian slaps pre sumo arc and jack arc Jack Hanma

Im gonna be bitter when they remake the musashi arc and we gotta relive jack getting his ass kicked by Motobe smh loss after loss

they declare Raian the winner before Jack woke up. He passed out for a few seconds, none of they were knockedout before that.

Kengan verse was maxed to adapt baki verse logic. Baki fans bois can’t take the L

Jack traded his strength for speed when he threw He's honestly weaker when he's skinny Raian wouldn't have choked him out if he had his neck muscles

They nerfed Bakiverse so the fights could be more entertaining instead of Having the Kenganverse get low- diffed. Just enjoy it 🗿

They kinda just wanted to give raian anything because he doesn't have a manga adaptation rn. They allowed jack to take every hit without any sort of reprisal, and then they did the "maxing out" trope he's only done once since against baki...they were really pulling shit out of their ass for jack to lose here.

Broski how the fuck did they nerf baki verse so much and yet kengan is still losing like if baki verse wasn't nerfed jack hanma would eat the whole kengan verse alive

I would have liked to see Raian vs pickel from the start. Raian is supposed to be the high of fighting evaluation from selected breeding. And pickel is like the the OG original model.

They had to give kengan character the win since a baki character already won the 1st round

I agree the guy missing chunks of muscle is in worse shape those were huge bites

I just don’t get how yujiro and kuroki treated baki and ohma like they were nothing when Baki beat yujiro recently so they’re on the same level and ohma is on par with Baki in this fight. How is it that Baki and ohma are fodder compared to those two when Baki beat his dad and Ohma is shown to be on bakis level it doesn’t make sense.

I am okay with the way they did things, there needed to be one battle where kengan came out on top over baki. They have to take away a lot from jack to make him an interesting matchup in the kengan verse. I think what makes this matchup taste so bad was just how they had to nerf jack for this one, where he's unrecognizable. The jack that faced pickle and the jack in this crossover are completely different characters.

hanayama's vice grip made sense but jack's maxing out power up felt like bs and a lot cheaper here than in the maximum tournament. I'm not mad about the outcomes. Idk why people expect accurate powerscaling in a damn crossover. it would also be a draw in a fight between naruto, ichigo and luffy if naruto, bleach and one piece had a crossover special and this is the case right here. what I'm disappointed at is the animation quality.

You could argue jack was desperate for a win by any means after the loss he faced from pickle + watching Baki fight His dad. The problem being jack wasn’t fully recovered and had a bad reaction (I could be reaching). You could also argue they called the fight early cause they thought someone was finna die. It’s nice to see jacks pride wasn’t hurt seeing he got up and believed he would still be able to continue even tho his fight was prematurely stopped.

While the Baki characters were nerfed, I still had an enjoyable time as it would be really boring if they just knocked out the Kengan characters in one hit

No one gonna ask how he knockout pickle

My issue is how well animated Baki vs pickle was (which was multiple episodes long btw) compared to this movie especially this fight tho

It should have been big character vs side character. Like hanayama vs sawpang. I dont mind seeing raian stomping Retsu or Doppo

I don’t know what you mean they were knocked out tons of times, neither of them were knocked out until Jack was knocked out. Ohma also didn’t knock out Pickle, he just kicked him and stopped him similar to Retsu, Pickle was only knocked over

the entire movie nerfed all the baki characters

i mean making kenagn lose all fights wouldnt have been a smart move marketing wise and yes everyone tried to end the fight as soon as possible because of how fierce that fight was worried about them dying

You guys need to understand jack is a beast that can only use his pure brute strength that's it but raian is warrior assassin raian said it himself when he was facing ohma he dont wanted to used any kure techniques becuz the fight will be over to quick raian knew abt jack before the fight same goes for jack and for raian it's not even about winning its abt crushing and killing his opponents and him going one on one with only using his strength was pretty fair to jack

Baki is on a level with his dad ,oham shouldn't stand a chance with baki

It’s crazy how in Baki sometimes a fighter will be down for a while then they won’t call it but they’re call it real fast when the fighter is supposed to lose jack kneeled down for like 20 seconds they didn’t call it jack falls down from getting choked they call it ASAP even tho he gets up right away lol

I knew there was going to be 1 win for both sides and either a real win or draw for Baki vs ashura. Once I saw hanayama (idk how to spell their names in Japanese well) win his fight I automatically knew Jack is going to lose him. And that fight was bullshit

Jack could have win , but they had a cheat and because Hannah win his fight I think Jack could’ve won. They just had a cheat him.

how can ohma knock out someone who dinosaurs and heavy weapons bro even yujiro cant knock out pickle

I’ve been following Baki since before Kengan was a thing and honestly I think raian would actually beat jack. Jacks the weakest hanma and raian is debatably the strongest Kure currently. Jack needs modifications and enhancements to keep up with the top tiers in Baki but raian is from a bloodline of warriors. He doesn’t even use his family techniques because of how OP they are and prefers to just overwhelm his opponents

Nerfed height