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@@iBeo01 ya I could beat a lot of wrestlers at wrestling. It helps that I wrestled all throughout school and have additional wrestling from BJJ and MMA
@@godsfavoritt771 How about you back up your smart mouth and go fight him yourself? Oh, yeah, you're just a keyboard warrior who does all his fighting behind a computer screen. Weak sauce, dude.
I competed 10 years judo and 12 years no gi. Beat a lot of wrestlers using guillotines. The first time I went up against a wrestler that was a d1 5th place nationally I found out how different some wrestlers are. Dude felt like he weighed twice of me. Not sure what this guys wrestling credentials are but in my experience the d1 guys are built different. Great video!
@@claymac7895 best wrestlers go to mma so they can make real money. Nicky Rod was d3 wrestler. Go watch Bo Nickal three time d1 national champ run through a jujitsu gym with little to no training in jujitsu. Any person who has grappled a d1 wrestler will tell you there’s a big difference it’s just not even debatable.
Pretty good but the BJJ guy seemed kind of mean and arrogant. I guess if you have a real beef with someone you would be that way though. Still a bit of humility would make him look bettter. More charismatic and likable in his victory by taking the high ground so to speak even in victory instead of lowering himself to his opponents level with hate and trash talk.
@@rodtack8420 Didn't really come across as mean and arrogant. This has always been Tyler's sense of humor on his channel and he's about as self-deprecating as they come in many instances. They both came into this challenge with what appears to me to be a high level of back-and-forth banter and faux trash talk. I wouldn't read too much into it. It's certainly not what I would consider "hate" in any case.
Shouldn't even be a question of if, since it was a bet. But I guess nowadays with the paul brothers as "exemples" fulfilling a bet is exception. Go figure.
I love to see two guys with big differences of opinon take it to the mat and competitively end it in a friendly manner. I enjoyed it and learned some stuff in the process. Thanks!
@@dannysan1272yeah thats what i thought but im gonna give him the benefit of doubt bc he did say right after thank god it wasnt a gold medalist shooting
Seriously, Ryan was an average high school wrestler in a state that isn’t know for wrestling. Any mid level wrestler has more in their arsenal than just a double leg and this would have been more competitive. Ryan isn’t a good wrestler, like at all. I’d like to see him go against somebody who at a minimum wrestled in college. Jordan Burroughs is a different animal. I couldn’t tell if he was joking
when I was 1 stripe blue (pushing 50 years old) a very fit / athletic 20 year old wrestler came in to "try" a class. We rolled in open mat. he was no-gi and I was gi. I don't wrestle and I only train gi.... Wrestlers go super intense and although it was supposed to be a light round he was giving me 150%. He got the pin... and a headlock and I congratulated him for scoring points in the sport we weren't doing and then 5 seconds later took his back after doing a text book head lock escape. Have to say it was very satisfying since gym owner/professor was watching to make sure it didn't get out of hand while I gently folded the clothes of a 180 lb tornado while he was still wearing them.
jujitsu practitioners in wrestling unless they are at a high level would instantly get shit on. Wrestlers can compete against jujitsu guys in jiujitsu alot better than jujitsu guys can compete against wrestlers in wrestling if that makes sense.
My old MMA/BJJ coach would go to them on occasion in San Diego. He never won first place since he only wrestled a couple of years in middle school but he beat a few guys and picked up some cool new moves. I wish wrestling had a more chill culture like bjj does. I think the very nature of competiting for the starting spot for each weight class makes it a whole different vibe. Back in middle school I didn't win the starting spot in my weight class until I dropped a full 3 weight classes (I was fat not starving), then around sophmore year I started to niche my spot on my highschool team and I really felt the hate from some of those dudes who wanted my spot. It wasn't like I was did anything extra with them at practice either it was just this knowing their JV thing and I was the reason for it. BJJ is way healthier since everyone can just go to the tournament and wins and losses aren't as crazy (unless your pro or something crazy like that).
Huge respect and display of being a good sport. Lots of younger ones watching you both I'm sure. You both have taught them some important life lessons in this vid, well done.
The problem with these wrestling vs jui jitsu competitions is that they are almost always favored toward the submission aspect. The wrestlers job is to get you down and the bjj guys are already down. You need to add a 3rd element to off balance both instead of throwing bjj into his element. You need to add ground and pound for it to be a truly fair match up. Not that it’ll ever happen but that’s when you see the bjj guys lose to wrestlers.
BJJ is not for actual fighting, it's just a sport. In a real fight there are no rules. Your opponent can hit back, you can be bitten, eye gouged... etc. You grab somebody in a real fight and all bets are off. Fingers in the mouth... and so on.
@@OmegaMouse This is the thing a lot of people forget, you need to straight up train multiple sports to be a good fighter. You need boxing, kick boxing, some kind of wrestling like grappling, with less jiu jitsu. Its the reason combat sambo and even wrestling sambo tends to beat jiu jitsu even in jiu jitsu rules because even Sambo wrestling its jiu jitsu + judo + wrestling. Remember keep those horizons open everyone, what those on the other side of the pond are doing might be filling the gaps in your game
@@OmegaMouse In a real fight an elite wrestler will almost always beat a top tier elite BJJ specialist because wrestling is all about positioning. If Gable Stevenson fought Gordon Ryan in a street fight he'd double leg him and out position him and once he got dominant control he'd lay down a ton of damage with the striking.
@@OmegaMouse It is for actual fighting, you just have to incorporate other aspects into your game. Knowing how to do more always helps. BJJ guys can do all the cheap moves too, and then they will have training and technique on top of all that.
As a white belt I’m looking forward to your instructional. I have landed a few, but more have gotten away. That being said, I think the hillbilly rash guard will definitely help me land some more. I’ll buy the matching shorts using your promo code too.
Get Danaher's front headlock instructional instead. This guy is really a black belt? If I were just watching the video with no context, I would think mid blue belt who loves guillotine. I'm not a troll type either, I'm being completely honest.
The Viper rashgaurd goes hard. I have been practicing BJJ for a little over 6 months now and I have watched a lot of your videos while at work and studied your guillotine. I have a smaller figure so I always have trouble getting enough of my arm around the neck before they know whats happening. You technique is crazy. And I see the SCSU shirt in the intro :)
@@TylerSpanglerI will point out he is playing your game by your rules. Include striking into your match. Then eliminate rules. Like real life. I’ve seen people be really good in the guard, until elbows and fists start landing them from the top. Also, in the street, a thumb in the eye or an ear getting ripped off usually stops that arm bar or choke. Almost all the valuable tools in real life like Shaolin Chi-na are illegal even in ufc, but can eliminate most submissions outright. They deserve practice and respect as they have been used for millennia. Don’t get me wrong, I really respect the skill set that jujitsu provides, especially fighting off your back. But it’s more of a chess match and sport. I’m older than you guys so don’t appreciate that as much since I have people I care about to defend. I’m not sure why this came up in my feed, but your video shows you acting exactly the same as the adjectives you used on the wrestler. Respect everyone. It’s prob some 75 year old 130 lb guy that knows 100 ways to kill you with a seat belt that will teach you humility. 😊
No training whatsoever but I wrestled for years against various people beat a HS state champ horribly and got cocky. I had considerable strength never ending stamina and speed considering my size. I beat sometimes as many as 4 or 5 people at a time and got too used to winning against mediocre challengers. I went against a college wrestler who was 5th in the country and he beat me like a red headed step child every single time we went at it but I never gave up because I was learning from him. he was also like 50 pounds lighter then me or so and man handled me lol. I wish I had access to BJJ here in podunk Maine when I was younger I think learning multiple styles can only be a benefit to anyone. The main thing I learned was to never ever underestimate anyone yet always have the mindset that you will not lose no matter the cost. Sportsmanship is everything imo and this video shows that even in a loss you keep your head high but also concede with grace lol! Much respect. Stay with it till you can't anymore!
I think the one thing you said about the posture of your back when finishing a guillotine is worth noting. Being flat on your back gives you no power or angle to block the blood flow properly. Also, octopus rash guard on xmartial is sweeeeet.
It depends though on what sport they are competing in? Imagine a blackbelt showing up to the Penn State wrestling room. I doubt he does anything against them
This is cool and all but when was the last time a jiu-jitsu guy won any belt at any weight class in any mma promotion. Wrestling plus striking is always going to be the winning combination.
Exactly, BJJ guys win BJJ matches against wrestlers. Who would have thought? But how does that translate into actual fights? Simple, the ranking of UFC fighters with the most successful title fights is dominated by people with a wrestling base, not BJJ.
My wife's nephew was a D3 national champ runner-up in wrestling and a high school florida state champion. He entered a jiu jitsu tournament two months ago with zero jits experience. He won the tournament and took home a few hundred dollars. I'm just saying there are plenty of wrestlers who would smoke a jits black belt.
youre comparing a decent wrestler to a beginnger comp with white belts? thats like a boxing champ going in a day care and saying hes the hardest dude. you put a pound for pound dude with same number of years grappling against one another and ill take the juju guy.
@@ty8012they didn't say what level the kid competed at. I find it hard to believe the comp let him compete against white belts. A D3 wrestler is not a "decent" lol. The goober in this video is decent.
@@maat826 because he says he has next to no Jujitsu experience so I'm pretty sure he's likely not qualifying for an adcc Championship or something. Little to no experience with equate to a white belt certainly not anything above a blue bell.
The flamazing rashguard is really cool, I’m a white belt been training since january and have hit only 2-3 guillotines in that time, I’m looking forward to your instructional
The problem that all wrestling-focused arts have in common is the idea that every fight ends on the ground and that the other person will follow the rules. The ground (pavement, cement, concrete) is not friendly. The environment rarely works for wrestling, and people you piss off or that just come at you don't have to follow your rules. I've seen a lot of wrestling types get beat down in clubs and on the street. Hell, even the Gracies had to start mixing up their "better than every other martial art" martial art with a lot of kicks, punches, and techniques from other martial arts just to survive matches once they no longer could rig the UFC.
This mirrors my minimal experience with wrestlers in Judo. I remember when I was a green belt and the sensei introduced some state wrestling champ to the group. He was built like a fire hydrant and very cocky. I was his first partner for randori and pretty nervous. He was in way better shape than me and "wrestler" had an aura of invincibility. At the time, I didn't know anything about a wrestler's "kit." Immediately he shot for my leg, and I thought about Ken Shamrock vs Dan Severn (1995) and the many guillotine chokes. I immediately wrapped his neck and took him down. It was over in seconds. After that, his attitude changed. He was no longer cocky and I could tell he had a new found respect for Judo. He grappled with caution and did his best. He seemed much more open to learning about Judo rather than, what appeared to be, an attitude of superiority where he'd show us all how great he was.
@@willx7648 Alex, I'll take cocky commenters on RU-vid for a $1,000. Alex: "Since when can you shoot for the legs in Judo?" When this was his first Judo class and had no idea what the rules were. He had about an hour of instruction in Judo and defaulted to what he knew. This was the first thing he did as we started. Hey man, don't be a obnoxious online. We can all play that game. There are people on the other side of these comments. Call me a liar when you don't know what happened and weren't there? Think before you post. I'll take alcohol for a reason (been there).
@@tvtvtvtv98 Why? WTF would I gain by lying about this experience on this channel? It happened and it's not that remarkable of a story, but is relevant to this video.
I am currently learning how to deal with guillotine on my first week. my neck needs life insurance but this video helped me look into your channel and subscribe to learn more on my off time to improve! The cuddle hub rash guard is hilarious . that one would be my favorite.
Hi Tyler, I love all the designs! I don’t actually own a rash guard(I do Gi 99% of the time and wear a swim shirt when I do no-Gi). I’ve never landed a guillotine and I feel like one of your rash guards would give me the extra horse power needed to tie the knot. I’d get the matching shorts with your code too! Love the videos thank you
@@tommurphy9147 thanks for the advice! I shower immediately after classes and wash my Gi after each use - 10 months of BJJ and Ive only dealt with minor injuries, no staph thankfully ;)
@@robertdemon3550 skin to skin contact if somebody is really dirty or has been in contact with an infection. The chance of getting something is higher when you factor in that some people don’t shower right after their classes/rolls.
That was freestyle grappling. One man could do whatever he wanted. He also knew he only had to defend one thing.... So yeah it took him a few minutes to choke a grown man, when the grown man knew he was trying to choke him.... If he wanted to do other things, it would have gone faster.
My front headlock is probably one of the weakest aspects of my game right now, so I'm looking forward to the instructional. PS: i think the WWF rash guard is hilarious
I wrestled from middle school all the way through college. I've personally seen elite All American level wrestlers out position and stall out top level BJJ blackbelts. So it's possible. I've also seen wrestlers even below that surprisingly handle purple and brown belts
I am just wondering if the wrestlers know they are at a massive disadvantage in this friendly rolling. BJJ has so many sub's that doesn't have permanent damage, the wrestling is made to control your opponent while applying some ground and pound, they don't train sub's they train control. Great Video.
Do you think you could guillotine a golfer? How about a spelling bee champion? What do you say, tough guy? I can match you up with former PBA champion, Doug Kent. Think you can guillotine him? C'mon tough guy!
That sprinkled donuts rash guard would look good while hitting some chokes. I haven't had much luck finishing guillotines...may have to check out your instructional. Fun video!
I don’t know about that Jordan Burroughs comment though. He doesn’t put his head to the side. He does a hard blast double where his head drives straight through you.
Yup, wrestled in school and started jiu jitsu later in life. Learned that newbie jiu jitsu with wrestling background is Guillotine Christmas! Again, awesome video and buddy needs to protect that neck😅!
Wrestling is a different sport. A judo practitioner would literally never get the back of a skilled wrestler. Simply put wrestlers at the higher levels really only care about take downs and riding time. There is nothing in judo that is going to stop that. There is nothing in judo that is going to escape that. It would be at best a stalemate for the judo practitioner and likely a lose for them due to the wrestler putting their weight on them for a very long time. Eventually that wears someone down for free.
As a former wrestler who is a white belt in BJJ right now. I can confirm I was a guillotine buffet, but I've now upgraded to a guillotine charcuterie board.
Good video! I honestly never understand why us wrestlers don't go for more single leg shots instead of doubles, especially since most people dont really have a submission defense on the go as easy as the guillotine.
Αmateur college freestyle grecoroman tranditional wrestling have suplex slams not guillotines but in a free game or streetfight can beat easy judo or jujutsu
I used to think I was really good at submission wrestling until I got older and stopped weight training.. I was never muscle bound but had a build like a gymnast, at 165 lbs I used to bench 315 in a few reps and squat a lot too, I have tapped out heavy weight wrestlers at 265 lbs… and I’d still tap out the average bjj wrestler for sure , but now I’m not as strong and realize I’m really not very good at bjj , it was mostly strength… I recall wrestling a small 130lb Chinese guy in my bjj class years ago and I’d man handle him but his technique was incredible, I couldn’t tap him, so strength really helps…
Great sportsmanship and kudos to for him coming to your turf and trying his luck at your sport. Reminds me, one should be careful what one asks for, one might get it.
One of the biggest differences is that wrestlers create a habit of thinking that pinning from top position is the only way to dominate someone, which relies more on strength. In bjj, you don’t need to pin to dominate. You can flow between mount, and back mount bottom or top. so you don’t rely on raw strength as much.
