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Jacob Rees-Mogg clashes with an activist over calls for Man United & Man City to change their badges due to supposed links to slavery, and debate whether Britain should pay reparations to its former colonies.
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@sabejreid2072
@sabejreid2072 Год назад
Can we stand any more of this BS PC crap?
@stephfoxwell4620
@stephfoxwell4620 Год назад
Grifters still grifting.
@paulfenton7776
@paulfenton7776 Год назад
Mogg's made a career of it.
@alland1241
@alland1241 Год назад
@@paulfenton7776 Are you two twinnies ?
@julianmorris9951
@julianmorris9951 Год назад
Plenty of black slave owners back in the day, maybe his ancestors owned some 🤔 blacks selling blacks is nothing new and they still do it today but nobody cares because there’s no compensation to be grifted out of them.
@macklee6837
@macklee6837 Год назад
If he's so angry with Britain, why does he choose to live here? I don't get it. If I moved to Japan and hated it, I'd leave
@dorothyramser7805
@dorothyramser7805 Год назад
I agree.
@danielward7008
@danielward7008 Год назад
He's a parasite who is looking to get what he can out of us. Pure and simple.
@GimmieTheLoot
@GimmieTheLoot Год назад
@@laurenceBDontYaNo ww2 ones?
@dorothyramser7805
@dorothyramser7805 Год назад
@@laurenceBDontYaNo I wasn't aware they'd compensated the family of men they tortured, starved and beheaded with a Samurai sword. What about the Myanmar villagers they tied to trees and used for bayonet practice? They took their names first?
@purplehaze8557
@purplehaze8557 Год назад
@@laurenceBDontYaNo You are unwittingly making Mogg's point for him: Britain also paid reparations by waging a war against slavery, which cost a lot of money. Most people don't realize that the Royal Navy was still freeing slaves in the early decades of the 20th century!
@hyperbole6529
@hyperbole6529 Год назад
Another con artist from the Caribbean
@hyperbole6529
@hyperbole6529 Год назад
@@laurenceBDontYaNo Great word play. I'm really surprised a leftists mug could do such things 👋👋👋 well dome sir
@Dontjudge103
@Dontjudge103 Год назад
Typical racist, no wonder there’s so much anger !
@Joescoatrose
@Joescoatrose Год назад
Actually he's British and doing very well for himself making big fat fees appearing on TV . Just another grifter making a living out of bashing the UK. Seems to be the latest fakery. ☹️
@charlesnunno8377
@charlesnunno8377 Год назад
"Activist" always means con-artist.
@elkpaz560
@elkpaz560 Год назад
Funded by the public purse.
@paulfenton7776
@paulfenton7776 Год назад
@Elk Paz JRM, I assume.
@suzyt9911
@suzyt9911 Год назад
This young man will not listen to any answers to any questions he asks. Typical “activist “who has a rehearsed conversation and will not listen to anyone else
@charlesnunno8377
@charlesnunno8377 Год назад
@@suzyt9911 Leftists are worse than a religion. At least if he was preaching some kind of theology it would be playing fair.
@michelledevins8588
@michelledevins8588 Год назад
Why don't they mention the ships that patrolled the Barbary coast by the English navy and intercepted slave ships. We were appalled by the idea of people as chattel, that's who England are. Check your history.
@Noddy656
@Noddy656 Год назад
If you have a stupid argument raise your voice and shout over everyone else - empty vessels make the most noise!
@cyberleaderandy1
@cyberleaderandy1 Год назад
They want to silence everyone who wont comply
@Leo-dw4fx
@Leo-dw4fx Год назад
I wish Femi Nylander would be consistent and demand reparations from the Arabs, Turks and Africans instead of only focusing on the Europeans. Hold everyone accountable
@ReasonAboveEverything
@ReasonAboveEverything Год назад
Its about hatered.
@LuzdoSol00
@LuzdoSol00 Год назад
What lack of education on your part? Reparations it's not about money solely. Slavery yes happens as a form of oppression, but between Africa and Europe was Chattel Slavery and the ramifications still to this day. Please, please, please. Britain has a catalogue of books explaining why this is relevant. I am so tired of the scale of ignorance in this debate. From the left and also from the right. Look at the meaning of the words Chatto about this topic. Moreover, we still address individuals with Colonial undertones. I don't agree with everything otherwise is free for all but this one you guys need education.
@LuzdoSol00
@LuzdoSol00 Год назад
@@ReasonAboveEverything Get some books and read before addressing someone like that. Otherwise Kemi wouldn't be there.
@njoyingtube1
@njoyingtube1 Год назад
I wish THESE PEOPLE would leave the country they so obviously despise !
@in3x
@in3x Год назад
​@@LuzdoSol00 calling people uneducated, refers to chattel slavery as "chatto". Also doesn't realise that Arab slavery was also largely of this model, not to mention castration and brutal treatment meaning no descendents to claim reparations from.
@skylongskylong1982
@skylongskylong1982 Год назад
Do not ask the people who sold them to the slavers, and are still doing the same today in African slave trade.
@danielward7008
@danielward7008 Год назад
There's no anti-Western grift to exploit in going after Africans.
@truthspeaker8243
@truthspeaker8243 Год назад
@Skylongskylong The Arabs are just as much part of the African slave trade of yesterday as they are of today no one wants to mention the Sub-Saharan trade that historic fact will always get over looked.
@SuperPerfectMan
@SuperPerfectMan Год назад
Same Africans who sold slaves are running their countries now same families. But nobody want to talk about that
@petersaupe7455
@petersaupe7455 Год назад
Slavery is booming in Africa and the profits are spent with arms dealers.
@dave4803
@dave4803 Год назад
Funny how they never go after their own kind when they were the ones selling the slaves to Europeans or that it was England that put a stop to the slave trade.
@MebXVII
@MebXVII Год назад
Anyone who wants reparations is no better than those who took part in the trade. They both want to profit from the misery of others.
@RestingonHope
@RestingonHope Год назад
Thats actually true. infact im going to steal that line
@MebXVII
@MebXVII Год назад
​@@RestingonHope Feel free to take it, with my compliments!
@cassandrade-wolfe6926
@cassandrade-wolfe6926 Год назад
Mebb. Brilliantly put. Well said. 👍
@hermitpermit2553
@hermitpermit2553 Год назад
And most of us bloody didnt take part in the trade, my ancestors were busy dying in their 30s from factory or mining work or being shipped off for years of captivity and penal labour to australia for stealing food and other petty crime, in some cases their entire families were sent in exchange for no death sentence.
@paulfenton7776
@paulfenton7776 Год назад
@Hermit Permit he wasn't saying you should pay, but the generational wealth of people like Drax.
@stephenlegate5532
@stephenlegate5532 Год назад
If he listened with his ears in stead of his mouth he might have learned something
@qetoun
@qetoun Год назад
He should take his begging bowl to Nigeria.
@61shirley
@61shirley Год назад
Everytime Jacob tries to answer he talks over him. The guest is insecure with his own position on this topic.
@cyberleaderandy1
@cyberleaderandy1 Год назад
They always are
@paulfenton7776
@paulfenton7776 Год назад
That's what Mogg does all the time. His whataboutisms completely failed.
@61shirley
@61shirley Год назад
@@paulfenton7776 there’s nothing wrong with whataboutism, it provides nuance when nuance isn’t there
@sookmajoaby
@sookmajoaby Год назад
He's ignorant
@luciusesox1luckysox570
@luciusesox1luckysox570 Год назад
@@sookmajoaby Who ?
@cartorque4202
@cartorque4202 Год назад
He should do a little research and go after the families of the black men who sold their own into slavery. Not all slaves were black neither
@dave4803
@dave4803 Год назад
Want to hear something shocking? Slavery is alive and well but the victims are mainly white and from eastern Europe, but no one cares about them as a black person with a chip on his shoulder trying to con money for someone that died nearly 200 years before he was born matters more. There's no reparations for them or reparations for the victims of black crime. These people took a lot more back then they ever lost and it still isn't enough. It should be part of the deal, any black person demanding reparations should have to repay the UK for everything he and his family took out first. Then the second part of the deal is he and his family once they've gotten their money is leave the UK and never return.
@addamr2052
@addamr2052 Год назад
As a white Aussie I can testify to that my own descendants came from the English slave prison ships to Australia . They were made to work as slaves against their will for the English at that period of time in history . They may have knocked off a loaf of bread . I could understand if it were a raisin and toast loaf but just a plain white loaf was too harsh .
@dave4803
@dave4803 Год назад
@@addamr2052 Bl*ck people own the monopoly on slavery and pity. They don't care just about every race has been in enslaved by another at some point or that they were enslaved by their own people and sold to Europeans. They just want to hate on wh*te people and live on pity, this is just the perfect excuse. If it was really about the slavery they would go after their own people who were the ones that slapped the chains on first.
@nealejames2243
@nealejames2243 Год назад
I wouldn't be surprised if Femi is a descendent of slave owners/traders. African tribes enslaved millions (as they believed trading slaves and enslaving enemies was their God given right). Once enslaved, they then sold those poor souls to the Transatlantic Slave Traders (except for the Portuguese who travelled inland Africa to capture slaves themselves). As one African historian wrote "In Africa, you were either a slave owner or a slave". The domestic African slave trade alone ( not to mention the Arab slave traders) had been going for centuries before the Europeans came on the scene. So there is a fair chance that Femi is a descendent of slave owners. The odds of Jacob being a descendent is a lot less, as only a tiny percentage of Brits were slave owners/traders.
@Joescoatrose
@Joescoatrose Год назад
Yes a very,very tiny percent of Brits were slave owners. Most of us were not paid enough to feed ourselves.
@woz7379
@woz7379 Год назад
They just can’t stop talking over people spouting their tired worn out cliches,woe is me I’m a victim.Please just shut up!!🇬🇧🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿
@pk3776
@pk3776 Год назад
Grifters always blame others and want their money…🤔
@brother1ray
@brother1ray Год назад
That's the Grift......and it will never stop!
@rogerdodger1790
@rogerdodger1790 Год назад
Want soneone else's money more like
@LittleSister60
@LittleSister60 Год назад
What a rude man, constantly over talking.
@paulfenton7776
@paulfenton7776 Год назад
Mogg always does that.
@crs2385
@crs2385 Год назад
​@@paulfenton7776 Mogg wasn't the one talking over him.
@paulfenton7776
@paulfenton7776 Год назад
@CRS mogg never listens to an opposing opinion because he always thinks he's right when, in reality, he's mostly wrong.
@alland1241
@alland1241 Год назад
@@crs2385 He knows that, he's just being a gob on a stick
@crs2385
@crs2385 Год назад
​@@paulfenton7776 Actually he does listen to the other side. And responds accordingly to the relevant points/opposing arguments. He doesn't interrupt like this activist is doing.
@michaelblake3808
@michaelblake3808 Год назад
In 1833 britain borrowed 40%of its gdp to pay for the end of the slave trade. That borrowing wasn't paid off until 2014. Which means most people who are working have paid for the abolition of the slave trade in their taxes right through the 20th century and 21st century
@elkpaz560
@elkpaz560 Год назад
@@BonusHole There was unemployment in the Caribbean after the war and their governments asked the British to provide jobs. Should have said no.
@charlie1lewis
@charlie1lewis Год назад
We paid the owners of the slave trade, not the slaves. Our own taxes went to slave owners
@landsea7332
@landsea7332 Год назад
The Athenians had a lottery form of Democracy , but Democracy really stared in Britain when the Enlightenment ideas of John Locke were put into the 1689 English Bill of Rights. From here Democratic Rights and Human rights , science , technology and public programs began to evolve over the next 300 years . This was eventually exported to the US , NZ , Australia , Canada , and Japan . This is one of the greatest achievements in all of humanity .
@elkpaz560
@elkpaz560 Год назад
@@charlie1lewis We paid for the manumission of slaves who were legally property. That is why it worked. In America the refusal to do the same to the owners of slaves on the Southern plantations resulted in civil war. A lot of help was given to the former slaves not least by the Church of the West Indies but that was not enforced taxation. And any way why do these wonderful people who so enrich us and are such strong individuals need so much help after all these generations?
@garyphisher7375
@garyphisher7375 Год назад
@@charlie1lewis We not only paid for their freedom - we used our Armies and Navies to end the trade in West and North Africa, South America, Europe, East Africa, and finally Arabia. Thousandsof our men were maimed or died - the Africans and Arabs pleaded with us to allow them to use sl-a-ves. The British are the heroes - stop embarrassing yourself - your ancestors are so ashamed of you!
@boranbkk4270
@boranbkk4270 Год назад
There is no debate. This is a Maritime nation. We are an island. Ships are integral to “OUR” culture and “ OUR” history.
@Jamie-Z
@Jamie-Z Год назад
We are also the country that created the West African Squadron, East African Squadron and Carribean Squadron and did our best to end slavery. Why are they focused on fighting the country that did the most to end slavery rather than the countries that continue with slavery? Given how much we gave them I fail to understand the complete lack of gratitude. British navy gave their lives but they want money. Sick.
@mogznwaz
@mogznwaz Год назад
@@Jamie-Zbecause Britain is the progenitor of the anglosphere, and basically the modern world. The leftists have to bring us down to symbolically destroy the West
@lacosanostra6032
@lacosanostra6032 Год назад
We want OUR OUR OUR how about everybody just stops going on about the past no wonder everybody is stuck in the mud and don’t move forward stop talking about irrelevant topics that have no bearing on us moving forward together as the human RACE so we are one aren’t we not? We are not the human sub races ie different colours
@Jamie-Z
@Jamie-Z Год назад
@Footballs Issue Podcast No, a real clown says nothing of content.
@bobblehat6603
@bobblehat6603 Год назад
@@Footballsissue Apologies if I am misinterpreting your comment but it seems as if you are suggesting that the British started the slave trade in Africa. As I'm sure you are aware, the Atlantic slave trade lasted for 366 years whereas slave trading was practiced by various African kingdoms and empires for more than 2,000 years. Slavery in northern Africa dates back to ancient Egypt. Ancient trade routes crisscrossed the continent, many of them pathways for the movement of local and international commerce and enslaved people. African traders linked routes from the west coast to distant communities of the Nile and the Red Sea. Similarly, trade routes traversed north and south, linking the Sahara with the savanna to the south, as well as to the forested regions of the continent. The best known of these ancient trade routes were those crossing the Sahara. For centuries, caravans of Arab and Berber traders transported African captives from sub-Saharan Africa, trekking along a series of arduous stages to the slave markets of North Africa, the Mediterranean, Asia, and Europe. From the eighth century, demand for African slaves was accentuated by the spread of Islam. The vast networks of trade routes controlled by muslims were used to capture people and transport African captives far from their homelands. Islamic religion penetrated ever farther south, deep into West Africa, along the East African coast, and far into the African interior. Thus, its traders forged new trading links, providing goods from Europe and the East, which Africans exchanged for their exports, including slaves. North African muslims created networks of trade that spanned a vast area of sub-Saharan Africa. African societies were ensnared by foreign slavers on the trading routes and forcibly marched in camel caravans across the Sahara Desert, often enormous distances, to markets in the north. The trans-Saharan routes were broken into small sectors, with goods and people bartered and sold multiple times to new traders en route. The end result was that African captives were transported from deep in the continent to the edge of the Mediterranean, and even onward to Europe and to the empires of the Eastern Mediterranean. Berber and Arab trading routes created noticeable African ethnic groups in many major towns around the Mediterranean, from Cairo to Istanbul. Traders moved African captives north along the trade routes of the Nile and sold them in Cairo’s slave markets (both to local slave owners and for onward sale). Many were women, destined for lives as domestic slaves and concubines. These internal trading routes were not devoted solely to the movement of slaves: they were trade routes along which a host of African commodities, ivory, for example, were transported north from Africa. Enslaved Africans were often forced to work as porters, carrying other goods being transported north. This trading system survived into the twentieth century. European traders and sailors benefitted from these links when they began to trade along the coast in the fifteenth century, acquiring goods-and people-who were captured from the interior and brought to the Atlantic coast via the African traders’ inland trading systems. The Portuguese were originally attracted by the possibility of trading with coastal peoples for gold. In time, the desire for labor in the colonies caused Europeans to demand African labourers to work on their plantations in the Americas and Caribbean. The Atlantic slave trade lasted 366 years, but many Saharan trade routes survived for the better part of a millennium.
@blinky5552
@blinky5552 Год назад
Give those British haters reparations under one condition...They leave the UK and go and live with their brothers and sisters in Africa. Furthermore. If it does ever come to the day when people who have never been slave owners have to give money to people who have never been slaves, then it will be the day when I say enough is enough and start supporting forced repatriation. That is honestly something I never dreamed o would say at one time.
@Margret-Anne
@Margret-Anne Год назад
🙌🏼🙌🏼🙌🏼 Now that would be worth it!
@dave4803
@dave4803 Год назад
Give em nothing, they've taken out plenty over the years and the victims of black crime never get a penny.
@Margret-Anne
@Margret-Anne Год назад
@@dave4803 absolutely!! We have to stand up to this!
@clemfandango619
@clemfandango619 Год назад
No reparations without repatriation.
@mellymel245
@mellymel245 Год назад
We need mass repatriations..
@songsmith31a
@songsmith31a Год назад
Interesting premise. Could be an alternative banner on demonstrations.
@MrJREllman
@MrJREllman Год назад
Apart from being disgusting, what logic is there behind that?
@clemfandango619
@clemfandango619 Год назад
@@MrJREllman isn't it obvious? You won't have racial strangers constantly denouncing and demonising you in your own country.
@Hatemoth
@Hatemoth Год назад
I agree with Clem.
@tekkersreefer8055
@tekkersreefer8055 Год назад
Try more like The Africans themselves and the arabs
@lmg7503
@lmg7503 Год назад
Why don't black and the left keep out of symbols in football. This is unbelievable.
@cyberleaderandy1
@cyberleaderandy1 Год назад
Because these over paid morons have already grovelled to them on one knee for years and they know they will grovel to them again
@mjm352
@mjm352 Год назад
Look at Irish history. Famine, Oliver Cromwell, plantation and partition but never will you see Irish people look reparations. As for the economy of Ireland it’s booming through work and not endless handouts and complaining.
@landsea7332
@landsea7332 Год назад
Ireland is one of the top ranked democracies in the world today . Its a strong Democracy that allows Human Rights , a Strong Economy , and Social Programs to grow . Of course having one of the lowest corporate tax rates in the world didn't hurt either . But of course corporate headquarters will move Ireland because its a Democratic Stable Country . .
@royferguson2297
@royferguson2297 Год назад
Ireland is a crooked Banana Republic, they have stopped moaning about the potato famine or Cromwell, its such a great Country millions have left the place and gone all over the World.
@BLICKBEANZ
@BLICKBEANZ Год назад
I don't want reparations, it would be nice to go into a shop without being followed by security. Be nice to be treated like everyone else instead of a suspect.
@sugarkane4830
@sugarkane4830 Год назад
Only cos you didn’t think about it.
@clemfandango619
@clemfandango619 Год назад
@@landsea7332 having globalist organisations dictating irish government policy is hardly democracy. They are the reason the Irish government are drastically altering Ireland's demographics. London is still a major financial centre. Dublin is a tiny afterthought.
@iainsutherland1113
@iainsutherland1113 Год назад
Wouldn’t it be a more productive use of time for people like Femi to focus their attention on modern day slavery in places such as Nigeria? He could do more good helping those people rather than trying to line his own pockets off the suffering of his long dead ancestors. If he needs money, there are other ways to earn it instead of being a hustler.
@gavmin8942
@gavmin8942 Год назад
he doesnt care about that he would have to be real for that battle
@rmac3217
@rmac3217 Год назад
There’s 2 massive civil wars with bodies piling up in Africa as he speaks, Sudan and Haiti.
@fraserduthie5853
@fraserduthie5853 Год назад
How many victim cards do you have in your wallet? Femi: Yes
@irenejohnson2479
@irenejohnson2479 Год назад
What about the Barbary Coast Pirates that emptied many, many villages throughout Britain and parts of Europe of their citizens , children, women and men whom were taken and sold into slavery to those in the Ottoman Empire, never to be seen again. It was awful but WE have to Accept that it was part of history and we learnt by it all . Slavery in many countries still goes on today so how about Femy concentrates and fight for them to help these people rather than asking for reparation for something that happened over 200 years ago. 😡
@ericatkinson9285
@ericatkinson9285 Год назад
Extremely unsure of what he says by not allowing Mog to litterally to speak pointless having these people to debate.
@denz8261
@denz8261 Год назад
the bloke was smug and irritating
@Smelly_Minge
@Smelly_Minge Год назад
When you ask a question and then continuously talk over the persons answer, you lose the debate automatically.
@ericatkinson9285
@ericatkinson9285 Год назад
@@denz8261 And black
@WILKSVILLE
@WILKSVILLE Год назад
@@ericatkinson9285 denz was talking about mogg
@MrAdrianOldfield
@MrAdrianOldfield Год назад
This joker needs to recognise the role GB played in stopping the trans Atlantic slave trade. He might also do better tracing back the African tribes that sold their prisoners to the European slavers
@tomd2103
@tomd2103 Год назад
People like him conveniently focus on one particular era of slavery and disregard the other thousands of years, including what is happening today. They also conveniently miss out the fundamental.role Africa played in that particular era by providing a plentiful supply of slaves.
@derekj071
@derekj071 Год назад
Blame Italians for the Roman Empire, the French for the Norman invasion of Britain or the current UK multicultural population for poverty in Iraq and violence in Libya
@berserkerphil907
@berserkerphil907 Год назад
Don't forget the Saxons and Danes,
@johnsimpson6670
@johnsimpson6670 Год назад
@@berserkerphil907 And Paddington Bear.
@garyphisher7375
@garyphisher7375 Год назад
Afrter the Romans left, the Gaelic tribes of Ireland started stealing Britons - then the Danes and Swedes - who would keep some and sell the rest to North Africans and Ottoman Turks. Then the North Africans would sail here themselves. We were conquered by Rome, Denmark, France, and the Dutch placed a king upon us. We couldn't go to sea without being attacked by the French, Scandinavians, Portuguese, Spanish, Barbary Pirates,, and the Ottomans. I'm sure they think we could've just told our attackers that we believe in equality now, so please leave us alone!
@elkpaz560
@elkpaz560 Год назад
No. It wasn't a brilliant conversation. The Nylander man just talked over JRM constantly bullying his way with his stream of lies and simplistic rubbish. Who did Britain stop - how about the African nations who enslaved the slaves in the first place. Meanwhile, the countries of the Caribbean are a great deal better off than those African countries which were not colonised in terms of per capita wealth.
@Margret-Anne
@Margret-Anne Год назад
That’s what they do.
@okyouknowwhatever
@okyouknowwhatever Год назад
why is he even called Nylander isn't that a Viking name? sounds like cultural appropriation to me. perhaps he should pay reparations to the Danes for stealing a perfectly Nordic name
@KevinArdala01
@KevinArdala01 Год назад
I wonder if he thinks the families of criminals should pay reparations to the families of their victims (as their suffering and disadvantage is much more proximate and tangible). His outrage is as selective as it is obvious.
@MrJREllman
@MrJREllman Год назад
I think perhaps we would say that if the families of the criminals directly profited from the crimes by their kinfolk, then yes. If one of your family had stolen money from an innocent victim and given you that money, would you have the integrity to pay it back to the victim from whom it was stolen?
@thatsjustprime8096
@thatsjustprime8096 Год назад
@@MrJREllman So you're part of the problem then.
@rmac3217
@rmac3217 Год назад
They obviously did benefit by living in the same house and eating the profits, pay up sons of criminals.
@peefernie
@peefernie Год назад
This bloke has a serious chip on his shoulder.
@dave4803
@dave4803 Год назад
They all do.
@okyouknowwhatever
@okyouknowwhatever Год назад
it's because black people can't create, they're great athletes (or physical specimens should I say) and can really jam in a jazz band, but they're too simple-minded and impulsive to get anywhere civilization wise
@MB-ko3mr
@MB-ko3mr Год назад
And self entitled.
@dave4803
@dave4803 Год назад
@@MB-ko3mr As I said before they all do.
@Isleofskye
@Isleofskye Год назад
To be fair,he is well balanced as he has a chip on both shoulders..
@simonhague2674
@simonhague2674 Год назад
Femi makes a good point in terms of theft of labour which Jacob rightly concedes; however, charges for any theft go back to the start of the supply chain (who stole it), not who purchased it, i.e., the African tribes who captured the slaves and sold them... However, more importantly, why is time being given to someone looking for reparations for people long dead when there is more slavery in the world today, but we hear little of what is being done to stop it..?
@donathandorko
@donathandorko Год назад
Agreed and this is another reason why his gold watch analogy is utter nonsense.
@Si_Mondo
@Si_Mondo Год назад
Exactly what I thought when heard him state that. The guy is a filthy sophist, as most on the extreme left are.
@sharonreichter2537
@sharonreichter2537 Год назад
These countries wanted their independence - what have they done with it??
@okyouknowwhatever
@okyouknowwhatever Год назад
answer is: nothing
@brother1ray
@brother1ray Год назад
Zimbabwe...............a case in point!
@aaronmarc125
@aaronmarc125 Год назад
Just keeps talking. Doesnt stop 😂
@jaymac7203
@jaymac7203 Год назад
This guy will forever live in the past which means he can conveniently be blameless for any shortcomings in his life. What a cowardly way to live 😤
@garytunnicliff3649
@garytunnicliff3649 Год назад
he is right... he has to start paying reparations to the British Empire for his Ancestors that were slave traders. The British actually finished paying for his slavery in 2015. Can he also pay for the 6000 sailors who lost their lives stopping slavery against his ancestors. As we have his surname maybe the government could give him his bill.Stop trying to cleanup history.. it is there to learn from and admire or denigrate but not to forget. If you want something to do ..fix the postmodern delusion and start doing something useful.
@nemosays6337
@nemosays6337 Год назад
What about the ships that patrolled the high seas to stop the transatlantic slave trade, and the Manchester mill workers who went on strike & protested in opposition of the slave trade?
@elkpaz560
@elkpaz560 Год назад
They shouldn't have bothered.
@nemosays6337
@nemosays6337 Год назад
@@laurenceBDontYaNo - Did he, I hadn't heard that!
@mickymondo7463
@mickymondo7463 Год назад
How can one expect to have a reasoned debate wish someone so woefully igorant of the facts as Femi Nylander? The Africans themselves were capturing there neighbouring tribes and keeping them as slaves, before they started trading them with Europeans in the coastal regions, Europeans didn't go into the African interior hunting slaves, they bought/traded them from the Africans themselves. There were more Africans held in slavery by other Africans than were ever transported across the Atlantic ocean by Europeans. Nylander is hopelessly ignorant of the facts and cannot debate the issue because of that
@jacksprat9172
@jacksprat9172 Год назад
Difficult to argue with selective ignorance, where he cherry picks his points. Ask him about the one million whites taken by the Barbary Pirates and sold in North African slave auctions over the course of about three centurys. Before that it was the vikings and they took over from the Romans. Point is, slavery has nothing to do with skin colour and everything to do with the strong taking what they want from the weak. When Britain became strong enough we were the ones who put an end to slavery, thanks to the exploits of the Royal Navy who spent around 150 years catching slave ships and freeing the captives. As for reparations, we've already paid. The Government of the time took the decision to end slavery everywhere and paid the slave owners to free their slaves, which incurred a debt we only finished paying in 2015. The video here on youtube 'British Crusade Against Slavery' should be required viewing before any of these idiots with a chip on their shoulder get air time. Learn some history first and as you say, the Africans enslaving each other was the normal way of life and for a time we did take advantage of it. once we were strong enough we also put an end to it.
@Unclemart99
@Unclemart99 Год назад
SSSShhhhhhhhhh keep it down that would ruin the whole Narrative
@songsmith31a
@songsmith31a Год назад
Certainly, the widespread nature of slavery throughout history is a fact. However, the British Empire provides a relatively recent entity and its people here in these islands offer a convenient approachable target for all sorts of aims that seek benefit for their claimants that would stand no chance of any success in any other land today that shares a similar historical background. Where are the claims here in Europe against Spain, Portugal, Italy, Germany, The Netherlands et al?
@jameshiggins.openworld
@jameshiggins.openworld Год назад
How far back do we go back with this . The Romans . Vikings . Egyptians All empires throughout history have had slaves
@jameshiggins.openworld
@jameshiggins.openworld Год назад
@@laurenceBDontYaNo all empires throughout history have committed crimes Spain murdered all those Inkas in South America and stole billions in gold. Nothing is ever said about that France has a bad history too like i said how far back do we go. The Romans made human beings fight to death in the colluesum black and white people its more complicated than you realise slavery
@martinwilliams4759
@martinwilliams4759 Год назад
And all of them white slaves no black slaves so it's white that should be getting all the money
@clmclmn21
@clmclmn21 Год назад
@@laurenceBDontYaNo Maybe not. But it is a reasonable point.
@dorothyramser7805
@dorothyramser7805 Год назад
@@laurenceBDontYaNo You are the expert Laurence. Name each crime.
@jameshiggins.openworld
@jameshiggins.openworld Год назад
@@laurenceBDontYaNo Slavery is even in the Christian BIBLE Moses leads the Jews out of Bondage in Egypt . America fought a war over Slavery in America and what about modern day slavery to like i said its more complicated
@elbaldy1946
@elbaldy1946 Год назад
Shouldn’t the still active slave trade in Africa be more of a concern for any black person? Or the fact africans sold the white man slaves in the first place. Reparations should come from Africa
@elkpaz560
@elkpaz560 Год назад
He is just on a bandwagon whereby his lack of talent or any real contribution to any society gives him a mealticket by virtue of the capture of our tax money by institutions trying to return the country to year zero.
@jimthomson101
@jimthomson101 Год назад
You can't have a rational discussion with someone who thinks that you carry responsibility for 5th and 6th generation ancestors (the Germans must be getting nervous) Also the failure to at least get a basic grasp of the history of slavery shown through Portugal was the biggest European slave trading nation and the arab country's took vast numbers over a longer time span than the Europeans Also most of the slaves transported by European countries were sold to the slave traders by other African tribes
@tekkersreefer8055
@tekkersreefer8055 Год назад
I ant paying sweet fa nope no never
@soundssimple1
@soundssimple1 Год назад
Those who keep digging up the past to keep division alive should be ignored. Stop reporting on them, if their claims are valid then they will find traction and find success. If their claims are still valid with the populations of today then so be it. BUT if the current generations have no interest in what happened 10 generations ago and have moved on to accepting full inclusion of all races and support opportunity for all then we have moved on and now share our general wealth of society with all. As for Femi, how can anyone have a debate with someone constantly talking over you, never shutting up and generally maintaining a career off the back of slavery ! Now that has to be recognised. Keeping the past open and relevant just to fill your pockets.
@soundssimple1
@soundssimple1 Год назад
@@laurenceBDontYaNo No, I look forward not back. We can only change the future for good and treat everyone equal. Why does everything always come down to money ? how does that atone for history. Money, money , money ! The past is the past. Grandstanding on reparations and making a career out of it is a bit rich. Using the past horrors for current gain is pretty poor. Maybe Femi could apply his talent to solving a problem of today like the current Government corruption in the parts of the world he apparently fights for ? Maybe taking on the current issues that CAN be changed would be a better use of his time and talents.
@paulfenton7776
@paulfenton7776 Год назад
Generational wealth is what prevents many people from progressing economically. Drax is worth 150 million. He can afford to give something back.
@maryquinn-stewart5788
@maryquinn-stewart5788 Год назад
@@paulfenton7776 How far do you think 75 million is going to go and if it was spit between everyone how much do you think everyone going to get. ..
@Sensiking19
@Sensiking19 Год назад
Love how you think you’re be intellectual as opposed to just plain racist 😂
@paulfenton7776
@paulfenton7776 Год назад
@Mary Quinn-Stewart there's loads more generational wealth out there. If we taxed these people properly, we wouldn't be in the mess we're in now. They've literally been getting away with it for generations.
@keithfarrington960
@keithfarrington960 Год назад
This proves to me you will never convince them of the truth. Just ignore them and stay away from them if you can.
@mellymel245
@mellymel245 Год назад
Ha ha Scott Adams was correct stay the f away from them they are not good people..👍
@elkpaz560
@elkpaz560 Год назад
They are running the show.
@oldAJ
@oldAJ Год назад
For goodness sake no one alive today is responsible why should today's hardworking taxpayers have to pay for this time to move on
@eccehomer8182
@eccehomer8182 Год назад
Today's hardworking taxpayers have already paid for it. The UK didn't settle the debt incurred by ending slavery until 2015. How about some reparations for that? And let's not start on all the financial aid we've sent to these countries through the years.
@jimconway5921
@jimconway5921 Год назад
Reparation arguments are a total con for failed governments and this activist is totally ignoring aid monies paid out and investments etc.
@markgreen3135
@markgreen3135 Год назад
Dividing us is how they will succeed with their agenda.
@joycegibbs5267
@joycegibbs5267 Год назад
it has in America, we are copying them 😥😢
@craighart9278
@craighart9278 Год назад
🤦‍♂️ where does this all end? It's nasty.
@thelamington8195
@thelamington8195 Год назад
Grifters gonna grift…
@stevedawson4928
@stevedawson4928 Год назад
If a poor country 200yrs ago hasn't sorted itself out now it never will
@okyouknowwhatever
@okyouknowwhatever Год назад
at least they have necklacing and earthquakes
@stretfordender11
@stretfordender11 Год назад
There is no such thing as Caribbean people either like he claims. They are Africans.
@jimnkor
@jimnkor Год назад
JRM has this habit of interviewing delusional guests who insist on trying to talk over him.....and fail miserably.
@derekj071
@derekj071 Год назад
At least he tries.. I would 100% agree with your comment if I saw someone like Andrew Brigden being given an opportunity on BBC
@paulfenton7776
@paulfenton7776 Год назад
You must have been watching a different interview.
@jimnkor
@jimnkor Год назад
@@paulfenton7776 as always, it depends on your opinion.
@johnsimpson6670
@johnsimpson6670 Год назад
On the scale of things, 2000 years is not a long time. Does this mean that Britain / England can claim repatriations from Italy (Rome) / Norway and France, for their invasions / slavery, and methods; that can be argued has affected our current economic environment?
@HawthornNZ
@HawthornNZ Год назад
Whilst all this slavery was going on, we had thousands of men and children working 14 hour days underground, thousands of women and children working 14 hour days in cotton mills, and if you think it got easier after that, read 'Memoirs of a Surrey Labourer' by George Sturt. Ignorant of people to think the Brits had it better than them - and lets not forget the Irish who got properly stuck in to build the Manchester ship canal, (as referenced on the club badges).
@michaelsimpson4400
@michaelsimpson4400 Год назад
1. The GDP per head of those in the Caribbean is higher than those in Nigeria or Benin. So how would you argue under common law someone being deprived? 2. Why is there no ask for reparations from the slave takers? Surely this is the original crime? 3. Why is there no similar ask of Portugal, Spain, or the Arab states who castrated slaves even raised? (And Portugal had the biggest West African slave trade but paled in comparison to the east Africans slave trade) Again it is a case of someone who has a political agenda, but with very little historical knowledge. I mean personally I think I may have a case against various viking nations, the normans, the romans but being a sensible human I am good to let it slide.
@elkpaz560
@elkpaz560 Год назад
More recently the Barbary Pirates who stole women and children from Devon and Cornwall.
@michaelsimpson4400
@michaelsimpson4400 Год назад
@@elkpaz560 shhh don't let logic and factually accurate history get in the way of ideology
@michaelsimpson4400
@michaelsimpson4400 Год назад
@@laurenceBDontYaNo but they were taken as slaves by African tribes and sold to western nations. I am not sure just describing the actual historical facts is deflection? If someone steals something, then sells that to someone who sells it on, surely all people in the chain should be held accountable?
@sandraowens4821
@sandraowens4821 Год назад
Why do we give so much aid money to Jamaica?
@michaelsimpson4400
@michaelsimpson4400 Год назад
@@sandraowens4821 not aware that we do. It isn't within the top 20 countries we give ODA to.
@timcomley5948
@timcomley5948 Год назад
Lose any argument when you don’t let your opponent speak
@lostinpa-dadenduro7555
@lostinpa-dadenduro7555 Год назад
Grievance peddlers need to get real employment.
@robertsung5934
@robertsung5934 Год назад
You cant have a discussion with an activist who has no interest listening
@skitskot
@skitskot Год назад
We need to get this type of conversation on a podcast, where they can take more time to address and explore each others points to the fullest and not interrupt each other.
@luciusesox1luckysox570
@luciusesox1luckysox570 Год назад
I know the arguments. No mention at all of the black slave traders. Reparation should start there.
@bobbyuk5866
@bobbyuk5866 Год назад
​@@luciusesox1luckysox570 Britain wasn't even the biggest slave trader in the Atlantic slave trade. And the Arab slave trade was huge, and lasted centuries longer. The reparations grifter is historically illiterate.
@goodlookinouthomie1757
@goodlookinouthomie1757 Год назад
@@bobbyuk5866 I mean slavery has been a staple of human civilization since the beginning of recorded history. However it's only European colonialists who are mentioned in any conversation about it. And that is because for years now, a small, entitled group have seen their opportunity to grift on race grievance and make themselves a nice chunk of cash.
@bobbyuk5866
@bobbyuk5866 Год назад
@@goodlookinouthomie1757 You nailed it!
@hermitpermit2553
@hermitpermit2553 Год назад
My ancestors irish and english were sent to australia for petty crime , stealing food etc, in some cases their entire families were sent in exchange for a drop of the death sentence. They laboured for years in order to "earn" freedom, orphan kids sleeping in shackles bound to a "master". The idea that i'd want any compensation for their suffering is ludicrous. I'm 100% behind funding services to help people and commuinities in the lowest demographics of society help themselves .....but the idea that this dude with his university education needs reperations is bananas and the idea that europeans in general need to pay it through their tax is also bananas, the vaassst majority of our ancestors wern't slave traders and certainly not owners. Africa is at peace with their historical enslavement of each other, it is not held over each other. europe and societies that have followed their trajectory have wealth because of the industrial evolution of their societies as well as the cultural/political and social evolution within their societies. Yes there has been some shady shit, welcome to human nature. Even so, without the evolution we went through we would not have developed as we did. Don't judge the morality that is a product of evolution as a way to try to change wrongs of the past.. We can only change what happens next.
@paulfitzpatrick3090
@paulfitzpatrick3090 Год назад
I'm a Singaporean PR. Singapore is one of the richest and most successful countries in the world and once a British colony. Singapore would never ask for reparations from Britain.
@joycegibbs5267
@joycegibbs5267 Год назад
yet.
@carlseager6340
@carlseager6340 Год назад
There just trying to get money anyway they can. I think we need to start looking at the Barbary pirates and seeing what money we can get out of them.
@davidmiller4078
@davidmiller4078 Год назад
They both had valid points but the guy on the left didnt really listen to what was happening just determined to get his memorised script out before he forgot it consequently it was almosy immpoaible to listen to never mind follow Guy on the right hand side seemed patient but did either of them learn any thing new ? I doubt it
@brianrichards3119
@brianrichards3119 Год назад
What's all this gotta do with the ships on clubs badges. Took them less than a minute to get completely off the subject.
@geraintpagden7721
@geraintpagden7721 Год назад
Reparations are complete nonsense, what they really need to do, is claim the money off of their own countrymen who exploited them and sold them into slavery in the first place.
@tarquin4592
@tarquin4592 Год назад
I prefer repatriation to reparation personally!
@resist.
@resist. Год назад
This country is a mess!
@edenbreckhouse
@edenbreckhouse Год назад
Call their bluff. Say you're all in favour of reparations and then ask them how, in detail, it would work. Watch them squirm.
@markgorton4154
@markgorton4154 Год назад
The Victim in this one is very strong.....
@dave4803
@dave4803 Год назад
He can pay back all the money he and his family have taken out of the UK over the years first. Then make reputations to victims of black crime. Lasty before he gets a penny he and his family need to leave the UK first and never come back. Until they do all that no money.
@markgorton4154
@markgorton4154 Год назад
@@dave4803 sounds like a plan, pity we know he only thinks of things like reparations in one direction.
@dave4803
@dave4803 Год назад
@@markgorton4154 Black people are selfish and think only they can be victims. They are so used to playing the pity card to get what they want in life, you don't see Jewish people acting that way towards the Germans and they had worse done to them then being made to pick cotton.
@gdr1174
@gdr1174 Год назад
Do you not think English peasants weren't utterly shafted by Lords and land owners.. you just have to accept centuries old injustices live in the here and now, which luckily for most of us is a highly tolerant era filled with opportunities for those who are willing to work hard and stay out of trouble.
@evillink1
@evillink1 Год назад
The proper answer to this silly demand is to laugh hysterically for about a minute, then with a dead serious tone answer, no.
@joycegibbs5267
@joycegibbs5267 Год назад
but now old Charlie Windsor has started it off thinking they will love him afterwards, our useless, woke politicians will do the same. But people liek him will still hate us and demand more & more. You can't win with these people, they're just nasty, extremely unhappy people.
@DamoKav-b7v
@DamoKav-b7v Год назад
I'm still awaiting reparations from the Romans - what did they ever do for us?
@conah9440
@conah9440 Год назад
Not convinced by the argument for reparations since money would be paid back to both descendants of black slaves AND decedents of black slave dealers. It's a tough one and i'm still open minded tbh. What i will object to is this never ending exaggeration and heightening of anxiety around the issue. There is no campaign to get football teams to change their flags it's a complete invention to make people angrier than they need be.
@paulfenton7776
@paulfenton7776 Год назад
Yes, and Femi made the same point.
@jupiter-8405
@jupiter-8405 Год назад
Repay us all the countless millions £ that the UK has sent in aid to the African continent before reparations are discussed.
@oladipoolaniyi500
@oladipoolaniyi500 Год назад
This femi guy isn’t listening but talking over his host … this isn’t a discussion but an argument
@dermotkelly6946
@dermotkelly6946 Год назад
Jacob is correct, if the people of country have a bit about them then they will rise , simple as that really 👍
@lisamcevoy6221
@lisamcevoy6221 Год назад
It would have been a good debate if Femi didn't talk over Jacob Rees Mogg every time, also Femi should get a educate himself a bit more on historical slavery and slavery that still goes on in Africa today.
@barryetheridge6639
@barryetheridge6639 Год назад
If I stole your pocket watch acting to type then
@thomasswift3563
@thomasswift3563 Год назад
ha ha ha from the Guardian - opened on the profits of slavery
@stratfordbaby
@stratfordbaby Год назад
Just cut Femi's mic. Such a rude man. You do NOT speak over one another. Disrespectful.
@Isleofskye
@Isleofskye Год назад
I am not Jewish but at 69(tomorrow) I have worked with endless Jewish people in Finance and other areas in London for over 50 years and, almost, to a person, they are bright, industrious, clever, and as a result of these attributes prosperous and successful and it is the same, almost, wherever they are in The World yet over 6 million Jews were exterminated less than 85 years ago. They are Professional and have 7 of the richest 10 people in The UK even though they are only 1-IN-200 of the UK populace. They are 25% of Teachers, Journalists, Business Leaders, Barristers, and Lawyers and in THe Media so 50 times the representation they should be,
@paulkeable7485
@paulkeable7485 Год назад
But Africans done slavary. Middle East done slavary
@LordBurberryGB
@LordBurberryGB Год назад
Why must these "Activists" like this Femi Nylander always be so rude and loud ? And why are they mostly so badly educated about their own cause ? This guy just got louder and louder because Jacob was calling him out for all the mistakes he was making and all the facts he was getting wrong ! I for one would say, educating a country, bringing democracy and law to these counties, making them part of the Commonwealth and most importantly letting citizens move to the UK is "pay back" enough !!! And if these people calling for reparations from a country they HATE, why are they still here, why do they not go back to the countries of there forefathers ??? And this is for GB News: I hate when guest talk over the presenter and this mostly happens on GB News ... I quickly lose interest and switch off !!!
@jacobfield4848
@jacobfield4848 Год назад
The UK was late to empires, everyone had them before the UK. African, Asia and the Arab world all had slavery before and after the UK. The UK was victim to colonialism also.
@DavidGetling
@DavidGetling Год назад
Maybe Italy should make reparations to Britain for the Roman invasion 2000 years ago.
@petersaupe7455
@petersaupe7455 Год назад
The Normans enslaved all of this land.The Romans enslaved all of this land. The Moors enslaved people of this land .The Algerians enslaved people of this land. The slaves were prisoner of war between black tribes, slavery or death. Lets talk about reparations for me.
@bobbyd6875
@bobbyd6875 Год назад
I live in the Caribbean it ain't slavery. You can't blame slavery for a big centralized government that breeds corruption. Caribbean is "poor" becuase of bad decisions
@jpnewman075
@jpnewman075 Год назад
Can we discuss the Africans aka Egyptians that enslaved the Jewish. Are the Jewish people allowed to seek reparations?
@cromwellg60
@cromwellg60 Год назад
They never talk about paying reparations to the descendants of Irish slaves. Why? Because they’re white and it doesn’t fit their narrative. Britain lost countless thousands of men fighting the slave trade and paid the equivalent in todays money of trillions of pounds for it to be ended. Also, Slavery has never been legal in Britain. You never hear about this at all. My great grandfather (x4) was a leading abolitionist and signed the abolition bill. Also my family are descended from Irish slaves. Should i be paid? Definitely not. It has nothing to do with me, nor anyone in even my grand parents living memory. Total nonsense.
@HoraceWarmington
@HoraceWarmington Год назад
This Family Guy talks absolute crap, and so do the people who like him speak, the same, constant victim hood, and the problem is is that they teach it to the young black people who end up growing up with the same victimhood mentality. That’s why we’ve never got anywhere.
@ofeliawotsits6080
@ofeliawotsits6080 Год назад
Femi NoIdea can’t see that Jamaica et al have done nothing to help themselves, so he now blames everyone else to excuse the laziness. Look at Japan and its condition after WW2, or even Germany, they pulled themselves out of the mire and became successful once again.
@kfckillie1
@kfckillie1 Год назад
Not all blacks but those I have listened to are Unfuckibelievable sad and lean to one side because of the massive chip on tiny shoulder.....😵‍💫
@martinfarinha
@martinfarinha Год назад
A perfect example of talking loud and saying nothing.
@Ingleborough111
@Ingleborough111 Год назад
Nylander is a typical slippery 'debater' who drags up some vaguely connected story when he can't really make a case.
@entropy5431
@entropy5431 Год назад
200 years is a huge amount of time. USA is barely older and South Korea has gone from in the top 10 poorest countries to the top 10 richest in 50 years.
@paulAnthony7236
@paulAnthony7236 Год назад
Ask Arabs for money ask African countries who sold their own for money ask them .
@jamasmith2146
@jamasmith2146 Год назад
Enough is enough . We are NOT sorry.
@Nasher1976PSN
@Nasher1976PSN Год назад
You cannot argue with someone who doesn't listen and who talks over you.
@stevyg4549
@stevyg4549 Год назад
Let Mog get a word in ffs, so he can educate you in HISTORICAL FACTS
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