Vikram Oldham Hila is openly a pretty shy, soft spoken, and not exactly in her comfort zone when on camera or the center of attention. Ethan is very aware of this and does his best to make sure her opinions and input gets heard and appreciated. Ethan’s presence is a lot more dominating than Hilas so whenever she does put in an observation or an opinion on something, Ethan makes sure to acknowledge it and reassure her that what she had to say was interesting/relevant/ a good point in general. I think it’s sweet that he does his best to make sure she doesn’t get left in his shadow during these things.
@@virginializcano3935 oh yeah I wasn't saying that he was fully right about it I just thought that it was funny that he right about something being fishy with tati lol
Virginia Lizcano James kinda created that narrative on him tho. Through the posts he made. But I agree predatory is a serious accusation. Describing him as pushy and stupid makes more sense.
and the kids who grew up listening to it ended up using it. wii came out out in 1956, I was born in 1948. They act like they were born in 1920 but they shit
@Luka Hays It wouldn't be if she just admits what she really wanted to do and that was to spill the hot molten tea on his ass and melt him away. She should own up and say yup I slayed BITCH :)
OMG, yes; the theme slide will be that Kermit Tea pict with Ethan's face photoshopped on Kermit's face with Kermit's body though......please someone make this!
I think the whole betrayal aspect came from James saying previous to all this drama that he wouldn't advertise Tati's vitamins because it wouldn't be appropriate for him to do so with such a young audience. When offered something in exchange, he suddenly had no problem advertising her competitor, which is notorious around the internet for not working.
Friend or not business is business. That's the way it is, what I see as an outsider is that Tati wanted advertisement from James Charles, she didn't get it, now she got bitter and made a hit piece. From my point of view, both of them are suspect and horrible people. Both would be willing to back stab each other just to further their agenda. James chose the sugarbear stuff to further his career, Tati made drama to further her career. All this drama from Unregulated vitamins.
This is clearly stated in her video and so many channels talking about this issue don't bring it up. I really feel like it's the one point that explains why she was mad about the vitamins. Because he lied to her.
@Fluffy Bunny She never expected him to promote her brand She also never asked for any monetary exchange She was mostly upset that he lied to her face and sold himself for a company that he had talked trash to behind doors and on top of that is her number 1 competitor
@@carlangelo653 Tati said she'd give James a sponsorship to promote her brand (and she also mentioned 100k as a number, but maybe not for that case). So if he wanted to further his career, it would have made more sense to go with her, it would have given more than the passes and security were worth. But maybe in the moment, he was just desperate for it and saw it as a higher value. The point is, he isnt principled (he did their brand but not hers when he said it would be irresponsible, especially bad since he said he didnt like the other company in private) and possibly doesnt have his priorities straight (breaking principle, thereby inherently lying to to Tati, who was also a friend... And as she said, al for a good time.). Also, its not their fault the vitamins arent required to be regulated. Even if they went out of their way to have a third party review of them to raise credibility, the two brands likely wouldnt use the same third party and therefore they wouldn't be comparable anyway.
Kenn the Shonen Jump fan Plays JRPGs and JMMORPGs it was so long ago I privated it Bc it didn’t fit the theme of the channel but funny enough I have a new cancel culture vid coming Sunday!
YES! I fucking said this to a friend the other day, the disfunction of a society really can be measured by how fucking bizarre the richest people look. I think that's why James Charles makes me so uncomfortable, he's either hunger games capitol or pre revolution french aristocrat. Gross.
Re-read my statement. Your reply is a logical fail. I would know because I scored a 174 on the LSAT which got me into Northwestern Law after graduating with top honors from UC Berkeley. BTW...the LSAT is an exam in logic.
Gracie Grace that’s because Tati conveys actual information, James is just fishing for sympathy “I’ve already told my truth 3 times, it doesn’t matter anymore”
@@michaelegan5581 Agreed. Ever since my dad got lucky on a business deal with the Chinese which turned us into billionaires, I became as obnoxious as the Paul brothers. Luckily, I'm aware of this problem so I always try to fix it. But sometimes I just can't help it.
Imagine a straight dude that's all like "I want me a lesbian girl - I turn lesbians straight, it's easier than you think." Not only is it creepy, it's delusional.
Except these “straight” men actually made out w James and received head from him. Lesbians don’t hook up with the men trying to turn them especially if they find it creepy. That’s the difference.
Crucibelle wouldn’t it be so cute to have a tea pot with h3h3 on it. Or anyone else who has a tea spill channel. Or they can make a range of flavored teas 😂
james uploaded a video explaining everything and it makes tati look like an even bigger fool. you should do an update on the situation in your next podcast i'd love to hear what you have to say!!!
Have seen this multiple times and seems weird to consider lol. Seems like the only bad h3 pods are from strongly opinionated people, so it'd probably be chill. Plus with that shorty it's a better time than ever
Ashley Motto from what I’ve seen it seems that those outside of the beauty/drama communities keep getting the details mixed up, especially concerning Tati’s video. Like they read a summary of what it’s about or skipped half the video, but the tea channels are on top of it all.
She said she wasnt going to buy ads for her products cause its not right BUT adds a comment to promote her product to a video she made to bash a kid.... 🤨
lol she said she would rather spend it on research, if you have a vitamin company and have to choose between marketing or research then your company is fucked and not going to last for long
Re-read my statement. Your reply is a logical fail. I would know because I scored a 174 on the LSAT which got me into Northwestern Law after graduating with top honors from UC Berkeley. BTW...the LSAT is an exam in logic.
Re-read my statement. Your reply is a logical fail. I would know because I scored a 174 on the LSAT which got me into Northwestern Law after graduating with top honors from UC Berkeley. BTW...the LSAT is an exam in logic.
When Tati launched her product James didn't wanna promote her product to his young viewers but later on as shown promoted a "sleep vitamin" to his young viewers.
THIS! a lot of people don't mention this, and this was one of the main reasons she felt hurt by it, then he promoted HAIR vitamins as sleep Vitamins to his viewers.
RU-vid 2016: we'll never see a controversy like PewDiePie's again RU-vid 2017: we'll never see a controversy like PewDiePie's again RU-vid 2018: we'll never see a controversy like Logan Paul's again RU-vid 2019: we'll never see a controversy like Projared's again *Meanwhile in the distance* WHOOP WHOOP WHOOP HI SISTERS Edit: I'm not saying which one was worse morally, just the effects it had on social media.
@@kenmken Not that bad? Hahaha, tell that to the tens of millions of dollars lost in preferential advertising and partnerships. The dude is down to peddling Chinese candy-flavored powdered lead. But NOT THAT BAD!
@@MrSen4lifE Where'd you pull the "tens of millions" number from? Calm down bud. Pretty sure he prefers it like that, and he's probably making more money than ever or at least well enough. These controversies really weren't that bad because they didn't involve losing 25% of his subscribers. His controversies were mostly media fueled, not by actual people. They actually resulted in a more loyal fanbase and complete independence.
Tati was caught out for lying about the situation with James. It’s backfired. jeffreestar has also apologised to James since he recently uploaded his " no more lies " video. Tati switched off comments since she was proven to be lying about what happened. Just waiting for her respond.
I'm not surprised. Tati always plays the victim and people falls for it. Btw...im not a fan of any of these "beauty gurus". All of them are toxic and manipulative imo. I'm not subscribed to any of them.
Thank you H3 for being critical of Tati and giving a different point of view. All I have seen is love for Tati and hate on James, so thank you for being different!
I don’t understand why it’s not good to look pregnant while you’re pregnant. I’m so sick of this whole “snatched” thing in celebrating someone being thin while pregnant.
Cory Thomas hell yes dude the beauty community and drama community is nothing you wanna get tangled with. Any single moment that any misinformation is presented he will be attacked.
16:10 exactly. Unfortunately IQ Levels of fans of These RU-vidrs are as low as it gets. These People don't care About their fans AT ALL. It's all just for Money. Hilarious how the fans don't realize that.
The thing with eating dinner with his parents was that he was just telling his dad that he wasn’t completely straight and that everyone was on a spectrum that was it. At her birthday party he was going into detail about what he wanted to do to the waiter in front of her parents and childhood friends u mixed that up
Rachael Schiferl it really doesn’t. Yah, James was a shit bag 19 year old teen ager being a teen. Don’t like it? Be a woman and move on. This was all a power move
Ethan said Tati was a guest of James when it was actually the other way around. It’s disrespectful to sit at someone’s dinner table and talk about inappropriate sexual topics and make it uncomfortable for the host. Clearly someone without manners
MrGabo98 the “so” is because Ethan’s main sticking point seemed to be that Tati was upset about something that occurred while *she* was a guest in someone else’s home as opposed to it being the other way around. If those circumstances contribute to a negative perception of her reaction, they need to be accurate.
"Spilling the Tea" originated in the Black Drag Queen/gay community. Mostly dealing with gossip and, in contemporary times, it can mean talking about drama. It can also be seen as "T" or "Truth" when speaking about one's own "truth." The phrase/term have been around for a long, long time. Edit: The dinner was at Tati's house.
@Grumpy Grayson so your guests are being a bit rude, and you decide instead of telling them that to their face you gonna tell the whole world! Very logical...
Issy3333 O'B I agree with your statement it is important to define the struggles of a community! Its more racist to say it shouldn’t be recognised in a time of struggle for said community!
I think the main thing that outsiders are missing is that James specially told tati he didn't like sugar bear hair and that everyone who worked with them is a sell out. Tati has never paid anyone to talk about her brand but she offered James charles a paid opportunity to work with her brand. She felt compelled to give this opportunity to him because he was a son her to. Then as Coachella, he completely blind sided her and glossed over the fact he did an ad for her competitor. I also think the community is supportive of tati because she is so unproblematic and has never wanted to be involved in drama. But as always, love you h3h3. Keep up the good work aye.
Hold up, almost no one really cares about the products they advertise. Lets stop pretending. I've heard people talk shit about products and then years, if not months later advertise them as the second coming. She's just throwing in other things to make it seem like she's not wining about her product (which no one forced her to have) isn't being slung for free.
I think the problem is that a lack of integrity arguably doesnt warrant this violent of a backlash, compared to other youtubers who have done objectively worse things. Even taking into account his alleged pressuring of guys and dictating their sexuality, it's not nearly as bad as other people, who got away with it, and even grew during the drama. Should say that I dont like James Charles, I still think hes scummy person for his action with sponsors and his "kink" for straight men.
obviously not So? Regardless, it's none of her fucking business? Who is she to bind a 19 year old kid to his words and then make a video "exposing him". She wouldn't have brought up those personal issues about the kid if not for him supporting another product. Tell me who's the real snake here? The 19 year old kid who said he didn't like a certain product and then went to support it? Or the absolutely delusional 35 year old bitch who claims to be like a mother figure, knowing about his personal life issues, and then throwing that in the internet's face for fume for an unrelated matter in which he chose to promote one snake oil bullshit product over another. You guys taking either side in this are all fucking delusional and clearly struggle to see the actual fucked up shit in this "internet drama".
@@insanegravity there IS a different. What worse, being an annoying guest or the one who bring the annoying guest? If she's the guest, would she sent an apology message to other guests? I don't think so
@@When.in.time. who was the guest doesn't matter because the point was that she had a private dinner with James parents and she decided to use that against him. even if it was in her house or not it was a private dinner
Tea is gay/drag slang, that beauty community borrowed. It comes from pronounced letter T that is short for Truth. So when you spill some tea, you spill some truth.
Wrong. "Tea" is Southern slang that the gay/drag community borrowed... and its been used before then as well for any ladies who get together to gossip over at tea time.
I love you guys reporting on beauty guru drama, you guys that report on drama rather than tea see things more clearly I guess. Thank you for your wits.
LoL more like she got mad that James Charles promoted other vitamin brand and now she is destroying james charles. Imagine if James Charles did not promote the stupidass vitamins, Tati will be like "good boi James I wont destroy your career today" Im wondering why people keep eating up Tati's bs.
Dylan Mork do you not get that they’re BOTH assholes? He’s supposedly been doing this for years and she’s totally fine with it as long as he’s a good little boy and promotes her shit. The second he doesn’t on an IG story, she snaps and comes forward about everything, lol. What a crock. They’re both manipulative assholes.
missmerbella yes!!! I’m so glad someone else sees through the bullshit. They’re both gross. I think what Tati is doing is worse though. She’s destroying this guy under the guise of being hurt. Don’t believe the hype people.
Spilling tea is telling the truth. It isn't always talking about drama. The phrase came out of the black drag community. Not the drama community. Let's get our facts straight. Straight like all the men James Charles tried to pick up on Tinder. The fact that he's about to be 20 means *NOTHING* he's got to handle himself differently. Talking about sex and all kinds of nasty shit he wants to do to men is awful. I was 19 and NEVER did ANY of that especially in public or in front of my mom or anybody in public who was close to me. Tati was justified. James is a millionaire. He cannot complain about making videos or having to put makeup again. It's not like he has a job at fucking McDonald's or doing hard labor in a third world country. He doesn't get to complain. I agree.