I always found it ultra impressive that both Picard and Janeway can stand in front of basically omnipotent god-beings and casually tell them to piss off.
Ppl talk about that punch as if it really did hurt Q in any way. They forget to mention that Q was simulating a vintage boxe match and had landed several punches on Sisko, enerving him a great deal before Sisko built the courage to land that punch. And it was mostly inconsequential for Q who at best felt somewhat disappointed with Sisko as if he was reminded that he overestimates mankind. BTW Q didn't left DS9 after that punch so it was really pointless.
@@philiphunn194 Realistically; Sisko punching Q in the face would be roughly as effective as a smaller-than-average dust mite punching Godzilla in the face....if anything that's understating things. Sisko is only barely more than human, after all. Generally speaking the "Prophets" exist in a dimension of non-linear time, which allows them the ability to see across time itself, and they can interact in a very limited capacity with what they see... Meanwhile , the Q are functionally omnipotent and immortal. The only thing that can truly "affect" a Q are other Q. On an individual basis outside the Continuum they are effectively Gods. Long story short; Q (in this case referring to the iconic, John De Lancie character) is very much known to be overly theatrical and dramatic in all he does in general, but even more so when interacting with the "Captains" in each series. Everything is purely for his own amusement. If he wants to stay he stays, if he wants to leave he leaves. That said, of the 3 Captains, I'd imagine Sisko to be his least favorite, because his reactions to Q are the least interesting or intense of the 3. Picard is like his favorite pet in the whole universe, and Janeway fascinates him because he has a thing for strong women.
That's the federation/star fleet for you. Fanatical Egalitarians, they will treat the most lowly creature as an equal, and clearly superior ones as equal too. On pain of death.
And it is irreallistic and DUMB and bad writing. That level of aggressiveness against a superior force is stupid. They treat the ferenguis with courtesy but they spit into Q's? That make no sense. It jeopardize the safety of the federation and no one woudl act like that in real life.
People forget Q's responses to these behaviours. Q got the final word which made Sisko look like a predictable, impulsive, childish fool. Q got Picard to demonstrate humility and respect. Q made Riker suffer for his arrogance. Q wanted to have a baby with Janeway.
I know Voyager gets a lot of flack, and a lot of it is well deserved. But, to me, Janeway, is a great Captain, and deserves to be with the greats. Solid actor.
Blaze Infernus relax 😐 Voyager was amazing because of how it looked at every character and all their problems. Its a beautiful story of family and struggle
You can tell they really loved having the puppy around in that scene. Like Q could have gotten rid of it right away but they kept holding and petting it for the whole scene.
john de lancie was actually on one of my ex's soap opera's an his characters name was eugene, not sure which soap it was, but i had to tape it on vcr for her to watch everyday
Am I the only person who spent literally this entire scene trying not to suffocate from laughter? I didn't believe a single thing which came out of Q's mouth and neither did Janeway, she was just more composed about the aroma of bullshit permeating her office. You can still see the telltale smirk to indicate she doesn't buy it at all. And the way she admired the puppy for just a moment before deadpanning and flatly telling Q she wasn't interested at the start certainly didn't help matters.
@@WhiteFangofWar I think he was known before TNG, but his interactions with Picard (and possibly Sisko, depending on the timing) definitely wouldn't have helped keeping his trickery a secret
It's a bit late, but I have had the idea that most of Q shenanigans on the delta quadrant were his own way of testing Janeway, and not at all what the Continuum is or does. He acts as a jester and a judge to Picard because that's what would motivate him to see beyond the limits of humanity, and he acts the way he does with Janeway for a similar but personalized objective. All of the Q's are actors, and the universe is but a stage.
Q steals a whole ship and then puts the random captain on earth. 70% of the show is Q having fun and 30% is the other captain chasing him. It writes itself!!
There was a full motion Star Trek point and click videogame that came out in 1996' called Borg; starring John de Lancie as Q. The setting gives the character a chance to re-write their history because his father was destroyed in battle. The whole game is filled with Q's antics and 4th wall breaks that basically could be a 2 or 3 part episode of itself.
Gotta love the differences in ships. Enterprise D is a huge ship and has a massive ass bridge and Picard's ready room is a little closet with a fish tank. Voyager is way smaller, has a dumpy little bridge, but Janeway's ready room is like freakin' 10-Forward on the Enterprise, but reserved all for her.
Well, I mean... if I could do anything, anytime, bring people back from the dead, make time stop, warp reality... that's the definition of the ultimate troll right there.
Q already knew they would get back. Hes from the Continuum. He can travel back and forth thru time at will. So he already knows how the story begins and ends. Hes just messing around cause hes a 5th dimensional being and that makes him like a god to us.
How it should have gone: JANEWAY: "I'd appreciate you taking your domestic dispute off my ship. And leave the puppy." Later... JANEWAY (voice): "Captain's log, supplemental. Mr. Neelix has agreed to be my holodeck dog-walker, and I I have assigned Ensign Kim the unenviable task of canine waste management. Since I'm going to be crapping on him for sevel years anyway, it seemed appropriate."
"I'd really appreciate it if you'd take this domestic squabble off my ship." "Very well." Janeway and Voyager are atomized while Q and Q are still standing in the exact same place.
I don't know if I agree with that. Perhaps for the first season or two, she felt like that, but as she went on, she felt more like a stern den mother to me. Right about the time she stopped wearing that bun weave wig.
All Captains were stuffy at the start. Name one who wasn't. She was the perfect counter-part to Picard, and an awesome Captain. She also knew better than Picard (due to his info, but also her personality) how to deal with Q.
She was constantly tired when shooting Voyager she later said in interviews and in many of the episodes it shows...I also think Captains act so serious in the beginning because it is a new role for them and as the years go on they become more relaxed with the role.
Suzie Plakson, the female Q, also portrayed the half-human half Klingon Ambassador K'Ehleyr on TNG episode "Reunion". Very distinctive voice. She would have made a good choice to play Janeway
indeed. but with such powers, couldn't you accidentally erase yourself out of existence, or destroy whole civilizations by a simple mistake of thought?? unless by having such powers to bein with you instantly gain the mental agility to control them.
sorry but if you had Q's powers the other members wouldn't allow you to wield them like some out of control god changing thing on wim. The general moodiness (if such a thing is proven) would be the result of the hormonal shift's that are caused by the menstrual cycle that are required for woman to have children. men also have mood swings also stressers in life cause mood swings in woman and men so remove what causes those stressers and the mood swings may reduce
Trust me, all those Star-crossed romances, Vampire-human romances, Rich-poor romances etc can't stand a chance in front of it. I mean, look, how romantic it is: A god-like creature to whom time is meaningless is trying to seduce a human.
+Billy Brasco It's actually good writing, because Q is never honest with the people he's annoying, at least not at first. I imagine that especially in this situation he's embarrassed to talk about the truth, which is that the Q are going through a civil war. He chose to portray himself as arrogant for a reason, so to tell the truth about an imperfection in their existence to others who would normally revere them as gods must be humiliating.
Legend has it that after Q returned to the Alpha Quadrant, he sent the puppy back in time to a parallel dimension, where growing up he was named Sam, who met a lagomorph rabbity-thing called Max that Q also had put there, which set-up the 4th Wall Breaking duo of Sam & Max: Freelance Police ;)
In TNG, Q is dangerous, violent, and loves to cheat and use human's history to tease them. In DS9, he tries to do the same by playing pranks on DS9 and gets into a fist fight with Sisko, but when he actually hits Q, Q is suprised and backs out of the fight. Now in Voyager, he goes and gives Janeway a puppy and tries to be friends an all that. Even when Janeway declines, he doesn't get mad and just... leaves. (for a while, anyways.) Anyone else notice that he (This specific Q) is getting more comfortable with humans?
one thing great about Voyager. they never took the easy out. the crew were presented with numerous routes home over seven years, Q himself could have planted them in Starfleet headquarters with a blink of an eye. but they put their duty to explore and discover strange new world's above their own self interests. it would have bee. lazy writing to send them home so easily, it would have either ended the show early or just sent us back to standardized next generation style alpha quadrant storyline we saw so many times before.
Having said that (that is, I agree), I was still really touched and filled with this glowing joy when Kes managed to give the Voyager crew a priceless parting gift by giving them a _massive_ push forward on their way! :D
It was mainly because the captain was obsessed with the prime directive, and on another occasion the Q were offering janeway to get the Voyager home if she would decide in their favour and not in the favour of that one Q who wanted to commit suicide (I personally dont believe that the Q would run out of fun things to do ever) , so it was not about exploration. It is also funny that I just now noticed that it took em only 1/10 of the time they calculated from the start.
Are you kidding? If I had to choose between another 70 years of navigating a hostile galaxy while my family thought I was dead and being teleported home in the blink of an eye by an omnipotent asshole and the only price to pay was having his child, I'd rip his uniform off in a heartbeat! It may not be the Star Trek way, but think of all the lives that could've been saved by Janeway & Q having a wild night.
Michel van der Linden But wasn’t that a retcon by Janeway to save Tuvok from Vulcan Alzheimer’s? They got home the hard way, but because they took so long Tuvok developed Vulcan Alzheimer’s. So Janeway went back in time to get everyone home sooner.
Though Picard was Q's favorite, it always seemed to me that Q and Janeway had a better relationship, there seemed to be sort of a mutual respect between the two of them. Janeway almost seemed to enjoy bantering with Q when he showed up, something Picard never did.
