Yes I am glad to see that all things, good or bad are recognized, as the artists and fans that once thought they where so Nuevo, are more similar than they would probably like to imagine. The similarities date back to the sixties, as their has always been a more eclectic fold, limited to the general public's awareness but followed closely by a select few, who refuse to colour between the lines, or accept to be labeled by the mainstream's limited taste due to exposure. I smell hints of "the Stranglers" , "Ministry", "Type O Negative" and more bands that i care to-remember on my favoured underground (College/University) broadcast stations. "viva la difference"