Japan's Fake Destroyer Hiding a Massive Secret 

Yep. The abandoned hull of a battleship was converted.

@@stormforge68 I would hope so. Especially with the USS Enterprise CVN-80 on the way. That would be pure poetry

@@BullGator-kd6ge Should've been Akagi then, Enterprise never fought Shinano in any battle (afaik), unlike Akagi, Kaga or the other CVs from 2nd and 5th division.

​@@stormforge68 Is this a Kantai Collection reference?

​@@Menaceblue3since it involve cvn 80 enterprise i'd say its azur lane

THE MORE YOU KNOW

I learned the Japanese warships names and types mostly from playing Azur Lane 😅

US ships also named after cities, e.g. Indianapolis, and people: USS Ronald Reagan.

I was in a hawk missle batallion in the early 80s. Long time ago.

At the time, Japan considered it a bad thing. With China escalating things, they've reconsidered.

@@jacobshelor419 Agreed.

Like how the narrator and Chinese try to blame Japan for increased tensions while ignoring China building carriers first and laying claim to more and more area.😊

Missile takes carrier. Check, and mate.

the Japanese IMPERIAL navy will NEVER exist Anymore.

​@@markplott4820sure buddy

@@vivekp4854 - no nukes for Japan and no REAL Army . still relies on USA to Defend Japan. though it's JETS ( under license) are pretty advanced.

Japan needs defend itself from who?

@@Dept246 - CHYNA and No Korea.

They don't have the shipyards to handle that construction. Maybe they could purchase a Ford class with modifications for them. Either that or fish or the old Essex class carrier designs and see if they can modify them for modern use

​@@jacobshelor419They do have the capacity to build them. They just don't have the experience. They have dry docking facilities in Japan already. They can handle our supercarriers when they are stationed there.

And in terms of a country with excellent ship building Japan is top notch and very capable.

it makes more sense for them to build these smaller carriers, it allows them to rapidly build more and for them to easily maintain and field them. Especially if one of those carriers can house about 20 f-35's or more that would be more then enough.@@justsoicanfingcomment5814

Agreed 💯

That would be awesome seeing as they are all on the same side now.

Enterprise Vs Japan

I'll buy a poster.

That would be a very crazy event.....history runs full circle I guess

@@legogenius1667 well as long as there isn't a new carrier named Akagi i think it'll be less likely

Really ? You mean JAV ? 😂 🤣

Except the USA is the one who made the F-35B STOVL jet. Without that, Izumo and Kaga are just helicopter carriers.

​@@Paul-H-Wolfram6608 Uhh sure coomer

they failed numerous times already. Where have you been? lol

USA in the year 2000: Video games are just toys. Japan in the year 2000: We take all art forms very seriously, especially toys.

Amazing Japan can build such a good looking carrier (sic) compared to the RNs ridiculous looking nee carriers

Shouldn't be a problem. The best defense is a good offense. The US won't object and the US is the ONLY nation Japan needs concern itself with.

The U.S. put that clause in the Japanese Constitution. Notice the U.S. said nothing.

110%! Peace through strength. Xi has made it clear he wants Taiwan back in the fold in his reign. If Putin gets away with annexing Ukrsine, we can bet China will invade. Chinas military has been very cavalier during recent engagments with allied and UN forces conducting manouevers in the region. They are not afraid to get a bloody nose. The other countries in the region should be prepared as well.

Agreed

I mean we let Germany have a military, why not Japan?

​@kdrapertrucker until recently the Japanese constitution didn't allow for offensive capability.

Of course the Chinese don’t like it. They probably think they have a Mandate of Heaven to be the height of civilization and the rest of us have to be their tributaries

assuming [1] China will be a dictatorship forever [2] and USA's "flawed democracy" will not sink any further to become a dictatorship. The Europeans are increasingly united what, the East Asians will just keep getting divided further?

Modern japan really cannot afford to trade blow with China, the tiny island will be spent in a matter of hours.

The JSDF has 2 Izumos and 2 Hyugas. China has 3 type 075s. Despite being classed as an LHD, they are each larger than the Japanese heli-carriers. In fact, one 075 is larger than two Hyugas added together. And China is now building type 076s, which despite still being an LHD, is as large as the CDG, France's nuclear power carrier.

@@danielch6662 China is building 076 with magnetic catapult. Soon they will have super carriers and amphibs that can both launch true air superiority jets vs Japan’s F35B which is the least capable of the 5th gen and in meager numbers

When they fuk u you will learn it is not the case😅😅😅😅

No it really isn’t

@@lairdsteele2817 Care to explain? Oh, but of course you can't.

@@Racistobama Japan invading Iraq in 2003? Japan joined America in the illegal invasion of Iraq? Japan launching an Aircraft carrier in 2009. China responded with its own aircraft carrier in 2012. Chinas militarization is a direct response to Japan continued militarization post cold war.

Lol get brainwashed often do you?

As long as they don’t do the Pearl harbor thing again we are cool.

​@@scottradien2337China and Russia are planning a Pearl Harbor attack right now.... Look at the activity in the Pacific, the Ukraine. Taiwan....

I don’t think that’s a sleeping giant we should wake I don’t think y’all know how good Japan can fight and mfs always invited there own weapons

There’s no difference between a self defense force and a military anyway. Israel has a pretty good Air Force and army from what I heard

But ya, article 9 should be removed. If China doesn’t have one then Japanese shouldn’t either

the "ryu" (dragon) turn into submarine now , hope to see "kaku" (crane) carrier in near future.

Japan had four flat-deck "helicopter destroyers" already, Hyuga, Ise, Izumo and Kaga. Of the four, Hyuga and Ise were previously WWII BBs, and Izumo was a pre-WWI armored cruiser. Which is to say, it doesn't seem like the Japanese are too attached to past CV names. In fact, Kaga is the odd one out of the CVs, as it was converted from a BB of the Tosa class, and therefore only one of two CVs to be named after Japanese provinces (the other of course being the Shinano, also a converted BB). So realistically the Kaga name doesn't imply its a CV at all.

And not just that ,Japanese Navy have a lot of experience when it comes to carrier tactics and operations and they got the US and Great Britain as allies who has experience on operating modern carriers ... While on the other hand china had no experience on operating carriers until they procure the Admiral Kutznetsov sister ship Varyag ...

​@@su-57stealthfighter73Japan h 😊ad been an ally of Great Britain soon after the Meiji Restoration, having chosen the British model for their Navy. The ties were slow close that a Japanese Admiral was given command over one convoy in the Mediterranean that include not only Japanese destroyers, but British destroyers as well. Japan operated destroyers in the Mediterranean as part of the Allied forces in WWI. It was until the mid to late 20's and the results of the Wasington Nsval Treaty (which Japan felt was an insult) that this partnership broke.

They even drive on the same side of the road as the Brits! The Americans really didn't want to sign the naval treaty until Britain abandoned its alliance with Japan. But the Anglo-Japanese ties were pretty damn tight, most probably because of Commodore Perry and his gunboats that were not very well received at all, otherwise we might have seen a more American/Japan relationship instead!@@arthurmosel808

I know it’s a typo and a minor one but ‘United Sates if America’ sounds so stupid I’m laughing my guts out

@@HappyGM-R You missed my typos though, the emoji that was in by accident and slow for so. I couldn't find the one you mentioned in any post.

They can just bully Vietnam and the Philippines in their own waters instead

You mean like the US?

@@wolfgangkranek376 As if the USA is threatening the countries of East and Southeast Asia. They’re not. Most of those countries VERY MUCH want the USA there to help protect them from the aggressive hoodlum trash in Beijing. See Japan, see Taiwan, see South Korea, see the Philippines,see Australia, see Vietnam. And you can add India to that list too.

Yeah, that'll be the day.

You bought that lie 😄str8 outta U.S. play book.

US military just called UK military barely ‘second rate’. Maybe it’s time for Sunak to spend more too, but he won’t. Just lots of talk

@@dexlab7539 You're barking up the wrong tree there. The UK, which is one of the most militarily secure countries in the world, still puts over 2% GDP to the military (NATO obligation). It's some of the other European countries *cough* Germany, that need to step up.

@@delos2279 If that's the case, why can't either of England's aircraft carriers even make it to the Pacific for an exercise? It seems that one or both of England's carriers are always in the shop, with major work needed. Like the U.S., England is militarily secure basically because of its location. It is separated from Russia by all of Western Europe, and on the other side of the ocean is America, its big brother. By itself, England is a shadow of the world power it used to be.

​@@Ironfangzu Why yes.. we realize the British empire isn't a thing anymore. That doesn't change the military spending relative to GDP, which is high for NATO countries. Should NATO as a whole increase military spending to counter Russian and Chinese imperialist threats? Yes, but the UK is already ahead on this and one of the few countries in the world with aircraft carriers, matching the same number as China. Regarding missions in the Indo-Pacific, there are already Royal Navy ships deployed there and they are planning to send a carrier group next year to Japan, so funny you mention it. But also the UK is located in the north-Atlantic so it's almost 3 times further than, for instance the US west coast. And of course that's not even counting the US islands as well as leased naval basis. For comparison, Chinese carriers and/or support ships can't even cross the pacific as UK ships sail 45-50,000km round trips. Or Russia's tugboat powered not-an-aircraft-carrier can barely move anywhere. So the UK is also ahead when it comes to aircraft carriers (Turkey and France have 1 each).

Remember that the 11 US Nimitz and Ford class carriers displace more than the entire PLAN and does it by MORE than the displacement of the Chinese carriers. Our whole Navy is about 3.5 times the displacement of the PLAN.

@@HarryWHill-GA I like your comment. But why should China be so concerned about the Japanese Naval buildup if we have such a large naval force in the Pacific?!!?

@@williamcarey8529 Because the PRC is absolutely dependent on maritime trade for its economic existence. They import 2/3 of their oil and over 2/3 of that is a convenient 7,000NM away in the Persian Gulf which has to pass the Straits of Malacca. Anyone could park 3-5 destroyers in the Indian Ocean and stop China's oil and there is NOTHING China can do about it. There are at least seven countries, not counting the US, Japan, Britain, and France who don't like China and are capable of interdicting this oil supply. I can go on and on but you get the idea. China is dependent on trade for its existence and does not have a sufficiently capable Navy to ensure it continues.

@@HarryWHill-GA Very interesting, I did not know that. That explains everything about that and Afghanistan. Iran had proposed building a pipeline through Afghanistan as a direct link into India who also imports all of it's oil.

@@williamcarey8529 The intractable problem for the CCP is that there is no way to bring all of what they need under their control. But that's OK. The PRC is the fastest aging population in world history. You need a birthrate of 2.1 just to replace your population. Currently, it is standing a about 0.7 in major Chinese cities. It's not doing much better outside those cities. You can look for the PRC to begin de-industrializing in the next 30 years. The first you might hear of the collapse of the PRC is that stuff you ordered from China doesn't arrive.

China & Japan r not aggressive towards each other. It's the U.S. media's propaganda that's pushing for war. It's the oldest play book in U.S. history. Divide & conquer, instead of working for peace & unite.

The irony of someone being a bully on almost any country in the south asia sea.

@@Tamachii12日本は人種解放の為に南アジア地域に行った。中国が目指すのは世界覇権だ

@@Tamachii12 yes, INDIA!

You're only projecting. China is only worried about the US. The they aren't really concerned about anybody else. Japan is serving the role of bogeymen for Chinese politicians in exactly the same way that American politicians use China. They aren't losing sleep over it. Just a tool to rile up the masses and promote nationalism.

Chine would like an enemy weaker than them not a nation who can defend itself.

@@JuanChaca-dc7lz USA too

Or Russian aircraft carriers.

@@backpackingtony1779 The Russian carriers are fine. They just have been skimping too much on the maintenance due to budgetary constraints.

I look at Japan as Super Fun Happy Time

Imagine "jets" with EM engines instead of Outdated combustion Engines. ALL Electric engines (EDM) are lighter & more Powerful, and are 100% Electric . only small 4 cylinder Turbo and keep batteries charged. best of all they can Supercruise w/o Afterburners.

@@markplott4820 the fuel cell concept is out there, but huge amounts of energy has to be shrunk down into a small place. The problem of heat shielding and management is of a magnitude engineers have not dealt with.

@@jamesbohlman4297 - FC planes wont make it , unless C-17 , C-5 cargo jets. FC not Viable for Fighters.

Especially if those drones are made from cardboard and are carrying explosives strong enough to take out aircraft.

​@@Is_This_Really_Necessary I doubt that cardboard drones are going to be anything other than loitering munitions. It simply doesn't have enough structural integrity to survive high speeds

​@@ironboy3245 I agree. The drones used would probably be something closer to the Kratos/Valkarie/ -Bayraktar 2- Kizilelma drones.

@@mill2712 def not the bayraktar drones, too slow for proper air combat. remember, ideally the drones should be able to do multiple missions, including defending the carrier in a pinch. IDK about the others

@ironboy3245 If you're talking about the Bayraktar 1, I definitely see your point but I was mentioning the -Bayraktar 2- class, which is close to a subsonic unmanned fighter. Edit: My mistake, it's actually the Kizilelma I was thinking of.

Along with the Kido Butai the PLA Navy may face Kantai Kessen in the near future.

The Izumo isn't much better being a VSTOL carrier, but the F-35 is arguably a much better plane than anything carrier-borne the Chinese are fielding currently.

彼らは新しい武器を見せびらかしてくるのに我々が自衛の武器を持つと被害者のような態度を取るんだ　サイコパスだよ

@@user-hw9wq2kp8s Are aircraft carriers considered self-defense weapons in Japan? Aren't they offensive weapons? Isn't China a victim of World War II? announcing new weapons, China is called showing off. China doesn't announce its weapons, and the US and Japan say China's military is not transparent. I find that the US and Japan are schizophrenic.

Except Japans Hyugas were built BEFORE China's 001. And the Izumos was before 002. China has continued building, but Japan has stopped. There is nothing planned to follow the Izumos to gain fixed wing/STOBAR capability, or to build more of them. The Hyugas are relatively new. Only about 15 years old. No way the Diet is going to spring for more cash. Japan has hit their limit with 4 very small carriers. The problem with using the F-35s in STOL mode with no ski-jump is the limit on the load they can carry.

yea but China is faking friendship with russia in an attempt to steal lands like putin is trying to

If they operate F-35B, they might want to fit a ski jump so they can launch aircraft at higher weights.

​@@kdrapertruckerthey're using VTOL variable F-35s. Don't need a ski jump.

Vertical take-off burns a lot more fuel and limits payload & range for any plane. The F-35 is no exception.

South can handle north and US have bases in south so japan can focus on defending its land and water and also help taiwan with US

China is worried? Ridiculous! Japan has fought three wars with China in its two thousand years of history, and both were disastrous defeats. The most recent one was World War II, and Japan did not win. And during most of this time, China was Japan's suzerain. The one that United States is most worried about is the Japan. Once Japan has the ability to defend itself, the United States will have no reason to exist in East Asia.

You mean 20k Ton Aegis destroyers that Japan wants to build?

@@kennantjessavi7648 I've heard they had to reduce the tonnage to 14K tons because the project was getting a little overly ambitious. More in line with the USN's new DDG(X) "Ticonderoga replacement" BMD destroyers. It would not surprise me if their new BMD destroyers look just like our ours.

@@namyun2743 yeah, true.

Yamato will be a space ship not a naval one.

@@ClayinSWVA In the year 2199 kek.

Its thucydides trap. You do something because someone else is a threat but your action in countering their threat is what is causing them to become a threat to you. China is caught way way deep in this trap.

Actually, the rule on Japan being prohibited in the construction of aircraft carriers expired around 2012-2013. They can build carriers if they so wish. But you don't just build a capital ship without a reason, and China's actions in the far east has given the Japanese government a reason.

Yes china now can build multiple carriers in just 3 yrs but I'm pretty sure they would have the same problem Japan experience in WW2 , lack of carrier based aircraft and carrier pilots makes the aircraft carrier useless ...

Be it a Japanese carrier, one of the US or of any other nation. Carriers in today's world are sitting ducks, not much different then the large Battle cruisers during WW2 or even already during WW1. That's why the US keeps it's distance from the Iranian coast and from Yemen.

@@wolfgangkranek376 yeah, I guess that’s why China is building aircraft carriers? This is such an idiotic comment, the U.S. carriers don’t go near these place because it’s an “AIRCRAFT CARRIER”. Your comment is the equivalent of saying that “snipers are obsolete because they stay away from the frontlines” when that’s not even the doctrine of snipers. Why would a carrier deliberately get close to its adversary, when it can strike from hundreds of kilometers away?

Japan has created the largest copy machine in the world. They call it Godxerox.

Until we developed Mecha.

Silly person! GoGo Godzilla!

Besides, I'm not sure, that the Chinese casualties during WW2 is that far from how many Chinese people, that has died of starvation and brutal ruling since 1949. Millions died of starvation, when the beloved Mao declared war on all small birds, resulting in famine for some years, since insects no longer had any natural enemies.

Tut Tut ! Such indelicate language . Poofters may be reading this !

pretty sure china building a navy and launching a carrier in 2012 was a direct response to Japan launching these aircraft carrier in 2009. also Japan's participation in the invasion of Iraq forgoing pacifism. what did you think would happen?

@@leihtory7423 so china's remarkable claim to the entirety of the South China sea and its claim to Taiwan had nothing to do with it? They only built carriers because Japan did? I think you should widen your focus a bit.

@@michaelfisher7170 china was not the first to build artificial military islands in the south china sea. you had vietnam & malaysia building artificial Military islands in philippine waters. in the 90s & 2000s & thats long before china decided to do the same. hell you even have south korea building an artificial military island in the yellow sea. hell you even have taiwan militarizing their island claim in the south china sea. Again In philippine waters. note Taiwan has that 11 dash line claim. Where Chinas 9 dash line claim comes from. And China uses their Coast Guard & Not the Chinese Navy in the South China sea disputes. And the most violent episode in the South China Sea in the past Decade. Comes from the Philippine Navy Gunning down Vietnamese & Taiwanese Fishermen.

@@michaelfisher7170 I have to check. Has it been 40 yrs since China fired even a gun at another country? When was that during their conflict with vietnam in 1980s cold war stuff? So no China is definitely not building a Navy to invade other countries. Cant say the same for Japan. Who is more than willing to participate in USAs military adventurism. Hell if China wanted to invade Taiwan. China would have invade those Taiwanese islets off Chinas coast. less the a kilometer from Chinas beaches. To me the whole China will invade Taiwan tomorrow. is a US narrative to Justify sanction on China. to defeat the Chinese economy. USA wants maintain no.1 stop.

​@@leihtory7423as a SE Asian. You are totally wrong.

Yep, considering the fact that Japan is surrounded by warmongers and thugs equipped with nukes. What a nightmare.

You do know of USFJ? There are almost 50k troops on mutiple bases in Japan since they surrendeted at the end of WW2.

​@@darkwillis416like they had on Iraq, and afganistan ?

@@patriotic8352 not quite. Google "United States Forces Japan". Iraq and Afghanistan dealt with insurgence from neighboring countries. US and Japan are now allies, unlike Iraq and Afghanistan.

@@darkwillis416 I'm saying that they had promised that they will erase terrorism from afganistan but they gave birth in Iraq

@@patriotic8352 WTF are you talking about? Afghanistan was about removing the Taliban from power and finding OBL after the 911 attacks. The Iraq invasion was unjustified and was about money and oil. Two unrelated conflicts.

Chinese people learned a lot from the hands of the Japanese around WWII

If I remember correctly A-140-J2 is a Japanese version of Nelson class ...

Yeah well they were on side in wwi as well...

Try not to forget the coming Philippine bases. Missed those ice-cold San Miguel beers.

I'm a Military Fanatic and you're comment reminds me of a modern Version of the WWII Pacific war.

They are too busy bullying SEA Nations like an asshole

If im not mistaken its V/STOL, those are planes that can do both short take-off and Vertical take-off with limited payloads

pretty sure Japan was the first to field a carrier post coldwar. this was at the tail end of the Iraq War in 2009+ the iraq war which japan participated in. Sending JSDF to Iraq ending their pacifist doctrine. which really scared China. Why 2010 onwards China went on a building spree. 2013 China rushed to build its first carrier.

Why would China be nervous about Japan, a country with only 11.55% of its population age 14 years or younger. China’s age 14 or younger population is 17.5%

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はい、私達は攻撃する為の兵器は持ちませんが自衛の為の武器は持ちます。😂

Saves on fuel. It's the Datsun of warships!

Light carriers have a large amount of hollow space and very little armor.